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[Q] Hardreset to fix unreliable push notifications thirdparty apps?

My push notifications from thirdparty apps and live tiles stop working very regularyly which is a shame since the platform heavily depends on this.
It fails to open a channel etc.
Is microsoft fixing this bug in the os? Since now they say yeah just do a factory rest and it should be fine. But i dont wat to lose my settings.
And a restart temporarely fixes it but after an hour or so its terrible again.
or are the ms servers just over crowded already? I dont like apple but my dads iphone just kept working while mine stopped receiving the toasts
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Marvin_S said:
My push notifications from thirdparty apps and live tiles stop working very regularyly which is a shame since the platform heavily depends on this.
It fails to open a channel etc.
Is microsoft fixing this bug in the os? Since now they say yeah just do a factory rest and it should be fine. But i dont wat to lose my settings.
And a restart temporarely fixes it but after an hour or so its terrible again.
or are the ms servers just over crowded already? I dont like apple but my dads iphone just kept working while mine stopped receiving the toasts
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Toasts and tile updates come from the app developers servers, so depending on the platform they use there may be some down time. The Beezz twitter client occasionally stops working, but it's a free app and not ad supported so we should be lucky it has toasts and tile notifications at all.

sulphuricaciduk said:
Toasts and tile updates come from the app developers servers, so depending on the platform they use there may be some down time. The Beezz twitter client occasionally stops working, but it's a free app and not ad supported so we should be lucky it has toasts and tile notifications at all.
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not really since tested with the same apps at the same time. Its probably because it goes to the ms servers and fails to deliver timely. Also the unable to open a channel is not related to their servers i believe? Its related to a channel not able to open on the ms servers. Downtime should probably be equal when using the same apps on ios and wp7 sending out to each other, the messages do get delivered in app just no or really really delayed notifications. Like 20 minutes and then it just works normal for a while.. Then stops again. Other than this i really like the platform.
So i wonder does anybody else experience trouble? And which is the program you use which seems to be stable all times?

I'm experiencing the same troubles on my omnia 7.
Following programs do have some problems:
-Fim: Unable to open the channel - push notifications don't work anymore.
-TextMe: Push Notifications sometimes work - but with a delay of approx. 20 minutes
Following programs don't have any problems:
-Hotmail
-Messenger by Miyo
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This is really annoying - since a "usual" restart of the device doesn't help, i think i will have to do a hard reset (i wonder if this will help at all). But i don't want to lose all my settings, installed applications, short messages etc. So this really is a PITA.

stylopath said:
I'm experiencing the same troubles on my omnia 7.
Following programs do have some problems:
-Fim: Unable to open the channel - push notifications don't work anymore.
-TextMe: Push Notifications sometimes work - but with a delay of approx. 20 minutes
Following programs don't have any problems:
-Hotmail
-Messenger by Miyo
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This is really annoying - since a "usual" restart of the device doesn't help, i think i will have to do a hard reset (i wonder if this will help at all). But i don't want to lose all my settings, installed applications, short messages etc. So this really is a PITA.
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hardreset, would that really help? I think it wont really help. I have the same phone same apps and same problems also with tigertext send to wp7 and notes to tile.
i dont have the time and or want to hardreset. It might be a driver thing with the 3g etc. If nobody with other phones is experiencing this. I think hardreset changes nothig and will return to same behaviour. I will hardreset when the update comes or see if this will fix it.
20 Minutes is just strange conpared to instant on iphone and happens a lot

Pff
Did a hardreset. Tested the push again, ait a damn thing changed besides that I lost all my settings and stuff. Its just not working right. And probably a samsung driver or a ms server/os issue....
Does nobody else experience push notification downtime? Or delays? It's just not the way it should work. IM apps and Text replacement apps can never work properly in the background with these delays...

@Marvin_S which apps, specifically are you having trouble with? It could very well be that the developers servers have been down or slow.
I haven't had any Live Tile problems that couldn't directly be traced back to either the app dev's server or the way they've implemented notifications. Not on my Omnia 7 nor the HD2. Afaik, and I'm pretty sure I'd have heard about it - the wife's Omnia7 is doing just fine also. Have you tried flashing the new updated ROM? That seemed to fix a bunch of data issues.
Oh, as for the 20 minute thing, I've never seen this. Beezz for example notifies me (via toasts) in about a second or so.

Beezz has never worked for me. I always get an error whenever I try to enable push. The same happens for GReadie. I get a fail to open channel error. The weatherbug app also stopped working.
Right now my HTC hub live tile works. Its the only 3rd party live tile app I use.

emigrating said:
@Marvin_S which apps, specifically are you having trouble with? It could very well be that the developers servers have been down or slow.
I haven't had any Live Tile problems that couldn't directly be traced back to either the app dev's server or the way they've implemented notifications. Not on my Omnia 7 nor the HD2. Afaik, and I'm pretty sure I'd have heard about it - the wife's Omnia7 is doing just fine also. Have you tried flashing the new updated ROM? That seemed to fix a bunch of data issues.
Oh, as for the 20 minute thing, I've never seen this. Beezz for example notifies me (via toasts) in about a second or so.
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Well I seem to be running the latest version pre-installed by samsung... i asked in the omnia7 forum what kind of rom I was running.
Well the thing is, it builds up all the notifications and than releases them all after each other 20 minutes later.
Basically these apps: Textme and tigertext (which I tried later to see if it could replace textme, very kind and responsive developers btw)
Also send to wp7, which often than comes up with the failed to open channel stuff.
If this rom should rely fix it, then I will just reflash it eve though its exactly the same rom... I think it has something to do with losing 3g+ signal, or wifi drops.
I'm testing the reliablility heavily since I such problems by sending constant test messages to myself (or to the echo server) the messages are received fine, but the toast is so unreliable.
Can you maybe type the versions of your firmware so I can compare it with mine? Because its for sure not an app problem since the messages all come later from diffrent apps. My test flow is like this: Open app, send message, close, send message with the second app, close and than wait. If it takes to long, open app again, resend. Sometimes it works quite right for a while, than teribly bad.
And note that I'm from a crowded area with lots of cellphone towers and have also good wifi coverage in the places I tested it. Same apps on the iphone work without problems, I compared side by side as well.
So it might just be my omnia, thats why I would like to hear which versions you are running. Since hardreset did not change a thing, I'm starting to believe its or a driver problem or ms-servers are overcrowded. I would like to try beez and see if its diffrent, however I dont havee twitter and i guess its required.

I don't think the newer ROM from Samsung fixes anything, because i installed it. Version 2424.10.11.1
but perhaps the region affects this problem, e.g. North-American Azure-Servers work fine while European Servers are struggling.
I personally have massive problems with push notifications since monday or so, and it's really starting to pi** me off!

Hard resetting idny going to fix anything permenitly because it is not the phone it is the apps just gotta wait for and update to fix
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Weird. I'm using Beezz, SendToWP7, uController, eBay, Weatherbug and probably a few others using toast and/or live tile notification. Beezz server seems to go down every so often, but both uController and SendToWP7 notifies me real quick.
I'm running the latest Omnia 7 ROM as people said it was slightly faster and had a better data connection - that said, I was entirely happy with the phone even before updating.

I did a hard reset/reinstall of my apps and such, I'm still having intermittent push problems with some apps, and with others the push won't work at all. I will say that it seems to be the same apps having the same problems, and the ones that always have worked (weather bug) still work.
I'm thinking (hoping, praying!) this is a problem simply because of the infancy of the OS...I remember the first iphone, which I bought on day one, had all sorts of problems and "gaps" in technology

emigrating said:
Weird. I'm using Beezz, SendToWP7, uController, eBay, Weatherbug and probably a few others using toast and/or live tile notification. Beezz server seems to go down every so often, but both uController and SendToWP7 notifies me real quick.
I'm running the latest Omnia 7 ROM as people said it was slightly faster and had a better data connection - that said, I was entirely happy with the phone even before updating.
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oKe im running the latest rom since the beginning. Created fake twitter account sended a ton of messages. Crap as hell, very unreliable and today i was not able to load fb app data on 3g full bars. So it can be a phone problem on drivers with data over 3g, while 3g+ works fine. Probably euopean servers are overloaded than. Does changing my location from USA based (im dutch) To germany change the servers as well? Bc germany is much closer thus more reliable?

jmerrey said:
I did a hard reset/reinstall of my apps and such, I'm still having intermittent push problems with some apps, and with others the push won't work at all. I will say that it seems to be the same apps having the same problems, and the ones that always have worked (weather bug) still work.
I'm thinking (hoping, praying!) this is a problem simply because of the infancy of the OS...I remember the first iphone, which I bought on day one, had all sorts of problems and "gaps" in technology
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Its the apps not the phone the apps need to be updated inorder to work on the os not the other way around
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v hubris v said:
Its the apps not the phone the apps need to be updated inorder to work on the os not the other way around
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this is not the case, read my post. Has nothing to do with the apps since ALL apps behave like this, it has nothing to do with the apps itself but probably slow ms servers. So no this is really an os or server or device firmware problem and not an app. Since all notifications come at the same time all after eachother highly delayed.

Apps have own servers they Sony go threw ms os is not mad for apparently apparently are made for os if apparently no work on os they need update
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v hubris v said:
Apps have own servers they Sony go threw ms os is not mad for apparently apparently are made for os if apparently no work on os they need update
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its not the problem of the apps! Since all apps fail at the same time to update. This is no coincidence, only a restart or waiting will solve this and than all notifications not yet delivered by multiple apps come at once! Now tell me how this is an app poblem,its the phone who is not able to receive the push even on wifi. The apps do deliver, but there is a huge delay even with beez which i checked with fake twiter account.
Every once in a while the phone just fails to receive any data based push notifications! All of them. While i do have wifi and or 3g. On 3g+ it seems to be more stable.
This could be europe related or omnia related. And narrowing this down will help dtermine the issue, since the apps are not the problem. These work fine for the others...

Marvin_S said:
This could be europe related or omnia related. And narrowing this down will help dtermine the issue, since the apps are not the problem. These work fine for the others...
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It is neither Europe or Omnia related as I'm using the 16GB Omnia7 in Europe (slightly north of you) at the moment without fail.
If it really is all apps, I would suggest there is a problem with your data connection - are you able to browse the web properly and without pages having to reload or taking a long time to open? If not, make sure you are indeed within range of, either, 3G/HSDPA or WiFi - if you are, and it works fine on another phone/laptop I would say you have a hardware fault and need to take the device back for a replacement.

Several things to be aware of with live tiles and notifications.
I am a developer of a few apps and offer push notification and live tile updates i have done alot of testing and know the ins and outs of this..
1st there is a such thing of the phone not being able to "open a notification channel" and Hard Reset is the only way to correct this.
2nd it is possable that the app developer side to also be the problem not sending because of their service going down server problems etc.
3rd when your batt. get to be less than 1/4 percent the notification service shuts down on the phone and you will not recieve updates. once the batt is above the 1/4 percent the service will then start working again.
4th sometimes the push service is delayed due to MS.
Hope this helps to better understand.
My Apps
World Weather (Live Tile)
TV Show Alert (uses Push Notification)
To Doos (Comming soon Push, Live Tile)

GS4G Problems Driving me nuts - can someone else confirm these?

I love this phone when it's working. That's WHEN.
Here is a short list of some of the various problems I'm having consistently with the phone. It would be great if anyone else can confirm if these are happening to them. Would be nice to see if this is a problem with the GS4G in general or just with my specific unit. TIA.
1. Wifi sometimes cannot be turned on. Clicking it on will just result in the word error apearing. Nothing more. A reboot will always fix this.
2. Bluetooth will regularly have to be manually connected to the Sync in my Ford and it will arbitrarily disconnect from Sync in the middle of calls. Never had any bluetooth issues with the Ford with my s740 for more than a year. It's not the car.
3. Ringtones and notification sounds magically stop working. They simply act as if they are playing, but don't. vibration does work. Rebooting will always fix this.
4. Google Navigator will only speak to me when it feels like it. It will stop speaking mid route or not speak at all when it doesn't feel like it. No idea how to fix this one. Reboots or restarting the app don't help. It's random.
The good news is GPS on this phone is GREAT. The screen is AMAZING. Most of the time it's pretty fast. It's a bit laggy sometimes thanks to the bloatware I think. I used link2sd and partitioned the memory card. Also the memory card in this phone is CLASS 2!!! I have a Class 6 on order so that should help.
ALL the problems existed prior to partitioning and installing link2sd and pror to rooting so that is not the cause of the trouble. I suspect the problems may be related to the limited rom and ram being overloaded and system processes crashing until reboot. I HOPE it's not defective hardware although I guess I'm still withint the 30 day return period so hope to sort it out and keep it rather than turn it in.

i would try and odin to stock using krylon's post in the dev section. if you do that and you still have these errors... most likely hardware related and you need a new phone. i have zero issues with mine.

I got the same issue when I had my regular Vibrant using Bionix V with the Wifi toggle. Same thing with my Galaxy S 4G. Most of the time I can go into settings and toggle it from there and it will work. Sometimes not. I also use SuperPower App and it turns off the Wifi when the screen is off I think.

only issue I too am having is that my wifi does error out at times as well. It is quite annoying but aside from the rest of the features of the phone it's not a huge deal; especially given that the internet speed top notch and most any connecting to my home system is ran via wan not lan just for comparability reasons when i leave the house.

I've had all those issues.
I hate the lag.
I replaced the 16gig 2 class with my 8gig class 6.
Still lag, and just not very snappy.
This thing is going back this week.

I have all these problems too - both before I rooted and installed link2sd and after.
I really like this phone but am probably going to have to take it back because of these issues.

the original Vibrant had lag, as well. but over a few months... custom roms saved the day. i would stick it out cuz the hardware is pretty awesome. just my two cents.

The only problem I've Had is the WiFi (AP) Froze ON once, and the screen did not want to respond well. Reboot fixed it. That problem happened after uninstalling some apps. I haven't had any problems since. Phone works Good.

I've figured out a couple things. Basically all the problems on the phome seem to be thanks to bad software and bloatware.
1 the wifi refusing to turn on issue. This seems to be caused by the "drive smart (small)" app. Using Android Assistant killing that app allows wifi to turn back on immediately. The app does not always block wifi from starting, but when wifi is not starting, killing this app lets it start. At least on my phome.
2 no sound from navigation apps and other notification sounds not playing. When connecting to my ford sync, there are two bluetooth profiles used. One is the phone profile and one is bt audio. This is normal. Every phone i've had connects both. The problem is that this phone tries to send all audio to the car when it should only be sending phone call audio and media playback to the car. This is not how my old winphone devices behaved. I don't know if this is an android thing or just bad bluetooth software on the gs4g. Sometimes once the car is turned off, the phone still sends all the notification sounds to bluetooth. I know this because when there are no sounds toggling off bt will fix it. The answer was to simply uncheck the bt audio option on the phone for the ford sync connection.
I still have not figured out how to get the phone to stop randomly disconnecting frpm ford sync in the middle of calls or even having to be manually connected to bt devices in the first place. I thonl maube the bt stack in this rom is just really poorly written.
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I have issues too with BT auto connecting with a Sony Headset. I would agree that the BT stack is f'ked on this ROM. I have CY6 on my G1 & it never ever had issues with my headset. I'd just turn my headset on, turn BT, wait for magic & play pandora.

I feel you on that one. we all just need to wait for some good roms to come, which is really soon. i have the app2sd app which helps but i do have lag (at times) but for me tegrak overclock, galaxy tuner, and sgs tools. all help a lot.

App2sd didn't help me much. Instead I partitioned the card and used link2sd.
That worked for a while but then i started getting storage full notices again.
So today I also used the fota fix which clears up 250mb all by itself. And I also ised titanium to freeze some system bloatware apps so they won't run in the background.
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I have had NONE of the issues everyone is talking about.. additionally i've removed all of the bloatware, original ROM and SD card on phone, and it's snappy as heck.

I have not had any random bt disconnects since freezing some sytem apps and doing the fota fix. Only been a day but the phone is running like a dream w/those fixes so far.
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I feel you on that one. we all just need to wait for some good roms to come, which is really soon. i have the app2sd app which helps but i do have lag (at times) but for me tegrak overclock, galaxy tuner, and sgs tools. all help a lot.
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you're using all those with your sgs 4g? I've heard of sgs tools creating issues (namely, camera) with the 4g.

Oh and +1 for the wifi issue, although it's only happened to me once I think. Then again, I don't use wifi very often.

I'm not sure if it was sgs tool's fault but ever since i used it my phone has been acting up so i might have to flash krylons stock rom. Now i have like no available ram memory, recording fails constantly, video that actually does record make the video player crash a lot, touch wiz no longer works, wifi always has an error, and i can't set ringtones anymore. Ill ive done on this phone is change the gallery, camera, and touch wiz through sgs tools and now its acting up a lot. I wish i can flash the rom now but my stupid computer says download error once i get to around 50%. I seriously learned my lesson, I'm not gonna mess with things that i don't really understand.
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heartspains88 said:
I have had NONE of the issues everyone is talking about.. additionally i've removed all of the bloatware, original ROM and SD card on phone, and it's snappy as heck.
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Can you please provide a list of what you actually removed? I'm familiar with what's bloat on the evo, but not on this device.
In a few days i'll be helping someone root their device along with installing a bunch of actually useful programs. This person is not interested in a custom rom/kernel, but getting rid of some of the stock bloat would be great.
Thanks!

Theres another weird thing I noticed about sgs4g, when you turned data off signal doesnt come on or takes a long time... Anybody else getting that and mine is stock no root nothing
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Since we're talking signal in here...sitting at work, my G1 got great signal, now with my SG4G I bounce between 1 and two bars...
Do the SG4Gs only use 4G or Edge?

[Q] Whatsapp get stuck in wifi

Hey fellow wp7 lovers.
Lately ive been using a lot of messaging on whatsapp. I can chat fine on 3G but whenever i switched over to wifi... the message either gets stuck on delivering (1 line) ... or simply just shows the clock (not delivered)
Solution was always to switch 3G back on or turn on/off the wifi...
Its becoming quite tedious really...
Is anyone else experiencing this issue?? Or anyone know of a better solution?
(dont really want to use my 3G lately as its closely approaching my limit)

Got exactly the same issue. Don't know where i'm talking about really, but recently the thought hit me that maybe it is because when you come out of stand-by mode and send a message seconds later, your phone wants to send it over WI-FI, which might not be possible yet since it's still trying to connect, which then maybe results in a message not able to be sent and ends up being stuck on your phone, even though your phone connects to WI-FI succesfully after a while.
I usually turn off 3g, open the app, en most of the times it helps, which doesn't make sense at all. I am not sure, anyway. Haven't paid too much attention to it. Sometimes I just know its the WhatssAppserver, but I can't tell every time, and that makes it difficult to research the exact cause.

I really hope whatsapp releases an update and irons out its issues. Whatsapp on WP7 sucks.

It isn't that bad! It works, and thats more then we had. However, I don't understand why they can't manage to get simple things right...

hm i wonder if this is design flaw.. or purely just to save battery...
Coz on the android whatsapp, the internet is always connected even when on locked screen but on wp7 its not! The only solution is to use 3G!
This makes whatsapp useless if you only have wifi available... >< so much for instant messaging
Later on i found out ur wifi STAYS connected (even when in lock screen) when you plug it in to charge.... so thats the only workaround

so can we petition microsoft to add wifi on all the time in the next update??
OR does anyone know of an app that always require wifi connection?
(as described in this thread - http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-7-os-discussion/179861.htm)

Hm another quick note.....
how come whatsapp on ANDROID is so frickin fast!!!!! On iphone it takes about 5s to load into it. WP7 about 7s....and ANDROID is INSTANT!!!!
Lol is WP7 and APPLE so closed off that we cannot integrate whatsapp more into the OS? bah

App updates hang / delayed notifications

Recently on my Note 10+ (SM-N975U1) running stock Pie and Dec 1 2019 update, I have been experience 2 issues.
Notifications for some apps are delayed
App updates hang on Google Play Store
For the app updates, they stall with "Download Pending" or the download stalls with <100% complete.
Resolution steps that have NOT worked
Clearing cache and data for Google Play Store
Rebooting phone
Rebooting into Safe Mode
Changing from Wifi to Cell Network Data and vice versa
Stop/starting app updates
Current Workaround
Closing/swiping the Google Play Store and opening it again. It will eventually complete downloading after multiple attempts and install/update an app - you will have to repeat this continuously for every app you want to install or update.
Is there anyway to debug this without doing a complete reset?

This is a problem I've had on many phones over the last few years. It took me a while to figure it out but it's bluetooth related. More specifically, I had the "Dynamic Lock" option enabled on my Windows 10 work laptop (which basically just locks my pc when my phone gets far enough away). I disabled this and now all my notifications come immediately and play store updates work as they should. I realize that you may not have that enabled and if that is the case then turn off your bluetooth for a while and see what happens. It worked for me and several others on the samsung community forum.

mtweisenbarger777 said:
This is a problem I've had on many phones over the last few years. It took me a while to figure it out but it's bluetooth related. More specifically, I had the "Dynamic Lock" option enabled on my Windows 10 work laptop (which basically just locks my pc when my phone gets far enough away). I disabled this and now all my notifications come immediately and play store updates work as they should. I realize that you may not have that enabled and if that is the case then turn off your bluetooth for a while and see what happens. It worked for me and several others on the samsung community forum.
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Thank you! I turned off Bluetooth but nothing happened but after I rebooted with Bluetooth off everything started to work again. Is there a permanent fix for this? I am assuming turning back on Bluetooth will cause this to happen again? The strange thing this never happened to my Note 8.

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Thank you! I turned off Bluetooth but nothing happened but after I rebooted with Bluetooth off everything started to work again. Is there a permanent fix for this? I am assuming turning back on Bluetooth will cause this to happen again? The strange thing this never happened to my Note 8.
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I have no idea why this happens. What I do know I have had this issue on LG phones, Pixels, and Motorola's. It isn't a Samsung thing. I think it's an Android Bluetooth issue.

This is an old thread - but in case someone else finds it, I came across someone's suspicions in another thread that their Plantronics headset was causing some kind of problem with their Bluetooth. I began unplugging my Savi headset when not in use and it seems to help... YMMV.
This has been going on since Pie; made me upgrade from my Note 8 to Note 10 and it came right back. Infuriating.
You may also want to try to rub a lucky stone and do some chanting as well, because it's about as effective as hoping for a fix after all this time.

bluetooth running in the background?

I have a rooted Note 4 running 5.1.1. Recently, I began having trouble with its Bluetooth functionality. The audio would be very choppy regardless of which app was being used on the phone. I went through the process of clearing the cache many times, restarting the phone, etc., but still nothing has worked...but this isn't the purpose of this thread (though any suggestions related to fixing the problem will still be appreciated). I noticed yesterday and again today that Bluetooth is still running on the phone after a restart even though Bluetooth is turned off in the settings. In other words, when I go to the Applications Manger in the settings and swipe over to the tab showing which processes are running, Bluetooth is listed there. I only turn on Bluetooth when I need it so since it was off, it was surprising to see it listed as running. Has anyone else experienced this and does anyone have an idea why?
I'm also seeing other apps running even though I haven't used them. One is called "PageBuddyNotiSvc", and then there is "Direct pen input" (I have an SPen but I haven't used it in months), and then there was Textra which I have installed but rarely use (it's not my default SMS application even). I don't recall seeing these showing up in the App Manager in the past---especially not the first two. If I stop them, they seem to stay off but I'm still curious as to why they, along with Bluetooth, are running in the background in the first place.

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