Alright so I've got my S22U in, and it appears that the charging requirements for 45W Fast charging have changed relative to the Note 10+ I did have. Neither of my two chargers that previously charged the Note 10 at full speed charge my S22U at full speed. There is no "Super Fast Charging 2.0" indication on my display when I connect the chargers. So something has changed. Kind of a disappointment on my end, since there was no good reason to change standards/requirements. Does anyone have a new 45W adapter, yet?
I have the Spigen ARC 45w charger and even though it doesn't say "Super Fast Charging 2.0" (only without the 2.0) it charges at exactly the same speed as the original new samsung 45w charger (where it says 2.0) used in this test:
Alright I found someone on Verizon's website saying that the output voltage on the EP-T4510 charger goes up to 20V whereas my chargers only hit about 11V, even under PPS. So the Ultra requires a higher 20V voltage to get up to 45W, where my Note 10+ only required 11V to hit 45W. Makes sense now.
Verizon Review of Samsung 45W New Charger
The new charger has PPS [email protected] 2.25A. The old charger had PPS [email protected] 4.1A. If you were using the old charger, you need a 5A cable. There hasn't been enough testing with real volt/power meters to see what's going on, because all these youtube trash reviewers are just plugging something random in and measuring the time it takes to charge.
craznazn said:
The new charger has PPS [email protected] 2.25A. The old charger had PPS [email protected] 4.1A. If you were using the old charger, you need a 5A cable. There hasn't been enough testing with real volt/power meters to see what's going on, because all these youtube trash reviewers are just plugging something random in and measuring the time it takes to charge.
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Yeah with the old charger I was using a Thunderbolt 3 cable rated for the full 100W charge spec (20V/5A) so the cable itself is def good.
EDIT - I just tried another USB-C cable, and got the 2.0 notification. So check the cables for sure. THanks for the hint.
Hi guys
I'm using Samsung 45W charger; EP-TA845XBEGWW. It delivers 21VDC at 2.1A, this gives 21x2.1= 44.1W and It's works perfectly for changing my S22 Ultra. It also got a lot of other charging modes, it runs PDO or PPS. USB type C in both ends. Hope this helps.
Regards DeHAWK
DeHAWK said:
Hi guys
I'm using Samsung 45W charger; EP-TA845XBEGWW. It delivers 21VDC at 2.1A, this gives 21x2.1= 44.1W and It's works perfectly for changing my S22 Ultra. It also got a lot of other charging modes, it runs PDO or PPS. USB type C in both ends. Hope this helps.
Regards DeHAWK
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Yeah in my case it was a cable issue. The same cable that worked perfectly on the N10+ no longer supports 45W speeds on the S22U. So I am going to seek out new cables I guess. Thanks.
I bought this charger from Amazon.ca and according to the specs it outputs 21 volts @ 2.25 amps so should be able meet the 45 watt max charging capability of the phone. It's very compact. I'll verify when I receive the phone.
Anker USB C Charger, 713 Charger
hand-filer said:
I bought this charger from Amazon.ca and according to the specs it outputs 21 volts @ 2.25 amps so should be able meet the 45 watt max charging capability of the phone. It's very compact. I'll verify when I receive the phone.
Anker USB C Charger, 713 Charger
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If it doesn't check your cables.
Use this 100w/5a usb-c cable (https://amzn.to/351pBUQ) with the Samsung 45w charger (EP-TA845XWEGUS) and it shows "Super fast charging 2.0". If you don't use the write cable you won't get the "2.0" type of charging.
I also got this charger hub from Amazon (https://amzn.to/3hcjnnu) using the same 100w/5a cables and it shows "Super fast charging 2.0". Nearly the same prices as the Samsung charger, but can do more. Works perfect for families as a charging hub. This was verified on both a new Samsung S22 Ultra and my old Samsung S20 Ultra.
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The new charger has PPS [email protected] 2.25A. The old charger had PPS [email protected] 4.1A. If you were using the old charger, you need a 5A cable. There hasn't been enough testing with real volt/power meters to see what's going on, because all these youtube trash reviewers are just plugging something random in and measuring the time it takes to charge.
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I performed a test with a real ammeter today, results here:
Note that I used a 3rd party PPS charger.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS22/comments/szsmos
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Hi All,
I am not an expert and hence seeking suggestions.
I have Xiaomi 120W Power Adapter (with wireless which can also be used as wired) and wondering if I can use for the S22 Ultra (Snapdragon version).
Thanks
If the power supports USB PD PPS it will charge at up to 45 W. If it only supports USB PD it will charge up to 15 W. And if it doesn't support USB PD at all, it will charge between 5 and 10 W.
It should be noted on the power adapter itself whether it supports PPS
My Huawei 65W USB-C PD charger used with the Honor Magicbook 14 charges at a report "Superfast" rate but that means anything above 20W. Of course there isn't a measured difference between a 25W and a 45W charger according to GSM Arena so YMMV.
Thanks all. As per this article it does
Xiaomi 120W Power Adapter Supports QC5 and USB PD + PPS Over USB-A Port
Xiaomi 120W Power Adapter Supports QC5 and USB PD + PPS Over USB-A Port
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Hopefully no damage to the phone.
Does "Super Fast Charging 2.0" mean it's charging at 45W?
What is it if it's just "Super Fast Charging"?
Only one of my many third party chargers seems to show 2.0
chistery said:
Does "Super Fast Charging 2.0" mean it's charging at 45W?
What is it if it's just "Super Fast Charging"?
Only one of my many third party chargers seems to show 2.0
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Superfast 2.0 means anything above 25W I believe.
Super Fast Charging I think is between 15 and 25W.
Both of these would be potential speeds, as the phones won't charge at max rate from 0-100%. The rate starts slow at 0%, rises slowly to max, then starts dropping between 60 and 80%, falling to 0 charge rate as the battery reaches 100%
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Superfast 2.0 means anything above 25W I believe.
Super Fast Charging I think is between 15 and 25W.
Both of these would be potential speeds, as the phones won't charge at max rate from 0-100%. The rate starts slow at 0%, rises slowly to max, then starts dropping between 60 and 80%, falling to 0 charge rate as the battery reaches 100%
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Thanks. All these different standards get very confusing!
I would have expected my "Anker Powerport III 65W PPS charger" to show 2.0, but it doesn't. The "MINIX 66W Turbo 3-Port GaN Wall Charger" does.
chistery said:
Thanks. All these different standards get very confusing!
I would have expected my "Anker Powerport III 65W PPS charger" to show 2.0, but it doesn't. The "MINIX 66W Turbo 3-Port GaN Wall Charger" does.
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I just learned this myself, - but check your cables. The S22U is rated for 20V input, so it checks with the cable to make sure the cable can supply the correct power. USB-C cables have chips in them to identify the cable and its capability. If you use the cable that came with the phone you might get different results. I did for sure.
The PowerPort II also doesn't output the right voltage for the S22 from what I can understand. So there is that.
So... Phone is supposed to charge at 45W but, from what I've read, this is not really true...
I do not have the original 45W Samsung charger but a 3rd party multiport 90W charger, with 2 PD usb C and one A port.
Till yesterday I was using a standard usb C to C cable and phone would display "fast charging" with an estimate of 1h from 15% to 100%. Not really a good performance I'd say. Today I bought a certified 100W cable with a display showing charging speed (usb C to C). With this cable two things change: phone displays "fast charging 2.0" and charging speed has slightly improved: less than 1h from 12% to 100%. Still not fast enough for a 45W charging... And as a metter of fact after 5 minutes the display on the cable stops at 28W...
This matches with lots of articles that complain for the same problem...
I also have a Xiaomi 12 Pro with dedicated 120W charger + dedicated usb C to A cable (charger has A). I'm saying dedicated, because with any other cable (standard usb C to A or even the above 100W usb C to C with adapter) the Xiaomi displays "turbo charging" while with original dedicated Xiaomi cable it displays "120W max" and is indeed blazing fast: 15 min for a full charge!!!
What is strange is that if I use the Xiaomi 120W charger with dedicated cable on the s22 ultra, phone displays only "fast charging" without the "2.0".
Now... I'm not trying to compare charging speed of s22 ultra to 12 Pro: Xiaomi can achieve such a speed because the phones have two separated batteries that charge simultaneously, thanks to a power splitter that takes the 120W input and splits it into two 60W, one for each battery.
What I'd like to know is what's going on with the s22 ultra. I understand that a basic cable is not enough to deliver 45W, reason why I bought a better cable, yet I was expecting a big improvement, while it improved charging speed of less than 10 minutes. And as a matter of fact I've never seen 45W on the cable display. Maybe I need an original Samsung 45W charger instead of a 3rd party one?
Search the forum, there is a few topics regarding 45w charging... I have a 65w charger and 5a cable and the charger has all the necessary properties/charging formats needed to fast charge 2.0 the samsung, but it doesn't. i don't even get the fast charge 2.0 notification....In the end the difference between the 25w and 45w is very slim....will be a waste of money to purchase the 45w samsung charger....check the other discussion.....my charger takes basically an hour from 10-100%...it's good enough for now
Well good enough if not compared to the blazing fast xiaomi's 120w charge
Most of the time, it's only several minutes charging time difference when I have a "Super fast charging" charger or a "Super fast charging 2.0" charger connected. 45W charging seems to be over hyped by Samsung and it's not using full power to charge all the time.
I have the original new 45W charger and the phone charges from ~ 0% to 50% in approximately 20 minutes as advertised. It is faster by around 22% in comparison to the 25W fast charger between 0-50% state of charge. Afterwards they both charge in almost same way with the 45W charger being max 10 minutes faster by reaching 100%. You need a PD & PPS charger. There are only some 3rd party ones that manage to do same as checked by androidpolice:
Best 45W chargers for the Samsung Galaxy S22+ & S22 Ultra in 2023
Time for a refill for your Samsung S22+ or S22 Ultra. These 45W chargers can help
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buddy66 said:
I have the original new 45W charger and the phone charges from ~ 0% to 50% in approximately 20 minutes as advertised. It is faster by around 22% in comparison to the 25W fast charger between 0-50% state of charge. Afterwards they both charge in almost same way with the 45W charger being max 10 minutes faster by reaching 100%. You need a PD & PPS charger. There are only some 3rd party ones that manage to do same as checked by androidpolice:
Best 45W chargers for the Samsung Galaxy S22+ & S22 Ultra in 2023
Time for a refill for your Samsung S22+ or S22 Ultra. These 45W chargers can help
www.androidpolice.com
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My charger is compatible with FC 2.0 but as I said it depends on the cable. Real problem is that 10 mins faster between 25W and 45W is a real joke. Given this phones is energy hungry then... With the Xiaomi 12 Pro I don't even care: 5 mins and I get 30% of charge, although you need proprietary charger and cable
thegios said:
My charger is compatible with FC 2.0 but as I said it depends on the cable. Real problem is that 10 mins faster between 25W and 45W is a real joke. Given this phones is energy hungry then... With the Xiaomi 12 Pro I don't even care: 5 mins and I get 30% of charge, although you need proprietary charger and cable
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It depends on what you want. For example I am perfectly happy with my 25W charger which comes rarely in use because of me charging wirelessly and without fast charging over the night but I bought the 45W one to have the possibility to get that extra speed between 0 and 50, and my girlfriend gets my old 25W one for her base S22. Samsung has a different approach to fast charging and for me 120W on Xiaomi or 150W on Oppo/OnePlus is something I do not need although I am curious why Samsung did not make the same move yet. Just split the cells in two or three, give each cell a maximum of 25W and boom, you're in the mix and nobody will complain.
On the other hand they lied to us about last gen 45W charger which was useless so it is fair to say that their battery & charging department is almost on the same bad level as the Exynos software team if not actually worse than them
buddy66 said:
It depends on what you want. For example I am perfectly happy with my 25W charger which comes rarely in use because of me charging wirelessly and without fast charging over the night but I bought the 45W one to have the possibility to get that extra speed between 0 and 50, and my girlfriend gets my old 25W one for her base S22. Samsung has a different approach to fast charging and for me 120W on Xiaomi or 150W on Oppo/OnePlus is something I do not need although I am curious why Samsung did not make the same move yet. Just split the cells in two or three, give each cell a maximum of 25W and boom, you're in the mix and nobody will complain.
On the other hand they lied to us about last gen 45W charger which was useless so it is fair to say that their battery & charging department is almost on the same bad level as the Exynos software team if not actually worse than them
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2 cells is exactly what Xiaomi does
Reg Samsung, that's my point: they indeed lie, it's not a 45W phone. Full stop.
I have two Super Fast Samsung 25 watt chargers. One for my S22U and One for my Tab S7+ and both can charge in under an hour. 45 watt chargeers just wasting your money, and extra wear on the battery for a tiny bit of improvement. Not worth it to me.
Hi,
Does the USB cable which is inside the box, support fast charge or I need to buy a new cable to enjoy 45w power delivery fast charge?
Thanks for your reply
It does. it might be a hit and miss unless a Samsung charger
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It does. it might be a hit and miss unless a Samsung charger
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I'm not buying a Samsung charger, so should I buy a new cable?
Actually, I am planning to buy one of these chargers, which one do you think is better? more powerful?
https://www.aukey.com/products/omnia-duo-65w-dual-port-pd-charger-with-dynamic-detect
https://www.ravpower.com/products/rp-pc133-pd-gan-65wusb-c-wall-charger#!
https://ldnio.com/products/a2620c-65w-pd-qc-3-0-usb-type-c-high-power-charger-adapter
https://www.aukey.com/products/aukey-pa-b3-omnia-65w-fast-usb-c-charger
Any charger that supports PPS will do fine. The USB cable should have an emarker circuit (the boxed cable does).
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Any charger that supports PPS will do fine. The USB cable should have an emarker circuit (the boxed cable does).
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I couldn't find whether the adaptors above, do support pps or nor! Have you got any suggestions?
I suppose you could look for reviews or discussions on those particular adapters or search for detailed specifications. Or search Amazon or generally for adapters with keywords PD 3.0 and PPS. Most modern power adapters usually specifically point out PPS support in their specs.
SloPoke23 said:
I suppose you could look for reviews or discussions on those particular adapters or search for detailed specifications. Or search Amazon or generally for adapters with keywords PD 3.0 and PPS. Most modern power adapters usually specifically point out PPS support in their specs.
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The links above do not include any information whether these chargers support pps, although they are good gadgets.
I have had issues with trying to find a 45watt charger which will charge the S22u at the Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. I probably ordered 5 different chargers and none of them would work @45 watts even though they supported the PD 3.0 PPS standard. When I contacted one company support team they said Samsung tweaked the PPS standard for the S22u.
As it turned out, I had an Elecjet 65w charger that charges my S22u at the 45w Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. While they no longer sell that charger, they have a newer 45w version that does support the S22u (several Amazon reviews confirmed this).
https://www.amazon.com/ELECJET-Charging-Charger-Compatible-Samsung/dp/B084Q2CZG6/ref=mp_s_a_1_11_sspa?crid=1TAJ5U5PIBF89&keywords=65w+phone+charger+elecjet&qid=1655176242&sprefix=65w+phone+charger+elecjet%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-11-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFOVFcxMEYwMjBSOTgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzOTAyMzYxUlJDM0ZGUk1ZUzI4JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MTI5MzIyTjE2VzRCQVZCTktQJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Links to a car charger with PD + PPS would be good
7 And Still Growing said:
Links to a car charger with PD + PPS would be good
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I have this charger and it's fantastic; I get super fast charging through the usb c port, and regular fast charging through the usb a port.
AUKEY CC-A3 Dual-Port(USB-C/USB-A) Car Charger - 30W
Buy Our High-Speed Charging-Powerful Single Port 30w Charging for Smartphones, Tablets, and Even Small Laptops. Free Shipping on All Orders Over $25
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I've got 2 of these chargers which do Samsung Super Fast charging (25watt) from the Usb-c port and Fast Charging from the Usb-A port.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08YWLW6B2?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
jasin91 said:
I'm not buying a Samsung charger, so should I buy a new cable?
Actually, I am planning to buy one of these chargers, which one do you think is better? more powerful?
https://www.aukey.com/products/omnia-duo-65w-dual-port-pd-charger-with-dynamic-detect
https://www.ravpower.com/products/rp-pc133-pd-gan-65wusb-c-wall-charger#!
https://ldnio.com/products/a2620c-65w-pd-qc-3-0-usb-type-c-high-power-charger-adapter
https://www.aukey.com/products/aukey-pa-b3-omnia-65w-fast-usb-c-charger
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The cable should be fine. The cables I'm still using that was included with my s21 and LG V60 both provide Super Fast Charging when paired with a capable charging block. Anything from aukey, ugreen, ravpower rated for PD 3.0 and Super Fast should be fine. Samsung has a conservative charging system compared to the Chinese brand phones from Hauwei, Xiaomi, and Realme.
I have a BASEUS 100W GAN charger that works with the Samsung S22U. It's standard PPS. Also some noname 120W GAN charging hub I bought from AliExpress. Both indicate Superfast Charging 2.0 on the S22U when I plug them in.
SloPoke23 said:
I have a BASEUS 100W GAN charger that works with the Samsung S22U. It's standard PPS. Also some noname 120W GAN charging hub I bought from AliExpress. Both indicate Superfast Charging 2.0 on the S22U when I plug them in.
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Can you leave the link to your Baseus charger?
mc_365 said:
The cable should be fine. The cables I'm still using that was included with my s21 and LG V60 both provide Super Fast Charging when paired with a capable charging block. Anything from aukey, ugreen, ravpower rated for PD 3.0 and Super Fast should be fine. Samsung has a conservative charging system compared to the Chinese brand phones from Hauwei, Xiaomi, and Realme.
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I was going to buy either Aukey or RavPower but the PPS is not mentioned in the specifications!!!! What should I buy?!
Rubby1025 said:
I have had issues with trying to find a 45watt charger which will charge the S22u at the Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. I probably ordered 5 different chargers and none of them would work @45 watts even though they supported the PD 3.0 PPS standard. When I contacted one company support team they said Samsung tweaked the PPS standard for the S22u.
As it turned out, I had an Elecjet 65w charger that charges my S22u at the 45w Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. While they no longer sell that charger, they have a newer 45w version that does support the S22u (several Amazon reviews confirmed this).
https://www.amazon.com/ELECJET-Charging-Charger-Compatible-Samsung/dp/B084Q2CZG6/ref=mp_s_a_1_11_sspa?crid=1TAJ5U5PIBF89&keywords=65w+phone+charger+elecjet&qid=1655176242&sprefix=65w+phone+charger+elecjet%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-11-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFOVFcxMEYwMjBSOTgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzOTAyMzYxUlJDM0ZGUk1ZUzI4JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MTI5MzIyTjE2VzRCQVZCTktQJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
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That seems to be a good charger, but I cannot find one in my country, Iran. There are some good adaptors including Anker, Baseus, Aukey, Ravpower, Mcdodo, and so on but I could not find whether they do support PPS.
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Can you leave the link to your Baseus charger?
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002037978734.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.3e9518024NsdU7
It's not exactly cheap but it supports every charging protocol that I know of.
Also available at US site, unless you want white: https://us.baseus.com/p/baseus-gan2-pro-quick-charger-2c-2u-100w-9
Update: Amazon too.
SloPoke23 said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002037978734.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.3e9518024NsdU7
It's not exactly cheap but it supports every charging protocol that I know of.
Also available at US site, unless you want white: https://us.baseus.com/p/baseus-gan2-pro-quick-charger-2c-2u-100w-9
Update: Amazon too.
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Thanks for the link, but I could find the following charger available in the market:
Baseus GaN2 3 Ports Fast Charger 65W
Baseus 65W 3 Port foldable USB C charger is 3x faster than original 5W charger while supporting 8 kinds of fast-charging protocols including 45W Samsung Super Fast Charging.
us.baseus.com
It is not cheap, but I think it's good. Should I buy this one? (And not the ones I provided the link in my first message? I mean Aukey or RavPower)
jasin91 said:
Thanks for the link, but I could find the following charger available in the market:
Baseus GaN2 3 Ports Fast Charger 65W
Baseus 65W 3 Port foldable USB C charger is 3x faster than original 5W charger while supporting 8 kinds of fast-charging protocols including 45W Samsung Super Fast Charging.
us.baseus.com
It is not cheap, but I think it's good. Should I buy this one? (And not the ones I provided the link in my first message? I mean Aukey or RavPower)
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Does this Baseus GaN2 Pro support SUPERfast charging? Because I heard that superfast charging is different from fast charging.
jasin91 said:
I was going to buy either Aukey or RavPower but the PPS is not mentioned in the specifications!!!! What should I buy?!
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The reality is a 100% fully supported charging brick and cable will only get you a < 10 min decrease in charging from 0 - 100%. With most of the speed gains in the 0 - 50% time being reduce by like 6 minutes and then being pretty much negligible after, as the phone throttles to protect the battery from overheating.
To get everything you probably would need to go with the Baseus.
https://a.co/d/17Oxq7U
and
https://a.co/d/7OIbSPf
or get the most purchesd (implying some reliability) 100w PD 3.0 charger and use the cables you have and get 90% the same results with Superfast Charge vs Superfast Charge 2.0
I have some Anker brand USB-A to USB-C charging cables and just the wall wart (is there a technical name for those things?) from something... probably one of my old Samsung phones... it says "Adaptive fast charging" and output says "9.0 V === 1.67A or 5.0 V === 2.0 A".
( know that stands for "volts" and "amps", but I don't understand what the rest of it means... 2 Amps is "faster" than 1.67 Amps... I think... but what makes it charge at one speed or the other?)
My real questions:
1) Will using the USB-A to USB-A cable that came WITH the Galaxy S22 Ultra make a difference in charging speed?
2) Do I need to get a different "wall wart"? If I want one that supports USB-C plugging into it, I do, but will it gain me anything?
Thanks.
Edit: I guess tehnically it's an "AC Adapter" or a "power supply brick"...?
See how what you have now performs. The best/fully compatible would be Samsung own charger. And any decent quality cables
I use my original charger from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on my S22 ultra. It charges it about 90 minutes. I suspect this is the same charger as yours.
1.67amps x 9v is 15.03watts.
5.00apms x 5v is 10.00watts.
15 Watts is a nice steady rate to be charging your battery at.
45w...is really too fast if you want your battery to last more than 2 years.
pjaysnowden said:
I use my original charger from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on my S22 ultra. It charges it about 90 minutes. I suspect this is the same charger as yours.
1.67amps x 9v is 15.03watts.
5.00apms x 5v is 10.00watts.
15 Watts is a nice steady rate to be charging your battery at.
45w...is really too fast if you want your battery to last more than 2 years.
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45W is nothing and won't really degrade your battery much. Also, keep in mind, that batteries degrade regardless if you use them or not, they have a shelf life. So, in 2-3 years you will mostly need to replace your battery anyway if you plan to keep your phone for that long (assuming that you want the battery to be at it's "full" capacity after 2-3 years).
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45W is nothing and won't really degrade your battery much. Also, keep in mind, that batteries degrade regardless if you use them or not, they have a shelf life. So, in 2-3 years you will mostly need to replace your battery anyway if you plan to keep your phone for that long.
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Even still...I'll keep slow charging my phone...knowing that it will last 5 years.
My note 4 battery outlasted the actual phone. The touch screen packed up first. The battery still lasted 6 hours screen on.
I replaced it with a Note 9. Again...the battery was fine...and original. Same story...6 hours of screen on time.
Now I have a Note 22....or S22 Ultra.
I have used the Note 4's charger for all of these phones...with my 10watt Kosee wireless charger. Even on the Note 4...with a wireless adapter.
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45W is nothing...
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It's still 10 Amperes into the battery.
I'm often running ~10 Amperes into my dual 224 Ampere-hour 6 Volt "golf cart" batteries.
They also weigh about 130 pounds more than your battery!
Renate said:
It's still 10 Amperes into the battery.
I'm often running ~10 Amperes into my dual 224 Ampere-hour 6 Volt "golf cart" batteries.
They also weigh about 130 pounds more than your battery!
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It doesn't push 10 Amperes into the battery.
PPS charging is pushing from 3.3V to 20 Volts at 2.25Amps, it's dynamic charging and it depends on the device's state (temperature of the battery, the charger, the capacity of the battery).
I'm not sure where you get this information, and not trying to be rude now but maybe you should check up on both PD and PPS charging protocols that Samsung uses before assuming it's charging at 10 amps.
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I have some Anker brand USB-A to USB-C charging cables and just the wall wart (is there a technical name for those things?) from something... probably one of my old Samsung phones... it says "Adaptive fast charging" and output says "9.0 V === 1.67A or 5.0 V === 2.0 A".
( know that stands for "volts" and "amps", but I don't understand what the rest of it means... 2 Amps is "faster" than 1.67 Amps... I think... but what makes it charge at one speed or the other?)
My real questions:
1) Will using the USB-A to USB-A cable that came WITH the Galaxy S22 Ultra make a difference in charging speed?
2) Do I need to get a different "wall wart"? If I want one that supports USB-C plugging into it, I do, but will it gain me anything?
Thanks.
Edit: I guess tehnically it's an "AC Adapter" or a "power supply brick"...?
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1. With Galaxy S22 there is an USB-C to USB-C cable not USB-A (maybe a typo on your side). That cable is rated for the full power charge the device supports, that is 45w. It can make a difference if you are using it with a proper charger (that's the actual naming for the "wall wart"...it is called "charger" or "wall charger" btw).
2. Yes, you should get a different one if you wanna charge faster. Your actual charger is a (so called) "fast" charger with the charging power varying from 15W to 10W. Your phone supports from 25W up to 45W, that are the "ultra fast" chargers.
I'd suggest to get at least a 25W charger, also there are some extremely good Anker alternatives (even better that original Samsung chargers), look for Nano II 635 or 615 Anker chargers.
If you wanna keep your phone for an extended period (like 4-5 years or more), you might wanna activate that battery protection charge that only charges it till 85% and will preserve it for a longer period. If you switch phones after 2, even 3 years, don't bother, charge it as you like fast or slow till 100%
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I'm not sure where you get this information...
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If the charger is rated at 45 Watts and sometimes actually delivers that:
45 Watts / (maximum) 4.3 Volt battery > 10 Amperes
Maybe they are PWM-ing it or whatever, but the peak current is > 10 Amperes.
Ok, we can subtract the efficiency of the buck converter, but it's still in that neighborhood.
What would happen if I bought and used a 65-watt charger? Would it automatically drop down to 45 watts to charge my S22 Ultra? Could it damage it, etc.?
Dougmeister said:
What would happen if I bought and used a 65-watt charger? Would it automatically drop down to 45 watts to charge my S22 Ultra? Could it damage it, etc.?
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1.Q. Yes.
2.Q. It not gonna damage it if not pushed to full 100% or discharged completely before connecting.
Sorry to hijack this thread, but is there a decent wireless charger, that will give me fast wireless charging with a Spigen powerarc arcstation pro 65w charger? I have tried about 3-4 cheap crap ones, and they all give reg wireless charging of about 22% for an hour's charge.
The S22U‘s maximum wireless charging rate is only 15 watts. I use the Spigen PowerArc ArcField 15 watt wireless charger, which is powered by a conventional charger via USB C cable and works very well charging my S22U.
When i plug my P7P in to an Anker Nano III the P7P vibrates 4 times about 10 seconds apart before charging commences normally, is this how a PPS charger negotiates with the phone or is there a problem be it the charger or the phone?
Didn't even know what PPS was, but just did some reading on it. That explains my car charger. The delay happens no matter what I plug up, my iPad, wireless earphones cases, Pixel 4 XL, and now my 7 Pro. Seems like they're working as intended.
What is PPS Fast Charging, and What’s the Difference Between PD, QC, and PPS?
As the latest addition to the PD 3.0 standard, the PPS fast charging standard is the best charging technology for USB-C devices. Get a RAVPower PPS fast charger and power your devices in minutes!
blog.ravpower.com
Never noticed this with my OnePlus 9 charger (that's also a PPS charger). I'll have to look out for it next time.
MrBelter said:
When i plug my P7P in to an Anker Nano III the P7P vibrates 4 times about 10 seconds apart before charging commences normally, is this how a PPS charger negotiates with the phone or is there a problem be it the charger or the phone?
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Well, even if the charger fails to negotiate the PPS charging protocol, it would be still charing at minimum speed, usually the standard 5 Volts at around 1-2 Amps (depending on the charger/phone).
It seems like it's being interrupted for some reason. Unless you have the same issue with other chargers, I'm pretty sure it's the charger you're trying to use (Maybe even the cable).
MrBelter said:
When i plug my P7P in to an Anker Nano III the P7P vibrates 4 times about 10 seconds apart before charging commences normally, is this how a PPS charger negotiates with the phone or is there a problem be it the charger or the phone?
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I've noticed that recently with newer chargers, some even explicitly mention it on their pages.
I don't know why newer ones are doing this compared to older PPS chargers, speculating either lower cost for a charge control chip that instead has to reset between negotiations or it's intentional to solve bugs with devices that might not negotiate right unless the connection is reset.
Cheers for the answers everyone, if it wasn't for the regular nature of the handshake (for want of a better description) and then charging as you'd expect I'd say the charger is wonky (Anker Nano III) simply because it is brand new.
I have ordered a new cable just to rule that out all my old cables as well.
I must have more charging bricks knocking about than a charging brick shop but from what i can gather only the Nano III is a PPS one
Hopefully it is OK now and the new cable seems to have sorted it out but i guess i will see more in the coming days.
The cable i got is an Anker 643 (just for future reference) I have always used Anker cables so i must have had an iffy one.
Hi, i noticed that my phone wasn't fast charging, despite i have an anker that reaches 18w. What kind of charger can i buy that allow my pixel to have fast charge?
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Hi, i noticed that my phone wasn't fast charging, despite i have an anker that reaches 18w. What kind of charger can i buy that allow my pixel to have fast charge?
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Any charger which can handle at least 23w. Anything over that(per port) will be useless.
Also the biggest gripe of the Pixel 7 series is not having rapid charging.
Thank you for the reply! I had to buy a new charger because mine was not compatible I guess. The phone didn't show up the "fast charging" indication and it took 2.20 hrs to charge from 30% to 100%.
The Anker Nano 3 is 30W, PD 3.0 and PPS this is the UK version but all other regions version have folding pins which make it super compact.