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Hello all,
With how big the buzz is on the new Moto Droid, and how awesome the reviews have been on it so far, I'm hoping the modding community would attack it like a wolf on a sheep.
The question of the day though, is where will the modders conglomerate? It's not a HTC phone, so of course it wouldn't be on XDA (though I wish it was, because the android community here is first class awesome).
Why not create a sister site of XDA called droid-developers.com (or any name really, i wrote this because android-developers.com is taken). We could move all of the android forums and posts over to the sister site (which would definitely save bandwidth here on XDA), and that way the devs can have a one stop area for all android development, not just HTC phones. They could then just create new forums for other phones, like the liquid a1, motorola droid, samsung galaxy, etc..
If we have different sites for different manufacturers, the dev and mod community will be broken apart on different sites, whereas they could all be centrally located on one site.
Having all the android devs in one location not only helps form a community, but it also makes it a one stop location for everything android modding and developing. Others have tried doing so, but each attempt failed because there was no backing. If XDA made the site, it would have the backing of XDA, and with them moving all the current android forums over to the new site, it would be instant 100% backing, as that is where the devs would go for their current projects that are already posted, and any new projects.
As it stands now, there is a different forum for dream/magic, yet a lot of the posts get double posted in each because they are applicable to each. when someone is working on an application, do they choose to put it in the Dream section, Magic section, or Hero section? With it's own complete forum, there could be a general app section, etc..
Lets use an example. The Samsung Galaxy. It was the second android phone released. It's a great phone, but because it's not made by HTC, and therefore has no place on XDA, there is no modding community for it at all. A great device (and really the only one with a good amount of internal storage) has no hopes for the modding future because there is no central location for devs to conglomerate. If it was made by HTC, it would have flourished in the modding community simply because it could be discussed and worked on here at XDA.
The main thing, is they're modding Android, not the specific device. Sure each device has it's own quirks, but Android as a whole is what the topic is about. Why limit it to just HTC phones?
So please, if you agree that this will help the android community, vote in the poll, and voice your opinion by posting in this thread.

Well, as I find the proposal fair enough I've voted yes, but I'm not at all convinced about that domain.
If you intend to move devs from this site (which is well known in the android scene) to a new one, and you use as a reason that this was htc specific, you can't possibly try to name the new site droid-developers in direct reference to a motorola phone.

it wasn't used for a motorola reference. android-developers.com is already taken, as is android-devs.com.
If you have any other suggestions for domain names please post them.
Edit: fixed the first post to reflect what i stated here about the name

Are the mods here not going to create a section for this phone?

There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.

PCTechNerd said:
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
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Have the mods said this somewhere?

livejamie said:
Have the mods said this somewhere?
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Lol, it's the origins of XDA. Look at all the phones listed on the forum. They're all HTC phones. XDA is another name for an older htc phone. This site was made and is used only for HTC phones.

PCTechNerd said:
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
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then why is there xperia x1

JJbdoggg said:
then why is there xperia x1
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Because the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 was made by HTC.

How about making an Android section on this forum that has every Android device, HTC or not? Still under the XDA-Developers.com domain though.

PCTechNerd said:
Because the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 was made by HTC.
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doh should have checked it out

Tawm said:
How about making an Android section on this forum that has every Android device, HTC or not? Still under the XDA-Developers.com domain though.
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That wouldn't work also, as it would make the main site very clustered. the current per phone forum layout is great, and I would hope the new site would maintain the same layout. Each phone definitely needs it's own forum for hardware hacks (like rooting, SPL's, custom ROM's, etc..) but with all Android devices in one place, it's easier for the community to discuss, mod, etc.. from device to device.

you got another yes here. i would like to see all android being supported.

I too would like to see all Android supported. Especially seeings how a lot of the development will apply to most devices.
I personally hope for a new site to offload some traffic. With android coming to more carriers there is bound to be much heavier traffic.

XDA has been invaluable to me since I got my titan a few years back.
As I have been considering the DROID as an upgrade, I would feel much better about that choice knowing it had a great community to support it despite not being an HTC device.

The same could apply to Windows Mobile though. There are great WinMo devices that aren't supported by the xda-dev's. They can only do so much.

I ststed this in another thread. ModMyMoto will have a section for Droid and Cliq. As far as the others Im sure a site such as PPCGeeks will have the other devices covered.
But I wouldnt be chosing a phone based on the presence of a forum. There will always be someone modding a device if it exists, and finding info is easy enough with google.
If all the devices were located on the same forum, you would have all kinds of tardos flashing files to incorrect devices.

If youve been on XDA for a while you know that these conversations come and go. XDA does their thing, they are the big dogs on the block so its not a big deal if it takes another site to fill in the gaps that XDA cant cover.
I post most of my work on alldroid.org because I would like to use that site for software related things and then use XDA for hardware related things for my G1. I think once more non-HTC phones hit the stores there will be a big influx of people looking for a site to mod on and I dont think XDA will be able to support it unless they dramatically change their ways.

Was going through my past subscriptions and I came upon this thread. Oh how the tides have changed

Ahhh this brings back so many memories. It's great to see how much XDA has progressed over the years!

[Q] Which is the best phone for frequently changing ROMs and development ?

I've always favoured Samsung to be easy to install custom ROMs on. Im thinking of getting a new phone and my preference was a HTC One M8. But I foound less development and ROM catalougs comapared to samsung…
So Which do you reckon woud be the current best phone or some model to be released in the nearby future that wid be apt for ROM evaluation and development???
I've heard rumours on the Nexus 6 and Android Silver. Any idea if it will be good???

Hello,
There are 3 threads devoted to discussions about devices, please repost your question in one of these three threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
Thanks!

[Completed] LG L50

i have been looking a lot of information about this device and then only thing i could do is rooting it .... so what i and a lot of L series users want is to you pay more attention to this series because all we want custom roms and official support ... you have help me a lot with other devices but with my new one a cant :/ so please we will be so grateful if you start working in this LG series .... thanks a lot.

Hi
Thanks for writing to us at XDA Assist. It isn't up to XDA Developers to decide which devices get the most development, XDA simply provides a place for people to get together and share their work and ideas. It's up to the developers to make the decision of which device(s) they want to develop for. Unfortunately low-spec devices such as the L50 rarely receive any development, because they're low-spec they're also low popularity, and developers generally develop for popular devices to make it worth their while. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Even though you may not receive any custom ROMs for your phone, if you can root it you can still customise it through the use of the Xposed Fraemwork and modules. I'd suggest you take a look:
Xposed - General info, versions & changelog
Xposed Framework Modules
Good luck with your phone.
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[Completed] Regarding buying a new budget phone with dev support

Hey all! I want to buy a new mid range phone which is decent, but also has decent developer support, and is small in size (~5 in).
Not necessarily specific, but i wanted your help in getting pointed to the right direction of a developer friendly company/ a phone which has active dev support and is not necessarily a flagship, since i like to tinker a lot and install custom roms, xposed modules etc. Thank you!

XDA Visitor said:
Hey all! I want to buy a new mid range phone which is decent, but also has decent developer support, and is small in size (~5 in).
Not necessarily specific, but i wanted your help in getting pointed to the right direction of a developer friendly company/ a phone which has active dev support and is not necessarily a flagship, since i like to tinker a lot and install custom roms, xposed modules etc. Thank you!
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Hi,
Kindly register yourself at XDA post which you can query in Android Q&A,Help and Troubleshooting .

Slow or No development?

Hi,
So i remember last time when k20 was launched the development was like rocket, even though its has bootloader lock/hard brick issues.
With k30 nothing is happening not even close to k20, like no development is gonna happen am seriously geeting Asus Zenfone 6z vibes now.
But i still hope its gonna be start moving anytime soon:fingers-crossed:, if this month goes dry, i think i am gonna have no choice than selling this device.

Hope this worth it.
https://www.xda-developers.com/poco-x2-custom-rom-kernel-developer-program/amp/

bot88 said:
Hi,
So i remember last time when k20 was launched the development was like rocket, even though its has bootloader lock/hard brick issues.
With k30 nothing is happening not even close to k20, like no development is gonna happen am seriously geeting Asus Zenfone 6z vibes now.
But i still hope its gonna be start moving anytime soon:fingers-crossed:, if this month goes dry, i think i am gonna have no choice than selling this device.
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I think we should see a lot of things moving in after 72 hours, because that is when most of the guys will be able to unlock their bootloaders. We have 15 devs or more who got these devices so we should see a lot of development once bootloader is unlocked.

This thread makes no sense. There was a bootloader unlocking issue which has caused the delays. Also POCO has sent the devices to developers which is a great initiative to begin development on this device. If you wanna sell the device go ahead and stop ranting as it creates a negative impression in the forum.

ir4hul said:
This thread makes no sense. There was a bootloader unlocking issue which has caused the delays. Also POCO has sent the devices to developers which is a great initiative to begin development on this device. If you wanna sell the device go ahead and stop ranting as it creates a negative impression in the forum.
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Boootloader locked issues, and yet there is only one thread and i don't even faced it. No body did on eu community as well.
Asus sent devices to developers as well, i can see how much development is there with one lineage os and one kernel.
This thread is not rant, you are who consider a concern as rant. Non polite shills like you make xda look bad, no wonder people are moving to telegram.
I don't need your advice upon weather i should sell my device or not.
Next time just scroll past.

bot88 said:
...Next time just scroll past.
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Wow, why do you have to be so rude/aggressive, man?
Anyway, the phone is not even up for sale in many European countries including mine, so no wonder there is a lack of development for it...

bot88 said:
Boootloader locked issues, and yet there is only one thread and i don't even faced it. No body did on eu community as well.
Asus sent devices to developers as well, i can see how much development is there with one lineage os and one kernel.
This thread is not rant, you are who consider a concern as rant. Non polite shills like you make xda look bad, no wonder people are moving to telegram.
I don't need your advice upon weather i should sell my device or not.
Next time just scroll past.
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You do realise this is the POCO X2 forum and not the K30 forum? Despite being the same devices POCO X2 got the bootloader unlock at a later time. And all I repeat all of the users have faced the issue including the developers.
POCO has the history which Asus didn't. POCO F1 was a sucessful device. The K20 had a single forum hence so much development. Since the same device has been divided into two this causes problems.
And please read your own post, you are the one who's saying where are the ROMs without even knowing the reason. Saying i'm going to sell the device sounds like a threat more than a concern.

ir4hul said:
You do realise this is the POCO X2 forum and not the K30 forum? Despite being the same devices POCO X2 got the bootloader unlock at a later time. And all I repeat all of the users have faced the issue including the developers.
POCO has the history which Asus didn't. POCO F1 was a sucessful device. The K20 had a single forum hence so much development. Since the same device has been divided into two this causes problems.
And please read your own post, you are the one who's saying where are the ROMs without even knowing the reason. Saying i'm going to sell the device sounds like a threat more than a concern.
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Asus 5z has a history too, what happens at the time of 6z, Poco f1 is different category ask the company ceo,
Poco x2 fourm not k30? Yet i have bought this phone from flipkart India, and able to unlcok bootloader, install twrp from chinese dev and now using MIUI EU 11, you don't even know what are you talking about.
I never said where i
are ROMs, by slow development i meant no beta/alpha twrp or no gsi.
How come me going to sell my device become threat to you, are you poco? Are you xiaomi? Did i bought device from you?
Me selling or keeping my device is non-of your concern. I just showed my concerns and opinion of device not worth it without any development signs.

h8Aramex said:
Wow, why do you have to be so rude/aggressive, man?
Anyway, the phone is not even up for sale in many European countries including mine, so no wonder there is a lack of development for it...
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(Saying politely) please read the context/parent(or whatever they say it) comment, i deal aggressive people with aggressiveness.

bot88 said:
Asus 5z has a history too, what happens at the time of 6z, Poco f1 is different category ask the company ceo,
Poco x2 fourm not k30? Yet i have bought this phone from flipkart India, and able to unlcok bootloader, install twrp from chinese dev and now using MIUI EU 11, you don't even know what are you talking about.
I never said where i
are ROMs, by slow development i meant no beta/alpha twrp or no gsi.
How come me going to sell my device become threat to you, are you poco? Are you xiaomi? Did i bought device from you?
Me selling or keeping my device is non-of your concern. I just showed my concerns and opinion of device not worth it without any development signs.
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Have it your way, good luck.

ir4hul said:
This thread makes no sense. There was a bootloader unlocking issue which has caused the delays. Also POCO has sent the devices to developers which is a great initiative to begin development on this device. If you wanna sell the device go ahead and stop ranting as it creates a negative impression in the forum.
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iirc the Redmi Note 8 Pro was also given to devs for development however with no success. I can understand his concern.
It's too early to access development as ir4hul says though..
I wish people would just wait a couple of weeks and have a look at development progress before commiting to purchasing a device if Custom Rom is such a priority.
I sincerely hope the POCO X2 experiences the community love the F1 saw.

Check out PE site!
https://download.pixelexperience.org/phoenix
https://blog.pixelexperience.org/2020/03/march-review-gib-plus-sir-and-website-redesign/

Patience
Give it time bro. Bootloader unlock was just recently achieved, also developers have their own work to do ?. I'm sure it will be amazing development community within 2 months, just like poco f1

Maky-313 said:
iirc the Redmi Note 8 Pro was also given to devs for development however with no success. I can understand his concern.
It's too early to access development as ir4hul says though..
I wish people would just wait a couple of weeks and have a look at development progress before commiting to purchasing a device if Custom Rom is such a priority.
I sincerely hope the POCO X2 experiences the community love the F1 saw.
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Redmi Note 8 Pro was a different story I guess because of the MTK chipset. The devices were getting bricked easily and it became very difficult for developers to test.
But yea. I agree that it is too early to judge development of Poco X2.

check here: its already started
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-k30-5g
a working recovery has already been done, hope people from both forums collaborate together soon...
a unofficial LineageOS 17.1 port is already in ALPHA stage, hope we can boot it on poco x2 with very less effort