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I was wondering if buying this phone is still worth it in 2017 (second hand) compared to other phones in this price range ($250)
better get the galaxy s7.
Raulz0r said:
I was wondering if buying this phone is still worth it in 2017 (second hand) compared to other phones in this price range ($250)
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No it isnt
Raulz0r said:
I was wondering if buying this phone is still worth it in 2017 (second hand) compared to other phones in this price range ($250)
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Absolutely.
It is not, rather get the S7 or Huawei P10 if you must.
Huawei has shown poor support for the P9 depending on your region, which will only get worse since the P10 has been released. :/
MHBGT said:
It is not, rather get the S7 or Huawei P10 if you must.
Huawei has shown poor support for the P9 depending on your region, which will only get worse since the P10 has been released. :/
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I totally agree. The support for the P9 has totally dwindled in that many of us are awaiting Android 7! Every other major player has released it for the current line and so many of the lines from the past! Yet we have a phone less than a year old which is not being supported!
Happy with mine and Android 7/EMUI 5
as time goes by i'm starting to hate this device.
-stars to lag when internal memory is about 1.5gb free (it still lags even with more free internal memory)
-average GPS performance
-poor ram management (my nexus 5 is way better when it comes to multi tasking)
-battery drain
-camera quality depends on the lighting conditions
-outdated security patch (i still have the december patch/no OTA yet)
-not future proof
I really like the phone, had it for a few months now. I got it this year and had no issues with it.
I did flash L09C432B378 and all working great at the mo.
shaunydub said:
Happy with mine and Android 7/EMUI 5
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Good for you... But us in the UK are still on Android 6/EMUI 4.1
Thats really bad!!!!!
If you can get yourself a good deal on it, and get one unbranded so you are not stuck on old software by lazy carriers (shame on you EE - you've had 3 months!) then this phone is fantastic.
In the 11 months I've had it I've not rooted it. The first Android phone ever to make that claim with me. Hell, I haven't even factory reset it yet. It is still snappy. Best camera I've ever had on a phone, especially if you get good at flicking to manual mode, learning basic photography, and using the RAW files to edit afterwards. The simple auto mode gets it right most of the time, but as is standard, performace decreases with light levels.
The only things its really missing in 2017 is wireless charging, OIS, and decent video recording.
But that is just my humble opinion.
What I would say though is I wish I had been more careful with the battery. Charging it up to 100% every time now means that I am seeing about 85% performance of the new battery. This is nothing newsworthy. It's common knowledge 12 to 18 months down the road performance drops off sealed Li-Po batteries. Started charging it to 80% to try and get another few months out of it.
U can buy it!
I was a bit unclear when i saw the mess with rooting and custom roms on this phone, but if huawei will release the kernel source soon we are good to go.
EMUI 5 is great, smooth fast and easy to use and the theme editor is great.
For me this Phone works just great.
for me,i have it 10 months now,very satisfied,no lags,no problem,strong build device,he fell off hundreds of time,no scratch at all and I didn't use screen protector
tmohammad said:
Good for you... But us in the UK are still on Android 6/EMUI 4.1
Thats really bad!!!!!
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There is no reason to be on Android 6. Plenty of guides around to update it and is very easy.
I personally wont get it. You can get an S7 for a cheap price now but the only downside is touchwiz.
Here are some questions you want to answer:
Is having an up to date phone with good support from the manufacturer important?
Do you want a phone that will last 3-4 years with security updates?
Do you care about things like custom kernels, tweaking, custom roms?
You want a phone that is pact full of features and very customization?
If you said No to all of them or most of them, then get the P9. Its a good smartphone if you want something that just does the trick with no thrills but the downside is that this phone wont get much updates past the 1.5 - 2 years mark.
If you said Yes to all or most of those questions, then there is other options within that price range. A 2nd hand S7 or a OnePlus 3 (or 3T) may be a better option.
Z-Blade said:
I personally wont get it. You can get an S7 for a cheap price now but the only downside is touchwiz.
Here are some questions you want to answer:
Is having an up to date phone with good support from the manufacturer important?
Do you want a phone that will last 3-4 years with security updates?
Do you care about things like custom kernels, tweaking, custom roms?
You want a phone that is pact full of features and very customization?
If you said No to all of them or most of them, then get the P9. Its a good smartphone if you want something that just does the trick with no thrills but the downside is that this phone wont get much updates past the 1.5 - 2 years mark.
If you said Yes to all or most of those questions, then there is other options within that price range. A 2nd hand S7 or a OnePlus 3 (or 3T) may be a better option.
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Update policy is bad yes.
Kernel source will get released so custom kernels will come.
If the Kernel Source is there we can use the latest security patch on our own.
I dont see where i can customize a samsung more.
I think you judge way to hard, for me this is a great device.
xtcislove said:
Update policy is bad yes.
Kernel source will get released so custom kernels will come.
If the Kernel Source is there we can use the latest security patch on our own.
I dont see where i can customize a samsung more.
I think you judge way to hard, for me this is a great device.
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Where are you getting this info on kernel sources being released soon? Huawei is notoriously bad at releasing source code in a timely manner if at all. Kirin processors will never have the support and development that Qualcomm has.
xtcislove said:
Update policy is bad yes.
Kernel source will get released so custom kernels will come.
If the Kernel Source is there we can use the latest security patch on our own.
I dont see where i can customize a samsung more.
I think you judge way to hard, for me this is a great device.
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Kernel source was released for EMUI 4.1 and that was great but when Android N was rolled out (well, still being rolled out extremely slowly) we are stuck where we are now. It will probably happen again when Android M is released.
Dont get me wrong, this is a good phone but in my opinion, there are better phones out there at a similar price point with slightly better specs but much more development. However, if you are looking for a good daily driver without the tinkering, messing around, flashing stuff and etc, the P9 is a good choice.
I think you have to look at the price right now. A year ago the P9 had amazing worth compared to other smartphones like the Galaxy S7 because it was 100-200$ cheaper but it still offered very good performance.
Now a year later the P10 and S8 are out and the prices for the older models are reduced. The gap is much much smaller now (on the page where I like to buy stuff, digitec.ch): The P9 costs ~420 and the S7 costs 450.
If I had to choose between a 700$ S7 and a 500$ P9 I'd go for the P9. But between a 420$ P9 and 450$ S7? Probably for the S7.
Unless you specifically like the design or dualcamera features of the P9. Then it's still a very good phone that never feels slow and looks just amazing imho. I have it since launch and it has never let me down, it just works like a champ. Biggest flaw still remains: No way to unlock the screen from the front.
reasons i recently got this phone after my n5x bootlooped
Camera ,usb type c , screen and 3 year warranty
only reason i didnt get s7 was usb2 wtf didnt want to be messing around getting cable wrong way round every time
and for £200 bargain
Hi everyone,
My Xperia Z3 which I love is unfortunately dying and I need to replace it.
I'm buying either Honor 8 or Redmi Note 4 (if I decide to save some money - and also I like the big screen).
So, my question is: is Honor 8 still worth buying now around 320-330€? Is it worth double the price of the Note 4? I know it has no custom rom support, but:
-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
If the answer of all these questions is meh, I'll go with Redmi Note 4.
Thanks to everyone who will reply!
Yes still worth buying. Honor /Huawei have a sale on the Honor 8 if the phone fits your needs go for it.. It's a great device.. Just my 2 cents worth..
francesco_mnz said:
Hi everyone,
My Xperia Z3 which I love is unfortunately dying and I need to replace it.
I'm buying either Honor 8 or Redmi Note 4 (if I decide to save some money - and also I like the big screen).
So, my question is: is Honor 8 still worth buying now around 320-330€? Is it worth double the price of the Note 4? I know it has no custom rom support, but:
-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
If the answer of all these questions is meh, I'll go with Redmi Note 4.
Thanks to everyone who will reply!
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Display in sunlight and battery, camera , average performance very good, things that i dont recommend this device to other probably low in loud speaker quality.
Rumor: There's going to be a new version announced/released in the next two to three months at an event in Taipei. I'd guess it'll have a Kirin 960 which has a much nicer GPU.
Huawei has been VERY bad with updates. I was using the B360 release until yesterday or the day before when B385 was pushed to me via OTA. A number of posters still haven't received that update and they're none too happy about it. B360 came out at the end of December 2016 and B385 just came out a week into May which is an unacceptably long time to be running months out of date security.
B385 may have introduced battery life problems I wasn't experiencing, but which others have been on B360. I have only been using it a day or two though, so it's hard for me to say for sure as of yet as my phone has spent most of its time on my PC or next to my bed charging.
Hopefully, the people who are still on B360 get B385 soon, hopefully the worse battery on my phone is just my imagination, and we'll get a timely update next month, but those things are all yet to be seen. If Huawei gets the update out to other Honor 8 owners within the next week, gets the May security update out in early June, and starts keeping up to date, then I'll be happy with the phone, but that remains to be seen.
It is a great phone, but if you buy one you may be stuck using 5 month out of date software indefinitely, and even if you get B385 right away we don't know that the next update will be out in a month. It could be not until November or never to get the update after it. Combine that with that a new version of the phone will probably be announced and available in a couple months and I'd say to wait. We don't know if or when Android O is coming to the Honor 8. As much as I like this phone I can't recommend buying it at the current time.
We still aren't getting any communication from Huawei/Honor as to what to expect as far as future updates. And that's really troubling.
I would suggest waiting for this years release which I would expect to be out soon or looking at the One Plus 3T. One Plus is rumored to be coming out with the One Plus 5 sometime soon too, so right now is not really a great time to be buying a phone if you can wait.
Thanks all for replying. Honor seems to be a big disappointment, it's good but something form Huawei is always lacking...
I can wait hoping that my phone survives until the summer one plus 3t is a bit too expensive, I'm still thinking of saving some money and go for Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2, even if I know Honor feels more like a "top phone".
If anyone will give some other opinion it will be so much appreciated.
Well, just to say my opinion
Fisrt of all, I had a lots of smartphones
Just the last 20 months I had more then 5 phones changed
The thing is, I am reading on xda for every phone the same like I wont buy LG or Sony or Samsung ever again.. its allways the same talk..
Like allways people searched for the best thing for the money and then got disapointed by something and than started like I wont buy LG anymore
Next thing thay do is buying something else.. the best for the money and again talk bad about it..
WHY??
Well, guys you must realize that the one usually are disapointed were looking for the perfect one for the money
Well, there is not evan one phone on the market wich is PERFECT FOR THE MONEY
Couse it always will be short on something
Like locked bootloader and no xda support or like no support from the manufacturer but then a bit of xda support or the build qualitie maybee good but then it is maybe fingerprint magnet..
Just be aware of that you will never get all for the money.. it is and will be allways like that..
So when you want to buy any phone be ready to be satisfide with it as is.. dont be wanting all of it for the money.. no phone has it
Soo, if you want now to consider things and this Honor 8 be prepared to like it in a way that allmost everything is ok.. allmost.. like awesome look.. premium feel but easy to scretch or be a fingerprint magnet.. able to unlock the bootloader and root and install twrp.. great battery like 9hours of SoT on B381.. great speed.. allmost perfect..BUT for now not much of custom rom support wich can change with getting the source code.. soo the best is yet to come
Soo, its almost perfect.. but dont look for perfect
You will never find it
Not evan iPhone is perfect
Look for something you will like it as is
And after like 20 smatphones I had this one is the best of it
In real world beating phones like double the priceed like pixel.. not benchmark numbers but real time speed of opening apps or things like that
Look on you tube real time speed and performance
You just can not go wrong with this phone for that money
Hope you will think about my advice
Not be looking for the best on the market
Evan samsung s8+ users are after one week of use complaining about things couse they also thought for that money s8 would be the best.. and that got dissapointed with it too..
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aypUksJ647c
Going back to the original question, it's a fantastic phone but you can try to get it for less than you mentioned. Don't know where you live but in the UK every now and then the price gets really good. The other day one of the supermarket chains was selling them for £200 and for that kind of money it's a no-brainer.
Bii @sysak
Thanks for the you tube link
That is what I try to say about this phone and real time performans.. ?
brljak83 said:
Bii @sysak
Thanks for the you tube link
That is what I try to say about this phone and real time performans..
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Depends on what you value.
It's a "value" phone so it sits on a sweet spot. If you value bug correction and updates, I would say definitely no. If you want a nice phone and are a basic user, then yes, get it.
Please just don't go on any trade-in program with Honor/Huawei. My Honor7 had zero scratches (always tempered glass and protective case) and after receiving my phone on their side, they lowered £10 on the evaluation. i rejected it in the 20th March. I haven't received my phone back yet. :crying:
The brand cares about new customers, not so much about existing ones (it's my 2nd Honor). Hence why the budget goes to advertisement and not to supporting developing community or regular updates/fixes.
Hii @zinko_pt
Thanks for the answer
And I must say I had evan phones wich were missing evan what we have right now with this honor 8
Couse this phone has some software support but its slow like for the ota updates
But had some cheaper phones from like LG wich were stuck at what came out of the box and that was it.. but then I had some phones like Samsung A5 2016 wich are the same price but are not evan close to this phone with its premium build and better support and for the same price evan better benchmarks.. so that is also for A5 2017 where you pay just the overpriced Samsung name..
So yes, it indeed is in some kind of price to value sweet spot..and I would recommend it evan now after one year.. so evan this year of 2017 it is a good phone to buy... Like an flagship for the midrange class
francesco_mnz said:
Hi everyone,
My Xperia Z3 which I love is unfortunately dying and I need to replace it.
I'm buying either Honor 8 or Redmi Note 4 (if I decide to save some money - and also I like the big screen).
So, my question is: is Honor 8 still worth buying now around 320-330€? Is it worth double the price of the Note 4? I know it has no custom rom support, but:
-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
If the answer of all these questions is meh, I'll go with Redmi Note 4.
Thanks to everyone who will reply!
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I just upgraded from the Z3 compact, and although the large format is hard to handle with one hand, mostly everything else about the phone is a huge step up from the Z3 series. The Honor's camera is very sharp with greater detail than the Z3 and at nearly half the price, it's hard to beat for the money. Like any phone in this price range, it's not perfect, but it's flaws are outweighed by it's value.
It doesn't hold charge while sleeping the way Sony does, but it sips battery while in use like a tiny bird. I easily get 6-7hrs of screen on time where I couldn't get more than 4 with the Z3C.
The single speaker is louder than the dual Sony speakers but won't win any awards for sound quality.
And though it has its quirks, EMUI is way more customizable than Sony ever could be, and I'm not talking about silly themes.
Finally, nothing beats this fingerprint reader.
Go for it! The Honor 9 might be better, but there's always something new coming out. If you really want to upgrade again, sell the Honor 8.
francesco_mnz said:
Hi everyone,
-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
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Honor 6 was released with android 4 and later updated to 5.x and then to 6.0.x, if we are lucky, probably honor 8 will get O as well.
Display and battery are good.
Thanks to everyone. I don't know why, but the Honor 8 price is rising instead of dropping:/ a couple of months ago I could get it for more or less 320€, now it's like 345€:/
I'm in a very similar situation since I got my Honor 8 to replace a dying Sony Z2.
I really liked my Z2, and even being as old as it was, there is no phone out there that I would have voluntarily given up my Z2 for.
That said, I am happy with my H8, and I am not looking back.
In their times, the Z2 and Z3 were both high-end phones. I would call the H8 a mid-range phone.
If you are willing to spend upwards of US$500, then there are better phones out there -- Sony XZ, Huawei P9 Pro... etc.
Like a previous post said, the H8 does not have stereo speakers, but the sound from the single speaker at the bottom is better than my Z2 was. The Z2 had a specific problem with the speaker phone being low... I can now actually use my speaker phone.
The H8 also lacks the water proof feature of the high-end Sony's. While I never immersed my Z2, it seemed to die of something that could have been moisture intrusion.
Point is that I really do not miss either of those features in daily use.
Sony was excellent with updates. Only a Nexus device (or Pixel, or whatever) could have been better. I am hoping that Huawei supports this phone for a while, but I would have to say that IMHO expecting them to be as good as Sony was in this respect is not a reasonable expectation. Notice also that I said ..."as good as Sony was". Sony seems to be shrinking in the market, so going forward, they may not be as good as they were.
Camera: My Sony would shoot 4K video --- for about 30 seconds before it would either produce an file that ate all available storage, or it would over heat. I never used it. For anything other than comparing specs (anything practical) I think I can actually do more cool/impressive photography with the H8.
Speed: I have no speed complaints at all with the H8. I've never noticed a lag or anything happening at a speed that would even begin to cause frustration. Processor speed and cost caused the H8 to easily win out for me over the XZ.
Another thing that should not be ignored is Huawei's reputation for building better radios. With both this phone and an old Honor 2, I notice better signal (real, and number of bars) in fringe areas.
Lastly, the feel of the H8 must be mentioned. The feel/build quality/whatever you want to call it is better than any other phone in it's price class.
I agree with the other poster that said (as you mention -- especially in May of 2017) don't over pay for it. Today it should be viewed strictly as a mid-range daily use phone. Decide which range you are in and act/pay accordingly.
Sony have a great reputation for SW update. I've witness this. Z3C phone and tablet had update until 6.0.1, from a SD801. The only reason there is no oficial Nougat update is because Google doesn't want it to happen. But Z3C was beta for Nougat. I can't even remember how hold is my tablet but runs fantastic, zero bugs.
Now moving on to Huawei/Honor, Emui5.1 is coming out on new devices, not available on old.
P9 flagship is still Emui5. Not even mentioning 7.1.1 or latest security updates. When and if they're implemented, they're already outdated.
Honor7 got 1 OS version update and no Nougat. Not even the promised 2 year support.
If we take examples from other brands (OnePlus is also under fire due to false promises about software updates) software updates might be, if not are actually be, the number one thing users get disappointed.
There's definitely a trend amongst some manufacturers to drop support too soon for devices. Apple, very much bashed, is an example of OS support, which is sad.
I heard Honor US has promised to provide this region with two years of updated. Even if they don't, root.
Aside from being able to have exploits run that require root and breaking whatever OTAs we get It's unclear what the point of rooting would be on the Honor 8. There isn't much you can do unless I'm missing something.
Windvcloud said:
Recommend you consider the P10 lite
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P10 lite instead of Honor 8?
P10 lite:
1. Micro USB
2. No IR
3. Kirin 658< Kirin 950
4. DDR3 RAM
5. Mali T830MP2 (40.8 GFlops)
Honor 8:
1. USB- C
2. IR blaster
3. Kirin 950> Kirin 658
4. DDR4 RAM for 4Gb version
5. Mali T840MP2 (122.4GFlops)
6. Fast battery charging
If you are concerned about constant update flagship phone are your best bet. Honor 8 is in a bad position because of it is a sub brand and has a smaller team you won't get update as often. However it is still a flagship of honor brand thus might qualify for 2 yr support. If you can buy it at the price of midrange phone like p10lite go ahead coz it's a capable phone you won't feel like it's a cheap phone performance wise come android O.
brljak83 said:
Hii @zinko_pt
Thanks for the answer
And I must say I had evan phones wich were missing evan what we have right now with this honor 8
Couse this phone has some software support but its slow like for the ota updates
But had some cheaper phones from like LG wich were stuck at what came out of the box and that was it.. but then I had some phones like Samsung A5 2016 wich are the same price but are not evan close to this phone with its premium build and better support and for the same price evan better benchmarks.. so that is also for A5 2017 where you pay just the overpriced Samsung name..
So yes, it indeed is in some kind of price to value sweet spot..and I would recommend it evan now after one year.. so evan this year of 2017 it is a good phone to buy... Like an flagship for the midrange class
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It all comes down to promises: if a brand makes a promise to support a device for 2 years and release the source code, and then disregard them, it makes untrustworthy. Simple.
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Rommco05 said:
Huawei have allready implemented features from 7.1.1 they dont need this update (except security patch). P8lite rollout with EMUI 4.0 and after some time was updated to EMUI
4.1. Its true Honor and users was confused with Nougat updates, but now start (slowly) pushing realy good updates... In my opinion, one time push to our devices EMUI 5.1 and maybe Android O...
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That "except" is the tricky part isn't it? It's security, something with you should roll your dices and see how it goes. We can discuss features but not so security. And Huawei/Honor is always way behind schedule to release security patches. Just not acceptable.
I'm impressed with all video reviews about the Mate 9 and I was about to buy one for myself but I read by coincidence that the Mate 10 with EMUI 6 & Android O on board, hopefully, is on its way so probably I'll buy this model instead but one issue is bothering me with Huawei & their update policy. They said that their phones will get updates every 3 months approximately for the 1st year, then they will stop pushing EMUI updates but they 'll pass on security updates in the 2nd year. Source: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/huawei-commits-to-24-months-of-security-software-updates-for-its-devices-875550
& tons of people are complaining everywhere about very slow updates and/or being left behind even with costly phones they bought few months ago!!
The question is: if they stop EMUI updates after 1st year for Mate 10, do they mean I won't get OTA updates for EMUI 8 & Android Q in 2019?
i.e. Can i still be able to visit their site and download official updates & install it myself manually through some official software? or they mean there will be NO updates at all? (i.e. I'll have to go through all the hassle of unlocking, rooting and installing a custom ROM?)
Let use as an example the LG V20 "The first device with Android 7.0" released October 2016, And it's still on Android 7.0
LG G6 and G5 still on 7.0
Samsung S7 and of course S8 still on 7.0
unless you're using a Pixel/Nexus don't get your hopes up of timely updates from any OEM.
With that said, I'm confident the Mate 9 will get "O" but who knows when. Well I hope....
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Do not worry about it. There are several ways to update your ROM. But my suggestion is that if your current ROM works well,
then no need to update it. Every update brings trouble to user, data loss, not smooth, bug, etc. so the best way is to find a
ROM work well, then keep it, do not update any more. The fact is the newer ROM, worse using experience. I do hope to
downgrade my Mate 9 to be Andriod 6, so I can install Xposed Frame, which is very powerful.
Anyway, Mate 9 is the best phone at present, it worth to buy. Do not be hestiate.
luyongfeng said:
Do not worry about it. There are several ways to update your ROM. But my suggestion is that if your current ROM works well,
then no need to update it. Every update brings trouble to user, data loss, not smooth, bug, etc. so the best way is to find a
ROM work well, then keep it, do not update any more. The fact is the newer ROM, worse using experience. I do hope to
downgrade my Mate 9 to be Andriod 6, so I can install Xposed Frame, which is very powerful.
Anyway, Mate 9 is the best phone at present, it worth to buy. Do not be hestiate.
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Newer update should not make the device worse. And if it does, the OEM f***** up big time. And in my past experience Huawei is doing exactly that.
Both ridiculous advice.
Not updating your phone is bad from a security perspective, and blindly doing so without taking a full-backup is also suicidal.
This should be in the Q&A section.
Pretty much all Android manufacturers will be too slow to update.. or probably never will.. exception is Nexus/Pixel..
Had a Xiaomi Mi Max before.. the STABLE update is stupid slow.. DEVELOPER one is weekly basis, usually on latest version.. but can be buggy..
Bought the Mate 9 3 weeks ago.. and loving it so far.. especially its superb camera (which i feel is better than S8 ones and definitely better than Mi 6 which i returned after 2 days).. and big battery.. also its fast, comparable to Snapdragon 835 (on the Mi 6)..
If you got a good deal, go for it.. in my case, retail price was RM2699 (approx USD620) and i got it for MYR1905 (approx USD440) with free original flip case and glass protector and free shipping..
The Mate 9 is the best phone on the market atm, it doesn't have wow factor when you see it, but it will WOW you after you'll use it.
However, on recent updates(weren't approved by Huawei as far as i know, but released through Firmware Finder) the phone became laggy af, chrome and web browsing is slow and can't play tekken 6 at all, i had to go back to the safest and most stable update, B181.
As far as phone goes, it never slows down and it does everything just perfect, the battery is great at all times, as for updates don't expect much, though it isn't exclusive to Huawei, if you care a lot about updates, buy Pixel XL.
I have to agree. My Mate 9 is absolutely amazing. Coming off the 3t and Pixel, I knew development would be next to nothing in comparison and was comfortable with that. As another user stated though, it's the security updates Im worried about. I'm still on April security patch. Other than r YouTube but I can't shake, the phone is flawless and the learning your habits feature is great! Here's hoping they don't skimp on the ir blaster for the 10!
ikenvape said:
I have to agree. My Mate 9 is absolutely amazing. Coming off the 3t and Pixel, I knew development would be next to nothing in comparison and was comfortable with that. As another user stated though, it's the security updates Im worried about. I'm still on April security patch. Other than r YouTube but I can't shake, the phone is flawless and the learning your habits feature is great! Here's hoping they don't skimp on the ir blaster for the 10!
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It's funny, because they actually release updates each month for almost all different regions. BUT they don't approve peoples IMEI so they never get the updates...
ante0 said:
It's funny, because they actually release updates each month for almost all different regions. BUT they don't approve peoples IMEI so they never get the updates...
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hey if use vpn change region can get update ? My mate 9 l29c636b181 check np update always
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hey if use vpn change region can get update ? My mate 9 l29c636b181 check np update always
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I think you need to use a sim for that region (Asian in this case, not sure if it has to be any specific).
I bought my phone in Germany so I think I'd need to use a German sim to get updates. I always use the Hwota method to update though.
Mate 9 was never released in Sweden so I don't think I'll ever get OTA updates.
This question is almost a month old now, but I'd like to put in my 2 cents in case someone else's wondering.
At the time of this writing, Mate 10 is supposed to be launched on the 16th of October and expected release is late October or November. If I was deciding between the two phones, I would wait a bit after the phone is available to see feedback on hits and misses, that's at the very least a month or two after release. So that effectively puts it at December / January for me. Other current factors for deciding between 10 and 9 is price as well how easy it is for you to resell should you decide to buy the Mate 9 now and upgrade later. I expect the Mate 10 to launch at a higher price than what you can get the Mate 9 for at the moment.
Huawei's marketing is promising big things for the Mate 10, even saying it'll be better than the upcoming iPhone, but I have a feeling that we've been through this before in the past and that we'll believe it when see it (not holding a breath here).
The rumours so far point towards improved, bezel-less display with slightly higher resolution, improved battery life and charging, as well as the possibility of seeing a new processor.
I would love too see a more globally available 128GB version (and to a lesser extent, a 256GB option). Speaking of internal storage limitations, it would be nice at the very least to have a dedicated SD card slot, making it easier to run a dual SIM setup without affecting storage capabilities. I'm not sure the Mate 10 would be addressing this. Waterproofing would be nice. I was a big fan of AMOLED in the past, but I think I may be leaning a little bit towards LCDs after using the Mate 9. Let's see what the 10's display is going to be like. I hope that Huawei doesn't go for a massive increase in resolution, in order to up their marketing game, as I'd hate to see it impact performance and battery life. I know all of you VR users would not like that, but the Mate is all about productivity and battery life for me. It would be nice if we can have higher, 4k resolution output to external displays though.
Now about the updates concern, I think it's a very valid question. And it does seem double-edged as some of the users have pointed out. I haven't had my Mate 9 for long (only a few days), but judging by what I read here, some firmware releases seem to have affected battery drain, although it's not clear to me whether this was caused by firmware approved by Huawei for mass-release or by users forcing installations of unapproved firmware.
On the other hand, security patches are important, and if downgrading was easy or straightforward, I would have said upgrade immediately and then roll-back afterwards if needed. Unfortunately, from what I can tell so far, it's not that straightforward. Nontheless, and regardless of how easy or difficult the process is, a good, validated backup is a must before any firmware upgrade or downgrade, and Huawei makes it relatively easy to backup using the built-in app which worked very well for me. I can very easily backup app data without the need for rooting (or enabling debugging), something that makes life very easy when upgrading and migrating.
To the user who said that it's messed up that a company would release a firmware that introduces bugs, I would say that the unfortunate truth is that many other companies are guilty of the same. Google is the first one that comes to mind, with long-standing and well documented issues on their Nexus line, particularly with battery drain and Bluetooth connectivity. So in my opinion, I wouldn't single out Huawei.
I do however feel that Huawei is, or at least was, very slow with major firmware upgrade releases, probably the slowest of all the major players. You can look up manufacturers track records for previous and current devices and draw your own conclusions (I get the impression that besides Google, HTC and Motorola lines are not so bad in contrast to Huawei, but that's just my uneducated impression). In the case of the Mate 9 though, looking at the firmware release history (check Team MT), I can see that the European (C432) and global Asian (C636) 'brands' are getting regular updates (almost monthly?). Although not all of those listed updates are necessarily approved for public release, it nevertheless does show evidence of active development. On the other hand, other regions such the US C567 and the Middle East C185, seem to get less frequent updates.
On the topic of major updates, we know it will get Android O. I have no idea whether it will get the next major update after it. My Mate 7 went through two major updates from Kit Kat to Marshmallow. of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that it'll be the same case with the Mate 9.
I wish major manufacturers would be more willing to release source code for drivers (and not just abide by the minimum source-code release requirement). It would definitely prolong the life of perfectly good hardware. If you take a look at Samsung, the situation is not that much better in terms of drivers' code release. Still, I would say custom firmware development on Huawei has got to be the worst among all the major vendors, with very little community backing. This could change seeing how some initiatives are picking up steam (see Openkirin work for other Huawei devices), but I would definitely not bank on it.
On the other hand, and as others have mentioned, the current firmware releases are solid and don't leave much to be desired, and I personally don't feel much of a need to root or mod the current state of this phone. I do run Nova launcher instead of EMUI, and phone seems to play nicely with it.
I was put off upgrading to the Mate 9 after the UFS 2.1 advertising scandal and waited as long as I could before deciding I can't live with the limitations of my previous device. Ended up going for a Mate 9 after all. Looking back, I wish I had gone for it much earlier as it's really a great phone and a pleasure to use.
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I forgot to mention that my device came with Toshiba UFS 2.0, not 2.1.
Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
Hello . no doubt you should buy the premium xz. all videos on YouTube shows that the xz premium is faster than the s8.
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Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
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roms? dont know about that mate, but speed its faster, also nicer screen, although the design of the s8 is better, but the XZP feels snappier, better screen, and overall just out performs the s8 in almost every corner
but in terms of rom developing this isnt the best phone I can tell you that, I dont know if things will change after android Pie is out, but nothing is sure, I hope though
but I would definatly say the S9 is better, has a better camera, screen that is also great, better design, feels better and more stylish
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Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
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As far as official software support, Pie is the last Android XZP will get.
If you're switching from S8 in hope of getting longer software support, then XZ2/XZ2P might be a better choice for you.
As far as XZP vs S8 goes, it's difficult to say which phone is better, depends what you're looking for.
S8 has a better camera and more software toys and gadgets. However, that's the primary reason why I steer clear from Samsung and LG-the software. I've dealt with months old S8s and S9s that had lag and freezing issues, bad battery life and random shutdowns. It's behaviour I haven't seen in a single Xperia for the last five years. They just simply work, and they're built like tanks for the most part.
The second reason why I keep rocking Sony is the battery life. The first phone that got me through two days without a charge with normal usage was the Z3, and that's where I got hooked and stayed with Sony.
Xperias are just as flawed as any other brand, it's just a matter of what you're looking for.
If I needed the best camera phone on the market, I'd go for Pixel, for example.
Bottom line, if you're considering Xperia and the budget allows it, rather go for XZ2 lineup. I'm looking at the XZ2, bit I just can't stomach the design of it. Had it in my hand, it just feels odd to me, unlike XZ2P even though it's bigger. Probably a matter of being used to really slim Xperias.
As far as custom rom support goes, I'd guess the Samsung scene is richer, but then again, since I started using Sony, I stopped rooting and flashing custom roms, I just don't see the need for it. The OEM software is very clean and debloated, you can further disable stuff you don't need and you get quick monthly updates, I have yet to see a compelling reason to root it and flash a custom rom, considering my needs.
Good luck
Cheers
Went from always having Samsungs to risking it and buying an XZ Premium. I'd say don't get the XZP, to be honest. The camera is good on paper, but it's actually pretty bad compared to my Note 7. Low light is terrible. A lot of these devices (including mine) have intermittent WiFi connection issues and piss poor screen share stability with a lot of lag.
I dropped my Note 7 loads of times and it was fine. Dropped this once and the screen is all scraped. I'm going back to Samsung soon.
Future software support isn't looking good either.
Have a look at how cheap these phones are on eBay already. People are finding them hard to sell
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Went from always having Samsungs to risking it and buying an XZ Premium. I'd say don't get the XZP, to be honest. The camera is good on paper, but it's actually pretty bad compared to my Note 7. Low light is terrible. A lot of these devices (including mine) have intermittent WiFi connection issues and piss poor screen share stability with a lot of lag.
I dropped my Note 7 loads of times and it was fine. Dropped this once and the screen is all scraped. I'm going back to Samsung soon.
Future software support isn't looking good either.
Have a look at how cheap these phones are on eBay already. People are finding them hard to sell
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I dont know about camera man, I tried it with my friend he has a s8 and i have xzp, unless he uses manual settings, mine on auto is better, on manual his can get pretty good only slightly better even in low light, but not enough to concider switching... in terms of dropping phone I dont know about you man, my phone dropped multiple times and I was amazed how I barely see scratches (fell like 5 heavy drops with no case on) there are drop marks on the frame of the phone but thats all. I agree wifi connection HAD issues but it was due to software bugs but now its all good.
future software support, we are confirmed to get the Android Pie, concidering the phone comes android 7 out of the box, that is 2 major updates already and we might even get the third as in after android Pie, the updates start to roll form Google them selves rather than each phone's manufacture. (I am not sure if all phones, or only the ones that come android 8 out of the box tho)
the only thing or two someone would put the S8 better than the XZP is the design and sometimes camera (not in all cases tho).
In terms of speed, no lags in the long run, battery life, screen (in terms of realistic and not colorful, as some people think the s8 is better but its only more saturated but the XZP is more realistic and has 4k HDR), the XZP is the clear winner, heck my brother has he s9+ and I still have better battery life even on 4K mode!
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Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
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I have a friend with the s8 and he really want to have the same device like me because the xz premium is a beast , more smooth , faster than s8 better screen , camera , battery etc
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I dont know about camera man, I tried it with my friend he has a s8 and i have xzp, unless he uses manual settings, mine on auto is better, on manual his can get pretty good only slightly better even in low light, but not enough to concider switching... in terms of dropping phone I dont know about you man, my phone dropped multiple times and I was amazed how I barely see scratches (fell like 5 heavy drops with no case on) there are drop marks on the frame of the phone but thats all. I agree wifi connection HAD issues but it was due to software bugs but now its all good.
future software support, we are confirmed to get the Android Pie, concidering the phone comes android 7 out of the box, that is 2 major updates already and we might even get the third as in after android Pie, the updates start to roll form Google them selves rather than each phone's manufacture. (I am not sure if all phones, or only the ones that come android 8 out of the box tho)
the only thing or two someone would put the S8 better than the XZP is the design and sometimes camera (not in all cases tho).
In terms of speed, no lags in the long run, battery life, screen (in terms of realistic and not colorful, as some people think the s8 is better but its only more saturated but the XZP is more realistic and has 4k HDR), the XZP is the clear winner, heck my brother has he s9+ and I still have better battery life even on 4K mode!
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Some fair points there, but my WiFi and lagging screen mirroring problems are still there - same with a hell of a lot of other people. If you ever have this issue, you'll soon find people flooding forums demanding that Sony give them refunds or fix the problem, since the updates didn't fix the issue at all.
I can see why you would defend the phone though. I loved it at first, but now on reflection after using it for around 8 months, I'd personally go for something else next time. Constant WiFi signal drops are getting pretty annoying.
Sony's Xperia division doesn't exactly have a good reputation for reliability, and I'm beginning to see why. And this is coming from someone you could probably call a Sony "fanboy". I think I'll stick to their PlayStations and headphones!
In terms of specs they are similar, but xz premium software is much closer to stock android.
I'm on a xz premium .and the lineage15 .1. It's very good combination . Fast smooth . 4k is here with a little procedure. s8 is slow compared to xz premium. here the applications opens instantly. the video proves that the original xz is faster than the s8. slightly. so better. after only your choice is important.
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Some fair points there, but my WiFi and lagging screen mirroring problems are still there - same with a hell of a lot of other people. If you ever have this issue, you'll soon find people flooding forums demanding that Sony give them refunds or fix the problem, since the updates didn't fix the issue at all.
I can see why you would defend the phone though. I loved it at first, but now on reflection after using it for around 8 months, I'd personally go for something else next time. Constant WiFi signal drops are getting pretty annoying.
Sony's Xperia division doesn't exactly have a good reputation for reliability, and I'm beginning to see why. And this is coming from someone you could probably call a Sony "fanboy". I think I'll stick to their PlayStations and headphones!
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like yah im not saying XZP is the best phone and after trying sony for a while i think there are better options out there, but i wouldnt go for the S8, I would go for S9 to feel a worthful upgrade, or google pixel, or iphone X
Hi Everyone
I'm looking to upgrade from a Oneplus 3. Previously it was a great price for good specs.
I noticed the magic 3 whilst looking at YouTube and the specs look amazing.
1 - Interested to know of those who have had it for a while would you recommend getting it?
2 - what are the main annoying factors about the phone?
3 - Are there any others in the price range I should consider? I mostly play pubg, do retoo gaming and watch films with my existing phone
Many thanks in advance
Jamie
1 - Difficult to answer....if you're not into rooting and customizing,but happy with a basic Android experience and raw power,you should buy it......otherwise,if you want 100% flagship bells and whistless for half the price,you'll have to search futher,as this phone does not 'has it all' for just €479.
2 - For me,the most annoying thing is that there's much more to squeeze out of the camera,if Nubia's app would match the capabilities......but hopefully, there will be a working Gcam release in the near future.
3 - Xiaomi Mi 9....but I fell for the RM3.....
Many thanks for the reply, I don't mind rooting if necessary.
Also happy with a basic android experience as my oneplus was pretty much that when it first came out.
Thanks for the suggestion I will look into that also ??
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Hi Everyone
I'm looking to upgrade from a Oneplus 3. Previously it was a great price for good specs.
I noticed the magic 3 whilst looking at YouTube and the specs look amazing.
1 - Interested to know of those who have had it for a while would you recommend getting it?
2 - what are the main annoying factors about the phone?
3 - Are there any others in the price range I should consider? I mostly play pubg, do retoo gaming and watch films with my existing phone
Many thanks in advance
Jamie
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I can tell the battery backup is awesome. Only problem I have is the gaming buttons are too annoying when playing a video.
I have it unrooted without gapps and IMO its better then some flagships. Reason is the big screen and the big battery and the stereo sound.
Also I prefer metal over Glas backside. And NO Notch.
The camera is better than that on my Xiaomi mi mix 3.
this phone is amazing, the only bad thing i see it had is not hdmi usb-c to support
I would wait for two main reasons:
1) Asus is going to announce their new ROG phone at the end of this month. While it will probably be a good deal more expensive, It might have some cool features
2) Nubia just announced they are going to release an 855 Plus version of this phone.
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Thing is,no matter how long you wait ,there will always be something better on the horizon after your purchase.......no matter which device you've bought...
Hi,
Considering the price and the specs, I think the Red Magic 3 is about the best phone you can have nowadays.
If you buy it, you should consider two things :
- Chinese UI has a lot of features but is ugly and themes are mostly paid ones ;
- Europe/US/Asia ROM has ZERO features.
Once I recovered from the disappointment, the second solution was clearly what I was looking for.
So here is my advice :
- take the Europe/US/Asia version and flash it to your device (if it doesn't ship with that as stock)
- unlock the bootloader
-root your phone.
All this is done in like 4/5 minutes...
Once done, install all apps to add the required features.
You will have a phone that has ONLY THE FEATURES YOU WANT.
No bloat, no unnecessary stuff...
A dream come true
Of course, it comes with a price : once rooted, you will get OTA notifications but won't be able to install them...
Regards.
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Thing is,no matter how long you wait ,there will always be something better on the horizon after your purchase.......no matter which device you've bought...
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True
If you live in North America, I'd steer clear of this company.
I ordered one of their phones last week. I still have yet to receive my shipping notice. I ordered it with priority shipping, and according to their website, it should have shipped within 24 hours of payment.
4 days after it failed to ship, I contacted support, and was told "Be patient". Ever since then, they've stopped responding to emails. They won't give me any sort of clue as to when my order will ship. Apparently this is a frequent occurrence with Red Magic.
They're one of those companies that are only interested in getting devices out to reviewers, everyone else is to fend for themselves.
The support page on their website doesn't work. Apparently they didn't pay for it. Nubia cannot give any answers either, they just argue back in forth in the support email with several of the employees arguing about who's job it is to deal with.
If you ever receive a phone from them, and have an issue, good luck with that. Their current company (if you can call it that) shows that can't deal with supporting their devices. They can't even deal with fulfilling orders.
Stay far far away from this company, for you own good.
Is there likely to significant difference between the 8gb and 12gb ram? I think I'm going to get it but wonder if it's worth the extra money. Also just seen they mentioned the magic 4 by the end of the year. So maybe prices will come down
Well I'm in N.A. and I bought it from the site day it released. Great phone, few bugs at the moment and its a gaming phone at heart with stock Android, easily customizable. Honestly any game task you throw at it handles like a boss. It's an emulation dream with built in buttons. My controller and case should arrive the 22nd and I'm sure it will be great. I can tell you any Bluetooth controller works well on it too. The choice to buy is up to you, basically do you want a gaming phone or something else.
I have had this for two days in the USA and I love it. Usually I have buyer's remorse and would be looking for a new phone by now so I can say it really is great. Battery life is better than my S9 with a Mophie pack so far. Even with playing with it constantly I can't kill it in one day and usually my S9 needs to be plugged in by late afternoon. I have not rooted it yet, and may not. I love a clean version of Android. Not sure why people think that is bad. All the random customization sometimes comes with a speed cost. This phone is just plain fast. Usually I root to get rid of crap so you can see where I stand. If you hate big heavy phones, don't buy it. That is the negative. I had a ZTE Axon 7 and updates were slow so that's another negative. Other than that, super fast, great screen, great battery, strong data signal...it's a buy. Reminds me of the original OnePlus, or the Axon. Phones that were surprising values, but were big and heavy.
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I'm coming from the OnePlus 3(T) as well, looking for a new device. What I didn't like at the Oneplus were the original ROM (luckily Lineage helped a lot) and the sound and position of the speaker. I loved the front facing stereo speakers of my HTC One (m7) years ago.
So I'm thinking of purchasing the RM3, but at the moment there are no alternative ROMS. Another device I'm looking at is the Black Shark 2, but situation with ROMs and support seems to be even worse.
For the RM3, I have concerns, if a fan inside a mobile will really last for some years, or break down at some time...
I also had the 3T and 1 and the 6T obviously this is just a better phone due to the increases in tech. No way to tell on the fan, I will say...and not sure how ZTE vs it's company Nubia will work, but my Axon 7 had a couple of screen issues due to my dropping it and the speaker stopped working, not sure if it was due to that and ZTE fixed it every time free of charge within the first year. I was very happy with their service on that phone. ROM support will be lacking but it's a clean version of Android so I prefer that
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To me...a clean, lean ROM, which the US version is, rooted with Magisk and other mods I choose myself is always the best option. Some custom ROMs can get pretty bloated themselves
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NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Considering the price and the specs, I think the Red Magic 3 is about the best phone you can have nowadays.
If you buy it, you should consider two things :
- Chinese UI has a lot of features but is ugly and themes are mostly paid ones ;
- Europe/US/Asia ROM has ZERO features.
Once I recovered from the disappointment, the second solution was clearly what I was looking for.
So here is my advice :
- take the Europe/US/Asia version and flash it to your device (if it doesn't ship with that as stock)
- unlock the bootloader
-root your phone.
All this is done in like 4/5 minutes...
Once done, install all apps to add the required features.
You will have a phone that has ONLY THE FEATURES YOU WANT.
No bloat, no unnecessary stuff...
A dream come true
Of course, it comes with a price : once rooted, you will get OTA notifications but won't be able to install them...
Regards.
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It depends on what you are looking for an what you want to do?
If you are a person who is happy with stock ROMs an just leaves cellphones in the state they are in out of the box then yes buy it.
However if you are a person who likes tinkering modifications an custom ROMs the please do not buy this cellphone.
I tried to install TWRP over 2 months ago an got stuck in a fastboot bootloop. Every xda suggestion to fix this plus paying a cellphone repair center an trying heaps of suggestions an it's still non functional.
It has horrible software an is rediculously sensitive to any and all attempts to FLASH ANYTHING.
If red magic 3s break you might never be able to fix them at a software level.
Mine lives in a bag by my bed to remind me not to bite off more than I can chew.
I have a xiaomi Mi9 now an have no real issues with it.
Good luck with your decision
So the options are to buy on Ali are with a stock Global Rom or a Chinese ROM. I see some other posts about people flashing to the Chinese one. Is that the best option to choose? I take it you can still select the language as English and support here etc? Thanks for everyone's responded it's been really helpful. I was thinking of holding out for the 855plus but not sure if I can afford which will be most likely an additional cost for it.
I also have the same question but mine is a bit different. Im convinced i am going to buy it but...
Should i buy it now or wait for the 855+ version? Idc if its gonna be a bit more expensive
xorphaz said:
I also have the same question but mine is a bit different. Im convinced i am going to buy it but...
Should i buy it now or wait for the 855+ version? Idc if its gonna be a bit more expensive
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I would of thought it would be more expensive as they still have the original to sell. Probably will stick another £100 on it or so I reckon ?