No more android updates for huawei phones? - Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion

Just read news on all major tech sites.
Google stopped all services with huawei.
www.androidcentral.com/huawei-losing-access-android-updates-google-support-after-trump-trade-ban
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Just read the same on Huawei Central site. Not very impressed with this and the future of my device.

I read it but I cannot believe it. I am sure we will be able to turn around this.

Honestly they might develop their own software. If they do, imagine how much they can do with the kirin processors.
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After reading the article, it is clear that we will get updates, however the google services stuff will stop on HUAWEI phones.
So that means we will have to use Huawei appgallery store, which looks neat but has less apps than Google play store.
Well, **** Trump i guess.

I think this is the best time to ask Huawei to unlock the bootloaders again. With the unlocked bootloaders, we will be able to root and flash roms and google apps as we want. Huawei still sell the hardware. That will be a win-win situation

spiderx_mm said:
I think this is the best time to ask Huawei to unlock the bootloaders again. With the unlocked bootloaders, we will be able to root and flash roms and google apps as we want. Huawei still sell the hardware. That will be a win-win situation
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That's what's stopping me buying a P30 Pro. We're impressed with the P20 Pro but the bootloader thing is a problem.

spiderx_mm said:
I think this is the best time to ask Huawei to unlock the bootloaders again. With the unlocked bootloaders, we will be able to root and flash roms and google apps as we want. Huawei still sell the hardware. That will be a win-win situation
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Do you think they ever tried to listen to customers?
They only see their own interest.
There is no platform where developers can suggest them
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I just hope they make their own software ( EMUI OS?) that almost behaves like IOS.
Custom roms are not optimized for kirin cpu anyway. Imo

you know how to read but you did not even read about which huawei phones is really affected only. it only affects future phones the current ones and old ones will still get access to google updates services and apps end of story.

xnostra said:
you know how to read but you did not even read about which huawei phones is really affected only. it only affects future phones the current ones and old ones will still get access to google updates services and apps end of story.
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No. "Existing customers won’t be affected, though without Google resuming business with Huawei, they also won’t get any further Android OS updates."
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/20/18632266/huawei-android-google-ban-phone-business-future

idefix3500 said:
No. "Existing customers won’t be affected, though without Google resuming business with Huawei, they also won’t get any further Android OS updates."
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/20/18632266/huawei-android-google-ban-phone-business-future
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2020 trump presidential is finish for sure huawei will be allowed to get back again, just research for zte ban before.

spiderx_mm said:
I think this is the best time to ask Huawei to unlock the bootloaders again. With the unlocked bootloaders, we will be able to root and flash roms and google apps as we want. Huawei still sell the hardware. That will be a win-win situation
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Not really a win-win if you use google pay.

xnostra said:
2020 trump presidential is finish for sure huawei will be allowed to get back again, just research for zte ban before.
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Imagine Huawei's os with Google play store. Absolutely formidable

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RIP Unlocking bootloader officially

https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Oh come on that's never an issue script and bypass by exploiting it
Thats huge NO NO, this is my first and last Huawei device. I love my p9 and was planning to get p20 pro but now... If they get out with this most of companies will follow imo
KinG5Pac said:
Thats huge NO NO, this is my first and last Huawei device. I love my p9 and was planning to get p20 pro but now... If they get out with this most of companies will follow imo
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Nuh i dont think so. And its not the first company who actually done it. And again its in their legal rights to do so., but as i said it very easy to exploit the bootloader without bootloader code and it will not make any difference customizing it. Back in my days we had to crack the CD to clone the game....and even today we crack the EXE to play pirate games. The same will happen with the devices. Samsung and Google already locked many devices and you was not able to get a bootloader code. That did not stop us though
KinG5Pac said:
Thats huge NO NO, this is my first and last Huawei device. I love my p9 and was planning to get p20 pro but now... If they get out with this most of companies will follow imo
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Same thing here. P9 was really great had it for two years and I was very satisfied. But no way am I going with the P20. It has terrible value... So expensive? Bad design choices...
I think most companies take a bad turn after they get too big. Same thing with Samsung. They made an almost perfect phone with the Galaxy S3 (at the time) for a great price. Then they kept releasing the same design but increased price every year and now they sell glass slates that break if you look at them wrong, that cost 1000$.
I just got an amazing deal on an LG G6 which already has Oreo. That will hopefully last me until this whole notch/no headphone-jack craze washes over!
clouds5 said:
I think most companies take a bad turn after they get too big. Same thing with Samsung.
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Its not about "getting to big". Look at it from company and market perspective. Some people here dont get it but modded devices take really small percentage of overall Android devices out there. We sit inside and read about that so we thing that everyone doing that but, most of android users dont even know what Android version they have, for them its just "Android Phone" + Brand name.
But for past year that number of custom roms and forcing updates that users do because they dont want to wait for official OTA grow and companies want to protect their names so there will be no situation like company is known that it have bad devices because people who mess with firmware cry about it all over the internet creating bad reputation.
Huawei was never perfect device for modding, and because Huawei is one of the biggest companies that aim for top they want to smooth their reputation by protecting their devices(no messing with bootloader = marketing advertising for "safe" device) and make users to use build in features and updates that they can control instead of messing with device to get it.
And yes, some people will cry that they will never get Huawei device again, or cry that its worst decision, but in reality those people are less than 0.5% of their worldwide user base. Some people will still mod those devices because they know-how, and stopping "easy way" to unlocking bootloader is not big deal, and Huawei devices are not alone here, there is lots of other devices and few companies that also block it and no one cry about it beside small number of people.
For me and probably for most of people it dont matter, Huawei devices are not bad compared to other companies, they work good, and for all normal people thats matter: that device work good. Today there is not much reason to mod devices, most of options that people need are build in, performance on even mid-range devices are good, no need to tinker under the hud like in old days to get device to work smooth. There are still many apps that need root and there are many roms that are really good, but most of people dont need that anymore, and only new users and people who are bored tinker with it... and for most of time screw their devices and then cry all over the internet that phone dont work...
vampirian said:
Oh come on that's never an issue script and bypass by exploiting it
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Sorry what do you mean?
Akinaro said:
Its not about "getting to big". Look at it from company and market perspective. Some people here dont get it but modded devices take really small percentage of overall Android devices out there. We sit inside and read about that so we thing that everyone doing that but, most of android users dont even know what Android version they have, for them its just "Android Phone" + Brand name.
But for past year that number of custom roms and forcing updates that users do because they dont want to wait for official OTA grow and companies want to protect their names so there will be no situation like company is known that it have bad devices because people who mess with firmware cry about it all over the internet creating bad reputation.
Huawei was never perfect device for modding, and because Huawei is one of the biggest companies that aim for top they want to smooth their reputation by protecting their devices(no messing with bootloader = marketing advertising for "safe" device) and make users to use build in features and updates that they can control instead of messing with device to get it.
And yes, some people will cry that they will never get Huawei device again, or cry that its worst decision, but in reality those people are less than 0.5% of their worldwide user base. Some people will still mod those devices because they know-how, and stopping "easy way" to unlocking bootloader is not big deal, and Huawei devices are not alone here, there is lots of other devices and few companies that also block it and no one cry about it beside small number of people.
For me and probably for most of people it dont matter, Huawei devices are not bad compared to other companies, they work good, and for all normal people thats matter: that device work good. Today there is not much reason to mod devices, most of options that people need are build in, performance on even mid-range devices are good, no need to tinker under the hud like in old days to get device to work smooth. There are still many apps that need root and there are many roms that are really good, but most of people dont need that anymore, and only new users and people who are bored tinker with it... and for most of time screw their devices and then cry all over the internet that phone dont work...
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Aww sorry for touching your feelings about huawei. -0.5% also money which is gone for sure btw not only p9 users heard about this news so do your calculations it's more than 0.5%, and most of people buy phones just asking these "tech-savvy (crying)" people's recommendation.
zwwel said:
Sorry what do you mean?
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not gonna sit and explain because it will look like a chinese alphabet to newcomers.
KinG5Pac said:
Aww sorry for touching your feelings about huawei. -0.5% also money which is gone for sure btw not only p9 users heard about this news so do your calculations it's more than 0.5%, and most of people buy phones just asking these "tech-savvy (crying)" people's recommendation.
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He is right though because the market is not targeting on "under the hood modders" but they do target on average Joes who gets a phone , takes a good picture, using messenger, call, play some android games yadda yadda.
I can tell you that its less than 0.5% worldwide and if that 0.5% needs 3-4 times to return the devices because they hardbrick their devices from custom firmwares, they will have to replace the device which is a cost and also they will gain bad reputation for having "sensitive" devices. I dont think you bought P9 for the under the hood customization. Did you? because most of us got it for the superior cameras tbh.
I do dislike the fact that bootloader is locked , however there is always a way to bypass bootloader and push TWRP. Ive done it already on P8 and P9 and i can not see where it would be a problem with newer devices.
If someone wants to push a custom firmware and have the knowledge to do it, then definitely he will have enough experience on searching for tools that can do this job. Legally, illegally it doesnt matter.
KinG5Pac said:
Aww sorry for touching your feelings about huawei. -0.5% also money which is gone for sure btw not only p9 users heard about this news so do your calculations it's more than 0.5%, and most of people buy phones just asking these "tech-savvy (crying)" people's recommendation.
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Touching my feelings? Grow up kid...
Huawei P9 is my first Huawei device, for past years I was using only Sony devices. I dont have any "feelings" to phone, because its just device, and it work as advertised.
I dont care how Huawei run its own company, I see other companies and overall market and its not different than others.
What I dont like are are people who behave like kid and cry about small things and get personal with any cont argument that they dont like. Open your eyes wider and look at this from wider perspective than your own nose, then maybe you will understand some things
Akinaro said:
Touching my feelings? Grow up kid...
Huawei P9 is my first Huawei device, for past years I was using only Sony devices. I dont have any "feelings" to phone, because its just device, and it work as advertised.
I dont care how Huawei run its own company, I see other companies and overall market and its not different than others.
What I dont like are are people who behave like kid and cry about small things and get personal with any cont argument that they dont like. Open your eyes wider and look at this from wider perspective than your own nose, then maybe you will understand some things
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There there, wipe your tears. Your logic make me wanna puke. Don't be angry about others opinions cos I really don't give a f about yours but i read it cos your asking "me" to grove up (really man?) thanks I'll do it, but still stop being asshhole.
Have good one! :victory:
KinG5Pac said:
There there, wipe your tears. Your logic make me wanna puke. Don't be angry about others opinions cos I really don't give a f about yours but i read it cos your asking "me" to grove up (really man?) thanks I'll do it, but still stop being asshhole.
Have good one! :victory:
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Keyboard warrior? He expressed his opinion and yes you have to grow up. Its a bloody device and not a girlfriend. I really notice that this forum is basically 13 years old mouthy kids. There you go if i change device is only for this reason. Till then im going to the russian community. At least they are developing things. They are not like here expressing clueless opinions, leeching and been demanding and insult other forum members, either act like kids who wants a lollipop. Here take your lollipop.
Byeeeee
vampirian said:
Keyboard warrior? He expressed his opinion and yes you have to grow up. Its a bloody device and not a girlfriend. I really notice that this forum is basically 13 years old mouthy kids. There you go if i change device is only for this reason. Till then im going to the russian community. At least they are developing things. They are not like here expressing clueless opinions, leeching and been demanding and insult other forum members, either act like kids who wants a lollipop. Here take your lollipop.
Byeeeee
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Why you even here? Anyways you still thinking unlocking bootloader is some scripting or something? There are still some HTC phones which are impossible to unlock and I remember some devs used beg Xiaomi to make kernel open source, LG bootloader aghh Sony's DRM after unlock... Anyways say hello to 4pda
У меня всё... :fingers-crossed:
KinG5Pac said:
Why you even here? Anyways you still thinking unlocking bootloader is some scripting or something? There are still some HTC phones which are impossible to unlock and I remember some devs used beg Xiaomi to make kernel open source, LG bootloader aghh Sony's DRM after unlock... Anyways say hello to 4pda
У меня всё... :fingers-crossed:
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are you one of those guyz?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...remony-prove-precious-phones-daily-lives.html
Bootloader=kernel?
you mixed up what is what.
Lesson one:
Android Bootloader
Every Android phone has a bootloader that instructs the operating system kernel to boot normally. But you need to understand one thing here that as Android OS is an open source OS and is available on a variety of different hardware, every manufacturer has their own version of bootloader specific for the hardware present in it’s environment. At its most basic level, your Android smartphone is like a hard drive, made of up several partitions. One of those partitions holds the Android system files, another holds all the app data you accumulate (which is how you’re usually able to update without losing all your stuff), and others to do more behind-the scenes stuff.
Lesson two
Why are Bootloaders Locked?
A bootloader is usually locked on an Android device because although it’s an open source OS, still the manufacturers want you to stick to their Android OS version specifically designed for the device. In order to apply this concept, manufacturers lock the bootloader. With a locked bootloader on Android devices, it is virtually impossible to flash a Custom ROM and forced attempts void warranty as well as usually end up in bricks. Therefore, the first step is to always unlock the bootloader.
Lesson 3:
Why keep a bootloader out of reach? One of the biggest reasons is that the carriers and manufacturers dont want to have to support hacked phones. The other is that a lot of time and money is spent developing these things.
Lesson 4
No company is obligated to release or to help you unlock your bootloader. You are allowed to hack it. But you have to respect the brick and return policies.
You can complain as much you want. If you want to play with fimrwares you can go buy an old samsung device.
The market is targeting the user and not the developer.
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vampirian said:
are you one of those guyz?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...remony-prove-precious-phones-daily-lives.html
Bootloader=kernel?
you mixed up what is what.
Lesson one:
Android Bootloader
Every Android phone has a bootloader that instructs the operating system kernel to boot normally. But you need to understand one thing here that as Android OS is an open source OS and is available on a variety of different hardware, every manufacturer has their own version of bootloader specific for the hardware present in it’s environment. At its most basic level, your Android smartphone is like a hard drive, made of up several partitions. One of those partitions holds the Android system files, another holds all the app data you accumulate (which is how you’re usually able to update without losing all your stuff), and others to do more behind-the scenes stuff.
Lesson two
Why are Bootloaders Locked?
A bootloader is usually locked on an Android device because although it’s an open source OS, still the manufacturers want you to stick to their Android OS version specifically designed for the device. In order to apply this concept, manufacturers lock the bootloader. With a locked bootloader on Android devices, it is virtually impossible to flash a Custom ROM and forced attempts void warranty as well as usually end up in bricks. Therefore, the first step is to always unlock the bootloader.
Lesson 3:
Why keep a bootloader out of reach? One of the biggest reasons is that the carriers and manufacturers dont want to have to support hacked phones. The other is that a lot of time and money is spent developing these things.
Lesson 4
No company is obligated to release or to help you unlock your bootloader. You are allowed to hack it. But you have to respect the brick and return policies.
You can complain as much you want. If you want to play with fimrwares you can go buy an old samsung device.
The market is targeting the user and not the developer.
ты говоришь дерьмо, и ты высокомерный
хорошего дня
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I'm not even comparing, im just giving you examples where companies are being just ignorant to devs. Why they should care about brick after unlocking bootloader? You make zero sense. Unlocked bootloader void warranty so back to the topic. If you still think removing to have an option is "good" then congratulations have fun.
update: I appreciate your time that you spent on research.
Any kind soul willing to help me unlock bootloader, i belive huawei stoped supporting the website to get the bootloader code.
i tried to search everything in the forum.
should i try any suspicious website that asks money to unlock?
Really apreciated!
nightgost said:
Any kind soul willing to help me unlock bootloader, i belive huawei stoped supporting the website to get the bootloader code.
i tried to search everything in the forum.
should i try any suspicious website that asks money to unlock?
Really apreciated!
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DC-Unlocker is the place to go: https://www.dc-unlocker.com/supported_models_1/huawei_phones
I think it costs 4 Euros. I've used this site and it's legit.
vampirian said:
Nuh i dont think so. And its not the first company who actually done it. And again its in their legal rights to do so., but as i said it very easy to exploit the bootloader without bootloader code and it will not make any difference customizing it. Back in my days we had to crack the CD to clone the game....and even today we crack the EXE to play pirate games. The same will happen with the devices. Samsung and Google already locked many devices and you was not able to get a bootloader code. That did not stop us though
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How to Do unlock process? kindly tell me..
5pd said:
How to Do unlock process? kindly tell me..
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Scroll up in this thread and you will find link to their website with instructions there:
https://www.dc-unlocker.com/how-to-read-huawei-bootloader-unlock-code
So my only option is to use DC-Unlocker right?

OEM / bootloader unlock , we gotta standup for our selves.

Brothers, we need to standup for ourselves and stop this ***** madness.
1. I've sent Huawei many emails, it obviously didn't help.
2. If we start like a mass petition or class action or some other case together, we might stand a chance. Remember we're not the only ones with locked bootloader. / Grayed out OEM unlock in developing settings. The mate 20 pro users and possibly other models have the same issue. We have to team up.
Perhaps we can make an email format here that we copy paste and send to hauwei each of us individually. They would be spammed with say 1 million emails.
3. We have paid allot for this device , an android device should be open and customizable. There is absolutely no valid reason to lock down an android device, unless you as smartphone brand try to protect your spyware .
Anyway are you with me brothers ? Let's get the full potential for the hardware that we paid for. Huawei needs to start offering the bootloader codes again and enable OEM unlock. Period. Other resolutions are not acceptable.
ilovepj said:
Brothers, we need to standup for ourselves and stop this ***** madness.
1. I've sent Huawei many emails, it obviously didn't help.
2. If we start like a mass petition or class action or some other case together, we might stand a chance. Remember we're not the only ones with locked bootloader. / Grayed out OEM unlock in developing settings. The mate 20 pro users and possibly other models have the same issue. We have to team up.
Perhaps we can make an email format here that we copy paste and send to hauwei each of us individually. They would be spammed with say 1 million emails.
3. We have paid allot for this device , an android device should be open and customizable. There is absolutely no valid reason to lock down an android device, unless you as smartphone brand try to protect your spyware .
Anyway are you with me brothers ? Let's get the full potential for the hardware that we paid for. Huawei needs to start offering the bootloader codes again and enable OEM unlock. Period. Other resolutions are not acceptable.
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I guess 99,5 % of the users don`t care about root. So it will most probably not happen. Nokia also will not provide help to unlock the bootloader as most other OEMS. Get a Samsung , Xiaomi, OnePlus or Pixel phone if you want root. You buy a phone as is, not how you want it to be.
I do not agree with your mindset. That's a typical beta give up mentality.. no offense.
Huawei used to provide the unlock service service before, and now suddenly it stopped doing so. It can't go without consequences..
I love the hardware and the big screen, there are no better alternatives at the moment.
That 99% of the people doesn't want root, it doesn't mean that the remaining 1% is wrong or need to be neglected. If 1% of the users team up we would have 200.000 plus supporters that can show their voice and that can make this happen.
I am in
Count me in too!! This insolence cannot go unpunished.
Not to play spoilsport but your suggestion would work if indeed a million people request for it. From what I understand, the Chinese version of the Huawei phones can be unlocked without issues. Only the international version has this issue. Considering that the majority of the phones sold would be Chinese (which is their main market) who are not affected and accounting for a minuscule part of the phones they sell for the global audience are that interested in rooting, getting them to do anything has a low probability. Having said that, if root is so critical for anyone, the Chinese version is always an option. Most of the issues are resolved related to the Chinese specific devices
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Guyz
if anybody wants to swap their L29 for mine Honor Note10 chinese can be fully rooted TWRPed .. I will swap
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So you think someone will swap k970 soc with k980?
SmartPhonesFan said:
Man wake up from your dream.. u are such enthusiast.. and few more in the world .. that is not even 0.5% of whole ppl in the world..
only u and another 50-100 ppl knows what is unlocking bootloader n sht and rooting.. the rest the world has no idea and can't be f**ked about these things.. they buy phone and just use it..
As I said in other thread .. Huawei Getting the best in smartphones so they cannot allow to have vulnerable devices ! They has to show maximum security !
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Agree
.172 enables the OEM unlock on the EVR L29 C636 model.
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.172 enables the OEM unlock on the EVR L29 C636 model.
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Hey brother could you be more specific, what do you mean with .172?
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Ah, you mean the new firmware, I run .146 , how to get the .172?
ilovepj said:
Brothers, we need to standup for ourselves and stop this ***** madness.
1. I've sent Huawei many emails, it obviously didn't help.
2. If we start like a mass petition or class action or some other case together, we might stand a chance. Remember we're not the only ones with locked bootloader. / Grayed out OEM unlock in developing settings. The mate 20 pro users and possibly other models have the same issue. We have to team up.
Perhaps we can make an email format here that we copy paste and send to hauwei each of us individually. They would be spammed with say 1 million emails.
3. We have paid allot for this device , an android device should be open and customizable. There is absolutely no valid reason to lock down an android device, unless you as smartphone brand try to protect your spyware .
Anyway are you with me brothers ? Let's get the full potential for the hardware that we paid for. Huawei needs to start offering the bootloader codes again and enable OEM unlock. Period. Other resolutions are not acceptable.
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Ill support you. Just let me know what you need.
ilovepj said:
Ah, you mean the new firmware, I run .146 , how to get the .172?
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Check out funkyhuawei on Twitter. Instructions there.
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Check out funkyhuawei on Twitter. Instructions there.
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It pains me in the heart to see where this android open community is heading. It kinda goes against my principles to pay 18 usd for an update. This is unseen with any android device I had before . Users/devs just try to help each other and make stuff public..
I hope this changes soon and that these methods are made public, instead of commercialized by 3d parties. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
P.S. MODS Please do not delete this post, It is a legitimate discussion, no need to go and censor posts on XDA, regardless of your affiliation with any third party company, users should be able to discuss their thoughts in here
Happy new ear by he way brothers and sisters!
ilovepj said:
It pains me in the heart to see where this android open community is heading. It kinda goes against my principles to pay 18 usd for an update. This is unseen with any android device I had before . Users/devs just try to help each other and make stuff public..
I hope this changes soon and that these methods are made public, instead of commercialized by 3d parties. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
P.S. MODS Please do not delete this post, It is a legitimate discussion, no need to go and censor posts on XDA, regardless of your affiliation with any third party company, users should be able to discuss their thoughts in here
Happy new ear by he way brothers and sisters!
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Im with you man, is disgusting.
wijiji said:
Im with you man, is disgusting.
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I only wish I could pay as little as 18 dollars for something that no longer seems to exist. Cheers
antiochasylum said:
Check out funkyhuawei on Twitter. Instructions there.
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You know, this bootloader problem is so annoying I wish XDA would ban phones on their site that do not have unlock codes available.
So is it hopeless? No bootloader unlock code anywhere?
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So is it hopeless? No bootloader unlock code anywhere?
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I guess funkyhuawei last option but way too high orice its like useless also development is fading
Right now funkyhuawei is not able to provides unlock codes for Mate 20 X .... (

Having a moan at Huawei

Just spotted this article on xda and it just made me feel numb about this phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/andr...-g-2015-sony-xperia-z3-compact-htc-10-one-m8/
The HTC M8 and HTC 10 just got Android 10!!
I've bought bogey phones before that I didn't like, the z1, note 4, Evo 3D, and I made do with what was available which want a lot, but the p20 pro takes top prize for the saga that is the bootloader codes and the anti Dev scene that is there p20 pro section of xda.
I got my bootloader unlock code day one, then I didn't write it down (my mistake) then I flashed a service firmware and it relocked, Huawei won't give me my original code. They didn't understand that they had already given me it?? Just needed to resend the same one lol. So crap.
Being used to HTC, OnePlus and Nexus devices, even Sammy, they all had thriving communities, and even though the pro is a beast with all the right hardware and components to develop for, Huawei just makes everything hard, borderline impossible in certain circumstances.
They've now made their own file system and compiler.
Compilers called ark I think, not sure what this will mean for after market development but it probably won't be good.
After hearing of a sort of partnership between xda and Huawei, I kind of committed with that in mind and the reviews I'd read about the camera (all I wanted was OIS really)
Camera is brilliant, just didn't expect the crap that happened afterwards.
Sorry for the moan, I am getting old
Would you buy another Huawei knowing how impossible it'll be to root and install your favourite custom ROM?
Personally I wouldn't, the ads are unblockable pretty much, removing device bloat is a ballache and updates are so splintered between the plethora of models Huawei decided to make some people are still on Oreo?
Such a shame, the device has a tonne of potential, ruined by a company that doesn't understand the essence of Android.
Ah well, OnePlus from here on in.
Blame Trump for putting pressure with the Android crap. Google is slowly removing safetynet on many huawei phones so pretty much we can't do anything.
P20 pro is a great device but bad managed by the software itself. I never had ads on my phone and, i agree, it's sad to see that Huawei had to lock almost everything just to prove that they are not a insecure company.
**** Trump, period.
The Restless Soul said:
Blame Trump for putting pressure with the Android crap. Google is slowly removing safetynet on many huawei phones so pretty much we can't do anything.
P20 pro is a great device but bad managed by the software itself. I never had ads on my phone and, i agree, it's sad to see that Huawei had to lock almost everything just to prove that they are not a insecure company.
**** Trump, period.
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You have ads on websites though, no avoiding that besides the likes of adclear which uses a VPN and murders the battery.
Trump just wanted to tap them for some money.
The bootloader codes were before him banning them.
dladz said:
You have ads on websites though, no avoiding that besides the likes of adclear which uses a VPN and murders the battery.
Trump just wanted to tap them for some money.
The bootloader codes were before him banning them.
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I mean, the ads can be removed by using Brave browser, since it is the same as Chrome but has adblocking.
The bootloader code fiasco happened because of 2 reasons :
1.Huawei was getting smack because of the xda noobs bricking their phones and then complaining how their phones are crap
2.Trump because he kept putting pressure on Huawei after the mate 10 fiasco.
The Restless Soul said:
I mean, the ads can be removed by using Brave browser, since it is the same as Chrome but has adblocking.
The bootloader code fiasco happened because of 2 reasons :
1.Huawei was getting smack because of the xda noobs bricking their phones and then complaining how their phones are crap
2.Trump because he kept putting pressure on Huawei after the mate 10 fiasco.
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I think the bootloader is much deeper rooted than that..
The volume of broken phones is just not high enough.. I think they hit a target of expected sales and then decided it was enough to take the hit..
Neither of us could be 100% it's speculation.
Either way, it's a sh*tshow and they can whistle if they think they'll get a penny from me again.
HTC have been doing the same thing for years with one blip when they had the one X.
@dladz
For me it's not HUAWEI's fault if you were stupid for not noticing your code.
titi66200 said:
@dladz
For me it's not HUAWEI's fault if you were stupid for not noticing your code.
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In all the phones I've ever had I've never had a relock.
Don't call me things you wouldn't say to my face ok?
The Restless Soul said:
I mean, the ads can be removed by using Brave browser, since it is the same as Chrome but has adblocking.
The bootloader code fiasco happened because of 2 reasons :
1.Huawei was getting smack because of the xda noobs bricking their phones and then complaining how their phones are crap
2.Trump because he kept putting pressure on Huawei after the mate 10 fiasco.
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Will give it a shot. Cheers for that.
Don't be a cry-baby. if you want customization, go for OnePlus. I bought P20 Pro because of the Leica Optics, and I enjoyed the camera a lot. And I don't mind having Android 10 early or late. Pie is still decent and recent enough to use as daily driver.
spiderx_mm said:
Don't be a cry-baby. if you want customization, go for OnePlus. I bought P20 Pro because of the Leica Optics, and I enjoyed the camera a lot. And I don't mind having Android 10 early or late. Pie is still decent and recent enough to use as daily driver.
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You don't agree with any of the points?
Why bother commenting here.
Please don't.
spiderx_mm said:
Don't be a cry-baby. if you want customization, go for OnePlus. I bought P20 Pro because of the Leica Optics, and I enjoyed the camera a lot. And I don't mind having Android 10 early or late. Pie is still decent and recent enough to use as daily driver.
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P20 pro offers plenty of customization options too, but people don't bother using them anyway
The Restless Soul said:
P20 pro offers plenty of customization options too, but people don't bother using them anyway
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Nah I know, just could have been so much more
The Restless Soul said:
P20 pro offers plenty of customization options too, but people don't bother using them anyway
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Not enough
Enter the private DNS section in the phone settings and add "dns.adguard.com" and you're ad-free. No app needed with Android 9.
Slow updates is and will always be an issue, but as long as we get our security patches, we should be fine. I was a heavy modification user back then too, but switching to Huawei I did not even tried to unlock my bootloader. Sure you miss some freedom and control over your device, for which you paid hundreds of euros, but for the future it's the user's choice, which phone to select when buying a new phone. Google Pixel oder OnePlus is much more user friendly I guess and should be considered over Huawei, if you want to modificate your device. With the latest disagreements with Trumps China politics, maybe Huawei will create an open source alternative with more control for the user.
Id just love regular updates. I know EE are to blame too but it took from January to June for the .168 update.
We've now had nothing for 2 months.
My first and last Huawei.
dladz said:
You don't agree with any of the points?
Why bother commenting here.
Please don't.
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Why bother creating a topic when you clearly only want to hear one point of view?
Hamza5682 said:
Why bother creating a topic when you clearly only want to hear one point of view?
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Similar thinking would have been more the aim.
Plus I'm old, I can moan as much as I like. This thread for the p20 is so dead all you guys can do is bash me.
If you've got nothing to add then don't add it.
dladz said:
You have ads on websites though, no avoiding that besides the likes of adclear which uses a VPN and murders the battery.
Trump just wanted to tap them for some money.
The bootloader codes were before him banning them.
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I agree with most of what you said, even those dooshes approx 1k miles to the east of China have in place an option to bootloader unlock( none of the code bull****) unless one buys an American version of their devices (Samsoog ).
WhyWowee emui is pretty ****e., Now with their global locked bootloader policy one is limited to their weak app gallery or theme store for customisation since development is now dead on here. Even the Huawei forums on here are a ghost town.
In regards to ads, I don't get ads using Samsung browser and adblock. Maybe you should try that.
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Limeybastard said:
I agree with most of what you said, even those dooshes approx 1k miles to the east of China have in place an option to bootloader unlock( none of the code bull****) unless one buys an American version of their devices (Samsoog ).
WhyWowee emui is pretty ****e., Now with their global locked bootloader policy one is limited to their weak app gallery or theme store for customisation since development is now dead on here. Even the Huawei forums on here are a ghost town.
In regards to ads, I don't get ads using Samsung browser and adblock. Maybe you should try that.
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Been using adguard. It's been great up til now .
Limeybastard said:
I agree with most of what you said, even those dooshes approx 1k miles to the east of China have in place an option to bootloader unlock( none of the code bull****) unless one buys an American version of their devices (Samsoog ).
WhyWowee emui is pretty ****e., Now with their global locked bootloader policy one is limited to their weak app gallery or theme store for customisation since development is now dead on here. Even the Huawei forums on here are a ghost town.
In regards to ads, I don't get ads using Samsung browser and adblock. Maybe you should try that.
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Blame the annoying orange for going full crybaby and blame Huawei for the security risks that weren't proven yet. They locked their bootloader for security purposes and yet they are still blocked. Thanks US!

Google responds to Huawei users sideloading apps

https://support.google.com/android/thread/29434011
Thank you, Trump! Very cool!
Well we all have the P20 Pro at this forum, so this doesn't concern us.
arty_a said:
Well we all have the P20 Pro at this forum, so this doesn't concern us.
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You never know if Trump makes a decision that pushes Google to remove gapps on existing huawei phones.
The Restless Soul said:
You never know if Trump makes a decision that pushes Google to remove gapps on existing huawei phones.
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That is practically impossible.
1) I'm not sure any Google apps have the technical ability to be completely removed remotely (unless using some very nasty and very secret backdoor).
2) At this point, the only thing that prevents Google from working with Huawei in the trade ban, which has no power over past events/deals/devices, and only enforced from a certain date onward.
arty_a said:
That is practically impossible.
1) I'm not sure any Google apps have the technical ability to be completely removed remotely (unless using some very nasty and very secret backdoor).
2) At this point, the only thing that prevents Google from working with Huawei in the trade ban, which has no power over past events/deals/devices, and only enforced from a certain date onward.
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I mean, they can be remotely deactivated by removing the licenses for the current huawei phones. Besides, apparently HMS will be a big deal for Google so let's see what happens.
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You never know if Trump makes a decision that pushes Google to remove gapps on existing huawei phones.
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I don't think they can can they?
I have Google apps on my fire TV which aren't approved, so not sure.
Maybe if they can identify the device they could..
So glad my contract is up, I'm literally waiting for the 1+8

Banking apps question.

Hi guys.
I keep seeing recurring themes on social media of people saying that they cannot get any banking apps over, banking apps not working.
Do people know what the issue is with this as my apps phone cloned over? I also just update them through Aurora store; Which just seems like a clone of play store.
Anyone else had these issue, or is it just the Huawei haters that would never even get a Huawei device poking there nose in?
dw9075n said:
Hi guys.
I keep seeing recurring themes on social media of people saying that they cannot get any banking apps over, banking apps not working.
Do people know what the issue is with this as my apps phone cloned over? I also just update them through Aurora store; Which just seems like a clone of play store.
Anyone else had these issue, or is it just the Huawei haters that would never even get a Huawei device poking there nose in?
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Totally agree with you on this one I see so many negative comments but none are true especially as I am comfortable using a P40 Pro with access to Halifax, Barclays and Tesco Bank and 2 of those were Phone Cloned over with no issues a month in, would be a solid suggestion if Huawei went public with this as it could be make or break for a potential customer.
Me too, used clone and then aurora, no problems. Use Lloyds with no probs too. Well happy.
Most likely trolls spreading false information. I was using a banking app that wasn't on the Huawei App Gallery without any issues at all. It was recently added to the App Gallery, so that's even better I guess.
jericho246 said:
Most likely trolls spreading false information. I was using a banking app that wasn't on the Huawei App Gallery without any issues at all. It was recently added to the App Gallery, so that's even better I guess.
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I agree with you, its people spreading misinformation. They are likely people that wouldn't even buy Huawei as they are probably wrapped up in an overprices phone that will have all the features of Huawei devices 3 years later.
Tech_Droid1 said:
Totally agree with you on this one I see so many negative comments but none are true especially as I am comfortable using a P40 Pro with access to Halifax, Barclays and Tesco Bank and 2 of those were Phone Cloned over with no issues a month in, would be a solid suggestion if Huawei went public with this as it could be make or break for a potential customer.
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The issue i feel is that people see Huawei as "bad guys" due to certain people not being a fan of the company. Purely on the fact that they do things better than most.
jericho246 said:
Most likely trolls spreading false information. I was using a banking app that wasn't on the Huawei App Gallery without any issues at all. It was recently added to the App Gallery, so that's even better I guess.
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ooo What bank was this? maybe useful for me, Im on the cusp of leaving barclays as currently its not supported.
Sathelp said:
Me too, used clone and then aurora, no problems. Use Lloyds with no probs too. Well happy.
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Using Aurora for the updates I presume?
Yes for as many as i can
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ooo What bank was this? maybe useful for me, Im on the cusp of leaving barclays as currently its not supported.
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Ah, it's a national bank in France
The Barclays app doesn't work at all?
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Ah, it's a national bank in France
The Barclays app doesn't work at all?
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currently at the minute no - however I got in touch with them via facebook and they got back in touch to my surprise and they said they were going to pass it to the right department. If it doesn't work I will have to switch banks - for now im using the web browser as a solution.
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The issue i feel is that people see Huawei as "bad guys" due to certain people not being a fan of the company. Purely on the fact that they do things better than most.
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This is exactly the problem, the far East is a highly motivated and developed country with the resources to help globalisation not break it but the media portrays it in a different way I suppose.
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This is exactly the problem, the far East is a highly motivated and developed country with the resources to help globalisation not break it but the media portrays it in a different way I suppose.
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the western media tbf is very 'shhhhh' misleading. I think if they had given a bigger picture & then be more informative I think the message would be clearer. Had I not known by actually researching into Huawei , I would have thought that all Huawei products would have been withdrawn off the UK market - However that's not the case , its just infrastructure not handsets/tablets.
dw9075n said:
Hi guys.
I keep seeing recurring themes on social media of people saying that they cannot get any banking apps over, banking apps not working.
Do people know what the issue is with this as my apps phone cloned over? I also just update them through Aurora store; Which just seems like a clone of play store.
Anyone else had these issue, or is it just the Huawei haters that would never even get a Huawei device poking there nose in?
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I use Halifax, No issues. just phone cloned and jobs done.

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