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will the new touch pro from devicewire in the uk work on at&t's 3g network? thanks
wordsworth03 said:
will the new touch pro from devicewire in the uk work on at&t's 3g network? thanks
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No, 900/2100mhz UMTS, AT&T uses 850/1900mhz.
wordsworth03 said:
will the new touch pro from devicewire in the uk work on at&t's 3g network? thanks
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Well, that's the million dollar question, isn't it? Many of us are waiting to find out the answer. The AT&T ROM which has already been released on this site should enable access to UMTS 850/1900 bands which AT&T uses. The question is does this phone have the hardware to support this or will the US version have different hardware to access these bands. The answer to this question should be revealed in the next day or two as UK versions of this phone start showing up on US doorsteps including mine.
great, thanks for the response...please keep us updated! i want to pull the trigger very badly on one of these and i have very little patience!
I know it sounds stupid but why go through the trouble of purposefully crippling the european version? I dunno it just sounds weird to me, and more like their deal with att ( att doesnt want tons of these being imported before they release their version ) is causing this lack of U.S. UMTS via firmware.
Well the Diamonds over there can't get UMTS because they don't have the 850/1900 UMTS radio, the hardware was removed to make it smaller. We're hoping the Raphael has the same hardware, but you never know if that's the case.
let's just hope they don't name it something stupid,I don't know how well the sugar trick would work on the surface of the Touch Pro to remove any stupid branding att puts on the phone. ATT manages to make HTC's sexy into slight trailer trash every time.
migsims said:
let's just hope they don't name it something stupid,I don't know how well the sugar trick would work on the surface of the Touch Pro to remove any stupid branding att puts on the phone. ATT manages to make HTC's sexy into slight trailer trash every time.
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AT&T Fusion is what we're hearing.
I just spoke to HTC tech support, the guy said that there is a touch pro version in Hong Kong that works on the UMTS 850, which would mean that it would work on ATT 3G here in the US, he gave me a number for the HTC kiosk in Beijing (they have a tech support location there during the Olympics for HTC customers visiting) the number he gave me is 400-700-7011, its in china i haven't been able to get through. He also said there is a ROM upgrade for the Hong Kong version that would enable 3G on the 850 band. I am just as confused as I was before I called.
gatordent said:
I just spoke to HTC tech support, the guy said that there is a touch pro version in Hong Kong that works on the UMTS 850, which would mean that it would work on ATT 3G here in the US, he gave me a number for the HTC kiosk in Beijing (they have a tech support location there during the Olympics for HTC customers visiting) the number he gave me is 400-700-7011, its in china i haven't been able to get through. He also said there is a ROM upgrade for the Hong Kong version that would enable 3G on the 850 band. I am just as confused as I was before I called.
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That's the 850 GSM, not UMTS. Yes, this has been covered with the Diamond, a ROM update enabled the 850mhz GSM band for it to be quad-band.
Black93300ZX said:
That's the 850 GSM, not UMTS. Yes, this has been covered with the Diamond, a ROM update enabled the 850mhz GSM band for it to be quad-band.
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The tech made it sound like it was a different Hardware version, he may not know what he is talking about, but i was able to contact the people in China (through skype) but they were not helpful. She gave me the HTC Hong Kong number I'll try them later. Hopefully we can rule out the fact that there might be hardware differences.
gatordent said:
The tech made it sound like it was a different Hardware version, he may not know what he is talking about, but i was able to contact the people in China (through skype) but they were not helpful. She gave me the HTC Hong Kong number I'll try them later. Hopefully we can rule out the fact that there might be hardware differences.
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Well if you can find anything with the hardware ID of RAPH110, I can personally guarantee it has the hardware to run on AT&T 3G. Other than that, we'll see within the next few days as people will be getting and testing RAPH100's with the AT&T ROM.
bersca said:
Well, that's the million dollar question, isn't it? Many of us are waiting to find out the answer. The AT&T ROM which has already been released on this site should enable access to UMTS 850/1900 bands which AT&T uses. The question is does this phone have the hardware to support this or will the US version have different hardware to access these bands. The answer to this question should be revealed in the next day or two as UK versions of this phone start showing up on US doorsteps including mine.
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We are just in progress to buy the Raphael or tp wait for the Xperia. We are travelling to Europe and Asia,but live in the US. As a result we want the UMTS working on 850, 1900 and 2100. Can you figure out if this is a hardware issue or a ROM update. I tseems the Xperia can do it, but we dont like to wait much longer and would like to go with Raphael but the UMTS is a working issue....
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We are just in progress to buy the Raphael or tp wait for the Xperia. We are travelling to Europe and Asia,but live in the US. As a result we want the UMTS working on 850, 1900 and 2100. Can you figure out if this is a hardware issue or a ROM update. I tseems the Xperia can do it, but we dont like to wait much longer and would like to go with Raphael but the UMTS is a working issue....
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This has been said many times, AT THIS TIME, NO ONE CAN GUARANTEE. In the next few days it will be tested, keep an eye out on the forum.
I'm outside the US so I don't have access to the Google Play store to look at a Nexus 5. Can I buy a GSM version directly from Google Play? Or am I going to have to spend an extra 50 bucks to get it from Amazon?
Thanks a bunch!
kezs said:
I'm outside the US so I don't have access to the Google Play store to look at a Nexus 5. Can I buy a GSM version directly from Google Play? Or am I going to have to spend an extra 50 bucks to get it from Amazon?
Thanks a bunch!
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A GSM Version? Both are GSM:
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Rest of World:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
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A lot of other countries can buy the N5 on the Play Store.
Primokorn said:
A GSM Version? Both are GSM:
A lot of other countries can buy the N5 on the Play Store.
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Cool! So that means I can't even get a CDMA version? That makes things easier, cause my sister in law is buying it.
Whenever I try to access Nexus 5 in Google Play I'm taken to a page that says it isn't available in my country.
Thanks!
kezs said:
Cool! So that means I can't even get a CDMA version? That makes things easier, cause my sister in law is buying it.
Whenever I try to access Nexus 5 in Google Play I'm taken to a page that says it isn't available in my country.
Thanks!
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Nope. The CDMA version is only available for North Americans.
I didn't see that you are living in Brazil... Unfortunately the Nexus 5 is only available in the following countries: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, India, Japan, Netherlands, Portugal, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom, United States.
You have to buy it through Amazon.
Primokorn said:
Nope. The CDMA version is only available for North Americans.
I didn't see that you are living in Brazil... Unfortunately the Nexus 5 is only available in the following countries: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, India, Japan, Netherlands, Portugal, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom, United States.
You have to buy it through Amazon.
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Actually that's the point... my sister in law is buying it in the US. I'm trying to figure out whether she can get the GSM version from Google Play... I can't look at it myself because it's not available here. I'd ask her to look at it but I'm not sure she'd know where to look (since I wouldn't).
kezs said:
Actually that's the point... my sister in law is buying it in the US. I'm trying to figure out whether she can get the GSM version from Google Play... I can't look at it myself because it's not available here. I'd ask her to look at it but I'm not sure she'd know where to look (since I wouldn't).
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If she is in the US she can only buy the US version. Google Play Store detects your IP to show up the products matching with your localization.
Anyway if you want to use a Nexus 5 in Brazil you need the D821 version so don't buy the device through an US IP address.
Primokorn said:
If she is in the US she can only buy the US version. Google Play Store detects your IP to show up the products matching with your localization.
Anyway if you want to use a Nexus 5 in Brazil you need the D821 version so don't buy the device through an US IP address.
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I'm not sure I follow. Can you not get a Nexus 5 to use with AT&T? AFAIK AT&T uses 850/1900 frequencies for 3G, which is the same as my operator here. I'm not sure about 4G but I'm not really worried about that. Other than that, as long as it's GSM you just snap in your microSIM and you're good, isn't it?
The difference between the the d820 and d821 is simply which LTE (4g) bands they operate on. That's the only difference.
If you're never using 4g on this phone, either will work fine
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
So, to sum it all up:
- Every Nexus 5 is GSM and those sold in the US are both GSM (micro SIM) and CDMA capable;
- The US version (D820) supports different LTE bands than the international version (D821).
There's a chance Brazil will start using Band 17 (700mhz) some time soon. In that case the Nexus 5 US (D820) would be LTE-capable here.
Otherwise, both versions will work with 2 and 3G anywhere.
Any mistakes there?
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So, to sum it all up:
- Every Nexus 5 is GSM and those sold in the US are both GSM (micro SIM) and CDMA capable;
- The US version (D820) supports different LTE bands than the international version (D821).
There's a chance Brazil will start using Band 17 (700mhz) some time soon. In that case the Nexus 5 US (D820) would be LTE-capable here.
Otherwise, both versions will work with 2 and 3G anywhere.
Any mistakes there?
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Correct.
North American version LTE will not work outside North America... otherwise, everything else will work and vice vera...
I just ordered my black Mi4 today and will hopefully switch from my z1c in a few days. Are there other users within europe to share knowledge with? Since 3g and 4g networks differ from the network bands used in the USA, it might be a good idea to get connected.
Of course, i'm still interested in sharing knowhow with everyone else of you too when it comes to non-network-related issues.
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I just ordered my black Mi4 today and will hopefully switch from my z1c in a few days. Are there other users within europe to share knowledge with? Since 3g and 4g networks differ from the network bands used in the USA, it might be a good idea to get connected.
Of course, i'm still interested in sharing knowhow with everyone else of you too when it comes to non-network-related issues.
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Where did you order your mi4 ? what website ?
directly from Xiaomi. http://www.xiaomishop.com/180-xiaomi-mi4-16gb-wcdma-smartphone-black.html
Xiaomishop is not Xiaomi, just reseller.
interesting. Didn't know that. But it seems like a trustworthy reseller anyways, as i read tons of positive remarks about them. But let's just see when (and how) my device arrives.
toxic_garden said:
I just ordered my black Mi4 today and will hopefully switch from my z1c in a few days. Are there other users within europe to share knowledge with? Since 3g and 4g networks differ from the network bands used in the USA, it might be a good idea to get connected.
Of course, i'm still interested in sharing knowhow with everyone else of you too when it comes to non-network-related issues.
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I have a white 3G one, since september and it works very well with european networks. Tested it in France and UK.
NeySlim said:
I have a white 3G one, since september and it works very well with european networks. Tested it in France and UK.
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great! As France and Germany use the same frequency bands, everything should be fine then. I read a few complains about bad/no reception, but it seems like this wouldn't be a general problem after all.
No problem of reception at all. I get even better signal than my old S4 Mini, and better sound quality too.
whats best place to buy the mi4? just a reference is ok no need for full url..
i want to bu black version but it seems kinda like sold out?
Rene_ajax said:
whats best place to buy the mi4? just a reference is ok no need for full url..
i want to bu black version but it seems kinda like sold out?
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it's available @ xiaomishop right now. Product ID M180
my order just went to status "shipped" today. Can't wait to get my hands on that cutie.
FDD LTE Band 20
The international version of the Mi4 is available today.
But there is no official support for FDD LTE 800 MHz (Band 20)
Maybe it comes out next year or we can get with a firmware update ?
FDD-LTE model is not available yet, you have to wait.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4/general/unlocking-basebands-mi4-t2879685
Nobody has reported success in unlocking bands on different model, likely hardware issue/impossible.
DeMichaelis said:
The international version of the Mi4 is available today.
But there is no official support for FDD LTE 800 MHz (Band 20)
Maybe it comes out next year or we can get with a firmware update ?
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I do not think that this will happen with the MI4, just more in a new model like "MI5". In Germany you can use this Band 20 with t-mobile in some areas.You can not fix this problem with an simple software update, its more linked to the hardware conditions. But you can put me right
so i got my Mi4 yesterday. 2G/3G seem to work perfectly fine.
The only thing i'm still not quite sure about is localization. I currently use .12.12 dev-Edition. Seems like giving root-Access right out of MIUI is not available in stable editions. But sadly, the localized versions (in my case: german ) seem to lack behind. Not a big deal as i'm perfectly fine using english terms in my OS, but i wonder if there is any way to tell 3rd party apps (facebook etc.) that they should use foreign languages. Any ideas?
[edit] woohoo! This one did the trick: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evanhe.locale
All 3rd party apps, that have any localization built in, now show up in german language
toxic_garden said:
it's available @ xiaomishop right now. Product ID M180
my order just went to status "shipped" today. Can't wait to get my hands on that cutie.
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fantastic
DeMichaelis said:
The international version of the Mi4 is available today.
But there is no official support for FDD LTE 800 MHz (Band 20)
Maybe it comes out next year or we can get with a firmware update ?
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Now FDD LTE is ready
LTE Band 20
lenteenes said:
Now FDD LTE is ready
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any information about support of LTE Band 20 ?
Only 1800 And 2100
Envoyé de mon MI 4LTE en utilisant Tapatalk
DeMichaelis said:
any information about support of LTE Band 20 ?
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Xiao mi 4G:FDD-LTE 1800(B3)/2100(B1)MHz
lenteenes said:
Xiao mi 4G:FDD-LTE 1800(B3)/2100(B1)MHz
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Being that Europe has the similar bands as the U.S. will it work in the States?
Should I wait for the US version of this phone, or buy an international one? Will it be any differences in specs or in 4G/LTE bands for the US version? And how long does it usually take between the international release and US release? Thanks!
The only two bands across T-Mobile and AT&T that I see missing from gsmarena specs are Band 30 (AT&T, not sure how important this is) and Band 71 (hardly any phones have this, so should not miss it)
The rest (Bands 2,4,5,12,17,66) seem to be supported
I've seen these specs, but they are selling now several variants - South American and some others, and it's hard to know what bands they have because models numbers are different than on GSM arena site....
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Should I wait for the US version of this phone, or buy an international one? Will it be any differences in specs or in 4G/LTE bands for the US version? And how long does it usually take between the international release and US release? Thanks!
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I have the A70 and it's a South American version and I love it. You'll probably never notice a difference ever, with the exception of Samsung pay.
That will not work with phones outside your home region.
If that doesn't bother you than go for it.
If it does bother you than wait... or wait a bit longer for the 5G version that's just around the corner.
5G version on the way.
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_a71_5g_could_be_heading_to_the_united_states-news-41068.php
Just make sure that the phone you buy has the right frequencies ....Example SM-A515W (Canada) would work whereas SM-A515GN/DS might not.
spend some research time on the frequencies and you'll be fine ....
If you buy from B&H Camera they make it simple and have international versions that work here.
Hope tha helps.
Thanks! Where do they sell Canadian version? Also, is there a website with a listing for model numbers for all countries variants, I couldn'r find one....
Hello,
I bought this wonderful phone (Oneplus 8T) in Europe but it doesn't work in the USA.
According to this page https://www.kimovil.com/it/frequency-checker/US/oneplus-8t my "Global" version can't receive Band 71 (660 MHz) but the "Nord America" version can do it.
Is there a way to flash the USA firmware so to have all the needed Bands or it will be an HW problem?
Thanks in advance.
carlinux said:
Hello,
I bought this wonderful phone (Oneplus 8T) in Europe but it doesn't work in the USA.
According to this page https://www.kimovil.com/it/frequency-checker/US/oneplus-8t my "Global" version can't receive Band 71 (660 MHz) but the "Nord America" version can do it.
Is there a way to flash the USA firmware so to have all the needed Bands or it will be an HW problem?
Thanks in advance.
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I bought the European version and mine works well in America. I'm on T-Mobile. Who is your carrier?
So, you bought the EU variant or the global variant?
My carrier is T-Mobile too. And the phone works very well in some places, but not where I need.
I am waiting for a confirmation but in the house where my daughter lives the only one band is Band 71.
Murphy's law, I think.
You can convert between the different oos versions without much problem but the band support can't be changed it is configured in hw, which we can't modify.