Google responds to Huawei users sideloading apps - Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion

https://support.google.com/android/thread/29434011
Thank you, Trump! Very cool!

Well we all have the P20 Pro at this forum, so this doesn't concern us.

arty_a said:
Well we all have the P20 Pro at this forum, so this doesn't concern us.
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You never know if Trump makes a decision that pushes Google to remove gapps on existing huawei phones.

The Restless Soul said:
You never know if Trump makes a decision that pushes Google to remove gapps on existing huawei phones.
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That is practically impossible.
1) I'm not sure any Google apps have the technical ability to be completely removed remotely (unless using some very nasty and very secret backdoor).
2) At this point, the only thing that prevents Google from working with Huawei in the trade ban, which has no power over past events/deals/devices, and only enforced from a certain date onward.

arty_a said:
That is practically impossible.
1) I'm not sure any Google apps have the technical ability to be completely removed remotely (unless using some very nasty and very secret backdoor).
2) At this point, the only thing that prevents Google from working with Huawei in the trade ban, which has no power over past events/deals/devices, and only enforced from a certain date onward.
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I mean, they can be remotely deactivated by removing the licenses for the current huawei phones. Besides, apparently HMS will be a big deal for Google so let's see what happens.

The Restless Soul said:
You never know if Trump makes a decision that pushes Google to remove gapps on existing huawei phones.
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I don't think they can can they?
I have Google apps on my fire TV which aren't approved, so not sure.
Maybe if they can identify the device they could..
So glad my contract is up, I'm literally waiting for the 1+8

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Look at the letter I got regarding Google Wallet

Not sure if this is something that has been posted in this forum before, but I got a letter from Verizon regarding my FCC complaint about Google Wallet.
Thought it was worth sharing...
This is just utter bs.. Makes me sick to be a Verizon customer. So according to them they don't block Google Wallet, but then they go on to explain that any app that integrates with the secure element will be blocked.. So why diddnt they just say that in the first place? I'm sure this is just an excuse for them to force us to use their ****ty take on wallet, and you can be damn sure their app integrates with the secure element, hypocrits. How is it that every other carrier has it available and we don't? So it sounds like if we want official Google Wallet for our devices without editing the build prop, Google will have to release a device under Verizon with it preinstalled. Wow, just wow.
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This is just utter bs.. Makes me sick to be a Verizon customer. So according to them they don't block Google Wallet, but then they go on to explain that any app that integrates with the secure element will be blocked.. So why diddnt they just say that in the first place? I'm sure this is just an excuse for them to force us to use their ****ty take on wallet, and you can be damn sure their app integrates with the secure element, hypocrits. How is it that every other carrier has it available and we don't? So it sounds like if we want official Google Wallet for our devices without editing the build prop, Google will have to release a device under Verizon with it preinstalled. Wow, just wow.
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Exactly. Also, if it's such a limitation, then why does it work on Sprint? Doesn't the Sprint S3 have the same internals as the Verizon S3?
You guys are crybabies. I just came from Sprint and if you think Verizon is so awful you should probably go tale a look elsewhere. We'll see ya when you come crawling back
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Shibby87 said:
This is just utter bs.. Makes me sick to be a Verizon customer. So according to them they don't block Google Wallet, but then they go on to explain that any app that integrates with the secure element will be blocked.. So why diddnt they just say that in the first place? I'm sure this is just an excuse for them to force us to use their ****ty take on wallet, and you can be damn sure their app integrates with the secure element, hypocrits. How is it that every other carrier has it available and we don't? So it sounds like if we want official Google Wallet for our devices without editing the build prop, Google will have to release a device under Verizon with it preinstalled. Wow, just wow.
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Wow I must be out of the loop but please tell me besides sprint what carriers officially support Google Wallet?
I believe Verizon has stated that they won't provide ISIS access to Nexus devices either as they are not certified for their BLAH BLAH security reasons BLAH. I do believe Google is tinkering on a work around for this stuff. At least they didn't go to the effort of disabling NFC entirely like other carriers have.
Gordon Ramsay said:
You guys are crybabies. I just came from Sprint and if you think Verizon is so awful you should probably go tale a look elsewhere. We'll see ya when you come crawling back
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Not about being a cry baby, just wrong, how we're restricted
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Wow, this is kinda messed up. Hopefully google can find a way around this, the carriers definitely have too much control over android to be able to have limitations like this in place.
Would be nice if google had full control over the android ecosystem, especially for things like updates, but thankfully we can root and use custom roms to get around the updates issue (especially us VZ users since they're always last to push updates).
Chris123NT said:
Wow, this is kinda messed up. Hopefully google can find a way around this, the carriers definitely have too much control over android to be able to have limitations like this in place.
Would be nice if google had full control over the android ecosystem, especially for things like updates, but thankfully we can root and use custom roms to get around the updates issue (especially us VZ users since they're always last to push updates).
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Yeah Google is finding a way around this. In about a year they'll have a big workaround with a little help from dish network hopefully Make sure to start selling any stock you have in the big telcos right now.
sbell7105 said:
Wow I must be out of the loop but please tell me besides sprint what carriers officially support Google Wallet?
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Us cellular does.
meh I dont need wallet anyways...im still quite capable of pulling cash or plastic out of my pocket to pay.
Imatoasta said:
Yeah Google is finding a way around this. In about a year they'll have a big workaround with a little help from dish network hopefully Make sure to start selling any stock you have in the big telcos right now.
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Dish Network? The red-headed stepchild of the content provider industry? Are you seriously looking for Dish to solve anything here? Dish helping Google makes as much sense as TomTom helping Apple with their maps... and we all know how smoothly THAT'S going.
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Dish Network? The red-headed stepchild of the content provider industry? Are you seriously looking for Dish to solve anything here? Dish helping Google makes as much sense as TomTom helping Apple with their maps... and we all know how smoothly THAT'S going.
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Yes, the red headed step child with tons of wireless spectrum. It'll either be them or T-Mobile.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/2...orts-dish-networks-plan-for-a-mobile-network/
Send to Google
Send this letter to Google and see if they will respond to it in any way.
Droid life picked up on this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/1...ys-google-needs-to-change-the-app/#more-91621
bobAbooE said:
Droid life picked up on this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/1...ys-google-needs-to-change-the-app/#more-91621
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So has The Verge.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/10/3751538/verizon-google-wallet-galaxy-nexus-secure-element
ibm9001 said:
So has The Verge.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/10/3751538/verizon-google-wallet-galaxy-nexus-secure-element
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I received a very similar letter from Verizon from a person named Fred Powell. I sent a letter directly to the FCC responding to his BS about the secure element. I haven't heard back yet.
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Greg Tolan said:
I received a very similar letter from Verizon from a person named Fred Powell. I sent a letter directly to the FCC responding to his BS about the secure element. I haven't heard back yet.
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this person who responded must have read my letter because I explicity destroyed them on the fact that other mcommerce apps can be used but not wallet so their argument is bunk. Google updated walled to be used not in the secure element in late July I believe. I'll find my letter when i go home. Eff Verizon.
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Yes, the red headed step child with tons of wireless spectrum. It'll either be them or T-Mobile.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/2...orts-dish-networks-plan-for-a-mobile-network/
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I'd be ecstatic if Tmobile went into a partnership with Google. Insta drop Big Red. My magenta coverage is great in Baltimore.
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FYI, I dropped the story to Droid-Life thanks to you guys (ItsASamsung is my alternate usertag). I like the way phonearena put it best.
So, the official reason why Verizon isn't allowing Google Wallet is because it requires interaction with a "secure element" (aka NFC-chip), and that secure element isn't available on all Verizon handsets. Following this logic, Verizon will have to be careful when Isis is launched on the network (currently it is only testing on T-Mobile), and not allow users who haven't purchased NFC-enabled SIM cards to download and install Isis, or else the company would look quite hypocritical.
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open1your1eyes0 said:
FYI, I dropped the story to Droid-Life thanks to you guys (ItsASamsung is my alternate usertag). I like the way phonearena put it best.
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This is what I was thinking when I saw this on the verge. So ISIS does not use a secure element?

Who is Nokia?

https://medium.com/@roundedeverett/who-is-nokia-cb24ecbc52a9
Very interesting article (and related links in it) about how shady and deep could be the world behind the brand Nokia (or what it was).
As Nokia consumer, aficionado to the actual Brand, I'm feeling a little betrayed. Yesterday I spent the whole evening uninstalling through ADB all the Evenwell apps, but in my mind it's not the same as it was.
You guys have any thoughts?
Really scary stuff in this article... But how on earth Google allows Nokia to have their phones with Androidone label?
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azizmulhim said:
Really scary stuff in this article... But how on earth Google allows Nokia to have their phones with Androidone label?
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does Google really know?
What’s new!! Most phone manufacturers do things with their phones, if its not their own skin on top of Android it is make no them look faster than they are when using benchmarks or if of Chinese origin then possible spyware to monitor usage etc.
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What’s new!! Most phone manufacturers do things with their phones, if its not their own skin on top of Android it is make no them look faster than they are when using benchmarks or if of Chinese origin then possible spyware to monitor usage etc.
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yeah, of course, but I feel like it's slightly less "legit" than some offboard-crappy-chinese brand. It's not Cubot, UMIDIGI, or Chuwi, I mean, we're talking about Nokia, it has heritage.
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yeah, of course, but I feel like it's slightly less "legit" than some offboard-crappy-chinese brand. It's not Cubot, UMIDIGI, or Chuwi, I mean, we're talking about Nokia, it has heritage.
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Yes, but then Foxcon makes the innards, so Chinese are involved.
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I read that article yesterday. It confirmed what I had suspected all along. I had a nice chat in a telegram group about this. I'll post my side of conversation here, they contain my opinions. I'm sorry I'd love to type all that but it's very late here and I'm already getting a bit of headache [emoji14]
TL;DR - Google needs to look into this and also clarify how much "freedom" OEMs get to play in the Androidone ecosystem. And HMD should have their own software division as it'll also help people directly connect through their forums.
Gravemind2015:
Well it needs to be said now, more than ever. I had my suspicions from day one, and now it's clear that 2 of their 3 promises are based on thin air.
As evenwell isn't part of either AOSP or androidone, the "pure" tag deserves to be used on pixel phones more than HMD phones.
And, as the company evenwell, if it even is a company, or rather a division inside FIH to handle software; is shady enough. Even the MIUI and other Chinese ROMs have clear development divisions inside their company and the software are at least handled by the phone company themselves.
Another interesting thing to note is if FIH makes the hardware and ships the software, what is the role of HMD in the making of phones? Only designing sketches I guess. They're more interested in selling the stuff, rather than making it. This is what makes the key difference between HMD and Nokia. Nokia made the phones, innovative or not. HMD is just selling customized generic phones, although the hardware has quality.
I know it might hurt to read this, and I'm aware as I've two Nokia smartphones in my house too, but the sad truth is they are not what they advertise they are, people buy the phones thinking they are Nokia, we buy phones thinking they are HMD consisting of people who worked at Nokia, but they are just like every other phone that was built by a single manufacturing company.
Although the hardware manufacturing is understandable as the company is relatively new and is building a sustainable business before diving into a DYI approach, the least they could have done is to invest in an in-house software development division to handle the software component.
Another interesting thing to look here is the role of Google and to know if addition of core system level applications as well as usage of substitute system apps in place of the AOSP/Google implementation are allowed in phones under the Androidone program; and if so, the definition of "pure" android that Google true to relate it's Androidone term to. If androidone is advertised at is best and Android as how Google sees it; then maybe they consider evenwell a part of androidone, and maybe consider that FIH division to be very good and competent. I doubt if Google actually admits to it, but the statements I told here in the previous sentence are the common sentences being used to describe androidone; at least in Nokia events."
Another thing to add: If they really can't have their own software team, they can at least ensure transparency and Google should check the Android software and block the usage of the power.g3 sort of applications at minimum. And give public a clear and easy to understand definition of androidone, what the OEMs have freedom to choose from etc.
And one benefit of HMD having their own software division would be that they could directly connect and take feedback from the users and then work on them. They've got their own forum, they've got Twitter too. Am in-house division would help them supervise on the "secure" part too.
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taldeital said:
https://medium.com/@roundedeverett/who-is-nokia-cb24ecbc52a9
Very interesting article (and related links in it) about how shady and deep could be the world behind the brand Nokia (or what it was).
As Nokia consumer, aficionado to the actual Brand, I'm feeling a little betrayed. Yesterday I spent the whole evening uninstalling through ADB all the Evenwell apps, but in my mind it's not the same as it was.
You guys have any thoughts?
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thanks for the info.
have you noticed any weird behaviour after removing the evenwell packages? Would you be interested in creating a guide on how to remove them?
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thanks for the info.
have you noticed any weird behaviour after removing the evenwell packages? Would you be interested in creating a guide on how to remove them?
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so far, no weird behaviour. I just lost two VPNs but I already set them up again, so no trouble.
I used this guide: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/ to uninstall most of the Evenwell packages, g3powersomething among them.
a Nokia 2 user (@jcd000) did a great job naming all the shady packages safe to be uninstalled: https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/nokia-2-apps-safe-to-delete-t3783158
there are also several Google packages among them, just use your rule of thumb to know what do you actually need and what not, using descriptions of the packages.
If you think a whole comprehensive guide would be useful, I'll write it, no problem.
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thanks for the info.
have you noticed any weird behaviour after removing the evenwell packages? Would you be interested in creating a guide on how to remove them?
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probably somebody more experienced than me could write a batch with adb commands to batch uninstall all the packages in once!
I could probably do it too, but it'll take a couple of months :laugh:
in the meantime, nobody answers from HMD/Nokia HQ: https://twitter.com/taldeital/status/1090322409704603649
I tried to stimulate a conversation or at least I was looking for some answer, plausible or not.
I was able to disable a lot of apps from evenwell in Android Pie 9.0.
So far I do not see any impact on my phone.
same here, after few days everything smooth.
device seems also less laggy.
Well that's an interesting article.. I just disabled like 16 evenwell apps and left 12 enabled.. let see if anything change
I am running the phone with all the evenwell apps disabled. There is slightly higher drain in idle, but the notifications arrive properly...
From the performance and functionality, nothing is impacted...

No more android updates for huawei phones?

Just read news on all major tech sites.
Google stopped all services with huawei.
www.androidcentral.com/huawei-losing-access-android-updates-google-support-after-trump-trade-ban
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Just read the same on Huawei Central site. Not very impressed with this and the future of my device.
I read it but I cannot believe it. I am sure we will be able to turn around this.
Honestly they might develop their own software. If they do, imagine how much they can do with the kirin processors.
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After reading the article, it is clear that we will get updates, however the google services stuff will stop on HUAWEI phones.
So that means we will have to use Huawei appgallery store, which looks neat but has less apps than Google play store.
Well, **** Trump i guess.
I think this is the best time to ask Huawei to unlock the bootloaders again. With the unlocked bootloaders, we will be able to root and flash roms and google apps as we want. Huawei still sell the hardware. That will be a win-win situation
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I think this is the best time to ask Huawei to unlock the bootloaders again. With the unlocked bootloaders, we will be able to root and flash roms and google apps as we want. Huawei still sell the hardware. That will be a win-win situation
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That's what's stopping me buying a P30 Pro. We're impressed with the P20 Pro but the bootloader thing is a problem.
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I think this is the best time to ask Huawei to unlock the bootloaders again. With the unlocked bootloaders, we will be able to root and flash roms and google apps as we want. Huawei still sell the hardware. That will be a win-win situation
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Do you think they ever tried to listen to customers?
They only see their own interest.
There is no platform where developers can suggest them
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I just hope they make their own software ( EMUI OS?) that almost behaves like IOS.
Custom roms are not optimized for kirin cpu anyway. Imo
you know how to read but you did not even read about which huawei phones is really affected only. it only affects future phones the current ones and old ones will still get access to google updates services and apps end of story.
xnostra said:
you know how to read but you did not even read about which huawei phones is really affected only. it only affects future phones the current ones and old ones will still get access to google updates services and apps end of story.
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No. "Existing customers won’t be affected, though without Google resuming business with Huawei, they also won’t get any further Android OS updates."
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/20/18632266/huawei-android-google-ban-phone-business-future
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No. "Existing customers won’t be affected, though without Google resuming business with Huawei, they also won’t get any further Android OS updates."
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/20/18632266/huawei-android-google-ban-phone-business-future
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2020 trump presidential is finish for sure huawei will be allowed to get back again, just research for zte ban before.
spiderx_mm said:
I think this is the best time to ask Huawei to unlock the bootloaders again. With the unlocked bootloaders, we will be able to root and flash roms and google apps as we want. Huawei still sell the hardware. That will be a win-win situation
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Not really a win-win if you use google pay.
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2020 trump presidential is finish for sure huawei will be allowed to get back again, just research for zte ban before.
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Imagine Huawei's os with Google play store. Absolutely formidable

Having a moan at Huawei

Just spotted this article on xda and it just made me feel numb about this phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/andr...-g-2015-sony-xperia-z3-compact-htc-10-one-m8/
The HTC M8 and HTC 10 just got Android 10!!
I've bought bogey phones before that I didn't like, the z1, note 4, Evo 3D, and I made do with what was available which want a lot, but the p20 pro takes top prize for the saga that is the bootloader codes and the anti Dev scene that is there p20 pro section of xda.
I got my bootloader unlock code day one, then I didn't write it down (my mistake) then I flashed a service firmware and it relocked, Huawei won't give me my original code. They didn't understand that they had already given me it?? Just needed to resend the same one lol. So crap.
Being used to HTC, OnePlus and Nexus devices, even Sammy, they all had thriving communities, and even though the pro is a beast with all the right hardware and components to develop for, Huawei just makes everything hard, borderline impossible in certain circumstances.
They've now made their own file system and compiler.
Compilers called ark I think, not sure what this will mean for after market development but it probably won't be good.
After hearing of a sort of partnership between xda and Huawei, I kind of committed with that in mind and the reviews I'd read about the camera (all I wanted was OIS really)
Camera is brilliant, just didn't expect the crap that happened afterwards.
Sorry for the moan, I am getting old
Would you buy another Huawei knowing how impossible it'll be to root and install your favourite custom ROM?
Personally I wouldn't, the ads are unblockable pretty much, removing device bloat is a ballache and updates are so splintered between the plethora of models Huawei decided to make some people are still on Oreo?
Such a shame, the device has a tonne of potential, ruined by a company that doesn't understand the essence of Android.
Ah well, OnePlus from here on in.
Blame Trump for putting pressure with the Android crap. Google is slowly removing safetynet on many huawei phones so pretty much we can't do anything.
P20 pro is a great device but bad managed by the software itself. I never had ads on my phone and, i agree, it's sad to see that Huawei had to lock almost everything just to prove that they are not a insecure company.
**** Trump, period.
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Blame Trump for putting pressure with the Android crap. Google is slowly removing safetynet on many huawei phones so pretty much we can't do anything.
P20 pro is a great device but bad managed by the software itself. I never had ads on my phone and, i agree, it's sad to see that Huawei had to lock almost everything just to prove that they are not a insecure company.
**** Trump, period.
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You have ads on websites though, no avoiding that besides the likes of adclear which uses a VPN and murders the battery.
Trump just wanted to tap them for some money.
The bootloader codes were before him banning them.
dladz said:
You have ads on websites though, no avoiding that besides the likes of adclear which uses a VPN and murders the battery.
Trump just wanted to tap them for some money.
The bootloader codes were before him banning them.
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I mean, the ads can be removed by using Brave browser, since it is the same as Chrome but has adblocking.
The bootloader code fiasco happened because of 2 reasons :
1.Huawei was getting smack because of the xda noobs bricking their phones and then complaining how their phones are crap
2.Trump because he kept putting pressure on Huawei after the mate 10 fiasco.
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I mean, the ads can be removed by using Brave browser, since it is the same as Chrome but has adblocking.
The bootloader code fiasco happened because of 2 reasons :
1.Huawei was getting smack because of the xda noobs bricking their phones and then complaining how their phones are crap
2.Trump because he kept putting pressure on Huawei after the mate 10 fiasco.
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I think the bootloader is much deeper rooted than that..
The volume of broken phones is just not high enough.. I think they hit a target of expected sales and then decided it was enough to take the hit..
Neither of us could be 100% it's speculation.
Either way, it's a sh*tshow and they can whistle if they think they'll get a penny from me again.
HTC have been doing the same thing for years with one blip when they had the one X.
@dladz
For me it's not HUAWEI's fault if you were stupid for not noticing your code.
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@dladz
For me it's not HUAWEI's fault if you were stupid for not noticing your code.
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In all the phones I've ever had I've never had a relock.
Don't call me things you wouldn't say to my face ok?
The Restless Soul said:
I mean, the ads can be removed by using Brave browser, since it is the same as Chrome but has adblocking.
The bootloader code fiasco happened because of 2 reasons :
1.Huawei was getting smack because of the xda noobs bricking their phones and then complaining how their phones are crap
2.Trump because he kept putting pressure on Huawei after the mate 10 fiasco.
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Will give it a shot. Cheers for that.
Don't be a cry-baby. if you want customization, go for OnePlus. I bought P20 Pro because of the Leica Optics, and I enjoyed the camera a lot. And I don't mind having Android 10 early or late. Pie is still decent and recent enough to use as daily driver.
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Don't be a cry-baby. if you want customization, go for OnePlus. I bought P20 Pro because of the Leica Optics, and I enjoyed the camera a lot. And I don't mind having Android 10 early or late. Pie is still decent and recent enough to use as daily driver.
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You don't agree with any of the points?
Why bother commenting here.
Please don't.
spiderx_mm said:
Don't be a cry-baby. if you want customization, go for OnePlus. I bought P20 Pro because of the Leica Optics, and I enjoyed the camera a lot. And I don't mind having Android 10 early or late. Pie is still decent and recent enough to use as daily driver.
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P20 pro offers plenty of customization options too, but people don't bother using them anyway
The Restless Soul said:
P20 pro offers plenty of customization options too, but people don't bother using them anyway
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Nah I know, just could have been so much more
The Restless Soul said:
P20 pro offers plenty of customization options too, but people don't bother using them anyway
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Not enough
Enter the private DNS section in the phone settings and add "dns.adguard.com" and you're ad-free. No app needed with Android 9.
Slow updates is and will always be an issue, but as long as we get our security patches, we should be fine. I was a heavy modification user back then too, but switching to Huawei I did not even tried to unlock my bootloader. Sure you miss some freedom and control over your device, for which you paid hundreds of euros, but for the future it's the user's choice, which phone to select when buying a new phone. Google Pixel oder OnePlus is much more user friendly I guess and should be considered over Huawei, if you want to modificate your device. With the latest disagreements with Trumps China politics, maybe Huawei will create an open source alternative with more control for the user.
Id just love regular updates. I know EE are to blame too but it took from January to June for the .168 update.
We've now had nothing for 2 months.
My first and last Huawei.
dladz said:
You don't agree with any of the points?
Why bother commenting here.
Please don't.
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Why bother creating a topic when you clearly only want to hear one point of view?
Hamza5682 said:
Why bother creating a topic when you clearly only want to hear one point of view?
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Similar thinking would have been more the aim.
Plus I'm old, I can moan as much as I like. This thread for the p20 is so dead all you guys can do is bash me.
If you've got nothing to add then don't add it.
dladz said:
You have ads on websites though, no avoiding that besides the likes of adclear which uses a VPN and murders the battery.
Trump just wanted to tap them for some money.
The bootloader codes were before him banning them.
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I agree with most of what you said, even those dooshes approx 1k miles to the east of China have in place an option to bootloader unlock( none of the code bull****) unless one buys an American version of their devices (Samsoog ).
WhyWowee emui is pretty ****e., Now with their global locked bootloader policy one is limited to their weak app gallery or theme store for customisation since development is now dead on here. Even the Huawei forums on here are a ghost town.
In regards to ads, I don't get ads using Samsung browser and adblock. Maybe you should try that.
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Limeybastard said:
I agree with most of what you said, even those dooshes approx 1k miles to the east of China have in place an option to bootloader unlock( none of the code bull****) unless one buys an American version of their devices (Samsoog ).
WhyWowee emui is pretty ****e., Now with their global locked bootloader policy one is limited to their weak app gallery or theme store for customisation since development is now dead on here. Even the Huawei forums on here are a ghost town.
In regards to ads, I don't get ads using Samsung browser and adblock. Maybe you should try that.
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Been using adguard. It's been great up til now .
Limeybastard said:
I agree with most of what you said, even those dooshes approx 1k miles to the east of China have in place an option to bootloader unlock( none of the code bull****) unless one buys an American version of their devices (Samsoog ).
WhyWowee emui is pretty ****e., Now with their global locked bootloader policy one is limited to their weak app gallery or theme store for customisation since development is now dead on here. Even the Huawei forums on here are a ghost town.
In regards to ads, I don't get ads using Samsung browser and adblock. Maybe you should try that.
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Blame the annoying orange for going full crybaby and blame Huawei for the security risks that weren't proven yet. They locked their bootloader for security purposes and yet they are still blocked. Thanks US!

Banking apps question.

Hi guys.
I keep seeing recurring themes on social media of people saying that they cannot get any banking apps over, banking apps not working.
Do people know what the issue is with this as my apps phone cloned over? I also just update them through Aurora store; Which just seems like a clone of play store.
Anyone else had these issue, or is it just the Huawei haters that would never even get a Huawei device poking there nose in?
dw9075n said:
Hi guys.
I keep seeing recurring themes on social media of people saying that they cannot get any banking apps over, banking apps not working.
Do people know what the issue is with this as my apps phone cloned over? I also just update them through Aurora store; Which just seems like a clone of play store.
Anyone else had these issue, or is it just the Huawei haters that would never even get a Huawei device poking there nose in?
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Totally agree with you on this one I see so many negative comments but none are true especially as I am comfortable using a P40 Pro with access to Halifax, Barclays and Tesco Bank and 2 of those were Phone Cloned over with no issues a month in, would be a solid suggestion if Huawei went public with this as it could be make or break for a potential customer.
Me too, used clone and then aurora, no problems. Use Lloyds with no probs too. Well happy.
Most likely trolls spreading false information. I was using a banking app that wasn't on the Huawei App Gallery without any issues at all. It was recently added to the App Gallery, so that's even better I guess.
jericho246 said:
Most likely trolls spreading false information. I was using a banking app that wasn't on the Huawei App Gallery without any issues at all. It was recently added to the App Gallery, so that's even better I guess.
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I agree with you, its people spreading misinformation. They are likely people that wouldn't even buy Huawei as they are probably wrapped up in an overprices phone that will have all the features of Huawei devices 3 years later.
Tech_Droid1 said:
Totally agree with you on this one I see so many negative comments but none are true especially as I am comfortable using a P40 Pro with access to Halifax, Barclays and Tesco Bank and 2 of those were Phone Cloned over with no issues a month in, would be a solid suggestion if Huawei went public with this as it could be make or break for a potential customer.
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The issue i feel is that people see Huawei as "bad guys" due to certain people not being a fan of the company. Purely on the fact that they do things better than most.
jericho246 said:
Most likely trolls spreading false information. I was using a banking app that wasn't on the Huawei App Gallery without any issues at all. It was recently added to the App Gallery, so that's even better I guess.
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ooo What bank was this? maybe useful for me, Im on the cusp of leaving barclays as currently its not supported.
Sathelp said:
Me too, used clone and then aurora, no problems. Use Lloyds with no probs too. Well happy.
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Using Aurora for the updates I presume?
Yes for as many as i can
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ooo What bank was this? maybe useful for me, Im on the cusp of leaving barclays as currently its not supported.
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Ah, it's a national bank in France
The Barclays app doesn't work at all?
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Ah, it's a national bank in France
The Barclays app doesn't work at all?
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currently at the minute no - however I got in touch with them via facebook and they got back in touch to my surprise and they said they were going to pass it to the right department. If it doesn't work I will have to switch banks - for now im using the web browser as a solution.
dw9075n said:
The issue i feel is that people see Huawei as "bad guys" due to certain people not being a fan of the company. Purely on the fact that they do things better than most.
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This is exactly the problem, the far East is a highly motivated and developed country with the resources to help globalisation not break it but the media portrays it in a different way I suppose.
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This is exactly the problem, the far East is a highly motivated and developed country with the resources to help globalisation not break it but the media portrays it in a different way I suppose.
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the western media tbf is very 'shhhhh' misleading. I think if they had given a bigger picture & then be more informative I think the message would be clearer. Had I not known by actually researching into Huawei , I would have thought that all Huawei products would have been withdrawn off the UK market - However that's not the case , its just infrastructure not handsets/tablets.
dw9075n said:
Hi guys.
I keep seeing recurring themes on social media of people saying that they cannot get any banking apps over, banking apps not working.
Do people know what the issue is with this as my apps phone cloned over? I also just update them through Aurora store; Which just seems like a clone of play store.
Anyone else had these issue, or is it just the Huawei haters that would never even get a Huawei device poking there nose in?
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I use Halifax, No issues. just phone cloned and jobs done.

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