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I just installed this game and I am really disappointed in the performance on my Nexus. I'm running the latest CM rom with 33.1 kernel and even when overclocked to 1133 the game gets unplayable in most spots...
Anyone has any thoughts on that ? I search around and Droid users seem to get better framerates. Is the Nexus GPU so bad after all ???
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I see what you are saying, but I don't find it excruciatingly laggy at all. Its pretty decent, but I do see the performance limits of the Nexus gpu. I also see the need for performance upgrades to the game itself. Other games go much smoother then this one (both are smooth though, just others are much smoother). Raging Thunder 1 and 2 are pretty beast on the nexus.
I don't find it a big problem at all. If anything, devs need to adapt for the nexus market
This is like the best to come to nexus I have a lot of the cars unlocked and get to play my music while I play. =) I dont see much lag on enoms with his oc/uv works great next update should be a bit faster.
Before I used Ivan's JIT this game was pretty choppy with long loading times, even with pershoot's ocuv. Now with Ivan's JIT and ocuv kernel, this game is super smooth with very fast loading times. If it can be optimized to run smoothly without JIT it would be even better.
I am also using CM's latest ROM and am getting pretty bad lag at times, I am thinking about going to Modaco's once the new version comes out. Is performance for this game really that different between ROM's?
Kutthoat5150 said:
I am also using CM's latest ROM and am getting pretty bad lag at times, I am thinking about going to Modaco's once the new version comes out. Is performance for this game really that different between ROM's?
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I don't think it's a ROM issue as much as it is a developer issue.
Using enom's rom and it plays brilliantly on my N1
Gameloft has admitted it needs to be tweaked for the N1. It's not optimized but still looks great. My wife has an iPhone and it looks fantastic on it.
I wish developers would make graphically pretty games for Android that aren't racing games. Seriously, how many do we really need?
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Before I used Ivan's JIT this game was pretty choppy with long loading times, even with pershoot's ocuv. Now with Ivan's JIT and ocuv kernel, this game is super smooth with very fast loading times. If it can be optimized to run smoothly without JIT it would be even better.
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Well I didn't buy the game to confirm that, but if it really runs faster with JIT it means it's written in java and it's going to run like crap anyway... In that case they don't need to optimise it, they need to rewrite it as a native app.
It is smooth but not extremely, yeah it stil need to tweak, as I notice it actually play extremely smooth in Motorola Droid (Milestone).
It still playable with decent speed just slightly lagging when your car bang, fly over, then you notice the lagging issue.
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Well I didn't buy the game to confirm that, but if it really runs faster with JIT it means it's written in java and it's going to run like crap anyway... In that case they don't need to optimise it, they need to rewrite it as a native app.
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All "native apps" are run from within a java shell. Basically, each frame the java code has to call into the native code. The alternative would be essentially writing OpenGL from the ground up in the native code, although even then it'd still need to be called from an active java app and all controls, sound, etc, would need to be handled in java. There's simply no other way to write native apps in Android.
Yes, sorry, that's what I meant by "native app" (that's how kwaak3 works for example). I can be wrong but I think if only input and audio are handled by java, the use of a different virtual machine using JIT can't make such a difference...
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Well I didn't buy the game to confirm that, but if it really runs faster with JIT it means it's written in java and it's going to run like crap anyway... In that case they don't need to optimise it, they need to rewrite it as a native app.
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I played the game while running JIT and it made zero difference. It was still laggy at times. No ROM will make a difference as it's not the software here that is the limiting factor but the GPU. The snapdragon has a great CPU but unfortunately a pretty poor GPU compared with other phones say the Droid. The Droid was much smoother and even smoother was the iPhone.
Gameloft needs to optimize this game keeping in mind the hardware specs for each device. Just my two cents.
Using Enomther rom, no lag whatsoever, plus you can overclock over 1 ghz...
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Using Enomther rom, no lag whatsoever, plus you can overclock over 1 ghz...
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Interesting, with Enom's I always get lag. Good to hear that it works well for you.
Many people will probably have different views on what lag is, i get a lag when playing it and so will everyone else, some people may not notice it as much as others and in some cases it may occur less due to there actual set up but the ROM should not make a difference as it was not developed with the nexus one in mind, hence why it doesn't utilize the N1 as well as it utilizes the Moto
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Many people will probably have different views on what lag is, i get a lag when playing it and so will everyone else, some people may not notice it as much as others and in some cases it may occur less due to there actual set up but the ROM should not make a difference as it was not developed with the nexus one in mind, hence why it doesn't utilize the N1 as well as it utilizes the Moto
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Actually this game was developed for the iPhone it lags pretty bad on the Moto Droid as well.
I guess there is no game till now that has used N1's potential fully. Whats stopping game development on Android ??
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I guess there is no game till now that has used N1's potential fully. Whats stopping game development on Android ??
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The market. Not the "Android Market", but the market for heavily investing in optimizing a game. Every Android handset is different - different plug-ins, different hardware, different software, etc. If you want to design a great game that performs brilliantly for 2 dollars, you need to sell a LOT of copies of it. Hundreds of thousands or more. Well, only the Droid has even sold that many handsets, and you'll never get 20%-50% penetration into a market with just one application.
Sure, Asphalt will run on nearly anything, BUT, it isn't going to run as well as it does on the iPhone despite the inferior hardware on that device, simply because optimizing it for one platform in Android (except MAYBE the Droid) isn't economically efficient.
The iPhone's biggest advantage (though that is looking to be short-lived now...) is the absolute lack of platform fragmentation. Every single iPhone or iPod Touch can run 99.5% of the available applications, and run them well. Almost all of them are running exactly the same software (obviously, there are some kernel differences and baseband differences, but the userspace kit is almost exactly the same). And there are 80 million of them. A developer just needs to hope for 1 percent penetration to make a killing on even a cheap application.
Until Android can get rid of excessive fragmentation (to at least a reasonable extent), it will suffer in the game world compared to Apple's kit. If Android can get down to just one version on effectively everything, with one set of APIs to address graphics at high speed, it'll be too expensive to make something perform as well - unless you want to pay $30 for an Android game (and I sure won't do that...).
hi boys
i really need your help
i so confused about what mobile i should to get
omnia 2 or hd touch
i love the interface of htc but finally i can see that same thing we can do it on omnia 2 by roms
and i love omnia coz the speed of cpu mor than hd
so plz
helpppppppppppppppppppppppppppp me
Compared to older HTC devices (Diamond, Diamond 2 etc.) Omnia 2 is really FAST and the big screen is killer. But the device is crippled by Samsung software. It does also strange things like closing apps if you have opened more than 3 or 4. There's a hack for this but still..... But why not HD2?
I prefer HTC HD, even if it´s a bit older design is much much nicer and it´s HTC
Softwares, games from Qualcomm processor phones are mostly compatible with HTC HD. However if you do not mind losing those stuff, you might want to get Omnia II to get the wonderful AMOLED screen and the 800mhz processor.
i have a omnia i8000 and it works great. Out of the box very low RAM, it true samsnug apps kill the phone. The first thing i would do is disable touchwiz and flash a custom lite ROM on the phone and it works just fine. The apps closing someone minchioned above is because of low RAM, when the RAM gets low it auto closes apps which i have not experenced yet on my phone.
The main problem with the phone is openGL drivers samsnug made ****ty drivers so lots of programs that rely on opengl do not work, well they work but are slow. Apps like SBP moble shell carousel, SBP work fine it just the carousel and some games. All the games i have tried worked jus fine.
Never had a htc HD so i can't comment, if you go omnia your gonna have to tweak the **** out of it.
All i can say is the omnia dose have flaws, but overall a great phone and works fine for me. I love the screen and the phone is just great and the community is getting stronger so more people will try to support it. It the best phone price vs specs.
thanks for every one try to help me in this problem
but i can say that i still little confused
I must say everybody here complain too much..
I have O3D and till now the only thing that really sucked was that LG didn't
supply Gingerbread in time!
My advice is to root your device and install some RAM manager (like 'AutoKiller Memory Optimizer' and set to "Ultimate" preset).
With the device superb memory processing your device will work better than any device I've seen (and I have Galaxy-S2 also that run not as smooth as my O3D).
Hope it will help someone..
Thanks for the advice, will give it a try.
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I must say everybody here complain too much..
I have O3D and till now the only thing that really sucked was that LG didn't
supply Gingerbread in time!
My advice is to root your device and install some RAM manager (like 'AutoKiller Memory Optimizer' and set to "Ultimate" preset).
With the device superb memory processing your device will work better than any device I've seen (and I have Galaxy-S2 also that run not as smooth as my O3D).
Hope it will help someone..
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Seriously...s2 doesn't run as smooth? It has twice the ram and a faster cpu / gpu so it should beat optimus 3D.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Seriously...s2 doesn't run as smooth? It has twice the ram and a faster cpu / gpu so it should beat optimus 3D.
Hey Dave,
The fact that S2 have twice the RAM (can have even much more) doesn't metter and the cpu is almost the same, even LG have 'texas instruments' hardware which is very high quality if you familiar.
As long as you have enough free RAM (for this you need only the kind of Memory optimizer app as 'AutoKiller Memory Optimizer') your device run's better than S2. it's a fact, try and see
thanks
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Iland said:
My advice is to root your device and install some RAM manager (like 'AutoKiller Memory Optimizer' and set to "Ultimate" preset).
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I would highly recommend against doing that. Most RAM managers simply kill processes until the set amount of memory is free - pretty much preventing all multitasking. Most apps are cached when exited, so they can be quickly switched to later, they usually don't use any battery. Android will close most unnecessary apps by itself if more RAM is required.
With the device superb memory processing your device will work better than any device I've seen (and I have Galaxy-S2 also that run not as smooth as my O3D).
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Imo, the SGS2 is much smoother than the O3D. Pretty much all games run well on it, while some games such as GTA3 (Full effects enabled + Max view distance) and dungeon defenders don't run that well on the O3d. GPU Overclocking is also possible on the SGS2, but not possible on the O3D - Even if it were, i doubt the already overclocked sgx540 (200 stock > 300mhz) can be oc'd as much as the Mali 400.
The SGS2 is also much more optimized than the O3D - Touchwiz is mostly smooth, even with a Live wallpaper, while the stock LG Launcher seems to be laggy. The camera also doesnt take ages to start up.
Also, im pretty sure most complaints are about battery life. My O3D only lasts around 1-3 hours with screen on - even worse than the DHD.
What are we complaining about?
Battery life
lousy Support from LG
I am still officially waiting in Australia for the gingerbread update
my phone under froyo 10k-j restarted over 20 times a day
under Gingerbread I missed out on phone calls and sms
and the list goes on.....
so please don't go around lecturing us as ungrateful to LG for this wonderful phone that I paid $800 for.
I have switched 2 month ago back to my Iphone 4 as my main phone,
only because of the good Devs at Cyanogen I am now wanting to use the phone more and I am going to make it my main phone again.
LG makes good hardware but the software side of things really sux.
and regarding your recommendation to use task killers to free ram tells me a lot how much you know about android 2.2 and above.
shalom
Hi All,
I think you guy's took it much more personally than I meant..
It's just an advice that you can use or choose not to use.
I had some issues with the device speed and after a while I found what I think to be the best setup for the device and I shared my opinion:
1) upgrade to gingerbread (V21a).
2) Root your device.
3) Install 'AutoKiller Memory Optimizer' and set to "Ultimate" preset.
Ever since I did it my O3D work great. and with no offence to big fans of S2 but I think it operate even better since.
Thanks
As you all probably know, webOS has successfully been ported to Galaxy Nexus.. The source code has also been released..
My question is, is it possible to port it for our Explorer??
If yes, will anybody work on it in your free time??
:fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
Currently, the ports that exist/are being worked on are for two much more popular devices (Galaxy Nexus and Transformer Prime). They're also still very much in their infancy and extremely slow and laggy. At this point, it would probably make more sense until there are more established ports to Android devices to use as a "base" for a port. Even then, it'd probably be a lot of work, and results may not be great. The original Pre had a 600MHz processor, underclocked to 500MHz. The Explorer has a 600MHz, so in that regard it should be fine. Explorer has more RAM as well. Although the Pre had much more internal storage, and I'm not sure how large the OS is. Without S-OFF on the Explorer, it may not be possible to get a large enough partition to install the OS onto.
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Currently, the ports that exist/are being worked on are for two much more popular devices (Galaxy Nexus and Transformer Prime). They're also still very much in their infancy and extremely slow and laggy. At this point, it would probably make more sense until there are more established ports to Android devices to use as a "base" for a port. Even then, it'd probably be a lot of work, and results may not be great. The original Pre had a 600MHz processor, underclocked to 500MHz. The Explorer has a 600MHz, so in that regard it should be fine. Explorer has more RAM as well. Although the Pre had much more internal storage, and I'm not sure how large the OS is. Without S-OFF on the Explorer, it may not be possible to get a large enough partition to install the OS onto.
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Got it.. Thanks for the insight..:good:
@#define.. how about trying now ?
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@#define.. how about trying now ?
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That bored huh?? :silly:
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That bored huh?? :silly:
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Hehe yeah.
This looks like a great phone and I'm planning on purchasing it soon. Only £100 on amazon here in the uk for the unlocked version. My main concern is the storage. Many reviews are saying that you only get about 1.2gb and that apps cannot be moved to SDCard. Can anyone that owns the phone tell me if this is actually a really big problem as every other aspect of the phone looks great for the price.
Finally since this phone was just released recently how likely is it that sony might give us official lollipop sometime next year?
The phone ia great . But as it is a budget phone so you will have to compromise for something.. So here The storage is low. If you like to try out new apps then this phone can be a bit irritating for you. But you can root your phone and swap or link ext sd card to int. App 2 sd feature doesn't work for all the apps moreover gapps itself consume lots of space which cannot be moved.and about the update,lollipop can be expected as sony is trying to make this device head turner :cyclops: but cant say anything about software update team of sony :silly: but one major update will be releasesd which will be either 4.4.4 or 5.0 . Two minor updates already rolled out.
If you dont have any problem with swapping or linking storage. Then this device is deal breaker at that price :fingers-crossed: :laugh:
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The phone ia great . But as it is a budget phone so you will have to compromise for something.. So here The storage is low. If you like to try out new apps then this phone can be a bit irritating for you. But you can root your phone and swap or link ext sd card to int. App 2 sd feature doesn't work for all the apps moreover gapps itself consume lots of space which cannot be moved.and about the update,lollipop can be expected as sony is trying to make this device head turner :cyclops: but cant say anything about software update team of sony :silly: but one major update will be releasesd which will be either 4.4.4 or 5.0 . Two minor updates already rolled out.
If you dont have any problem with swapping or linking storage. Then this device is deal breaker at that price :fingers-crossed: :laugh:
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Thanks! Since I have a htc sensation with only about 900mb of storage I've gotten used to keeping things minimal in terms of apps so It wont really be a problem for me and hopefully when root comes out i can make use of the extra space on my SDCard.
Also Im not expecting a super fast phone for the price but is the performance decent for the price? I know kitkat is way less resource intensive compared to previous versions but I've never used one with a sony skin before.
some of apps are movable to sd card but game data etc. are not movable so if you are hardcore gamer who wants to have a lot of games installed on this phone , dont buy this device until root comes out ... its performance is great , i havent expected any lag during normal use like browsing facebook ,being on google chrome etc. , games also run great , i tried Real racing 3 and it ran without problem . But there comes the storage problem .. i wasnt able to install the game with all the content so i couldnt continue playing the game because it wont allow me to download more data ... but if you are not a gamer ( like asphalt 8 , real racing 3 , games bigger than 1gb ...) , the phone is very good for its price and it has nice build quality (no squeaks etc.)
for me its a nice budget phone for people who are not hardcore gamers sorry for my bad english
Anushan said:
Thanks! Since I have a htc sensation with only about 900mb of storage I've gotten used to keeping things minimal in terms of apps so It wont really be a problem for me and hopefully when root comes out i can make use of the extra space on my SDCard.
Also Im not expecting a super fast phone for the price but is the performance decent for the price? I know kitkat is way less resource intensive compared to previous versions but I've never used one with a sony skin before.
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Sony skin is not that bloated.. but some processes of sony apps eat small amount of ram .And Some apps like sony select or whats new are of no use .! I removed those apps ..! And processor is great .. even 2nd gen moto g has same processor.. Camera is decent (Noise in picture is high in dim lit conditions).. Xperia ui is best.. Simple and minimalistic .And about display , resolution is less but it doesn't matter due to 4.5" screen and IPS dislplay.. Gives you juice of 2-3 days on single charge, :good: :highfive:
Awesome! That settles it looks like im getting this after all Been in need of an update for a long time. My sensation is finally starting to fail me so cant wait xD.
Thanks again for answering my questions.
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.And Some apps like sony select or whats new are of no use .! I removed those apps ..!
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How did you do that? If i go into Apps there's no unimstall, only Force Stop and Disable.
Gordonbp said:
How did you do that? If i go into Apps there's no unimstall, only Force Stop and Disable.
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Use Titanium Backup. !
But titanium backup requires a rooted device and as we all know there is still no root solution for xperia e3.
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How can.be this device rooted? I can't find anything. A little help?
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How can.be this device rooted? I can't find anything. A little help?
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here you can find how to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-e3/general/root-e3-t2964845