Samsung's support for charger faster than default 25W - Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Lite Questions & Answers

Any idea or if someone can actually test (after getting the device) whether the Note 10 Lite supports a charger faster than 25W?

sanchit9282 said:
Any idea or if someone can actually test (after getting the device) whether the Note 10 Lite supports a charger faster than 25W?
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No. But the Note 10 Lite supports USB 3.1, because according to the specs on Samsung homepage it should only have USB 2.0, but this is a mistake.
But you need a USB 3 cable to achieve fast data transfer, because the included cable only supports USB 2.0.

Boardcdd said:
No. But the Note 10 Lite supports USB 3.1, because according to the specs on Samsung homepage it should only have USB 2.0, but this is a mistake.
But you need a USB 3 cable to achieve fast data transfer, because the included cable only supports USB 2.0.
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But in some video reviews, they say that (like S10 Lite) the Note 10 Lite also supports 45W fast charging, though it has not been advertised (just like SuperSteady mode).
Couldn't confirm it yet.

I've used my 45W charger and it does support higher charging speeds. The text says "super fast charging". I haven't measured the exact values but it's considerably faster.

thedisturbedone said:
I've used my 45W charger and it does support higher charging speeds. The text says "super fast charging". I haven't measured the exact values but it's considerably faster.
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Where can you find article or find that data in my phone settings?

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usb 3.0

How is the 3.0 usb working on this tab? Any problems with it?
Data transfer is fast but the charge time is ridiculous slow
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markklok said:
Data transfer is fast but the charge time is ridiculous slow
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If it works like the N3's charging isn't affected. And higher transfer speeds are only to USB 3.0-equipped Windows PCs.
The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.
Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect.​
Charging is an interesting story on the Note 3, but primarily because of what doesn’t change. The Note 3 continues to use Samsung’s tablet charging specification and charger, which has 2 amps of maximum output. The Note 3 draws 2 amps over a considerable amount of the charging curve, like other Samsung devices (in the linear part of the charge curve). USB 3.0 doesn’t change things up here quite yet with the new supported charge voltages that are coming eventually with the power delivery specification.​
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/3
Somewhere (maybe in the user guide?!) in the specification of the Note Pro 12.2 you can read something about a maximum charging time of 4 hours. To get this charging time you need a minimum of 2,5 A. What is the specification of the power plug?
On an USB3 host (PC, Laptop...) you only get a maximum current of 900 mA, maybe a bit more sometimes. With this current the charging time should be easily over 12 hours.
markklok said:
Data transfer is fast but the charge time is ridiculous slow
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Slower or faster than the 10.1 2014?
USB 3.0 works just fine. Read/Write speeds have easily been over 30MB/s, with peaks around 40 or so. That's with the Sandisk 64GB MicroSD Class 10 card I have installed, which is really the "bottleneck." It's noticeably faster using internal storage and much closer to max USB 3.0 speeds, especially when reading.
Also FYI, the included charger has an Output of 5.3V / 2.0A. Which is 10.6 Watt.
Keep in mind that the tablet can easily draw more power than either USB 2.0 or 3.0 can provide, while in use. USB is 0.5A and USB 3.0 0.9A. Using the included 2.0A charger is your best bet.
I just let mine charge up over night, so I'm not really watching it or anything. I haven't gotten anywhere close to killing the battery, but I also haven't put it through "all day" heavy use yet.
I am running GSAM, so we'll see how things look soon enough.

Note 3: Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0

Hi,
Has anyone tried to charge the Note 3 with a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 charger and does it charge significantly faster?
The reason I ask is that our phone's processor, Snapdragon 800, is listed as supporting Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/800
The technology works by ramping up the charging voltage when the battery is low, and slowly reducing voltage as the battery fills up.
This is exactly the same technology which the Note 4 uses and dubs "Adaptive Fast Charging".
The latest Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 chargers charge at:
12V * 1.5A = 18W
9V * 2A = 18W
5V * 2A = 10W
(voltage is reduced as battery charges up).
You can see the voltage/amperage of the charger written somewhere on the charger.
Chargers that are 5V/2A only (e.g. stock charger) are not quick charge 2.0.
This is not to be confused with USB 3.0 charging (which is only ~5V * 1A = 5W from PC), or 2A chargers (5V * 2A = 10W from 0 to 100%).
Our Note 3's chipset supports this, but it won't be very surprising if Samsung disables this on the firmware or kernel level.
If anyone has tried charging the Note 3 with a QC 2.0 charger, your input is much appreciated!
I haven't used that charger, but I've been charging at nothing but 2A for quite some time (via kernel settings). It seems like it charges up pretty damn fast, and I haven't noticed any ill-effects from it....
Note 4 charged with quick charge, discharges faster too, so I think it's useless if the battery life decreases.
Maybe it's a problem of the note 4, but I don't think so.
Morningstar said:
I haven't used that charger, but I've been charging at nothing but 2A for quite some time (via kernel settings). It seems like it charges up pretty damn fast, and I haven't noticed any ill-effects from it....
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It charges at double speed at <80% (or similar, varies depending on when it throttles to 5W/2A).
Essentially, you can charge up to 60-80% within half hour, as advertised by Qualcomm.
That's extremely useful if you simply want to add 30% to your battery life with 15 minutes of charging before leaving the house, etc.
The difference is more obvious with half hour: 50-60% charge versus 20-30%.
Hi, to which kernel are you referring to old ? Some chancethat it is vcompatible with stock Lollipop ? Thanks
Checked with a multimeter, maximum I can reach is 5V on a Note 4 charger even I am charging from 10% and screen off
Samsung disabled this. Didn't try on 5.0 anyway.
GeneralMeow said:
Checked with a multimeter, maximum I can reach is 5V on a Note 4 charger even I am charging from 10% and screen off
Samsung disabled this. Didn't try on 5.0 anyway.
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To my knowledge, the Note 4 charger is not a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 charger.
It is a Samsung-proprietary variant for the Note 4 only, and unlike other QC 2.0 chargers only toggles between 5/9V instead of 5/9/12V.
Note 4 however does support the Quick Charge 2.0 standard as well.
Please do correct me if I'm mistaken.
tsj5j said:
To my knowledge, the Note 4 charger is not a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 charger.
It is a Samsung-proprietary variant for the Note 4 only, and unlike other QC 2.0 chargers only toggles between 5/9V instead of 5/9/12V.
Note 4 however does support the Quick Charge 2.0 standard as well.
Please do correct me if I'm mistaken.
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If I remeber well the stock charger from Note 4 has 9V/1.5A and 5V/2A
calinormy said:
If I remeber well the stock charger from Note 4 has 9V/1.5A and 5V/2A
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Yep, but the Note 4 charger's adaptive charging is proprietary and restricted to Samsung's Note 4 - it's not a Quick Charge 2.0 charger AFAIK.
Anyone actually tried charging the Note 3 with a Quick Charge 2.0 charger?
e.g. http://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Unive...d=1421031846&sr=8-1&keywords=quick+charge+2.0
No, but a friend in work has a note 4, I will test tomorrow an post back.
Any specifics you want testing, results with various apps etc?
I don't think so that is supported, but some1 got to try it...
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/devices/all?feature=Quick Charge 2.0
tsj5j said:
To my knowledge, the Note 4 charger is not a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 charger.
It is a Samsung-proprietary variant for the Note 4 only, and unlike other QC 2.0 chargers only toggles between 5/9V instead of 5/9/12V.
Note 4 however does support the Quick Charge 2.0 standard as well.
Please do correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Fast Adaptive charger comes with galaxy s6 i tried this charger on my note 3 but fast charging is not work on note 3 and this charger is intelligent itself to deliver required amount of current to mobile my phone charged simple on 1200mAh to 1800mAh regular current delivered to Note 3 by Fast Adaptive charger when i put it on s6 it automatically detect it and on fast adaptive chrging it gives 9V ,1.97A to maintain high speed charging but not on Note 3
boomWow!
Years later, I've tried my Nexus 6's FastCharge 2.0 AC adapter and it charges significantly faster.
Doesn't charge any faster on stock firmware, checked using ampere , charges at the normal 1200mah with screen on which I believe is the max with the screen on surely there is someway to unlock it
yes it supports you can buy Tech Sense Lab 3.4 Amp Dual USB Car Charger
The ampere app shows my Note 3 charge at a 1.8A from normal 1.2A steady flow, this is with Qualcomm 2.0 QCharge... It is probably the max rate for the device.. It is fast, especially within the lower band of the battery capacity.
With Qualcomm QuickCharge 2.0 the voltage does not ramp down, only the current does. The whole point of QC is to overcome the resistance inherent in many micro-USB cables, and that's done by boosting the voltage. My Note 4 charges at 5V/1.7(ish) amps on a non-QC charger, and 9.4V at the same current on a QC 2.0 charger, and that voltage is maintained throughout the charge with the current ramping down.
My girlfriend's Note 3 does not charge at increased voltage on my QC 2.0 charger. It just does 5V charging.
Measurements were made at the output of the charger with a USB digital multimeter.
McGyver dei poveri said:
Note 4 charged with quick charge, discharges faster too, so I think it's useless if the battery life decreases.
Maybe it's a problem of the note 4, but I don't think so.
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I haven't had any problems with battery life on my Note 4, and I quick charge mine frequently. Must be a problem with YOUR Note 4.
My adapter is 9v 2a and i can say it charger significately faster. Alot faster.
Stock charger takes anywhere between 3-6 hours where as mine takes 2-3 hours max.
I have got a replacement battery(chinese one) but is equivalent to the stock samsung battery.
Also i am using a ported rom from the s7 edge so fast charging could possibly be enabled within the kernel especially if the cpu supports it
My adapter is 9v 2a and i can say it charger significately faster. Alot faster.
Stock charger takes anywhere between 3-6 hours where as mine takes 2-3 hours max.
I have got a replacement battery(chinese one) but is equivalent to the stock samsung battery.
Also i am using a ported rom from the s7 edge so fast charging could possibly be enabled within the kernel especially if the cpu supports it

Car charger (non-wireless) w/ quick charge?

Any suggestions? I'm looking for something that can do the quick charging in the car, is that even possible? Can it be done with a dual port so my wife and I can use the quick charger at the same time?
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-PowerIQ-Technology-Samsung-Motorola/dp/B00M43S18Y/ - Would this one support quick charging in the car?
Also,
http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Extra-Premium-Android-Samsung/dp/B00NPP7TVU
This is basically the same cable that came with my S6 just longer correct? The included cable is too short to plug in near my night stand.
Any charger that is a 2amp charger... and any cable.. i have tried all my old cables on the s6 charger... all allow fast charge... and its charger is 2amp.... same as nexus 7 and all other newer devices... so just go with a 2 amp charger and enjoy the fast charge. And yes they make dual port 2 amp chargers... usually 1 port is 2 amp and second one is like 1 or 1.4amp... i have 2 cheap ones from amazon myself... will test them with the phone tomorrow and update you.
Comando156 said:
Any charger that is a 2amp charger... and any cable.. i have tried all my old cables on the s6 charger... all allow fast charge... and its charger is 2amp.... same as nexus 7 and all other newer devices... so just go with a 2 amp charger and enjoy the fast charge. And yes they make dual port 2 amp chargers... usually 1 port is 2 amp and second one is like 1 or 1.4amp... i have 2 cheap ones from amazon myself... will test them with the phone tomorrow and update you.
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any cable will work, but not every 2.0A charger will work. i tested it with a 2.0A (not the Samsung one) charger and "fast charging" did not show up in the phone.
AFAIK, you have to use one of Samsung's OEM chargers or one capable of the Quick Charge 2.0 standard for adaptive fast charging.
OP, i only did a cursory search, but i found this dual Quick Charge 2.0 charger that might meet your needs: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TGD79X8?psc=1
Interesting, I didn't think to check for QC 2.0. I was thinking the Anker one did that. Thanks!
That being said though, anyone have experience with any of them with how they hold up?
Verizon sells one, it is their generic branding, it's the only one that I have seen or tried that is marketed that it is QC 2.0, works great even has a built in LED flash light basically. Sucks that it is $34.99 though.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/verizon-vehicle-charger-with-fast-charge-technology-for-micro-usb/
From my understanding Quick Charge 2.0 is a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 (or newer) processor feature. The Galaxy S6 is running Samsung's Exynos 7420 processor which features Adaptive Fast Charging. I don't know how they vary in terms of performance, but I do know that when I plug in my Quick Charge 2.0, my S6 recognizes it as a fast charger. Battery went from 40% to 63% in 13 mins so I'm assuming both charging standards are compatible lol..
Try this car charger, worked great for my Qualcomm based phones.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VMP90A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
th3b055 said:
From my understanding Quick Charge 2.0 is a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 (or newer) processor feature. The Galaxy S6 is running Samsung's Exynos 7420 processor which features Adaptive Fast Charging. I don't know how they vary in terms of performance, but I do know that when I plug in my Quick Charge 2.0, my S6 recognizes it as a fast charger. Battery went from 40% to 63% in 13 mins so I'm assuming both charging standards are compatible lol..
Try this car charger, worked great for my Qualcomm based phones.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VMP90A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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i'm reasonably sure it's the same standard. the Note 4 (Snapdragon 805) is listed on Qualcolm's website as compatible with QC 2.0. however, if you look at Samsung's website, it only lists Adaptive Fast Charging. Samsung just rebranded QC 2.0 as their own Adaptive Fast Charging. you can use all devices interchangeably.
also, the OP wanted a dual port QC 2.0 charger. that one only has 1 port w/ QC 2.0
I have already Anker 2 amp car charger in hand and i was thinking it wont be fast enough , i have seen video where quaclom demonstrated that Quick charging is faster than 2 amps charging , and judging by the fact that Samsung is providing comparable charging time with stock charger i was thinking that it is more than 5V 2.0 Amps .. too bad i am waiting for my phone to arrive.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00SJU6EIK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I just purchased this.
I purchased this one from amazon when I had my Note 4 and I can confirm it works great with the S6. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P9UILUM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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any cable will work, but not every 2.0A charger will work. i tested it with a 2.0A (not the Samsung one) charger and "fast charging" did not show up in the phone.
AFAIK, you have to use one of Samsung's OEM chargers or one capable of the Quick Charge 2.0 standard for adaptive fast charging.
OP, i only did a cursory search, but i found this dual Quick Charge 2.0 charger that might meet your needs: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TGD79X8?psc=1
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Yep. Your right sir. Just tried all my 2.0 / 2.1 amp chargers... not quick charging... guess ill grab some qc 2.0 amp chargers from amazon for car and backups.
alnova1 said:
I purchased this one from amazon when I had my Note 4 and I can confirm it works great with the S6. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P9UILUM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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This is the one I was looking at, thanks!

USB-A to C vs. Straight USB-C Charging Rates

I was curious, since I have quite a few USB-A Quick Charge 2.0 chargers, if there is any advantage to using a USB-C charger and cable, over a USB-A Charger with an A to C Cable?
I have compared the factory charger with several of my aftermarket QC 2.0 chargers/Cables and I get pretty much the same rate with both. Using the Ampere app I was able to get 1030 mA on both the Factory Samsung Charger/Cable and the aftermarket QC 2.0 Chargers/Cables (Anker and Aukey Brands).
Has anyone invested in a USB-C Charger/Cable that they could see if the Note 7 takes advantage of the higher Voltage/Amp of the USB-C platform?
Just wondering if it is worth it to step up the the USB-C Charger/Cable combination, since I already have quite a few QC 2.0 (USB-A) Chargers...
Just for reference I was getting ~540 mA charging rate using a couple different Standard Qi Wireless chargers. I guess the same question could be asked about the Qi Rapid Chargers, has anybody measured the charging rate with Ampere for a comparison?
You don't get fast charging with usb c to usb c. Not sure why.
kench33 said:
You don't get fast charging with usb c to usb c. Not sure why.
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I am guessing you are referring to the International version (Exynos 8890) vs. the US Version (Snapdragon 820)? I am specifically interested in the US version since the specs do say it supports the USB 3.1 Standard, vs. the International one that only supports usb 2.0 specs. Although it is nice to know about the Int'l version as well.
excalfirst said:
I am guessing you are referring to the International version (Exynos 8890) vs. the US Version (Snapdragon 820)? I am specifically interested in the US version since the specs do say it supports the USB 3.1 Standard, vs. the International one that only supports usb 2.0 specs. Although it is nice to know about the Int'l version as well.
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Nope I own the sd820 version on Verizon. My charger that used to fast charge my 6p does not fast charge my note 7.
i could be wrong but it seems like the note 7 charges slower than my note 4 (edge)
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i could be wrong but it seems like the note 7 charges slower than my note 4 (edge)
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Note 7 does have a larger mah battery than the Note 4 edge so I'm sure that plays a factor.
aznmode said:
Note 7 does have a larger mah battery than the Note 4 edge so I'm sure that plays a factor.
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not by much yes but the note Edge (3220mAh) is charged in a hour to hour in a half the note 7 (3,500mAh) 2-3 hrs the note 7 battery life is good as hell though but takes longer to charge like a none fast charge rate but is fast charge but it never gets hot so maybe thermal controls?
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Nope I own the sd820 version on Verizon. My charger that used to fast charge my 6p does not fast charge my note 7.
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Bummer, I was hoping it would take advantage of the USB 3.1 Standards.
Thanks for the reply.
I guess listing USB 3.1 in the specs doesn't really mean much...
kench33 said:
Nope I own the sd820 version on Verizon. My charger that used to fast charge my 6p does not fast charge my note 7.
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Bummer, I was hoping it would take advantage of the USB 3.1 Standards.
Thanks for the reply.
I guess listing USB 3.1 in the specs doesn't really mean much...
excalfirst said:
Bummer, I was hoping it would take advantage of the USB 3.1 Standards.
Thanks for the reply.
I guess listing USB 3.1 in the specs doesn't really mean much...
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Maybe it has something to do with the charger itself? Not sure, but if anyone is willing to give this combination a try. Curious myself.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IBESEB8/
And one of these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/w...ref=pdp_new_wl
excalfirst said:
Bummer, I was hoping it would take advantage of the USB 3.1 Standards.
Thanks for the reply.
I guess listing USB 3.1 in the specs doesn't really mean much...
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Something you should keep in mind is that USB 3.0 is Type-C as well. 3.1 is just a update spec for it.
If you’ve been paying attention to the world of USB, you may have heard of the announcements of USB 3.1 and USB Type-C. But what’s the difference? Which one do you need? And how are they different from USB 3.0 or even 2.0? Let’s break it down.
What is USB Type-C?
Over the years, the USB connection has taken on many forms. The rectangular port you’re most familiar is called USB Type-A. The blocky, almost square port used in many large peripherals like printers is USB Type-B. Add micro and mini versions of each of these into the fold and suddenly you’ve got a half dozen connection type and a recipe for confusion.
One thing to note, because announcements of Type-C connections have come hand in hand with USB 3.1, many people assume they’re the same, or at the very least that all Type-C runs on the 3.1 spec. This is not the case. Remember, Type-C is the connection type and may actually run on a lesser spec – USB 2.0 even – so don’t assume you’ll be getting all that 3.1 goodness just because you see that tiny reversible port.
What is USB 3.1?
USB Type-A and a USB Type C side-by-side in harmony
USB 3.1 (aka USB 3.1/gen 2) is the successor to USB 3.0. Identifiable by its bright turquois port, USB 3.1 doubles the transfer speed of 3.0 to a whopping 10 Gbps. USB Power Delivery 2.0 makes a big step forward as well with up to 100W of power. And like previous versions of USB, it is fully backwards compatible with its predecessors.
Source: http://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/usb-3-1-vs-usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-whats-the-difference/
According to Phone Arena it's USB Type-C Spec 3.1 Gen 1
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-7_id10024
DeadPhoenix said:
Something you should keep in mind is that USB 3.0 is Type-C as well. 3.1 is just a update spec for it.
If you’ve been paying attention to the world of USB, you may have heard of the announcements of USB 3.1 and USB Type-C. But what’s the difference? Which one do you need? And how are they different from USB 3.0 or even 2.0? Let’s break it down.
What is USB Type-C?
Over the years, the USB connection has taken on many forms. The rectangular port you’re most familiar is called USB Type-A. The blocky, almost square port used in many large peripherals like printers is USB Type-B. Add micro and mini versions of each of these into the fold and suddenly you’ve got a half dozen connection type and a recipe for confusion.
One thing to note, because announcements of Type-C connections have come hand in hand with USB 3.1, many people assume they’re the same, or at the very least that all Type-C runs on the 3.1 spec. This is not the case. Remember, Type-C is the connection type and may actually run on a lesser spec – USB 2.0 even – so don’t assume you’ll be getting all that 3.1 goodness just because you see that tiny reversible port.
What is USB 3.1?
USB Type-A and a USB Type C side-by-side in harmony
USB 3.1 (aka USB 3.1/gen 2) is the successor to USB 3.0. Identifiable by its bright turquois port, USB 3.1 doubles the transfer speed of 3.0 to a whopping 10 Gbps. USB Power Delivery 2.0 makes a big step forward as well with up to 100W of power. And like previous versions of USB, it is fully backwards compatible with its predecessors.
Source: http://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/usb-3-1-vs-usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-whats-the-difference/
According to Phone Arena it's USB Type-C Spec 3.1 Gen 1
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-7_id10024
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I was familiar with the excellent recap of the USB standards you posted. Thanks for posting since others may not be familiar.
So, When a vendor lists a spec such as USB 3.1 it only means it supports that specific data rate and the voltage that it charges at, is up to the vendor? I have read that the USB 3.0 and 3.1 specs are identical in the supported voltages. But I would guess that as far as supported voltages go, in the USB specs, it is totally up to the vendor as to which rates they choose to use. It just seems odd to me that you can actually charge faster with USB-A 2.0 "Rapid Charge" than with USB-C straight up.
excalfirst said:
I was familiar with the excellent recap of the USB standards you posted. Thanks for posting since others may not be familiar.
So, When a vendor lists a spec such as USB 3.1 it only means it supports that specific data rate and the voltage that it charges at, is up to the vendor? I have read that the USB 3.0 and 3.1 specs are identical in the supported voltages. But I would guess that as far as supported voltages go, in the USB specs, it is totally up to the vendor as to which rates they choose to use. It just seems odd to me that you can actually charge faster with USB-A 2.0 "Rapid Charge" than with USB-C straight up.
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I have read of 5.0v and 2.3v versions of 3.0 and 3.1. This may be a manufacturer design option. Type, power and speed specification.

Question 45W Charging requirements have changed?

Alright so I've got my S22U in, and it appears that the charging requirements for 45W Fast charging have changed relative to the Note 10+ I did have. Neither of my two chargers that previously charged the Note 10 at full speed charge my S22U at full speed. There is no "Super Fast Charging 2.0" indication on my display when I connect the chargers. So something has changed. Kind of a disappointment on my end, since there was no good reason to change standards/requirements. Does anyone have a new 45W adapter, yet?
I have the Spigen ARC 45w charger and even though it doesn't say "Super Fast Charging 2.0" (only without the 2.0) it charges at exactly the same speed as the original new samsung 45w charger (where it says 2.0) used in this test:
Alright I found someone on Verizon's website saying that the output voltage on the EP-T4510 charger goes up to 20V whereas my chargers only hit about 11V, even under PPS. So the Ultra requires a higher 20V voltage to get up to 45W, where my Note 10+ only required 11V to hit 45W. Makes sense now.
Verizon Review of Samsung 45W New Charger
The new charger has PPS [email protected] 2.25A. The old charger had PPS [email protected] 4.1A. If you were using the old charger, you need a 5A cable. There hasn't been enough testing with real volt/power meters to see what's going on, because all these youtube trash reviewers are just plugging something random in and measuring the time it takes to charge.
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The new charger has PPS [email protected] 2.25A. The old charger had PPS [email protected] 4.1A. If you were using the old charger, you need a 5A cable. There hasn't been enough testing with real volt/power meters to see what's going on, because all these youtube trash reviewers are just plugging something random in and measuring the time it takes to charge.
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Yeah with the old charger I was using a Thunderbolt 3 cable rated for the full 100W charge spec (20V/5A) so the cable itself is def good.
EDIT - I just tried another USB-C cable, and got the 2.0 notification. So check the cables for sure. THanks for the hint.
Hi guys
I'm using Samsung 45W charger; EP-TA845XBEGWW. It delivers 21VDC at 2.1A, this gives 21x2.1= 44.1W and It's works perfectly for changing my S22 Ultra. It also got a lot of other charging modes, it runs PDO or PPS. USB type C in both ends. Hope this helps.
Regards DeHAWK
DeHAWK said:
Hi guys
I'm using Samsung 45W charger; EP-TA845XBEGWW. It delivers 21VDC at 2.1A, this gives 21x2.1= 44.1W and It's works perfectly for changing my S22 Ultra. It also got a lot of other charging modes, it runs PDO or PPS. USB type C in both ends. Hope this helps.
Regards DeHAWK
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Yeah in my case it was a cable issue. The same cable that worked perfectly on the N10+ no longer supports 45W speeds on the S22U. So I am going to seek out new cables I guess. Thanks.
I bought this charger from Amazon.ca and according to the specs it outputs 21 volts @ 2.25 amps so should be able meet the 45 watt max charging capability of the phone. It's very compact. I'll verify when I receive the phone.
Anker USB C Charger, 713 Charger
hand-filer said:
I bought this charger from Amazon.ca and according to the specs it outputs 21 volts @ 2.25 amps so should be able meet the 45 watt max charging capability of the phone. It's very compact. I'll verify when I receive the phone.
Anker USB C Charger, 713 Charger
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If it doesn't check your cables.
Use this 100w/5a usb-c cable (https://amzn.to/351pBUQ) with the Samsung 45w charger (EP-TA845XWEGUS) and it shows "Super fast charging 2.0". If you don't use the write cable you won't get the "2.0" type of charging.
I also got this charger hub from Amazon (https://amzn.to/3hcjnnu) using the same 100w/5a cables and it shows "Super fast charging 2.0". Nearly the same prices as the Samsung charger, but can do more. Works perfect for families as a charging hub. This was verified on both a new Samsung S22 Ultra and my old Samsung S20 Ultra.
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The new charger has PPS [email protected] 2.25A. The old charger had PPS [email protected] 4.1A. If you were using the old charger, you need a 5A cable. There hasn't been enough testing with real volt/power meters to see what's going on, because all these youtube trash reviewers are just plugging something random in and measuring the time it takes to charge.
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I performed a test with a real ammeter today, results here:
Note that I used a 3rd party PPS charger.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS22/comments/szsmos

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