Any hardware problem with the device? - Motorola One Vision Questions & Answers

Hey fellas, so my Pixel XL just died and I am in market for a cheap android device which will run stock android. I searched a bit and fixated on this because of the following reasons:
1. It runs on stock android and under Android One project.
2. It has UFS storage, while devices like G8 Plus etc. has eMMC still.
3. The camera seems to be the best in the class.
However, I don't like the ridiculous aspect ratio, the fact that it runs on Exynos Soc and not SD, and more importantly the battery life I have read on GSMA review is below average. How much screen on time do you people normally get with this, just out of the box without rooting or anything?
Does this device have any known hardware problems or anything like that? I am choosing this over the likes of Samsung M21 or M31 etc. simply because of the abovementioned reason. Am I making a mistake? Would you recommend this device in 2020? Those who are using this from the beginning, what you like or hate about it. Also is there any successor coming for this come May, 2020?
Kindly advise.

It Has touch screen sensibility problems (90% of the devices). Works Better in Android 10 but the problem still there and it worse while it is charging

AndresOrue said:
It Has touch screen sensibility problems (90% of the devices). Works Better in Android 10 but the problem still there and it worse while it is charging
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Ah thanks. I thought that was not a widely known issue. But alas! No other stock android phones available with UFS storage and camera as good it seems. So no other choice left for me other than opting for a bloody Samsung it seems.

ithehappy said:
Ah thanks. I thought that was not a widely known issue. But alas! No other stock android phones available with UFS storage and camera as good it seems. So no other choice left for me other than opting for a bloody Samsung it seems.
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I was also in a same dilemma but the primordial choice for this phone was Android One . I'm sick of those phones (brands) which can give a few updates for their phones . So , Motorola One Vision is a reliable phone with great display & camera , sort of speaking regarding price . there are several updates , I think for 3 years since 2019 or 5 years for security updates (look for this informations) . I agree with above post regarding display touches , it seems to be some problems but I don't use a screen protector and everything is just fine . It's not a flagship killer , easy to understand but in my opinion in same range of prices (hardware or else) Motorola is better than Samsung .

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I was also in a same dilemma but the primordial choice for this phone was Android One . I'm sick of those phones (brands) which can give a few updates for their phones . So , Motorola One Vision is a reliable phone with great display & camera , sort of speaking regarding price . there are several updates , I think for 3 years since 2019 or 5 years for security updates (look for this informations) . I agree with above post regarding display touches , it seems to be some problems but I don't use a screen protector and everything is just fine . It's not a flagship killer , easy to understand but in my opinion in same range of prices (hardware or else) Motorola is better than Samsung .
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Yes, exactly! I can't even stand the Samsung skin (or any skin on top of android for that matter), that's why I chose this phone. It also has the best camera in the league, along with android one. But, if those touch problems are indeed a hardware fault, then I should stay away from it. I will use a screen protector, so I am guessing that will ensure/ enforce the problem. Has Motorola acknowledged this problem officially?

muppetz said:
I was also in a same dilemma but the primordial choice for this phone was Android One . I'm sick of those phones (brands) which can give a few updates for their phones . So , Motorola One Vision is a reliable phone with great display & camera , sort of speaking regarding price . there are several updates , I think for 3 years since 2019 or 5 years for security updates (look for this informations) . I agree with above post regarding display touches , it seems to be some problems but I don't use a screen protector and everything is just fine . It's not a flagship killer , easy to understand but in my opinion in same range of prices (hardware or else) Motorola is better than Samsung .
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EDIT: after the Android 10 update I just got, I added a third problem.
My experience with My Moto Vision is overall it's a decent phone but with three concerns that, to me, are enough to avoid it:
1) there is a problem with the screen sensitivity. It's very inconsistent and almost unusable when charging. People say it is better with A10 but honestly it's only a little bit better. Not enough to recommend this phone now
2) the biggest problem for me is the speed of updates, especially security updates. My phone was almost 5 months behind on security updates and only last weekend got the Feb security patch - on an Android One phone! So if timely updates are important to you, look for other Android One phones.
3) after the A10 update, 2.4ghz wireless speeds are broken. I get 2mbps at most now. 5ghz is not impacted. It seems that not everyone is impacted but on the Moto forums, there are at least 4 reports so far - I am one of them. Motorola is looking into it but I am not confident this will get fixed any time soon (see bullet 2 above). I cannot express how broken this has made my phone when I am in my Wifi zone. Unusable.
If those two things are not a big deal, then I would say go ahead and pick one up.

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Should i buy Honor 6 ?

Hi guys, so im thinking to buy Honor 6 , because i like alot that design, but you guys tell me is it worth buying it ? (even i hate that huawei UI) if not ? then what you recomand me to buy (something that cost same like Honor 6 ) ?
Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
I had a modded Samsung s2 before and it had the same performance in games, all was fluid, but it had no microstutters and wasnt stuttering and ghost pushing when i had it connect with the power connector. If you want to see something in the daylight you have to put the highest brightness on and even then it's not perfect.
The only difference between the s2 and the h6 was the display wasn't as big as the Honor 6 plus updates came out immediately on Samsung.
Please don't throw your money away. The phone was hyped too much. In real it's a faulty cheap device. I'll never do the failure again.
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Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
I had a modded Samsung s2 before and it had the same performance in games, all was fluid, but it had no microstutters and wasnt stuttering and ghost pushing when i had it connect with the power connector. If you want to see something in the daylight you have to put the highest brightness on and even then it's not perfect.
The only difference between the s2 and the h6 was the display wasn't as big as the Honor 6 plus updates came out immediately on Samsung.
Please don't throw your money away. The phone was hyped too much. In real it's a faulty cheap device. I'll never do the failure again.
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well thanks man, what you suggest me to get ?
I still love my Honor 6... and don't have any of the issues reported.
But if was today, I'd probably get a One Plus X.
i love my honor 6 dual sim with lte and also have no issues...I would buy it again, especially for the price of 239 USD....
good luck anyway...
Robo
p.s. and i play games with no strutters (nfs...)
and with emui3 you can change a lot the look and feel of the phone...
I dont have any of those mentioned problems.
Still works good for me, nice performance, nice battery life.
kackalarm said:
Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
I had a modded Samsung s2 before and it had the same performance in games, all was fluid, but it had no microstutters and wasnt stuttering and ghost pushing when i had it connect with the power connector. If you want to see something in the daylight you have to put the highest brightness on and even then it's not perfect.
The only difference between the s2 and the h6 was the display wasn't as big as the Honor 6 plus updates came out immediately on Samsung.
Please don't throw your money away. The phone was hyped too much. In real it's a faulty cheap device. I'll never do the failure again.
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Do you have some links, threads on the forums etc. to put more credibility to your claims? I tried to look for it, but it doesn't seem like these issues are as well known as you say...
kackalarm said:
Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
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This issues are definitely made up. Or caused by bad treatment of the phone. I can assure you that none of the mentioned above happens.
As for the system updates, it is a downside that updates come too slow, but if you are not of those people who flash new roms every day, it shouldn't really bother you.
I'd say the terrible WiFi performance (WiFi is unusable if you're streaming audio to a Bluetooth device) and EMUI 3.1 being pretty broken (Chrome tabs are nowhere to be found, Smart Lock doesn't work properly, and many many useful features of 5.1 are hidden or plain absent) are dealbreakers for me.
Add to this the fact that the power button on mine stopped working. The Honorvipservice.co.uk website doesn't work, and tells you to call the service centre. Called the centre and they said to call Huawei. Called Huawei and the booked it in over the phone. Allegedly a replacement phone will come tomorrow, but to be honest I think I'm just going to sell it and get a Motorola so I can get stock Android 5.1.
PS should add that I'm back on my old Moto G first generation (non 4G) and I'm actually much preferring the experience to that of the Honor 6 Plus - even with the slower operation and smaller screen. Android just works properly - at least with the minimum apps installed.
No problems with this phone. EMUI 3.1 works like a charm (no issues with chrome tabs) haven't done both bluetooth streaming with wifi but the wifi itself is stable and quick enough.
I bought my Honor 6 for £80 as a joke phone as I never tried an Huawei and did not want to spend a lot of money on it and boy am I impressed. Aside from development, the phone is really quick and the processor (which is basically an Exynos CPU, which are the best imo) is good and coupled with 3GB RAM means its definitely high end material. Just put on MIUI 7 on the phone and you are set. Lovely phone but I don't use it much as I have loads of phones haha. At the price range its in its great. I would not spend more on a Huawei (like the 6P) than the Honor 6.
Yeah, the phone is all good for me. If you have the patience to wait for software updates, its a fine phone.
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Chrome tabs are nowhere to be found
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Are you sure? There was a change in how Chrome handles tabs (not EMUI related) and you might've missed that. Now each tab is treated like a different application - you manage tabs in Recent Apps (the square button). Works for me.
The other stuff mentioned here isn't too important for me to be honest, but I understand your concerns. I definitely have the patience for updates, coming from a phone that had Android 4.1 (and quite usable 4.4 custom rom) and 0,7GB of RAM, Honor 6 is a massive upgrade for me. kackalarm's issues seem faulty model related at best, and blatant lies at worst. I'm pretty objective towards the fact that my phone might have some faults in the future, but it's hard to believe stuff like that without any proof...
For its price, it's not bad at all. Screen is nice, and not too big (5" is the absolute maximum for the size of my pocket). It looks better than most phones in this price range, has 3GB RAM which should be future-proof enough. There's some ROM development, even if we're still waiting for any kernel sources newer than KitKat, I can wait. (Although there are definitely safer bets if you care about ROM development, there is a chance Huawei won't care about it anymore) I'm satisfied with EMUI and that's got to be the first time I even considered using stock, unrooted software on a phone. (To be fair though, my previous phones were slow and had no recent updates, so using ROMs was necessary for good Android experience)
Yeah, I updated using the file on the Honor site. The phone told me about the tabs but no sign of them when I hit the square button. My Moto G is on 5.1 and they work fine there.
The Wifi/Bluetooth thing is the biggest problem with the device for me though.
@sado1
Let me google it for you if you are too lazy: lmgtfy.com/?q=honor+6+blue+spot
When you need more "credebilities" then look into Amazon reviews of the Honor 6. It's not a "faulty sunday model" or whatever, the Honor 6 itself is faulty. How can it be that so many same smartphones have the same failures? You can't see these failures in a quality check, if they happen in a random time. For one it's after a few weeks, for the other one it's after a year or more, but it definitely will happen some day. Similar problems are on smartphones like Sony Z1 and Samsung Galaxy 1 Plus for example (touchscreen problem, ghost touch while connected to power connector). Enough "credebility on my claims"?
@browser problems
I've got problems on my Honor 6 with videos often, when I try to watch a video over one of the browsers (Chrome, Firefox). First everything works like a charm and after 2 minutes or whatever the tab is broken and shows no video anymore. That happens on every browser. I have to reload the whole browser or open the video in a new tab then. Apps like Amazon Video or Youtube work like a charm.
@Xhemal1325
I won't suggest you any cheap smartphone, because you ever have a downside on that. You have to buy what you feel is good for you and if a cheap phone is good for you it is good for you. I suggest you to go into a smartphone shop and test every actual smartphone you can offer for nearly the same price, like Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo and stuff. As long as you are happy it's good. I only hope that you don't buy a Honor 6 and end up with the same problems some day. I personally won't suggest cheap and old smartphones and the Honor 6 was more an emergency buy than a well conceived buy, because I can buy the smartphones, where you clearly feel and see a difference between both worlds.
Should you buy an Honor 6 ?
If you are an Indian User: Yes, but you must know this is an end of life model....
If you are an European User: No
Since Lollipop, Indian model of H60-L04 (Honor 6) have 3 updates.
Beta selection for Marshmallow just started.
European Model: 0 updates since Lollipop (this also an H60-L04). And of course security flaws are'nt fixed !
No beta at this moment for the H60-L04, and no one knows when ....
From 12 mounts I have Honor 6 H60-L12. Bought from Aliexpress (China to Europe) (official china rom 5.1.1 manual applied, Battery 3 days regular use)
Good thinks:
No bad issue, work stable in any conditions.
EMUI 3.1 have similar to iphone interface for me it is really easy to jump between SMS Contacts Notes. I like it.
- Individual restriction to any installed app. When lock phone it stop app not permitted to work.
- Sensitive GPS, two independent SIM TX, IR with many many models for TVs DVDs STBs Air conditioners, built in Camera translation, have MHL, OTG.
Features not implemented:
- Double tap to start screen
- No Miracast only DLNA
- Some issue with connection to Kenwood car audio. Play music from speaker not from amplifier. Still try to clear it.
Low in plastic body - to soft - in back pocket of jeans it start to have curve shape.
Antutu (last) 51 387 pionts. HiSilicon Kirin 920 18 place CPU model. Very stable work.
Hope be in help.
i have the H60 L-04 with last oficial rom
i had a htc m8, oppo 7a, xiaomi mi4, letv x600
material are not premium, its plastic, but the phone is nice looking
fast and stable, i would prefer a clean android rom, but emui isnt bad at all
battery life is good
wifi is normal
sound is decent
screen is good
can´t complain...

Is it still worth buying in 2017 ?

I was wondering if buying this phone is still worth it in 2017 (second hand) compared to other phones in this price range ($250)
better get the galaxy s7.
Raulz0r said:
I was wondering if buying this phone is still worth it in 2017 (second hand) compared to other phones in this price range ($250)
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No it isnt
Raulz0r said:
I was wondering if buying this phone is still worth it in 2017 (second hand) compared to other phones in this price range ($250)
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Absolutely.
It is not, rather get the S7 or Huawei P10 if you must.
Huawei has shown poor support for the P9 depending on your region, which will only get worse since the P10 has been released. :/
MHBGT said:
It is not, rather get the S7 or Huawei P10 if you must.
Huawei has shown poor support for the P9 depending on your region, which will only get worse since the P10 has been released. :/
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I totally agree. The support for the P9 has totally dwindled in that many of us are awaiting Android 7! Every other major player has released it for the current line and so many of the lines from the past! Yet we have a phone less than a year old which is not being supported!
Happy with mine and Android 7/EMUI 5
as time goes by i'm starting to hate this device.
-stars to lag when internal memory is about 1.5gb free (it still lags even with more free internal memory)
-average GPS performance
-poor ram management (my nexus 5 is way better when it comes to multi tasking)
-battery drain
-camera quality depends on the lighting conditions
-outdated security patch (i still have the december patch/no OTA yet)
-not future proof
I really like the phone, had it for a few months now. I got it this year and had no issues with it.
I did flash L09C432B378 and all working great at the mo.
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Happy with mine and Android 7/EMUI 5
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Good for you... But us in the UK are still on Android 6/EMUI 4.1
Thats really bad!!!!!
If you can get yourself a good deal on it, and get one unbranded so you are not stuck on old software by lazy carriers (shame on you EE - you've had 3 months!) then this phone is fantastic.
In the 11 months I've had it I've not rooted it. The first Android phone ever to make that claim with me. Hell, I haven't even factory reset it yet. It is still snappy. Best camera I've ever had on a phone, especially if you get good at flicking to manual mode, learning basic photography, and using the RAW files to edit afterwards. The simple auto mode gets it right most of the time, but as is standard, performace decreases with light levels.
The only things its really missing in 2017 is wireless charging, OIS, and decent video recording.
But that is just my humble opinion.
What I would say though is I wish I had been more careful with the battery. Charging it up to 100% every time now means that I am seeing about 85% performance of the new battery. This is nothing newsworthy. It's common knowledge 12 to 18 months down the road performance drops off sealed Li-Po batteries. Started charging it to 80% to try and get another few months out of it.
U can buy it!
I was a bit unclear when i saw the mess with rooting and custom roms on this phone, but if huawei will release the kernel source soon we are good to go.
EMUI 5 is great, smooth fast and easy to use and the theme editor is great.
For me this Phone works just great.
for me,i have it 10 months now,very satisfied,no lags,no problem,strong build device,he fell off hundreds of time,no scratch at all and I didn't use screen protector
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Good for you... But us in the UK are still on Android 6/EMUI 4.1
Thats really bad!!!!!
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There is no reason to be on Android 6. Plenty of guides around to update it and is very easy.
I personally wont get it. You can get an S7 for a cheap price now but the only downside is touchwiz.
Here are some questions you want to answer:
Is having an up to date phone with good support from the manufacturer important?
Do you want a phone that will last 3-4 years with security updates?
Do you care about things like custom kernels, tweaking, custom roms?
You want a phone that is pact full of features and very customization?
If you said No to all of them or most of them, then get the P9. Its a good smartphone if you want something that just does the trick with no thrills but the downside is that this phone wont get much updates past the 1.5 - 2 years mark.
If you said Yes to all or most of those questions, then there is other options within that price range. A 2nd hand S7 or a OnePlus 3 (or 3T) may be a better option.
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I personally wont get it. You can get an S7 for a cheap price now but the only downside is touchwiz.
Here are some questions you want to answer:
Is having an up to date phone with good support from the manufacturer important?
Do you want a phone that will last 3-4 years with security updates?
Do you care about things like custom kernels, tweaking, custom roms?
You want a phone that is pact full of features and very customization?
If you said No to all of them or most of them, then get the P9. Its a good smartphone if you want something that just does the trick with no thrills but the downside is that this phone wont get much updates past the 1.5 - 2 years mark.
If you said Yes to all or most of those questions, then there is other options within that price range. A 2nd hand S7 or a OnePlus 3 (or 3T) may be a better option.
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Update policy is bad yes.
Kernel source will get released so custom kernels will come.
If the Kernel Source is there we can use the latest security patch on our own.
I dont see where i can customize a samsung more.
I think you judge way to hard, for me this is a great device.
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Update policy is bad yes.
Kernel source will get released so custom kernels will come.
If the Kernel Source is there we can use the latest security patch on our own.
I dont see where i can customize a samsung more.
I think you judge way to hard, for me this is a great device.
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Where are you getting this info on kernel sources being released soon? Huawei is notoriously bad at releasing source code in a timely manner if at all. Kirin processors will never have the support and development that Qualcomm has.
xtcislove said:
Update policy is bad yes.
Kernel source will get released so custom kernels will come.
If the Kernel Source is there we can use the latest security patch on our own.
I dont see where i can customize a samsung more.
I think you judge way to hard, for me this is a great device.
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Kernel source was released for EMUI 4.1 and that was great but when Android N was rolled out (well, still being rolled out extremely slowly) we are stuck where we are now. It will probably happen again when Android M is released.
Dont get me wrong, this is a good phone but in my opinion, there are better phones out there at a similar price point with slightly better specs but much more development. However, if you are looking for a good daily driver without the tinkering, messing around, flashing stuff and etc, the P9 is a good choice.
I think you have to look at the price right now. A year ago the P9 had amazing worth compared to other smartphones like the Galaxy S7 because it was 100-200$ cheaper but it still offered very good performance.
Now a year later the P10 and S8 are out and the prices for the older models are reduced. The gap is much much smaller now (on the page where I like to buy stuff, digitec.ch): The P9 costs ~420 and the S7 costs 450.
If I had to choose between a 700$ S7 and a 500$ P9 I'd go for the P9. But between a 420$ P9 and 450$ S7? Probably for the S7.
Unless you specifically like the design or dualcamera features of the P9. Then it's still a very good phone that never feels slow and looks just amazing imho. I have it since launch and it has never let me down, it just works like a champ. Biggest flaw still remains: No way to unlock the screen from the front.
reasons i recently got this phone after my n5x bootlooped
Camera ,usb type c , screen and 3 year warranty
only reason i didnt get s7 was usb2 wtf didnt want to be messing around getting cable wrong way round every time
and for £200 bargain

Honor 8 Problems

Hello everyone!
I'm looking to make a switch to the Honor 8, which looks fantastic on paper, but I want to know if y'all have experienced any defects, software and hardware quirks, or any other reason for regretting buying the Honor 8.
LoneTempest said:
Hello everyone!
I'm looking to make a switch to the Honor 8, which looks fantastic on paper, but I want to know if y'all have experienced any defects, software and hardware quirks, or any other reason for regretting buying the Honor 8.
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Want a bug free (or the closest to that) phone? Get a Sony, Apple, Pixel or a OP. The best SW support either from official or 3rd party developers.
The rest is pointless as good hardware alone is useless when SW is not up to par. Check this forum, especially battery-wise.
H8 is a good phone with bad software support (optimisation and security updates), so you decide.
I'll disagree with Zinko on this one, the battery on Nougat isn't as good as Marshmallow but it's still as good or better than competitors.
Huawei messed up the Nougat release but their 2nd Nougat update has fixed the bugs. I'd absolutely buy this device over again, I recommend it online and in person to everyone.
The things that make the Honor 8 better than anything in the price range:
- The camera is fantastic, normally sub-$300 phones have iffy cameras, this is flagship quality
- The 5.2" screen, normally you have to get bulky 5.5"+ phones to get these features
- Huawei's Nougat update + user themes make the device look close enough to AOSP that I don't feel the need to run Lineage
I believe a combination of the two previous posts makes the most sense:
1. Other companies (Sony, Google, OPO) have lighter skins and the user experience is a bit smoother. However, it's not a deal breaker since the device works well for 98% of what you might need it for.
2. Yes, some users have experienced issues with Nougat, but others haven't. You'll only get forum posts from people with problems. You'll rarely see a thread started entitled, "all good here, nothing to say".
Get the phone because you want it, and don't presume there is some fatal flaw lurking in the forums. That is simply not the case.
If i can tell you my experience, i'll buy the Honor 8 again. I've used this phone in two differents ways: stock and rooted, but at the end i made a factory reset and reinstalled the stock firmware because the system is just good enough that root is not needed so much in my opinion. The OS is smooth, stable and responsive, the hardware is doing well almost all the time and i haven't found any problems, even when playing heavy games. The camera maybe could be better but for this price you can't find a better one. Overall the phone acts good and if i should find a defect, i would probably mention the overheating when using camera after some time. So far is the only thing i found. Everything else is ok
Prior to owning the Honor 8, the LG G4 was the best phone I'd ever owned. This one is definitely better.
It got IR so hell yes it's worth it :victory:

Should i switch from s8 to XZP?

Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
Hello . no doubt you should buy the premium xz. all videos on YouTube shows that the xz premium is faster than the s8.
Envoyé de mon G8141 en utilisant Tapatalk
Wolvym4 said:
Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
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roms? dont know about that mate, but speed its faster, also nicer screen, although the design of the s8 is better, but the XZP feels snappier, better screen, and overall just out performs the s8 in almost every corner
but in terms of rom developing this isnt the best phone I can tell you that, I dont know if things will change after android Pie is out, but nothing is sure, I hope though
but I would definatly say the S9 is better, has a better camera, screen that is also great, better design, feels better and more stylish
Wolvym4 said:
Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
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As far as official software support, Pie is the last Android XZP will get.
If you're switching from S8 in hope of getting longer software support, then XZ2/XZ2P might be a better choice for you.
As far as XZP vs S8 goes, it's difficult to say which phone is better, depends what you're looking for.
S8 has a better camera and more software toys and gadgets. However, that's the primary reason why I steer clear from Samsung and LG-the software. I've dealt with months old S8s and S9s that had lag and freezing issues, bad battery life and random shutdowns. It's behaviour I haven't seen in a single Xperia for the last five years. They just simply work, and they're built like tanks for the most part.
The second reason why I keep rocking Sony is the battery life. The first phone that got me through two days without a charge with normal usage was the Z3, and that's where I got hooked and stayed with Sony.
Xperias are just as flawed as any other brand, it's just a matter of what you're looking for.
If I needed the best camera phone on the market, I'd go for Pixel, for example.
Bottom line, if you're considering Xperia and the budget allows it, rather go for XZ2 lineup. I'm looking at the XZ2, bit I just can't stomach the design of it. Had it in my hand, it just feels odd to me, unlike XZ2P even though it's bigger. Probably a matter of being used to really slim Xperias.
As far as custom rom support goes, I'd guess the Samsung scene is richer, but then again, since I started using Sony, I stopped rooting and flashing custom roms, I just don't see the need for it. The OEM software is very clean and debloated, you can further disable stuff you don't need and you get quick monthly updates, I have yet to see a compelling reason to root it and flash a custom rom, considering my needs.
Good luck
Cheers
Went from always having Samsungs to risking it and buying an XZ Premium. I'd say don't get the XZP, to be honest. The camera is good on paper, but it's actually pretty bad compared to my Note 7. Low light is terrible. A lot of these devices (including mine) have intermittent WiFi connection issues and piss poor screen share stability with a lot of lag.
I dropped my Note 7 loads of times and it was fine. Dropped this once and the screen is all scraped. I'm going back to Samsung soon.
Future software support isn't looking good either.
Have a look at how cheap these phones are on eBay already. People are finding them hard to sell
cmac669 said:
Went from always having Samsungs to risking it and buying an XZ Premium. I'd say don't get the XZP, to be honest. The camera is good on paper, but it's actually pretty bad compared to my Note 7. Low light is terrible. A lot of these devices (including mine) have intermittent WiFi connection issues and piss poor screen share stability with a lot of lag.
I dropped my Note 7 loads of times and it was fine. Dropped this once and the screen is all scraped. I'm going back to Samsung soon.
Future software support isn't looking good either.
Have a look at how cheap these phones are on eBay already. People are finding them hard to sell
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I dont know about camera man, I tried it with my friend he has a s8 and i have xzp, unless he uses manual settings, mine on auto is better, on manual his can get pretty good only slightly better even in low light, but not enough to concider switching... in terms of dropping phone I dont know about you man, my phone dropped multiple times and I was amazed how I barely see scratches (fell like 5 heavy drops with no case on) there are drop marks on the frame of the phone but thats all. I agree wifi connection HAD issues but it was due to software bugs but now its all good.
future software support, we are confirmed to get the Android Pie, concidering the phone comes android 7 out of the box, that is 2 major updates already and we might even get the third as in after android Pie, the updates start to roll form Google them selves rather than each phone's manufacture. (I am not sure if all phones, or only the ones that come android 8 out of the box tho)
the only thing or two someone would put the S8 better than the XZP is the design and sometimes camera (not in all cases tho).
In terms of speed, no lags in the long run, battery life, screen (in terms of realistic and not colorful, as some people think the s8 is better but its only more saturated but the XZP is more realistic and has 4k HDR), the XZP is the clear winner, heck my brother has he s9+ and I still have better battery life even on 4K mode!
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Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
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I have a friend with the s8 and he really want to have the same device like me because the xz premium is a beast , more smooth , faster than s8 better screen , camera , battery etc
madshark2009 said:
I dont know about camera man, I tried it with my friend he has a s8 and i have xzp, unless he uses manual settings, mine on auto is better, on manual his can get pretty good only slightly better even in low light, but not enough to concider switching... in terms of dropping phone I dont know about you man, my phone dropped multiple times and I was amazed how I barely see scratches (fell like 5 heavy drops with no case on) there are drop marks on the frame of the phone but thats all. I agree wifi connection HAD issues but it was due to software bugs but now its all good.
future software support, we are confirmed to get the Android Pie, concidering the phone comes android 7 out of the box, that is 2 major updates already and we might even get the third as in after android Pie, the updates start to roll form Google them selves rather than each phone's manufacture. (I am not sure if all phones, or only the ones that come android 8 out of the box tho)
the only thing or two someone would put the S8 better than the XZP is the design and sometimes camera (not in all cases tho).
In terms of speed, no lags in the long run, battery life, screen (in terms of realistic and not colorful, as some people think the s8 is better but its only more saturated but the XZP is more realistic and has 4k HDR), the XZP is the clear winner, heck my brother has he s9+ and I still have better battery life even on 4K mode!
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Some fair points there, but my WiFi and lagging screen mirroring problems are still there - same with a hell of a lot of other people. If you ever have this issue, you'll soon find people flooding forums demanding that Sony give them refunds or fix the problem, since the updates didn't fix the issue at all.
I can see why you would defend the phone though. I loved it at first, but now on reflection after using it for around 8 months, I'd personally go for something else next time. Constant WiFi signal drops are getting pretty annoying.
Sony's Xperia division doesn't exactly have a good reputation for reliability, and I'm beginning to see why. And this is coming from someone you could probably call a Sony "fanboy". I think I'll stick to their PlayStations and headphones!
In terms of specs they are similar, but xz premium software is much closer to stock android.
I'm on a xz premium .and the lineage15 .1. It's very good combination . Fast smooth . 4k is here with a little procedure. s8 is slow compared to xz premium. here the applications opens instantly. the video proves that the original xz is faster than the s8. slightly. so better. after only your choice is important.
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Some fair points there, but my WiFi and lagging screen mirroring problems are still there - same with a hell of a lot of other people. If you ever have this issue, you'll soon find people flooding forums demanding that Sony give them refunds or fix the problem, since the updates didn't fix the issue at all.
I can see why you would defend the phone though. I loved it at first, but now on reflection after using it for around 8 months, I'd personally go for something else next time. Constant WiFi signal drops are getting pretty annoying.
Sony's Xperia division doesn't exactly have a good reputation for reliability, and I'm beginning to see why. And this is coming from someone you could probably call a Sony "fanboy". I think I'll stick to their PlayStations and headphones!
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like yah im not saying XZP is the best phone and after trying sony for a while i think there are better options out there, but i wouldnt go for the S8, I would go for S9 to feel a worthful upgrade, or google pixel, or iphone X

Vivo PD1805F_EX_A_8.11.1 central discussion

0. Have you received the OTA update / which region are you in?
1. Is the notification delayed problem fixed?
2. Do you experience a slow charging problem?
3. Battery performance
4. Any new feature/bug
5. Any other business
chanlokhung said:
0. Have you received the OTA update / which region are you in?
1. Is the notification delayed problem fixed?
2. Do you experience a slow charging problem?
3. Battery performance
4. Any new feature/bug
5. Any other business
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1. Notification problem not fixed as far as I can tell.
2. Too early to tell as I just installed it.
3. Too early to tell
4. Some bloatware, Hot Apps and Hot Games. Still looking for anything else.
5. Will update my experience in the next few days.
This is a real shame and I'm going to have to start looking for another phone since this may be the last update we receive. Why they wouldn't address the notification problem is baffling.
Twotems said:
1. Notification problem not fixed as far as I can tell.
2. Too early to tell as I just installed it.
3. Too early to tell
4. Some bloatware, Hot Apps and Hot Games. Still looking for anything else.
5. Will update my experience in the next few days.
This is a real shame and I'm going to have to start looking for another phone since this may be the last update we receive. Why they wouldn't address the notification problem is baffling.
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It really is time to get the new phone. I'm looking at note10+ atm. Vivo Nex is such a beast, still today, but the software, locked bootloader and slow updates are really getting on my nerves for quite some time. Such a shame, imagine nex with other ROMs...
Number 8 said:
It really is time to get the new phone. I'm looking at note10+ atm. Vivo Nex is such a beast, still today, but the software, locked bootloader and slow updates are really getting on my nerves for quite some time. Such a shame, imagine nex with other ROMs...
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Agreed in hardware vivo nex is one of the best especially the coolest s845 among all phones i've tried. Its infamous software is undoubtly agreed by the majority in this forum.
BTW: The worst software maintenance I have ever had is ASUS. Just a quick tip for those concerning software update quality.
Number 8 said:
It really is time to get the new phone. I'm looking at note10+ atm. Vivo Nex is such a beast, still today, but the software, locked bootloader and slow updates are really getting on my nerves for quite some time. Such a shame, imagine nex with other ROMs...
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I'm not willing to pay $1,300+ for a phone and I don't like punch holes etc, even though it would sync perfectly with my Tab S6.
chanlokhung said:
Agreed in hardware vivo nex is one of the best especially the coolest s845 among all phones i've tried. Its infamous software is undoubtly agreed by the majority in this forum.
BTW: The worst software maintenance I have ever had is ASUS. Just a quick tip for those concerning software update quality.
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It's funny you say that because I'll probably be getting the Zenfone 7 Pro. I had a Zenfone 2 and had zero issues with it. The Zenfone 7 meets all my requirements especially the full screen. But in addition a huge battery, NFC, all the 5G bands and it's US/Taiwanese so a lot more secure than the Chinese phones I've been using exclusively for the past 7 years.
Twotems said:
I'm not willing to pay $1,300+ for a phone and I don't like punch holes etc, even though it would sync perfectly with my Tab S6.
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I can't stand the punch hole fad, that is one of the reasons I love my NEX. Here where I live note10+ is around 700-800$ and the newest note20 ultra is around 1300$ which is crazy to pay for a phone. And it's not worth it anyway, it's almost the same as note10+. I just need a phone close to 7" display, no punch hole and 90hz+. Can't find any, closest is oneplus 7t pro, but it's basically the same as NEX.
Mate 20x 5g seems like a nice phone...
Number 8 said:
I can't stand the punch hole fad, that is one of the reasons I love my NEX. Here where I live note10+ is around 700-800$ and the newest note20 ultra is around 1300$ which is crazy to pay for a phone. And it's not worth it anyway, it's almost the same as note10+. I just need a phone close to 7" display, no punch hole and 90hz+. Can't find any, closest is oneplus 7t pro, but it's basically the same as NEX.
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That's why I'm seriously considering the Zenfone 7. It's got everything I need including 90hz. I don't use or need wireless charging (especially with a 5000mah battery) or waterproofing. They've also committed to two years of updates which is good enough for me. One more thing (from when I had the old one) is a very active forum and good customer service unlike Vivo.
Twotems said:
I'm not willing to pay $1,300+ for a phone and I don't like punch holes etc, even though it would sync perfectly with my Tab S6.
It's funny you say that because I'll probably be getting the Zenfone 7 Pro. I had a Zenfone 2 and had zero issues with it. The Zenfone 7 meets all my requirements especially the full screen. But in addition a huge battery, NFC, all the 5G bands and it's US/Taiwanese so a lot more secure than the Chinese phones I've been using exclusively for the past 7 years.
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My experience is Padfone S, the most horrible things in the world. For hardware part, the screen dies (after 360 days of purchase) right before warranty ends (365 days). They should have timed better so that I need to change my phone after 366 days.
For software part,
The system is eating up all rams and getting unusable after android 5 updates. For other 2GB ram phones across the same period are able to at least keep 2 apps opened. Every single app need to be reloaded after switching between apps. They didn't even plan to release android 6 which they promised 2 years of software support until fury in the Taiwan forum and someone is going to sue the company. And you can guess the result, the android 6 software is also a piece of **** with countless bugs.
My iPhone 7 plus has been using for 4 years and still doing very well (smooth) in today's applications. If divides the price by the number of years it's performing, it is much cheaper than Padfone S which becomes unusable after 3 months of purchase.
F**k ASUS.
chanlokhung said:
My experience is Padfone S, the most horrible things in the world. For hardware part, the screen dies (after 360 days of purchase) right before warranty ends (365 days). They should have timed better so that I need to change my phone after 366 days.
For software part,
The system is eating up all rams and getting unusable after android 5 updates. For other 2GB ram phones across the same period are able to at least keep 2 apps opened. Every single app need to be reloaded after switching between apps. They didn't even plan to release android 6 which they promised 2 years of software support until fury in the Taiwan forum and someone is going to sue the company. And you can guess the result, the android 6 software is also a piece of **** with countless bugs.
My iPhone 7 plus has been using for 4 years and still doing very well (smooth) in today's applications. If divides the price by the number of years it's performing, it is much cheaper than Padfone S which becomes unusable after 3 months of purchase.
F**k ASUS.
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That's too bad. My girlfriend is still using my Padfone X (At&t) from 2014 on 4.4 Kitkat and it's not the greatest but it's still good for media. I also have a Google Nexus 2013 (by Asus) but the screen broke and I can't find one so it's retired now. Never had a problem with any of them or my Zenfone 2.
Most people rooted and changed the rom on the Padfone S and it performed very well I hear. If you love your iPhone so much then stick with it. Personally I could never use such a restrictive OS.
I notice my GPS google crash, cant use now..try to reinstall and nothing happend
Twotems said:
That's why I'm seriously considering the Zenfone 7. It's got everything I need including 90hz. I don't use or need wireless charging (especially with a 5000mah battery) or waterproofing. They've also committed to two years of updates which is good enough for me. One more thing (from when I had the old one) is a very active forum and good customer service unlike Vivo.
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I'd like to have edge display once again, the last time I got it few years ago on my s6 edge+... Got the update just now and it does not fix the whatsapp not showing on lockscreen, another s.hit update from VIVO...
Number 8 said:
I'd like to have edge display once again, the last time I got it few years ago on my s6 edge+... Got the update just now and it does not fix the whatsapp not showing on lockscreen, another s.hit update from VIVO...
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WhatsApp shows on my lockscreen with no issues. My problem is delayed notifications which they didn't address.
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martinjo24 said:
I notice my GPS google crash, cant use now..try to reinstall and nothing happend
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What's GPS Google?
Its okay now
Full recovery Update: http://in-sysuptxdl.vivoglobal.com/...8182309235b0187adcd5ad67d74dbc394d81fe947.zip
0. Have you received the OTA update / which region are you in? France but like Indian version (aka International)
1. Is the notification delayed problem fixed ? Not so, i don't have this issue
2. Do you experience a slow charging problem? Seems ok here
3. Battery performance Waiting for full cycle to understand but actually seems bad
4. Any new feature/bug An huge upgrade on camera can be nice, because Vivo can easily fight againt GCam for my opinion
5. Any other business Stay safe and protect your family, it's important

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