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[Q] Galaxy S5 fast charge?

Hello
What do I need to get Fast Charge?

a charger.

bloodrain954 said:
a charger.
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Lol!!!!

MariosFFX said:
Hello
What do I need to get Fast Charge?
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fast charge is generally a feature that needs to be built into a custom kernel

Don't know about you but my S5 chargers incredibly fast compared to my SIII and Nexus 7. Even with fast charge on.

Agree, my S5 charges at 1.2A given a charger capable of this, and that is fast.

timrichardson said:
Agree, my S5 charges at 1.2A given a charger capable of this, and that is fast.
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correction S5 chargers are shipped with a 2.0A chargers and it charges at that rate.

jucytec said:
correction S5 chargers are shipped with a 2.0A chargers and it charges at that rate.
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Yes, the S5 charges at 2amp. (Kernel reports 1800mah)
If your phone is reporting that it charges any slower than that, it's an energy deficiency of the charger supply, bad cable, or bad micro usb connection.

I use an app which reports charging current. With a standard micro usb cable i never morw than 1200 mA (and about 450 mA from a PC/mac usb plug)
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While it's true that the phone ships with a 2A charger, the charging current does not exceed 1.2A AFAIK.

Gotta love MicroUSB 3.0.

It already charges from under 10% to 100% in a mere 2 something hours (bundled charger and USB 3 cable). You want something much faster than that???

nikhilmulay said:
While it's true that the phone ships with a 2A charger, the charging current does not exceed 1.2A AFAIK.
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Yes I think in the end it is something around this current. What the apps report is more "charging in 1800mA mode" and not really charging with continous/real 1800mA. If you like to know more exactly what the current is you may write down time/percentage values for e.g. every 5% of battery power starting with an nearly empty battery. Then you can draw an line of the effective loading current.
With the original charger you should be able to get stable 1800mA but if the loading circuit of the S5 really goes this high I did not check.

I believe it peaks at 1800mah with the screen off. It is 1200 mah limited when screen is on.

Sorry to awaken this post.
As most of you, my S5 reported charging at stable 1200 mA with wall charger, probably 1800mA when turned off.
But, I can say a custom rom unleash battery charging in the same conditions as stock rom. I get stable 1800 mA with LineageOS, even screen on, with original charger and usb 2 or usb 3 cable.

Can this phone support or charge with a 5v 3.5 amp charger? Is it faster? ZeroLemon

Next week getting a new Note 4 - and zerolemon 10,000mah battery!
I need to deep cycle battery 6-8 times to get phone to display the current vbbatt % correctly. The manufacturer for zerolemon says turn off fast charge and charge 12hrs each time.
That being said, with fast charge off, can I use a 5v 3.5 amp charger I see on amazon and possibly charge the phone faster than 12 hrs like normal is using a 2.1 amp charger?
Anyone tried this with let's say even the stock battery does the battery actually charge faster due to the increased amps or would it be a waste and still charges at the slower 2.1 amps?

I never deep cycled the battery and the longest discharge I got was 1 week with 16 hours on screen time...you just need to make sure you use an updated kernel with the zL fix.

The amperage rating is the max the charger can put out. The Note will draw the same amperage on either charger because they are both 5V.

ackliph said:
The amperage rating is the max the charger can put out. The Note will draw the same amperage on either charger because they are both 5V.
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But will the phone charge faster on 3.5 amps at 5v vs the 1.5 amp or 2.1 amp the stock charger puts out? I am getting ZeroLemon and need to deep cycle the battery a few times and am trying to have it fully charged in less than the standard 12 hrs - was hoping a charger with more amps would cut down on the 12 hrs lol
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WN86VYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3RPN0HBLXDN8Z

i just used the stock fast charger on my zerolemmon with fast charge on and i never let it go the full 1 hours. Ive had insane battery life with it so i dont think it matters

drtechnology said:
But will the phone charge faster on 3.5 amps at 5v vs the 1.5 amp or 2.1 amp the stock charger puts out? I am getting ZeroLemon and need to deep cycle the battery a few times and am trying to have it fully charged in less than the standard 12 hrs - was hoping a charger with more amps would cut down on the 12 hrs lol
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WN86VYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3RPN0HBLXDN8Z
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Your Note 4 will draw a maximum of 1.9A on a 5V standard charger and a maximum of 1.66A on a 9V Quickcharger. If you multiply these values, you will get your "charging speed" in Watts: The maximum is 9.5W on normal charger and 15W on a quick charger.
Using a higher rated normal charger (eg 5V/3A) will NOT INCREASE charging speed. The Note 4 will never draw more than 1.9A on 5V.
Using a lower rated normal charger (eg 5V/1A) WILL DECREASE the charging speed. The Note 4 will notice that it cannot get 1.9A from the charger and drop the current. Bad and/or long cables can also influence the charging speed negatively.
Also noteworthy: Quick charging will only work when screen is off. As soon as you turn your screen on, the charging speed when connected to a quick charger will drop from 15W to an extremely slow 5W. The only fix for this horrible Samsung joke is a custom ROM like CyanogenMod.
You can charge your Zerolemon battery nicely with the original Quickcharger that came with the phone. That will do 15W and is as fast as you can possibly charge.

joeuser said:
Your Note 4 will draw a maximum of 1.9A on a 5V standard charger and a maximum of 1.66A on a 9V Quickcharger. If you multiply these values, you will get your "charging speed" in Watts: The maximum is 9.5W on normal charger and 15W on a quick charger.
Using a higher rated normal charger (eg 5V/3A) will NOT INCREASE charging speed. The Note 4 will never draw more than 1.9A on 5V.
Using a lower rated normal charger (eg 5V/1A) WILL DECREASE the charging speed. The Note 4 will notice that it cannot get 1.9A from the charger and drop the current. Bad and/or long cables can also influence the charging speed negatively.
Also noteworthy: Quick charging will only work when screen is off. As soon as you turn your screen on, the charging speed when connected to a quick charger will drop from 15W to an extremely slow 5W. The only fix for this horrible Samsung joke is a custom ROM like CyanogenMod.
You can charge your Zerolemon battery nicely with the original Quickcharger that came with the phone. That will do 15W and is as fast as you can possibly charge.
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Wow. Good info. Thx. Now a ton with a hack to draw more amps lol. Hmmmm lolol

Faster charging?

i recently bought the P900 (wifi version).
full charge will take around 5 hours, which in practice translates to 4 hours (i never get to 0% and charging from 90%\95% and on will be slowed down by the device anyway).
is there any way to speed up the charging?
like buying a 5.3V 3A charger. will the OEM cable be able to transfer the additional current?
could the device even take advantage from a 3A charger?
if so, can you recommend on any?
its important to me because i always use 100% brightness.

No. In the past mobile devices (mostly phones) shipped with cheap 500ma chargers and bumping up to higher amperage chargers would have an affect on charge time. Those days are gone as charging efficiency of chargers and cost to produce have lead to included chargers being optimized for charging times. Charging circuitry in the devices is going to take what it's rated to take and no more, so once a charger is plugged into it that's rated the same as the device is designed to take there's little else that can be done to speed up charging.
Bottom line - the charger that came with the tablet if it's the official one (i.e. if you bought new, not used and someone included the wrong one) is optimized to charge the tablet at the fastest rate. Based upon the numbers you noted your charge times are not excessive, the tablet is designed to take around 2A and it won't take 3A even if the charger is rated for it.
If you want faster charging you need to sell your tablet and get a Snapdragon variant instead (LTE tablets from various carriers) or start practicing better battery management to reduce how depleted your tablet gets. For me that means not running at highest brightness unless I really need it and topping off the battery whenever I can. When I get really low and I have a reasonably long period that I can charge I'll sometimes shut the tablet completely down rather than put it to sleep so that charging is accomplished with near zero load on the battery.

oh, bummer.
well, i guess i would have to learn how to live with that.
TY for your reply.

im planning on buying a 2 port charger so i wont have to carry so many stuff with me,
how much slower the device will charge with a 5.0V charger?
should i look for a 2 port 5.3v charger? a normal device wont have troubles with that?

It's not the voltage it's the amps. If you want to charge two devices simultaneously as quickly as possible the power supply needs to be rated to output the wattage necessary to provide the amperage the devices will draw for maximum charge rate.
My recommendation is to find something capable of over 20 watts (2A x 5V = 20watts). I'd buy this for future Qualcomm quick charge use.
https://www.anker.com/products/A2031111
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my question was how much slower the note pro will charge with a 5.0v 2A charger as opposed to the OEM one which is 5.3v 2A.
and if there is any problem to use a 5.3v charger with a normal smartphone.
charging the note pro is more important to me than my other devices.

Yonany said:
my question was how much slower the note pro will charge with a 5.0v 2A charger as opposed to the OEM one which is 5.3v 2A.
and if there is any problem to use a 5.3v charger with a normal smartphone.
charging the note pro is more important to me than my other devices.
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Yes but you also noted that you want to buy a 2 port version and I'm saying that the voltage is only part of the equation. Unless you are already aware that you need one rated at 2A simultaneously (you didn't specify). I honestly never measured between the two, I do not worry about 5V vs 5.3V since the charging voltage of the lithium ion cells is under 5V anyway. AFAIK the current is more critical. Maybe someone else more knowledgeable in electrical engineering can chime in since I'm unsure how the charging circuit within the phone will step down the voltage from the charger to the battery. All I know is if one tops off regularly or charges overnight there's no night and day difference between the stock 5.3V charger and a 5V one so long as the aftermarket one is rated 2A or more.
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Question How do you get 25W charging?

I tried using two approved chargers. The Anker Nano II and official samsung 25W charger. Getting capped at 15W. Am I doing something wrong?

chanmanx2k said:
I tried using two approved chargers. The Anker Nano II and official samsung 25W charger. Getting capped at 15W. Am I doing something wrong?
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Same here, I don't think it'll ever go to 25W. One of those Samsung unfulfilled wishes? Am using the original 25W charger and DevCheck Pro readout shows oscillating wattage between 18.8-17.3(battery level ~35%) Maybe they could fix it w/OTA software?

chanmanx2k said:
I tried using two approved chargers. The Anker Nano II and official samsung 25W charger. Getting capped at 15W. Am I doing something wrong?
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I use this charger and the screen-on charging value goes up to 4 Amps (as reported by Accubattery) so I guess this is the perfect charger for 25W charging. Also in the specifications, the rating is mentioned; some are very near to 25W.
If you want to figure out the wattage use the simple formula W=V*I where W=wattage in watts, V=voltage in volts and I=current in amps.

ap6709 said:
I use this charger and the screen-on charging value goes up to 4 Amps (as reported by Accubattery) so I guess this is the perfect charger for 25W charging.
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Been using the very same EP-TA800 adapter, "25W" as Samsung misinterprets it because it only goes to 18W max or so: (started at 26%, second pic 45min later)

You are right, I can confirm also that the 25 watt charging is just gimmick.
When your phone are low battery (under 30%) you only get 25 watt of power pulled from your charger for a minute or so.
Then the continue charging speed are about 18 watt.
With AccuBattery pro app, after several various charging time, I get average of charging speed = 90% per hour
Usually I charge my battery from 20% to 85% in 44 minutes. With phone screen off about 30mins.

You can also check what charging levels you are supporting by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery -> More battery settings
Just a heads up for anyone not coming from the Z Flip 3, though, that Samsung reset the evolution of USB-C on the series. The Z Flip 3 launched with 3.1 and 15W, while most other phones were 3.2 and 45W charging.
If you follow Samsung's upgrades, you may already know that the difference in capacity between the Z Flip 3 and Z Flip 4 is 400mAh. Ironically, the difference between the S9 (15W) and S10 5G (25W) when 25W released was also 400mAh.
Samsung's linear progress aside, the charging difference is only noticeable in the first hour. You can read more about it at https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/02/how-fast-is-samsung-25w-super-fast-charging where they compared the standards in depth.

Question Do the wall wart and cable matter?

I have some Anker brand USB-A to USB-C charging cables and just the wall wart (is there a technical name for those things?) from something... probably one of my old Samsung phones... it says "Adaptive fast charging" and output says "9.0 V === 1.67A or 5.0 V === 2.0 A".
( know that stands for "volts" and "amps", but I don't understand what the rest of it means... 2 Amps is "faster" than 1.67 Amps... I think... but what makes it charge at one speed or the other?)
My real questions:
1) Will using the USB-A to USB-A cable that came WITH the Galaxy S22 Ultra make a difference in charging speed?
2) Do I need to get a different "wall wart"? If I want one that supports USB-C plugging into it, I do, but will it gain me anything?
Thanks.
Edit: I guess tehnically it's an "AC Adapter" or a "power supply brick"...?

See how what you have now performs. The best/fully compatible would be Samsung own charger. And any decent quality cables

I use my original charger from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on my S22 ultra. It charges it about 90 minutes. I suspect this is the same charger as yours.
1.67amps x 9v is 15.03watts.
5.00apms x 5v is 10.00watts.
15 Watts is a nice steady rate to be charging your battery at.
45w...is really too fast if you want your battery to last more than 2 years.

pjaysnowden said:
I use my original charger from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on my S22 ultra. It charges it about 90 minutes. I suspect this is the same charger as yours.
1.67amps x 9v is 15.03watts.
5.00apms x 5v is 10.00watts.
15 Watts is a nice steady rate to be charging your battery at.
45w...is really too fast if you want your battery to last more than 2 years.
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45W is nothing and won't really degrade your battery much. Also, keep in mind, that batteries degrade regardless if you use them or not, they have a shelf life. So, in 2-3 years you will mostly need to replace your battery anyway if you plan to keep your phone for that long (assuming that you want the battery to be at it's "full" capacity after 2-3 years).

ekin_strops said:
45W is nothing and won't really degrade your battery much. Also, keep in mind, that batteries degrade regardless if you use them or not, they have a shelf life. So, in 2-3 years you will mostly need to replace your battery anyway if you plan to keep your phone for that long.
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Even still...I'll keep slow charging my phone...knowing that it will last 5 years.
My note 4 battery outlasted the actual phone. The touch screen packed up first. The battery still lasted 6 hours screen on.
I replaced it with a Note 9. Again...the battery was fine...and original. Same story...6 hours of screen on time.
Now I have a Note 22....or S22 Ultra.
I have used the Note 4's charger for all of these phones...with my 10watt Kosee wireless charger. Even on the Note 4...with a wireless adapter.

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45W is nothing...
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It's still 10 Amperes into the battery.
I'm often running ~10 Amperes into my dual 224 Ampere-hour 6 Volt "golf cart" batteries.
They also weigh about 130 pounds more than your battery!

Renate said:
It's still 10 Amperes into the battery.
I'm often running ~10 Amperes into my dual 224 Ampere-hour 6 Volt "golf cart" batteries.
They also weigh about 130 pounds more than your battery!
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It doesn't push 10 Amperes into the battery.
PPS charging is pushing from 3.3V to 20 Volts at 2.25Amps, it's dynamic charging and it depends on the device's state (temperature of the battery, the charger, the capacity of the battery).
I'm not sure where you get this information, and not trying to be rude now but maybe you should check up on both PD and PPS charging protocols that Samsung uses before assuming it's charging at 10 amps.

Dougmeister said:
I have some Anker brand USB-A to USB-C charging cables and just the wall wart (is there a technical name for those things?) from something... probably one of my old Samsung phones... it says "Adaptive fast charging" and output says "9.0 V === 1.67A or 5.0 V === 2.0 A".
( know that stands for "volts" and "amps", but I don't understand what the rest of it means... 2 Amps is "faster" than 1.67 Amps... I think... but what makes it charge at one speed or the other?)
My real questions:
1) Will using the USB-A to USB-A cable that came WITH the Galaxy S22 Ultra make a difference in charging speed?
2) Do I need to get a different "wall wart"? If I want one that supports USB-C plugging into it, I do, but will it gain me anything?
Thanks.
Edit: I guess tehnically it's an "AC Adapter" or a "power supply brick"...?
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1. With Galaxy S22 there is an USB-C to USB-C cable not USB-A (maybe a typo on your side). That cable is rated for the full power charge the device supports, that is 45w. It can make a difference if you are using it with a proper charger (that's the actual naming for the "wall wart"...it is called "charger" or "wall charger" btw).
2. Yes, you should get a different one if you wanna charge faster. Your actual charger is a (so called) "fast" charger with the charging power varying from 15W to 10W. Your phone supports from 25W up to 45W, that are the "ultra fast" chargers.
I'd suggest to get at least a 25W charger, also there are some extremely good Anker alternatives (even better that original Samsung chargers), look for Nano II 635 or 615 Anker chargers.
If you wanna keep your phone for an extended period (like 4-5 years or more), you might wanna activate that battery protection charge that only charges it till 85% and will preserve it for a longer period. If you switch phones after 2, even 3 years, don't bother, charge it as you like fast or slow till 100%

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I'm not sure where you get this information...
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If the charger is rated at 45 Watts and sometimes actually delivers that:
45 Watts / (maximum) 4.3 Volt battery > 10 Amperes
Maybe they are PWM-ing it or whatever, but the peak current is > 10 Amperes.
Ok, we can subtract the efficiency of the buck converter, but it's still in that neighborhood.

What would happen if I bought and used a 65-watt charger? Would it automatically drop down to 45 watts to charge my S22 Ultra? Could it damage it, etc.?

Dougmeister said:
What would happen if I bought and used a 65-watt charger? Would it automatically drop down to 45 watts to charge my S22 Ultra? Could it damage it, etc.?
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1.Q. Yes.
2.Q. It not gonna damage it if not pushed to full 100% or discharged completely before connecting.

Sorry to hijack this thread, but is there a decent wireless charger, that will give me fast wireless charging with a Spigen powerarc arcstation pro 65w charger? I have tried about 3-4 cheap crap ones, and they all give reg wireless charging of about 22% for an hour's charge.

The S22U‘s maximum wireless charging rate is only 15 watts. I use the Spigen PowerArc ArcField 15 watt wireless charger, which is powered by a conventional charger via USB C cable and works very well charging my S22U.