When i plug my P7P in to an Anker Nano III the P7P vibrates 4 times about 10 seconds apart before charging commences normally, is this how a PPS charger negotiates with the phone or is there a problem be it the charger or the phone?
Didn't even know what PPS was, but just did some reading on it. That explains my car charger. The delay happens no matter what I plug up, my iPad, wireless earphones cases, Pixel 4 XL, and now my 7 Pro. Seems like they're working as intended.
What is PPS Fast Charging, and What’s the Difference Between PD, QC, and PPS?
As the latest addition to the PD 3.0 standard, the PPS fast charging standard is the best charging technology for USB-C devices. Get a RAVPower PPS fast charger and power your devices in minutes!
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Never noticed this with my OnePlus 9 charger (that's also a PPS charger). I'll have to look out for it next time.
MrBelter said:
When i plug my P7P in to an Anker Nano III the P7P vibrates 4 times about 10 seconds apart before charging commences normally, is this how a PPS charger negotiates with the phone or is there a problem be it the charger or the phone?
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Well, even if the charger fails to negotiate the PPS charging protocol, it would be still charing at minimum speed, usually the standard 5 Volts at around 1-2 Amps (depending on the charger/phone).
It seems like it's being interrupted for some reason. Unless you have the same issue with other chargers, I'm pretty sure it's the charger you're trying to use (Maybe even the cable).
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When i plug my P7P in to an Anker Nano III the P7P vibrates 4 times about 10 seconds apart before charging commences normally, is this how a PPS charger negotiates with the phone or is there a problem be it the charger or the phone?
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I've noticed that recently with newer chargers, some even explicitly mention it on their pages.
I don't know why newer ones are doing this compared to older PPS chargers, speculating either lower cost for a charge control chip that instead has to reset between negotiations or it's intentional to solve bugs with devices that might not negotiate right unless the connection is reset.
Cheers for the answers everyone, if it wasn't for the regular nature of the handshake (for want of a better description) and then charging as you'd expect I'd say the charger is wonky (Anker Nano III) simply because it is brand new.
I have ordered a new cable just to rule that out all my old cables as well.
I must have more charging bricks knocking about than a charging brick shop but from what i can gather only the Nano III is a PPS one
Hopefully it is OK now and the new cable seems to have sorted it out but i guess i will see more in the coming days.
The cable i got is an Anker 643 (just for future reference) I have always used Anker cables so i must have had an iffy one.
Hi, i noticed that my phone wasn't fast charging, despite i have an anker that reaches 18w. What kind of charger can i buy that allow my pixel to have fast charge?
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Hi, i noticed that my phone wasn't fast charging, despite i have an anker that reaches 18w. What kind of charger can i buy that allow my pixel to have fast charge?
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Any charger which can handle at least 23w. Anything over that(per port) will be useless.
Also the biggest gripe of the Pixel 7 series is not having rapid charging.
Thank you for the reply! I had to buy a new charger because mine was not compatible I guess. The phone didn't show up the "fast charging" indication and it took 2.20 hrs to charge from 30% to 100%.
The Anker Nano 3 is 30W, PD 3.0 and PPS this is the UK version but all other regions version have folding pins which make it super compact.
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The only charger that's charging my Pixel C is the original charger that came with the device.
I have a number of other chargers here, even a QC3.0 charger, and another USB-C charger (from a Moto Z2). None of them is charging the Pixel C! They do light up the charging icon, but when I look into the battery settings, it says: 'not charging'
What are your experiences with charging the Pixel C?
i use the factory charger, the charger from my oneplus 5, and if it is connected to my pc it charges during that time. i remember using a few others also and have had no issues with any specific charge method. in fact, i am sorta surprised by the post. i know the factory charger has a built-in cable, so i might first look at the cable used with any other charger. i bought some usb-a to usb-c cables from amazon and the oneplus 5 is a good usb-a to usb-c cable.
I purchased this from amazon
Anker Quick Charge 3.0 and USB Type-C 24W USB Wall Charger, PowerPort+ 1 for Galaxy C9 Pro, Nexus, Moto and More
I think it came with a cord
Anker PowerLine+ C to C 2.0 cable (6ft), High Durability, for USB Type-C Devices Including Samsung Galaxy S8, S8+, the new MacBook, Nintendo Switch, Google Pixel, Nexus 6P, LG V20 G5 and More
this is optional.
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They do light up the charging icon, but when I look into the battery settings, it says: 'not charging'
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All my chargers do that, including the original one. It takes maybe half a minute to a minute before this changes to "charging" in battery settings. So it's not a charger problem really.
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All my chargers do that, including the original one. It takes maybe half a minute to a minute before this changes to "charging" in battery settings. So it's not a charger problem really.
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well.... it once drained the battery, the screen stayed on because a charger was connected, but it did not actually charge the battery. i thought it was charging, some time later i noticed that it was not!
this and other experiments made me write this question on the forum.
update: due to a problem with the PIN I had to factory reset my Pixel C https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73807273&postcount=20
and ever since, different chargers NOW do charge the Pixel C!!! strange, but that's how it is now....
Sorry for resurrecting this old thread. Hopefully this may help others with this problem.
I am on my second pixel c and both had/have this problem with aftermarket chargers. For me, the problem is not that the chargers won't charge the unit, but that they won't charge the unit every time they're plugged in. My workaround is to run the ampere app and repeatedly plug the charger into the unit until it shows it charging. Normally it takes no more than 5 tries. It even charges rapidly.
I currently use an anker charger that works as above, my previous charger, Aukey, also worked similarly. Strangely enough, it doesn't matter which end of the cable(usb-c or USB) is removed and reinserted to get the pixel c charging. This proves to me that it's not a bad connection.
I can confirm that the Anker aftermarket charger works great. When I plug in the Pixelbook charger into the Pixel C the tablet will charge but it will reboot android everytime.... Very annoying!
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I can confirm that the Anker aftermarket charger works great. When I plug in the Pixelbook charger into the Pixel C the tablet will charge but it will reboot android everytime.... Very annoying!
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any brand cable with 3A (aliexpress) solve your problem
Hi to all
Here you have my experience with my second hand pixel c.
I have tested :
huawei 5v 2A , 9v quick charger Charging ok.
Apple ipad 18w charger. Charges it ok.
Anker 5 ports QC2.0 not charging.
Aliexpress QC 3.0 charges but makes some bad touch screen errors and ghost touchs. It is impossible to use Pixel c.
Huawei 5v 2A. Not charge
With charge i mean in the battery options icon i can see charging...
Thanks to all.
I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a non-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
Stay on topic guys. OP asked a question, which could be answered with facts, rather than opinions and scenarios. In my regular car charger, I go from 22 to about 70 in 40 minutes, if I can recall correctly.
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Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
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I'm not sure if you're serious or sarcastic, but In case of the former, here are a few reasons why someone might be interested in charging with other than the Dash Charger:
1) AFAIK, Dash is available in AC mains or 12V Car charger versions. I often use a 20K mAH Anker powerbank battery for charging. That is usually in situations where other power is not available, but a quick charge is needed. Huge current is available, but would the OP6 use it?
2) I use a compact travel charger that has 5 USB charging ports. Using a Dash charger would require carrying another charger (big, bulky, without retractable prongs), and occupying one (or more due to the shape) additional AC outlets.
3) I have a phone charger in my bedroom, at my desk, in my travel bag (both AC and Car style), and in my car. A quick check on Amazon seems to indicate that the Oneplus6 charger is several times more expensive than other "quick charge" chargers. Over multiple charger locations, the extra costs add up.
Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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I'm Irish, apology
I have a stockpile of fast chargers that used the weird Nexus standard (5V, 3A, non QC) and they're okay, and for overnight or at my desk at work that's plenty fast to get the job done. The phone shows them as "charging" and not "charging slowly."
I purchased a "Tinduqin oneplus5T charger" from Amazon that works and looks exactly the same as the original dash charger for about $20, but it seems to already be sold out.
If you don't use dash charger,you only can charge at 5v 1.5a,I have tested it with apple 45w pd charger,xiaomi qc3.0 and nexus 5v3a charger
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I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a anon-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
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It won't charge very fast because it doesn't use any on board quick charge it's all in the dash charging brick
I have a bunch quick chargers 3.0 at home. It takes a life time. I end up buying the dash charger. I still use the quick charger for over night charging
there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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Do you own the OP6? Do you have a USB power meter that could measure the charging current with and without the Dash charger and reply with the values?
On my Note 4, it charges at about 1.17A / 5 V when the screen is on, and the current goes up to 1.6A with the screen off. That is with either a QC2 Quick Charger or a battery power pack. The phone reports "quick charger connected" in both cases.
oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
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Is it possible to use a the original DASH-adapter but with another USB-C cable? I need a longer cable so I can use the phone whilwe charging.
OnePlus has a original cable for sale which is only 150cm Long.
My question is if I can buy any other manufacturers cable whish also support some sort of fast charging. I've heard for example that DASH-charging is the same charging model that Huawei P20 Pro uses, they just have different name. .
So, is there anyone here that has switched the OP original cable and charge it up with a cable from another manufacturer?
There has to be a solution to this. Me myself can't. be the only one that needs s longer cable.
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oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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That's normal. Phones pull the most amps when on low battery, then progressively less as they are charged.
Check how much it pulls on <40% and <80% respectively.
Well, I charged my Op6 with a no-name USB 3.0 charger yesterday (forgot my dash charger at home, I was by a friend) and from 3% to 100% it took about ~1 hour and 55 minutes.
Not that bad I guess. But I still prefer my dash charger
I'm using a huawei p20 pro charger atm. Phone states from 75 - 100 it will take 33 minutes. (prob a bit faster if I don't use the phone.
Here is a charging session with a Oneplus 2 charger without quick charge
Charging from 27% to 100% in 2 hrs, 40 min - avg. Charging speed: about 1000 mA/h
Hello,
I'm using this old thread since we're talking about the same thing.
Is there a kernel or rom for the OP6 that enables to draw as much current as possible form third party chargers? It's sad that it's stuck at 1.5A no matter the charger unless you use dash charger. 2A is already something, 3A would be awesome.
Of course only if this a software limit.
I noticed that Tab S6 did not complain about slow recharging when plugging in a Power Delivery port.
I took some measurements using a couple of meters I have.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FMQZVW2
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D316FHM/
Samsung Charger with Samsung Cable:
9.12V * 1.595A = 14.546 watts
Power Delivery (Google Pixel 2 XL Charger and Cable):
8.39V * 1.93A = 16.19 watts
I also tested with different cables that I already verified that were good and a couple of different chargers for Power Delivery and Quick Charge and results were similar to the measurements above.
ChrisDos said:
I noticed that Tab S6 did not complain about slow recharging when plugging in a Power Delivery port.
I took some measurements using a couple of meters I have.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FMQZVW2
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D316FHM/
Samsung Charger with Samsung Cable:
9.12V * 1.595A = 14.546 watts
Power Delivery (Google Pixel 2 XL Charger and Cable):
8.39V * 1.93A = 16.19 watts
I also tested with different cables that I already verified that were good and a couple of different chargers for Power Delivery and Quick Charge and results were similar to the measurements above.
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I was actually curious about this subject. Thank you for sharing your findings. I am assuming the charges times shouldn't vary much.
Very curious if the 45 Watt charger from the Note10 will give a additional boost.
My Tab is currently on order, but it will take 1 or 2 weeks before it arrives.
I ordered the 256GB model, especially for the 8GB memory.
Brotuck said:
Very curious if the 45 Watt charger from the Note10 will give a additional boost.
My Tab is currently on order, but it will take 1 or 2 weeks before it arrives.
I ordered the 256GB model, especially for the 8GB memory.
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I just ordered one of these on a black friday sale. Did you ever find out if the 45W charger works faster?
No it does not make a difference.
Just a FYI...kinda related?
Without even thinking much about it I've been using the PD port (connected to original charger) on my USB-C to HDMI converter for several months. During usage, which consists of streaming live NFL games via the S6 and watching on my TV, the battery level decreases, albeit slowly, from 100% down to about 85% during a 3-3 1/2 hour session.
I assume this is to be expected, considering. Anyways, just some info for thought.
While fast charging is very convenient, it will affect the longevity of the battery if it's pushed too far.
I buy this one https://www.amazon.com/Vantec-USB-C-3-Port-Delivery-CB-CU301HSPD/dp/B07FQWV2YK but when running usb keyboard and mouse and hdmi i get a warning that battery is draining faster then it is charging and can see battery draining. If I use official samsung battery does not drain.
i know this thread is old, but exactly the issue i have was mentioned here.
i got a multiport adapter, so i can use hdmi and usb 3.0 ports on my tablet. it also came with an usb-c port for with PD 60w charging.
but when i plugged my original amsung charger to the multiport adapter thats connected to my tablet, it said its fullxy charged it 50h.... so.. is this totally normal its like that? the battery draining is faster than the charging. doesnt matter what i do, it is always the same: with the multiport adapter + original samsing chargwer it needs like 50h+ to be fully charged. is it the same for you guys, too? (when i dont use the adapter, my original samsiung charger charges full in 1h30min... that ocnfuses me totally)
can someone explain me in possibly easy words, why it is like that and why it is normal? (in case it actually is normal..) so basically, i would like to know if i should refund the adapter because its usb-c PD charging port is broken, or if this is totally normal behaviour with samsung mobile/tablet charger stuff?
EDIT: meassuring the electricity on my power socket, when i dont use the adapter, its charges with around 12W. but with the adapter it sinks to 1,5W. is that normal?
My Poco F2 Pro charges fine (and very fast) with a USB-C to USB-C cable connected to a USB-C fast charger such as a Samsung. But if I try to charge it with a USB-A to USB-C cable connected to any charger, the phone only draws 0.5A ( I have a USB power dongle to check this ) and that's not fast enough to actually keep the phone charged when in use.
Every other phone I've tried will at least draw over an amp, even those which support fast charging.
I've tried multiple chargers, multiple cables, and nothing except C-C with fast charging will actually charge the phone.
Is this normal behaviour for the phone, or do I have a fault with mine. (It was bought second-hand with a warranty, but no charger or cable in the box).
No it's not normal, mine charges at least at QC3 speeds with various compatible chargers, powerbank and cables. Even with Huawei's fast charger, which seems not to be fully compatible, it charges about 2A (measured in accubattery).
It has a strange behavior if it's like that. What about original cable and charger, that's A to C, should charge very fast.
I had another issue regarding charging, whichever charger/cable I was using (let's say max 5V/2A), in accubattery it was measured around 3A, and the charger would overheat like crazy. You know when you want to charge slower, all what they tell you on the web is to use a less powerful charger... and this is what I did, but not with great results though. On my previous phone it was working just fine. On my wife's Mate20Pro it's also working well, but not on F2Pro. Even if the cable was rated 3A and I would connect it to the original charger, it would still draw 5A from it... Only way to solve it was AccA apk so I limit the current that the phone draws and I'm happy.
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It has a strange behavior if it's like that. What about original cable and charger, that's A to C, should charge very fast.
I had another issue regarding charging, whichever charger/cable I was using (let's say max 5V/2A), in accubattery it was measured around 3A, and the charger would overheat like crazy. You know when you want to charge slower, all what they tell you on the web is to use a less powerful charger... and this is what I did, but not with great results though. On my previous phone it was working just fine. On my wife's Mate20Pro it's also working well, but not on F2Pro. Even if the cable was rated 3A and I would connect it to the original charger, it would still draw 5A from it... Only way to solve it was AccA apk so I limit the current that the phone draws and I'm happy.
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Unfortunately I don't have the original charger and cable as it was a used phone which is otherwise in perfect working order. I've had no problems with c-c fast chargers, but nothring else works.
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Unfortunately I don't have the original charger and cable as it was a used phone which is otherwise in perfect working order. I've had no problems with c-c fast chargers, but nothring else works.
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What ROM is on the phone right now? May I suggest going completely stock with MiFlash to rule out the software part?
bilkusg said:
My Poco F2 Pro charges fine (and very fast) with a USB-C to USB-C cable connected to a USB-C fast charger such as a Samsung. But if I try to charge it with a USB-A to USB-C cable connected to any charger, the phone only draws 0.5A ( I have a USB power dongle to check this ) and that's not fast enough to actually keep the phone charged when in use.
Every other phone I've tried will at least draw over an amp, even those which support fast charging.
I've tried multiple chargers, multiple cables, and nothing except C-C with fast charging will actually charge the phone.
Is this normal behaviour for the phone, or do I have a fault with mine. (It was bought second-hand with a warranty, but no charger or cable in the box).
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Just search and buy original charger if u want full charging speed, one guy made a great test of different chargers and different cables on this phone, check this here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/poco-f2-pro-charging-study-how-fast-does-it-charge.4189013/
There's something wrong with his device.
0.5 A is too low for any charger.
Alright so I've got my S22U in, and it appears that the charging requirements for 45W Fast charging have changed relative to the Note 10+ I did have. Neither of my two chargers that previously charged the Note 10 at full speed charge my S22U at full speed. There is no "Super Fast Charging 2.0" indication on my display when I connect the chargers. So something has changed. Kind of a disappointment on my end, since there was no good reason to change standards/requirements. Does anyone have a new 45W adapter, yet?
I have the Spigen ARC 45w charger and even though it doesn't say "Super Fast Charging 2.0" (only without the 2.0) it charges at exactly the same speed as the original new samsung 45w charger (where it says 2.0) used in this test:
Alright I found someone on Verizon's website saying that the output voltage on the EP-T4510 charger goes up to 20V whereas my chargers only hit about 11V, even under PPS. So the Ultra requires a higher 20V voltage to get up to 45W, where my Note 10+ only required 11V to hit 45W. Makes sense now.
Verizon Review of Samsung 45W New Charger
The new charger has PPS [email protected] 2.25A. The old charger had PPS [email protected] 4.1A. If you were using the old charger, you need a 5A cable. There hasn't been enough testing with real volt/power meters to see what's going on, because all these youtube trash reviewers are just plugging something random in and measuring the time it takes to charge.
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The new charger has PPS [email protected] 2.25A. The old charger had PPS [email protected] 4.1A. If you were using the old charger, you need a 5A cable. There hasn't been enough testing with real volt/power meters to see what's going on, because all these youtube trash reviewers are just plugging something random in and measuring the time it takes to charge.
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Yeah with the old charger I was using a Thunderbolt 3 cable rated for the full 100W charge spec (20V/5A) so the cable itself is def good.
EDIT - I just tried another USB-C cable, and got the 2.0 notification. So check the cables for sure. THanks for the hint.
Hi guys
I'm using Samsung 45W charger; EP-TA845XBEGWW. It delivers 21VDC at 2.1A, this gives 21x2.1= 44.1W and It's works perfectly for changing my S22 Ultra. It also got a lot of other charging modes, it runs PDO or PPS. USB type C in both ends. Hope this helps.
Regards DeHAWK
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Hi guys
I'm using Samsung 45W charger; EP-TA845XBEGWW. It delivers 21VDC at 2.1A, this gives 21x2.1= 44.1W and It's works perfectly for changing my S22 Ultra. It also got a lot of other charging modes, it runs PDO or PPS. USB type C in both ends. Hope this helps.
Regards DeHAWK
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Yeah in my case it was a cable issue. The same cable that worked perfectly on the N10+ no longer supports 45W speeds on the S22U. So I am going to seek out new cables I guess. Thanks.
I bought this charger from Amazon.ca and according to the specs it outputs 21 volts @ 2.25 amps so should be able meet the 45 watt max charging capability of the phone. It's very compact. I'll verify when I receive the phone.
Anker USB C Charger, 713 Charger
hand-filer said:
I bought this charger from Amazon.ca and according to the specs it outputs 21 volts @ 2.25 amps so should be able meet the 45 watt max charging capability of the phone. It's very compact. I'll verify when I receive the phone.
Anker USB C Charger, 713 Charger
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If it doesn't check your cables.
Use this 100w/5a usb-c cable (https://amzn.to/351pBUQ) with the Samsung 45w charger (EP-TA845XWEGUS) and it shows "Super fast charging 2.0". If you don't use the write cable you won't get the "2.0" type of charging.
I also got this charger hub from Amazon (https://amzn.to/3hcjnnu) using the same 100w/5a cables and it shows "Super fast charging 2.0". Nearly the same prices as the Samsung charger, but can do more. Works perfect for families as a charging hub. This was verified on both a new Samsung S22 Ultra and my old Samsung S20 Ultra.
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The new charger has PPS [email protected] 2.25A. The old charger had PPS [email protected] 4.1A. If you were using the old charger, you need a 5A cable. There hasn't been enough testing with real volt/power meters to see what's going on, because all these youtube trash reviewers are just plugging something random in and measuring the time it takes to charge.
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I performed a test with a real ammeter today, results here:
Note that I used a 3rd party PPS charger.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS22/comments/szsmos