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Hello all,
With how big the buzz is on the new Moto Droid, and how awesome the reviews have been on it so far, I'm hoping the modding community would attack it like a wolf on a sheep.
The question of the day though, is where will the modders conglomerate? It's not a HTC phone, so of course it wouldn't be on XDA (though I wish it was, because the android community here is first class awesome).
Why not create a sister site of XDA called droid-developers.com (or any name really, i wrote this because android-developers.com is taken). We could move all of the android forums and posts over to the sister site (which would definitely save bandwidth here on XDA), and that way the devs can have a one stop area for all android development, not just HTC phones. They could then just create new forums for other phones, like the liquid a1, motorola droid, samsung galaxy, etc..
If we have different sites for different manufacturers, the dev and mod community will be broken apart on different sites, whereas they could all be centrally located on one site.
Having all the android devs in one location not only helps form a community, but it also makes it a one stop location for everything android modding and developing. Others have tried doing so, but each attempt failed because there was no backing. If XDA made the site, it would have the backing of XDA, and with them moving all the current android forums over to the new site, it would be instant 100% backing, as that is where the devs would go for their current projects that are already posted, and any new projects.
As it stands now, there is a different forum for dream/magic, yet a lot of the posts get double posted in each because they are applicable to each. when someone is working on an application, do they choose to put it in the Dream section, Magic section, or Hero section? With it's own complete forum, there could be a general app section, etc..
Lets use an example. The Samsung Galaxy. It was the second android phone released. It's a great phone, but because it's not made by HTC, and therefore has no place on XDA, there is no modding community for it at all. A great device (and really the only one with a good amount of internal storage) has no hopes for the modding future because there is no central location for devs to conglomerate. If it was made by HTC, it would have flourished in the modding community simply because it could be discussed and worked on here at XDA.
The main thing, is they're modding Android, not the specific device. Sure each device has it's own quirks, but Android as a whole is what the topic is about. Why limit it to just HTC phones?
So please, if you agree that this will help the android community, vote in the poll, and voice your opinion by posting in this thread.
Well, as I find the proposal fair enough I've voted yes, but I'm not at all convinced about that domain.
If you intend to move devs from this site (which is well known in the android scene) to a new one, and you use as a reason that this was htc specific, you can't possibly try to name the new site droid-developers in direct reference to a motorola phone.
it wasn't used for a motorola reference. android-developers.com is already taken, as is android-devs.com.
If you have any other suggestions for domain names please post them.
Edit: fixed the first post to reflect what i stated here about the name
Are the mods here not going to create a section for this phone?
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
PCTechNerd said:
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
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Have the mods said this somewhere?
livejamie said:
Have the mods said this somewhere?
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Lol, it's the origins of XDA. Look at all the phones listed on the forum. They're all HTC phones. XDA is another name for an older htc phone. This site was made and is used only for HTC phones.
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There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
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then why is there xperia x1
JJbdoggg said:
then why is there xperia x1
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Because the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 was made by HTC.
How about making an Android section on this forum that has every Android device, HTC or not? Still under the XDA-Developers.com domain though.
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Because the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 was made by HTC.
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doh should have checked it out
Tawm said:
How about making an Android section on this forum that has every Android device, HTC or not? Still under the XDA-Developers.com domain though.
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That wouldn't work also, as it would make the main site very clustered. the current per phone forum layout is great, and I would hope the new site would maintain the same layout. Each phone definitely needs it's own forum for hardware hacks (like rooting, SPL's, custom ROM's, etc..) but with all Android devices in one place, it's easier for the community to discuss, mod, etc.. from device to device.
you got another yes here. i would like to see all android being supported.
I too would like to see all Android supported. Especially seeings how a lot of the development will apply to most devices.
I personally hope for a new site to offload some traffic. With android coming to more carriers there is bound to be much heavier traffic.
XDA has been invaluable to me since I got my titan a few years back.
As I have been considering the DROID as an upgrade, I would feel much better about that choice knowing it had a great community to support it despite not being an HTC device.
The same could apply to Windows Mobile though. There are great WinMo devices that aren't supported by the xda-dev's. They can only do so much.
I ststed this in another thread. ModMyMoto will have a section for Droid and Cliq. As far as the others Im sure a site such as PPCGeeks will have the other devices covered.
But I wouldnt be chosing a phone based on the presence of a forum. There will always be someone modding a device if it exists, and finding info is easy enough with google.
If all the devices were located on the same forum, you would have all kinds of tardos flashing files to incorrect devices.
If youve been on XDA for a while you know that these conversations come and go. XDA does their thing, they are the big dogs on the block so its not a big deal if it takes another site to fill in the gaps that XDA cant cover.
I post most of my work on alldroid.org because I would like to use that site for software related things and then use XDA for hardware related things for my G1. I think once more non-HTC phones hit the stores there will be a big influx of people looking for a site to mod on and I dont think XDA will be able to support it unless they dramatically change their ways.
Was going through my past subscriptions and I came upon this thread. Oh how the tides have changed
Ahhh this brings back so many memories. It's great to see how much XDA has progressed over the years!
No Sony Xperia Tablet S dedicated forum? Seems like this device is integrated on the Tablet S section. It has been out since September, had some issues and sold well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
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Well posted a comment let´s hope we get a separate Xperia tablet section soon though i think we might get a 4.2 update sooner
There are a few metrics behind adding a new forum mate. The device needs roughly 1,000 hits in the 'Request a New Forum' thread to be added, unless there is an anticipated high demand, such as for US major carrier releases.
Somewhat unfortunately, this puts International and unsubsidised devices at a disadvantage. My best suggestion would be to search for Tablet S in the 'Android Hacking' forum and, if you don't already turn one up. Start a thread to consolidate all the known information about the Tablet S and associated exploits.
If you don't have the 'popularity' for a forum, that doesn't stop you having an awesome one-stop shop thread!
Hello, maybe a dumb question but what is the difference between the two threads in the development section?
Thanks in advance
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
i never really got it either.
Based on your subject "Difference between nexus 5 and nexus 5 original", I think the forums confused you a bit. It's not "Nexus 5" vs. "Nexus 5 Original", it's "Development" vs. "Original Development".
I think the difference is that the Original Dev. section is only for ROMs/Kernels/Tools etc. that you personally created yourself OR is the official release for a popular "team" ROM, such as CyanogenMod or AOKP. At least that's how I understand it. The only topics I've seen on any Original Dev forum usually are custom kernels, custom ROMs (as in official CM/PA/AOKP releases), and rooting tools that devs have come up with.
The non-original forum contains ROMs or kernels which are modified using a base, or starting point, created by an "original" dev, and more often, a team of devs.
The best way to look at it is that the "Original Development" section is work created solely from the developer's own ideas. The "Development" is more or least work that is taken from another developer and is used by another developer to input additional "stuff" to their own liking. It's like saying buying a custom pc made by your friend and you would take it and take out or put in additional parts to enhance the device. :good:
I posted a poll on the Pixel XL forum. Please vote if you have an opinion on this.
Right now on XDA we have separate forums for the Pixel and Pixel XL. For the first time (that I can think of) we have two identical Android phones in two sizes.I don't know how popular iPhones forums are on XDA but they don't have separate forums for the regular and plus versions. There isn't iPhone forums on XDA.
It seems like both Pixel and Pixel XL forms already have topics covering both devices. What are your thoughts on combining forums?
In my opinion, it depends on if the ROM, kernel and theme development will differ between the two phones. In theory, it would seem that the development for each would be identical because the internals are identical. However, I'm not sure how the screen size/resolution will play into that.
Plus, accessories such as cases and screen protectors for the Pixel vs the Pixel XL are also going to be different. This might make the "Accessories" section more confusing if the two forums were combined.
Yes, Combine
I'd say, combine everything but the Accessories.
PSA, the Galaxy Tab Pro series has a combined xda forum, for the 8", 10", and 12" sizes
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Please see moderator position on this matter:
Stephen said:
I'll bring this up with the forum moderators for this forum and see what they think. My personal view is, the Pixel XL and Pixel phones should get a lot of traffic, based on the previous phones, I think 2 forums are warranted. We could get confusion when people are asking questions in the Q&A section for example regarding which phone they ware wanting support for etc. Also we would need to find out if the ROM's have different basis as well, if they did then it would almost certainly need two forums.
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Woody said:
Agree with @Stephen ...but there are a few caveats that we need to look at first and unfortunately that can't be done until some development begins. First, are there any nuances in the architecture that differentiate the X from the XL? On the front face, only the display and battery are different, but as we all know that doesn't mean the rest is identical. Maybe there is something buried deep in the kernel or a line in one of the props that may seem miniscule, but throws everything out of wack.
Something that we can possibly look at in the future would be combination, but with some restructure. What I mean here is that we can have the Guides/News, Accessories, Themes/Apps/Mods and QA sections combined, but separate the X and XL Development sections from one another. That will make sure that if you are just asking a general question or need a guide, you can look in the combined section. But if you are looking for a specific ROM build, you will have to go into your specific arena.
Ultimately, we need to get devices in hand and a better analysis of the system dumps that we currently have. Those will tell the tale.
Oh and someone said something about the Search Bar. That made my day. I think that I have to log off now since my keyboard is soaked with my tears of laughter and I don't want to short it out and have to explain why to IT.
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Combine if...
If there is a simple way for devs to make all work compatible for both - Combine
I would like to cast another vote to have a combined subforum as well. Yes, there are some differences between the devices, but the development that has been happening so far (dePixel8, SuperSU and TWRP, to name a few examples) have either worked for both devices or the developers have published separate builds for each device. I like the idea of a "Unified" sections, much like the Samsung Galaxy S4 subforum that exists. It can be at the OP/developer's discretion to create a release in the unified section, or just for one specific device.
@Stephen, now that some time has passed and development is very similar for both devices, is it possible to combine the forums into something like the S4 has? There has been a lot of double posting between the two separate devices, in both general questions as well as development.
Well, I want to know what this is referencing.
Oh and someone said something about the Search Bar. That made my day. I think that I have to log off now since my keyboard is soaked with my tears of laughter and I don't want to short it out and have to explain why to IT.
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Yea I definitely think they should be combined. They should each have their own accessories forum obv but everything else should be joined. For the development forums there should be a requirement that when you post a ROM/Mod/whatever that you start the title with either
"Pixel"
"Pixel XL"
"BOTH"
To me it's a no brainier. Would be so much easier using this format and joining the forums
I have already combined them in my head. I treat them all the same. So yea, one would be awesome.
Please combine! Im guessing we're missing some great threads and info, and they are as well.
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I can see the validity of both sides but we are definitely missing some very good information that is present on the XL forums that hold true for the Pixel. For instance, this thread by a forum moderator https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/guide-how-to-unlock-root-flash-pixel-xl-t3507886 which to me is a redo of the Heisenberg 5x and 6P threads that were so valuable for the past year. But perhaps they should ask the devs as they are the ones who will have to deal with differentiating the devices, or perhaps making it easier for them if it holds for both devices. Personally, I don't believe there is enough traffic in either to warrant separate forums, but that is my opinion only and I'm sure the mods have their own thoughts.
So who do we actually go to in order to see if this is something they would even consider
How to find out which device have most active developer support and all custom ROMs etc etc..
Or in other words, which device developer use most.
Because everytime I buy new device there isn't any developer support. Now using Lenovo Vibe p1m, but device forum not created here in XDA.
Buying new device next year January.
Not asking for device suggestion, only wanted to find out how to find most developer supported Android Device.
amit.tiger12 said:
How to find out which device have most active developer support and all custom ROMs etc etc..
Or in other words, which device developer use most.
Because everytime I buy new device there isn't any developer support. Now using Lenovo Vibe p1m, but device forum not created here in XDA.
Buying new device next year January.
Not asking for device suggestion, only wanted to find out how to find most developer supported Android Device.
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In 2013 I saw a device called mi2s for the first time, and its parameters were very good and it had a cute interface. But its forum was not as active in xda, though in en.miui.com/forum the development and themes/apps sections were active.
Well then I had to have a bigger screen and tried to buy a samsung note 3 in 2014-2015. In Turkey there was only exynos version sold in stores. I looked at its forum it was nearly empty. Then I looked at snapdragon forum. It was very active (users+developers). So I bought a note3 from abroad. And thanks to devs in xda, the note 3 snapdragon forums are still active and we can get newest updates from other devices' ports. Though some devs left, new devs came, the cycle didnt stop (and I hop it will not:fingers-crossed: )
In conclusion, I think it is the users' duty to look and search for forums one by one and find a device which is "developeing" as he/she wants. All in all, you are not expected to develop or help in development. All you do mostly is to find link, download and install/flash. I think the duty of searching is infinitesimally small when you compare it to the one that developers do.
Try looking at the forums. As my example above, there might be even differences in development between different versions of same devices.
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amit.tiger12 said:
How to find out which device have most active developer support and all custom ROMs etc etc..
Or in other words, which device developer use most.
Because everytime I buy new device there isn't any developer support. Now using Lenovo Vibe p1m, but device forum not created here in XDA.
Buying new device next year January.
Not asking for device suggestion, only wanted to find out how to find most developer supported Android Device.
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Probably the Nexus line, alternatively OnePlus or all latest flagships in general (HTC 10 or Samsung S7). Chances are low for good custom ROM support if you buy cheap devices.
I found, Snapdragon devices have most custom ROMs compared to MediaTek and other.
So anyone looking for mobile device and developer support should buy Snapdragon device?