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On paper Realme 5 Pro has a great hardware profile, but in reality its camera app is super lame and pretty much useless.
1. First of all, the stock camera app does not allow us to shoot in the most popular 16:9 ratio. Even the so called "Expert mode" is stuck at 4:3 and there is no way to expertly change this. Are you kidding me??? What kind of an expert would shoot in 4:3 anyway??
2. Second, the camera app does not offer much of a choice between different resolutions. We are stuck with only three options - 48MP, 12MP and the super small (and thus completely useless) 2MP macro. And that's all, folks... Even my old 2014 phone offers a plethora of resolutions to choose from. Not Realme 5 Pro, though.
3. Third, the camera app does not offer electronic image stabilization (EIS) for 4K video. Again, it is almost year 2020 and 4K is THE standard these days. Not offering image stabilization for 4K is like not offering 4K at all. I know that the hardware allows it, so sit on your butts and release an update that offers EIS for 4K video!
4. Last, but not least - there are no Gcam or Sapdragon Camera app distributions that work without problems on Realme 5 Pro. So not only the stock camera app sucks, but on top of that third party apps do not work properly with it as well.
So far Realme 5 Pro's camera app has been an enormous disappointment!
I really hope that the people form the software department of Realme would read this and would offer the necessary updates, so people would finally be able to make use of this phone's cameras. Owners should start sending them messages about all these issues.
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You can change to 16:9 in settings.
Tempete said:
You can change to 16:9 in settings.
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No, you cannot change to 16:9 in the settings.
You only have three options to choose from:
- 4:3
- 1:1
- Full screen (which is something like 19.5:9)
See the attached image below.
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On paper Realme 5 Pro has a great hardware profile, but in reality its camera app is super lame and pretty much useless.
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I think realme 5 pro, with gcam, is one the best camera you can have at its price range. Actually, forget about comparing it with the similarly priced phones. So go ahead, borrow your friend's galaxy s9 or s10 as I did, compare the result side by side on large pc monitor and tell me your finding.
1. First of all, the stock camera app does not allow us to shoot in the most popular 16:9 ratio. Even the so called "Expert mode" is stuck at 4:3 and there is no way to expertly change this. Are you kidding me??? What kind of an expert would shoot in 4:3 anyway??
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Almost all image sensor chip in modern smartphone like Sony IMX586 in realme 5 pro is 4:3 ratio. So is the sensor in mirrorless MFT camera. So 4:3 image will give you native and full resolution. Any other ratio like 16:9 is cropped out from 4:3 image, that means less area covered vertically and thus less mega pixel. You can always crop to 16:9 format in software.
2. Second, the camera app does not offer much of a choice between different resolutions. We are stuck with only three options - 48MP, 12MP and the super small (and thus completely useless) 2MP macro. And that's all, folks... Even my old 2014 phone offers a plethora of resolutions to choose from. Not Realme 5 Pro, though.
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Again, do a little research and you'll see much more expensive phones are 12 MP. Why would you want other resolution like 8 / 6 / 4 MP? To save space? Or higher than 12 MP like 16 or 24 MP for example? Why do you think the most expensive phones in the market capped at 12 MP? Hint: higher MP does not mean better picture.
3. Third, the camera app does not offer electronic image stabilization (EIS) for 4K video. Again, it is almost year 2020 and 4K is THE standard these days. Not offering image stabilization for 4K is like not offering 4K at all. I know that the hardware allows it, so sit on your butts and release an update that offers EIS for 4K video!
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Which other phones in the price range of realme 5 pro that do EIS in 4K? A little suggestion, get a gimbal like DJI Osmo mobile 3 that cost a little over USD 100 and get much better result.
4. Last, but not least - there are no Gcam or Sapdragon Camera app distributions that work without problems on Realme 5 Pro. So not only the stock camera app sucks, but on top of that third party apps do not work properly with it as well.
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My gcam works fine here for photos. For video I use stock camera because it has EIS. If you mean the slow motion feature of gcam, look around and you'll see that feature doesn't work in other phones as well.
So far Realme 5 Pro's camera app has been an enormous disappointment!
I really hope that the people form the software department of Realme would read this and would offer the necessary updates, so people would finally be able to make use of this phone's cameras. Owners should start sending them messages about all these issues.
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You would have better luck doing that in realme official forum than here at xda.
Thank you for your reply, Gnusvol.
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I think realme 5 pro, with gcam, is one the best camera you can have at its price range.
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I totally disagree and you will find out why below.
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Actually, forget about comparing it with the similarly priced phones. So go ahead, borrow your friend's galaxy s9 or s10 as I did, compare the result side by side on large pc monitor and tell me your finding.
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My finding is TONS of very coarse noise in the shadows, mushy definition and blurred lines. This is what my finding is.
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Almost all image sensor chip in modern smartphone like Sony IMX586 in realme 5 pro is 4:3 ratio. So is the sensor in mirrorless MFT camera. So 4:3 image will give you native and full resolution. Any other ratio like 16:9 is cropped out from 4:3 image, that means less area covered vertically and thus less mega pixel. You can always crop to 16:9 format in software.
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I need in-camera 16:9, so I can do my frame compositing in the viewfinder, while I am shooting. I can't be bothered to crop 4:3 down to 16:9 in post production (which can lead to all sorts of trouble, like having to chop a subject's limb off). You need to know what the final result would be from the get go.
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Again, do a little research and you'll see much more expensive phones are 12 MP. Why would you want other resolution like 8 / 6 / 4 MP? To save space? Or higher than 12 MP like 16 or 24 MP for example? Why do you think the most expensive phones in the market capped at 12 MP? Hint: higher MP does not mean better picture.
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I know that higher Megapixels do not always equate to better quality picture. However, I shoot hundreds of photos daily and I need the smaller MP sizes to save memory and also to have faster speeds in post-processing (smaller photos load and render faster in PhotShop and LightRoom than 48MP or even 12MP photos). Having the option to choose from several file sizes is just good for general flexibility - and flexibility is a thing that is always nice to have.
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Which other phones in the price range of realme 5 pro that do EIS in 4K? A little suggestion, get a gimbal like DJI Osmo mobile 3 that cost a little over USD 100 and get much better result.
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I don't know which other phones do have EIS in 4K, I am a Realme 5 Pro owner and this is the only phone that I care about. And it so happens that this phone does not have EIS in 4K, which sucks.
If I wanted to carry a gimbal with me, I'd be better off carrying a bulky mirrorless camera with in-body-image-stabilization. A gimbal defies the purpose of shooting with a phone (which is the phone's pocket size, mobility and portability). Tripods, gimbals, steadicams, etc. are not needed and are a burden when you simply have EIS. So the guys from Realme should put their efforts in offering this option to the users.
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My gcam works fine here for photos. For video I use stock camera because it has EIS. If you mean the slow motion feature of gcam, look around and you'll see that feature doesn't work in other phones as well.
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Gcam doesn't work at all for video on my Realme 5 Pro. It crashes with slowmo, it does not offer EIS in 4K and it doesn't even offer 4K video recording. Also, the photo sizes can't be adjusted to my liking, just as with the stock camera app.
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Thank you for your reply, Gnusvol.
My finding is TONS of very coarse noise in the shadows, mushy definition and blurred lines. This is what my finding is.
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Which gcam variant are you talking about? I am using this one. It does 16:9 at 8.3 and 6 MP flawlessly and should address one of your concern.
I don't know which other phones do have EIS in 4K, I am a Realme 5 Pro owner and this is the only phone that I care about. And it so happens that this phone does not have EIS in 4K, which sucks.
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You said realme 5 pro is completely useless because of that one feature missing, and yet you can't, and will not, find any other phones that can do that. The title should be written like: "ALL phones that can't do EIS in 4K are completely useless". Good luck in finding the alternative, this year or even the next at this price range.
Gcam doesn't work at all for video on my Realme 5 Pro. It crashes with slowmo, it does not offer EIS and it doesn't even offer 4K video recording. Also, the photo sizes can't be adjusted to my liking, just as with the stock camera app.
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Video recording works fine with the version given above.
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Which gcam variant are you talking about? I am using this one. It does 16:9 at 8.3 and 6 MP flawlessly and should address one of your concern.
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I was using Gcam 7.2
Your older version of Gcam seems to offer 16:9 (which is nice!), however, there is still no way to shoot video in 4K with this version (see attached screenshot below). It only allows for 1080p, 720p and 480p - no 4K option to be seen on the horizon...
...and just because we can have 16:9 through older Google Camera versions, doesn't make Realme 5 Pro's stock camera app less useless. It is complete garbage and needs a ton of work before it can offer anything useful to the owners.
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You said realme 5 pro is completely useless because of that one feature missing, and yet you can't, and will not, find any other phones that can do that. The title should be written like: "ALL phones that can't do EIS in 4K are completely useless". Good luck in finding the alternative, this year or even the next at this price range.
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Phones with a Snapdragon processor (like Realme 5 Pro) are supposed to work in 4K with EIS, when using the Snapdragon Camera app. So, obviously the hardware allows it, and it is just a matter of writing the right software.
Unfortunately, like I said in my original post, there are no Sapdragon Camera app distributions that work on Realme 5 Pro. Or at least not yet. So, not only the stock camera app sucks, but on top of that good third party apps do not work properly with it as well.
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I was using Gcam 7.2
Your older version of Gcam seems to offer 16:9 (which is nice!), however, there is still no way to shoot video in 4K with this version (see attached screenshot below). It only allows for 1080p, 720p and 480p - no 4K option to be seen on the horizon...
...and just because we can have 16:9 through older Google Camera versions, doesn't make Realme 5 Pro's stock camera app less useless. It is complete garbage and needs a ton of work before it can offer anything useful to the owners.
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Complete garbage? Well, speak for yourself. I am the owner of this phone, and I think the stock camera is nice for shooting video in FHD 30 fps with EIS when I don't bring my dji gimbal. I don't shoot in 4K, only FHD. I'm sure the majority owner of realme 5 pro don't feel as strongly as you do about 4K video for a phone that cost only about USD 200-250 depending on the variant.
Phones with a Snapdragon processor (like Realme 5 Pro) are supposed to work in 4K with EIS, when using the Snapdragon Camera app. So, obviously the hardware allows it, and it is just a matter of writing the right software.
Unfortunately, like I said in my original post, there are no Sapdragon Camera app distributions that work on Realme 5 Pro. Or at least not yet. So, not only the stock camera app sucks, but on top of that good third party apps do not work properly with it as well.
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There are a lot of assumptions there. Name one phone with SD7xxx, SD6xx, or even the ones with SD8xx that can do EIS in 4K. Usually when a person says that the camera of phone A is "completely useless" or "complete garbage", he/she would ready to provide a proof that better phone B, C, or D do exist. And with that, I rest my case.
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Complete garbage? Well, speak for yourself. I am the owner of this phone, and I think the stock camera is nice for shooting video in FHD 30 fps with EIS when I don't bring my dji gimbal. I don't shoot in 4K, only FHD. I'm sure the majority owner of realme 5 pro don't feel as strongly as you do about 4K video for a phone that cost only about USD 200-250 depending on the variant.
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Are you telling me that the stock camera app is "nice" because users don't need to shoot 4K video anyway?
Are you telling me that just because YOU don't shoot in 4K, then everybody else shouldn't too?
Speak for yourself, buddy, because 4K is the new standard in video and if you are not shooting in 4K, you are just living in the past.
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There are a lot of assumptions there. Name one phone with SD7xxx, SD6xx, or even the ones with SD8xx that can do EIS in 4K. Usually when a person says that the camera of phone A is "completely useless" or "complete garbage", he/she would ready to provide a proof that better phone B, C, or D do exist. And with that, I rest my case.
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You want me to name one phone that has EIS in 4k?
OK, buddy, here you go: Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro shoots 4K with EIS when using the Opencamera app.
And surprise, surprise, the Snapdragon CPU on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro is an OLDER model than the one in Realme 5 Pro.
So, if a phone with an old Snapdragon 636 CPU and only 3 GB of RAM can shoot 4K with EIS, then why a phone with Snapdragon 712 woudn't???
The answer is: because the developers at Realme need to sit on their butts and start working on this major issue. Otherwise, Realme 5 Pro is just a total waste of decent hardware.
Your arguments just don't hold water, so instead of grasping at straws, go ahead and write a letter to Realme's developer team. Maybe if enough owners write them, they would listen and would do something about it.
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Are you telling me that the stock camera app is "nice" because users don't need to shoot 4K video anyway?
Are you telling me that just because YOU don't shoot in 4K, then everybody else shouldn't too?
Speak for yourself, buddy, because 4K is the new standard in video and if you are not shooting in 4K, you are just living in the past.
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I don't tell you to do anything, do what you please. Sell it if you have to and see if I care one bit.
You want me to name one phone that has EIS in 4k?
OK, buddy, here you go: Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro shoots 4K with EIS when using the Opencamera app.
And surprise, surprise, the Snapdragon CPU on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro is an OLDER model than the one in Realme 5 Pro.
So, if a phone with an old Snapdragon 636 CPU and only 3 GB of RAM can shoot 4K with EIS, then why a phone with Snapdragon 712 woudn't???
The answer is: because the developers at Realme need to sit on their butts and start working on this major issue. Otherwise, Realme 5 Pro is just a total waste of decent hardware.
Your arguments just don't hold water, so instead of grasping at straws, go ahead and write a letter to Realme's developer team. Maybe if enough owners write them, they would listen and would do something about it.
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Is that the best you can do, giving a link to a thread that none has participated, with "reserved for video samples" post that has not been updated since last march? The OP even said: "the stabilization is not as great compared to fullHD stabilization".
It seems that you have found your solution already. Trade your realme for redmi note 5 pro. Enjoy.
The problem I found is that recording in 1080/60 fps is very laggy and not smooth. In Realme 3 60fps is ultra smooth
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The problem I found is that recording in 1080/60 fps is very laggy and not smooth. In Realme 3 60fps is ultra smooth
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Interesting, thnaks for pointing this problem out.
I haven't tested the 1080p yet. Been trying to find a solution for the lack of EIS in 4K only, but I would not be surprised if there is a problem with 1080p too.
Videos are also undersaturated. In photo you can boost colors but not in video.
Now, for me the camera was the main reason to buy this phone. I record video lectures and video recording is very important for me, especially 1080/60fps (maybe sd712 supports also 4k60fps?), EIS and all this stuff. I compared this camera to camera from Realme 3 pro and recordings and photos made with r3pro are nicely saturated and 60 fps is super smooth. I had also impression that in 1080/30fps with EIS Realme 3 pro was doing better job in terms of smoothness. Definitely our hardware has potential but seems that software is messed up. Only hope is that Realme will do something with that. But we have to make them somehow aware of the problem.
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Videos are also undersaturated. In photo you can boost colors but not in video.
Now, for me the camera was the main reason to buy this phone. I record video lectures and video recording is very important for me, especially 1080/60fps (maybe sd712 supports also 4k60fps?), EIS and all this stuff. I compared this camera to camera from Realme 3 pro and recordings and photos made with r3pro are nicely saturated and 60 fps is super smooth. I had also impression that in 1080/30fps with EIS Realme 3 pro was doing better job in terms of smoothness. Definitely our hardware has potential but seems that software is messed up. Only hope is that Realme will do something with that. But we have to make them somehow aware of the problem.
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Same here. I bought this phone mainly because of its cameras and also because the hardware specs looked great on paper.
However, the camera software that came with the phone turned out to be a pile of horse manure. This Realme 5 Pro deal is like having a Ferrari and not being able to drive it faster than 10 mph.
Let's start sending mails to Realme's development team and see if they would care to do something about it.
ColorOS 7 is coming to our device in February, going to be (suppose to be) major update, hopefully they will fix it in this update. Is there any plan for December or January update?
you guys should try cinema 4k camera app i tried it on my friend redmi note 7.
it was awesome it can record 4k videos @30fps with eis very smooth.
but my realme x2 cant i have been trying to root it so to know if i can get eis in third party camera like GCAM,filmic pro and cinema 4k
I'm getting 5-6 second freezes in slow motion 240 fps!!! On stock ROM. 120 is slightly better but... This if pathetic
Somehow i feel from this thread that flagship output is being expected from a mid-ranger.
Expectations from the device should be realistic and not wish based.
mandhir.s.bajwa said:
Somehow i feel from this thread that flagship output is being expected from a mid-ranger.
Expectations from the device should be realistic and not wish based.
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The reality is that Redmi 5 pro (Snapdragon 636) can pull smooth 1080/60 fps recording and 4k with EIS. Realme 5 pro cannot. And our wishes are based on the fact that in our device seats Snapdragon 712 and high-end optics (same like in OnePlus 7t). This are realistic, common sense expectations
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Somehow i feel from this thread that flagship output is being expected from a mid-ranger.
Expectations from the device should be realistic and not wish based.
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Devices with weaker processors can record 4K video with EIS. There is no reason why Realme 5 Pro should not be able to do the same.
R5P does have the necessary hardware power, it is a matter of writing the right software. Hope the developers at Realme would do something about it.
Hello,
I've made a lot research on google concerning the quality of the video recording about this phone.
All of the vids that i saw on YT are laggy / choppy in 4k resolution. Especially when panning. This is really not smooth and hard to see.
I'm really interested to buy this phone for his pictures quality.
Could you tell me if you have the same problem with your phones ? Some says that it causes by the weak chipset in it ( snapdragon 730g ), it's just the limitation of the system.
Thanks a lot.
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Hello,
I've made a lot research on google concerning the quality of the video recording about this phone.
All of the vids that i saw on YT are laggy / choppy in 4k resolution. Especially when panning. This is really not smooth and hard to see.
I'm really interested to buy this phone for his pictures quality.
Could you tell me if you have the same problem with your phones ? Some says that it causes by the weak chipset in it ( snapdragon 730g ), it's just the limitation of the system.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
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On 20.3.5 i can say 4k videos are not choppy or skipping but when panning the effect is more similar to tearing.
Better stay on 1080p for videos.
Juan27 said:
Hello,
I've made a lot research on google concerning the quality of the video recording about this phone.
All of the vids that i saw on YT are laggy / choppy in 4k resolution. Especially when panning. This is really not smooth and hard to see.
I'm really interested to buy this phone for his pictures quality.
Could you tell me if you have the same problem with your phones ? Some says that it causes by the weak chipset in it ( snapdragon 730g ), it's just the limitation of the system.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
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Unfortunately videos are extremely laggy / choppy, even at 1080p 30fps when EIS is turned on. Without it, it's shaky, so there's no good solution. I don't know the reason, but it's very annoying, since they sell it (and i bought it) as a camera phone.
I've already asked around in this topic, you can also find 3 video samples that were recorded at 1080p 30fps : https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-10/help/laggy-videos-1080p-30fps-t4030027/amp/
I would say, it's a great phone, photo and video image quality is outsanding, but videos are laggy. Don't buy it if you are into video recording. Since updates are rare, i've lost my hope that Xiaomi would somehow solve this problem. (However: even the new Mi 10 and Mi 10 pro have stutters in their videos. They have flagship hardware, so it could be a software related issue, that could be solved through some update.)
I think the same, it might be software issue, so try recording google camera? Open camera?
EIS is horrible that's why phones like Mi 8 with OIS and no EIS destroys everything that followed, there's no workaround EIS frame drops, flickering, lags & stutters, if you need the best video stabilization on market you should go for Samsung's SuperSteady implementation
DISCLAIMER: I am using the Indian variant of the model and hence some stuff may be different for you
So i was a Poco X3 Pro user until about a month ago when my motherboard died and since they couldn't get a replacement motherboard for my device nor was poco x3 pro available as a replacement, I was being offered the Redmi Note 10 Pro, I was furious as that is a serious downgrade from my Poco X3 Pro and after some bickering I had to pay around 3000 INR extra for a Poco X4 Pro
I am using the 8/128gb variant for about a week now and here is what I have to say
This is a massive, no. HUMONGOUS downgrade from the Poco X3 Pro in probably every way possible
Camera: the global variant comes with a 108 MP main camera, however the Indian variant only gets a 64 MP main camera!
Obviously the snap 695 doesn't support 4k video recording but I did hear that it supports 1080p 60 fps recording however for some reason xiaomi only allows 1080p 30 fps
So please do not try to record videos on this device
Photos - Since I have a 64mp main camera it might be different for you
Seriously? The quality of photos better on my 4yr old Oppo F9 Pro
Performance: obviously quite a downgrade from Poco X3 Pro, lags and stutters are very noticeable
Poco X3 Pro could run Genshin Impact at Highest graphic settings at around 40-45 fps
Poco X4 Pro, just no don't even try you can literally count the frames on your screen
Thought it would be good as they literally just said during their Poco X4 Pro reveal that the massive sale for their X3 Pro was because of its performance
Display - Although it doesn't support 4k I am satisfied with the 120Hz Amoled display
but I do face a weird problem every now and then
I feel like the display is too sensitive
I hold my phone when using landscape mode with 4 fingers and sometimes when my fingers just get a bit close to the screen but not touching the screen it thinks I am touching the screen and performs tasks according to it
for example while watching yt this happens and the video either gets forwarded by 10s or goes backward by 10s
Battery: Good battery life and the fast charging is pretty nice
Overall
I don't exactly think this is worth your money...
atleast not the Indian variant
Indians are crazy for performance as 90% of them play demanding games
p.s when I got the phone it was running Miui 13.0.2 and like 5-6 hours later I got the miui 13.0.4 update and it's laggier than 13.0.2
atleast for me
also would like to know how the Non Indian variant of the device is
Global version here with 108mp cam. Granted I've never bothered for mobile gaming as I use consoles/pc for that but I've had zero lag and stuttering, screen is awesome, speakers are great, SOT is 2 days with moderate usage, camera pretty good once you use a modified gcam and I've got no interest in taking videos so lack of recording in 4k doesn't worry me.
I think people are quick to complain about a phone that's only just been released and the stock apps/firmware need some work. Just said on a previous thread - after installing MIUI EU, rooted and running multiple magisk mods I'm more than happy... People knew the processor was mid range before purchasing so stating it's slower than a high end SD processor is kind of obvious right? This phone is a decent and it focused on different areas than the previous model which has attacked some people and put off others.
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Global version here with 108mp cam. Granted I've never bothered for mobile gaming as I use consoles/pc for that but I've had zero lag and stuttering, screen is awesome, speakers are great, SOT is 2 days with moderate usage, camera pretty good once you use a modified gcam and I've got no interest in taking videos so lack of recording in 4k doesn't worry me.
I think people are quick to complain about a phone that's only just been released and the stock apps/firmware need some work. Just said on a previous thread - after installing MIUI EU, rooted and running multiple magisk mods I'm more than happy... People knew the processor was mid range before purchasing so stating it's slower than a high end SD processor is kind of obvious right? This phone is a decent and it focused on different areas than the previous model which has attacked some people and put off others.
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Great to hear that the global variant is better than the Indian one, personally I'm not a heavy gamer too I just put in the part of performance since Poco during their x4 pro reveal just said that the massive sale of their x3 pro was due to its good performance and well then they just took a 360° turn and were like here we do not care
Gcam does make the camera a bit better but the Indian variant has a 64mp camera compared to the 108 on the global one so that's sad
have been able to get rid of a few stutters on the UI by installing Poco launcher 4
about the speakers
Is it just me or is the sound too low?
but the clarity is pretty good
edit: I'm not so interested in 4k recording but hoped a 1080p 60 fps recording would be possible
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Great to hear that the global variant is better than the Indian one, personally I'm not a heavy gamer too I just put in the part of performance since Poco during their x4 pro reveal just said that the massive sale of their x3 pro was due to its good performance and well then they just took a 360° turn and were like here we do not care
Gcam does make the camera a bit better but the Indian variant has a 64mp camera compared to the 108 on the global one so that's sad
have been able to get rid of a few stutters on the UI by installing Poco launcher 4
about the speakers
Is it just me or is the sound too low?
but the clarity is pretty good
edit: I'm not so interested in 4k recording but hoped a 1080p 60 fps recording would be possible
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Hmmm I usually keep my speakers about halfway because they are very loud (and have decent quality imo) I further increased my quality by installed jamesdsp and with the speaker profile I use a viper DDC file called arise-army. I use a custom version for my Bluetooth audio too
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Hmmm I usually keep my speakers about halfway because they are very loud (and have decent quality imo) I further increased my quality by installed jamesdsp and with the speaker profile I use a viper DDC file called arise-army. I use a custom version for my Bluetooth audio too
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I see, so what I suspected was that Indian variant of miui is reducing the maximum volume of the device so I guess that's the case well anyways I'll get MIUI eu soon I have 3 days left till I can unlock the bootloader
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DISCLAIMER: I am using the Indian variant of the model and hence some stuff may be different for you
So i was a Poco X3 Pro user until about a month ago when my motherboard died and since they couldn't get a replacement motherboard for my device nor was poco x3 pro available as a replacement, I was being offered the Redmi Note 10 Pro, I was furious as that is a serious downgrade from my Poco X3 Pro and after some bickering I had to pay around 3000 INR extra for a Poco X4 Pro
I am using the 8/128gb variant for about a week now and here is what I have to say
This is a massive, no. HUMONGOUS downgrade from the Poco X3 Pro in probably every way possible
Camera: the global variant comes with a 108 MP main camera, however the Indian variant only gets a 64 MP main camera!
Obviously the snap 695 doesn't support 4k video recording but I did hear that it supports 1080p 60 fps recording however for some reason xiaomi only allows 1080p 30 fps
So please do not try to record videos on this device
Photos - Since I have a 64mp main camera it might be different for you
Seriously? The quality of photos better on my 4yr old Oppo F9 Pro
Performance: obviously quite a downgrade from Poco X3 Pro, lags and stutters are very noticeable
Poco X3 Pro could run Genshin Impact at Highest graphic settings at around 40-45 fps
Poco X4 Pro, just no don't even try you can literally count the frames on your screen
Thought it would be good as they literally just said during their Poco X4 Pro reveal that the massive sale for their X3 Pro was because of its performance
Display - Although it doesn't support 4k I am satisfied with the 120Hz Amoled display
but I do face a weird problem every now and then
I feel like the display is too sensitive
I hold my phone when using landscape mode with 4 fingers and sometimes when my fingers just get a bit close to the screen but not touching the screen it thinks I am touching the screen and performs tasks according to it
for example while watching yt this happens and the video either gets forwarded by 10s or goes backward by 10s
Battery: Good battery life and the fast charging is pretty nice
Overall
I don't exactly think this is worth your money...
atleast not the Indian variant
Indians are crazy for performance as 90% of them play demanding games
p.s when I got the phone it was running Miui 13.0.2 and like 5-6 hours later I got the miui 13.0.4 update and it's laggier than 13.0.2
atleast for me
also would like to know how the Non Indian variant of the device is
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For me it's a great device. I'm not going to lie, I would buy the POCO F3 without fear, IF AND ONLY IF it had a P2 input for headphones
augusto_peres said:
For me it's a great device. I'm not going to lie, I would buy the POCO F3 without fear, IF AND ONLY IF it had a P2 input for headphones
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ah great, hopefully there's more people like you so that this phone can get a new life from all the development
I just realised that this might be one of the only devices that still start at 64gb storage in this price range, good thing it's only In India
however for my Indian friends out there...
There is no 256gb variant of peux
and well if you visit the poco official website there is just absolutely no info about the Indian variant... That's sad
anyways I finally unlocked the bootloader and got miui eu 13.0.10 this def feels better
1qazwsx4 said:
camera pretty good once you use a modified gcam
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I just bought this phone and was wondering how you do this? Do I just install an APK from here? https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
The Poco X4 isn't listed though. I'm a total newbie to this.
Guitarwolves said:
I just bought this phone and was wondering how you do this? Do I just install an APK from here? https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
The Poco X4 isn't listed though. I'm a total newbie to this.
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No worries. Link is below, I prefer the LMC version of the camera - download install and then restore the XML config
GCam Discussion Thread
Hello Here a new GCAM version with pixel binning https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-shamim/f/dl13/ Gcam SHAMIM In this version, you will have several shooting modes, including one with Pixel Binning, to be able to do...
forum.xda-developers.com
I got the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus Indian variant because thats the only one available right now unofficially. From what I heard its the only one that will come officially too. From what I've seen the performance is really good. I can play every single high graphics game at good fps. Genshin too runs 40-45 on medium settings. Its a great balanced processor if you're looking for a phone that you can game and take great pictures with. Usually if you go for a gaming device everything is sacrificed for the soc but, at least on the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus, you get a great soc for gaming and emulation (Can emulate PS2 and Wii games with 60fps!!!), a great looking if a bit fragile body and a good main camera sensor (same as previous gen Note 10 Pro Max) and awesome battery life with fast charging to boot.
Coming from the X3 Pro to the X4 is a definite downgrade but coming from Redmi Note 10 Pro Max it is definitely an upgrade.
Coming from a 2019 $100 phone here — the experience has been very good compared to my old daily driver. Everything's smooth and the camera's really comparable to a flagship with some drawbacks of course. However knowing that the hardware is a heavy downgrade from its predecessor, I'm starting to have second thoughts on this one. Sure the AMOLED screen and 5G is great and I don't really do mobile gaming as my iPad does the job for me but no 4K recording and playback? Heck, 1080p60 recording isn't even possible. Genshin Impact runs barely 30 FPS on lowest settings. I'm a bit disappointed. I definitely should've done more research on my part.
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Coming from a 2019 $100 phone here — the experience has been very good compared to my old daily driver. Everything's smooth and the camera's really comparable to a flagship with some drawbacks of course. However knowing that the hardware is a heavy downgrade from its predecessor, I'm starting to have second thoughts on this one. Sure the AMOLED screen and 5G is great and I don't really do mobile gaming as my iPad does the job for me but no 4K recording and playback? Heck, 1080p60 recording isn't even possible. Genshin Impact runs barely 30 FPS on lowest settings. I'm a bit disappointed. I definitely should've done more research on my part.
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from a 2019 $100 this is definitely a massive upgrade
sadly camera is no where close to flagship store infact it's worser than almost all devices in this price range (excluding devices with the snap695 ofc)
It's predecessor was a one of thing
it didn't last long though as it had major flaws like severe ghost touch and hard bricking randomly due to cheap PMIC
but for performance it could easily beat devices tha cost 2x the price
it was a beast in terms of gaming
if you got rid of the perf kernel you're basically looking at a standard laptop
with LYB kernel i managed to always maintain an fps above 50 on the max graphics possible in Genshin Impact
Sadly the 5G aspect is totally useless to me as my country doesn't even provide stable 4g speeds so 5g isn't coming any time soon
Screen is good with a two small (most likely software based) flaws being flickering and backlight bleeding
4k video recording is even available on rather cheaper devices nowadays so yeah that's a bummer
You can actually record at 1080p 60 fps using Gcam but it's actually more of a 1080p 45 fps
Happy with the 1080p amoled display
if it was 4k then it would be an lps display
and people think that amoled 1080p displays are better than 4k lps ones but this controversial so I'd rather just leave it at that
(I personally like 4k lps)
Gaming (like real gaming not just candy crush level stuff) is sadly almost impossible on this device with it even lagging severely in apex legends mobile on the lowest possible graphics
But hey it could be saved by 3rd party development though the chances do seem slim as of now since the account that used to release kernel sources for Xiaomi devices has been inactive for a while now
i kind of feel like the device was a flop
you can disagree and it's totally fine but just look at how poco went back to the performance before everything else standard on the Poco F4
I saw this video focusing on various Poco X4 Pro problems including problems with display, camera, fingerprint scanner, microphone and lagging problem on the phone.
<Moderator Edit>: Self-promoting video link deleted.
Can someone explain the Poco X4 Pro Display problem in the video where we can see backlight bleeding on black images under low brightness in dark rooms, Poco X4 Pro camera problem and microphone problem where the camera lags when choosing between various camera modes and how the microphone problem is present whereby the quality of audio recorded by video camera is very poor.
The only problem that I've experienced so far is the Poco x4 pro lagging problem and Poco x4 pro heating problem is also present when playing games like Call Of Duty or PUBG.
I want to check my phone for these problems and get a refund before it is too late if I'm having these.
So my question is where the problems mentioned in the video can be solved by software updates or not ?
Also are these problems present on all Poco X4 Pro phones ?
Sounds like you're having to thoroughly test a phone in strange conditions to look for a problem that doesn't effect you... Can't say I've got any issues with my phone. Fast enough and fluid - use my phone alot at night time and haven't noticed screen bleeding on a pure black image etc but I've not gone out of the way to look either. No lags swapping between camera modes, not a phone gamer so don't care about overheating either.
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I saw this video focusing on various Poco X4 Pro problems including problems with display, camera, fingerprint scanner, microphone and lagging problem on the phone.
Can someone explain the Poco X4 Pro Display problem in the video where we can see backlight bleeding on black images under low brightness in dark rooms, Poco X4 Pro camera problem and microphone problem where the camera lags when choosing between various camera modes and how the microphone problem is present whereby the quality of audio recorded by video camera is very poor.
The only problem that I've experienced so far is the Poco x4 pro lagging problem and Poco x4 pro heating problem is also present when playing games like Call Of Duty or PUBG.
I want to check my phone for these problems and get a refund before it is too late if I'm having these.
So my question is where the problems mentioned in the video can be solved by software updates or not ?
Also are these problems present on all Poco X4 Pro phones ?
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Display Issues - Yes indeed black is not true black under the circumstances mentioned in the video however this is because of just Miui stuff that enhances colors and tries to make stuff look better haven't found it on the (unofficial) Pixel Experience Plus rom
Camera Lag - yes have noticed camera lags and stutters and overall being not so smooth of an experience but i recommend you to use a Gcam as it has none of those problems and even lets you record videos at 1080p 60fps unlike Miui camera
Quality of audio recorded - Okay seriously? That was just dumb his phone might be 2 years old but the price is still more than twice than that of Poco X4 Pro so obviously it would be ahead
Gaming - Unfortunately this is not a gaming device they call it the "All around ace" but i don't see where is the all around ace in the phone?
The branding of this phone is so bad...
People will think since Poco X3 Pro was a beast of a gaming device the X4 Pro would be even better but no not in the slightest
Refund - if you want to you can... there really are better devices for this price segment
remember a good processor can make a lot of stuff good like camera quality, audio processing etc
Can these issues be fixed with a software update
Cough Poco X2, X3, F2 cameras just dying after a software update with no fix even after so long
Cough Cough Poco X3 Pro hard bricking due to system updates and no fix even after so long
Don't you worry mate Miui will come to your rescue to fix every problem you have!
Is it worth getting the Poco X4 Pro?
Mohammad Rafath said:
Is it worth getting the Poco X4 Pro?
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Depends really
If you're living in the Asian countries there's several manufacturers providing you a better buck for your money e.g Iqoo
but if you wanna definitely buy a Xiaomi product then going for the Mi 11X which costs just a tiny bit more than the X4 Pro
Even the 6gb ram variant is far better due to the snapdragon 870 being a beast
In my opinion go for any device that has a snapdragon 8 series processor or the 778G
A processor matters a lot in a device
A good processor can accomplish several tasks with ease
E.g camera quality will be better and you'll most likely have 4k recording
Audio processing better
Rendering is better
Everything will look better since a better GPU
Overall better performance
But if you've already bought the device and thinking if it was worth your buck
imo not really... It lacks several features devices have in this price range even though people coping that this is a great deal
Never trust in the 5g gimmicks people will keep on telling u that the snap 480 5g or the 695 5g processors are amazing but that is a heck of a lie those are old processors overclocked but still way behind the league
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Depends really
If you're living in the Asian countries there's several manufacturers providing you a better buck for your money e.g Iqoo
but if you wanna definitely buy a Xiaomi product then going for the Mi 11X which costs just a tiny bit more than the X4 Pro
Even the 6gb ram variant is far better due to the snapdragon 870 being a beast
In my opinion go for any device that has a snapdragon 8 series processor or the 778G
A processor matters a lot in a device
A good processor can accomplish several tasks with ease
E.g camera quality will be better and you'll most likely have 4k recording
Audio processing better
Rendering is better
Everything will look better since a better GPU
Overall better performance
But if you've already bought the device and thinking if it was worth your buck
imo not really... It lacks several features devices have in this price range even though people coping that this is a great deal
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Thank you for this detailed information, I was still planning to get this phone but as you said iQoo new phones are good too for this price range and Mi 11X is expensive for my budget Also for me display to matters because I hate the LCD in budget phones, AMOLED is good for eyes! I'm going to see the best budget phone with good specs and with snapdragon 8 processors as you said.
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Thank you for this detailed information, I was still planning to get this phone but as you said iQoo new phones are good too for this price range and Mi 11X is expensive for my budget Also for me display to matters because I hate the LCD in budget phones, AMOLED is good for eyes! I'm going to see the best budget phone with good specs and with snapdragon 8 processors as you said.
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No problem mate!
I recommend you to stay away from Poco in general though
Their specifications might look very appealing but almost every single phone of theirs has had a major flaw without any explanation provided by Poco
E.g X2, X3, F2 cameras just dying after a system update no fix even after almost 2-3 years
Poco X3 Pro which I'd say is the most appealing phone ever made...
Hard bricking after system update due to low end PMIC's
No fix after almost 2 years
side note: i was a Poco X3 Pro user until about 4-5 months ago when my Poco X3 Pro died after getting Miui 13 update
Luckily still 2 months of warranty was still left but it took almost 2 months to get a replacement and i got the X4 Pro
They were gonna give me the Redmi Note 9 which was absolutely disgusting compared to the X3 Pro so after a few fights here and there and paying about 50$ i got the X4 Pro...
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Mrajhacker0 said:
I saw this video focusing on various Poco X4 Pro problems including problems with display, camera, fingerprint scanner, microphone and lagging problem on the phone.
Can someone explain the Poco X4 Pro Display problem in the video where we can see backlight bleeding on black images under low brightness in dark rooms, Poco X4 Pro camera problem and microphone problem where the camera lags when choosing between various camera modes and how the microphone problem is present whereby the quality of audio recorded by video camera is very poor.
The only problem that I've experienced so far is the Poco x4 pro lagging problem and Poco x4 pro heating problem is also present when playing games like Call Of Duty or PUBG.
I want to check my phone for these problems and get a refund before it is too late if I'm having these.
So my question is where the problems mentioned in the video can be solved by software updates or not ?
Also are these problems present on all Poco X4 Pro phones ?
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The dark mode problem is in hardware or software? Because, in recovery mode, fastboot mode and on first boot poco logo, the display shows pure original black... But when it starts up on miui logo, display's upper side bocomes lcd black not amoled black.. so, what the problem basically is? On software or hardware?
@Mrajhacker0 I've closed this thread. Check the PM I've sent you.
I am currently using Redmi Note 9 Pro with SD 720G and when recording gameplay videos, it struggles to output 60fps.
I am thinking about getting the X3 pro with SD 860. Will this function improve dramatically? I am using both build-in screen recorder and I also bought Xrecorder. My intention is to limit the fps to 60 and not use 120 mode in games.
Exact model:
Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com
I also saw few reviews that the X3 Pro suffers from microstutters, as I understood something about the panel itself, something like pixel slow response time?
Is this true and will it translate to the recording?
Thanks guys.
No microstutters here. Don't know about anyone else's experience. Panel issues, if any ( I had none ) will not translate to recording output.
You can read about a lot of issues with the Poco X3 Pro around here. Considering the amount of said phones sold and used, it's a drop in the ocean, and within normal.
Stuff that inexperienced people do to their phones is staggering. When they mess up, guess where they come to cry for help?
Hope you buy the phone and flash a custom firmware on it, because that's the reason people buy Xiaomi/Poco phones. Hardware is great, software side sucks a$$.
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No microstutters here. Don't know about anyone else's experience. Panel issues, if any ( I had none ) will not translate to recording output.
You can read about a lot of issues with the Poco X3 Pro around here. Considering the amount of said phones sold and used, it's a drop in the ocean, and within normal.
Stuff that inexperienced people do to their phones is staggering. When they mess up, guess where they come to cry for help?
Hope you buy the phone and flash a custom firmware on it, because that's the reason people buy Xiaomi/Poco phones. Hardware is great, software side sucks a$$.
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Thanks, already got it last week. I am waiting for the bootloader to unlock before I start using it, but from what I saw it runs smoothly. I think people are confusing stutters with FPS drops in some apps. I noticed that when I launch some not recently updated app, the screen switches from 120 to 60 Hz/fps
I think there is a way to force it, but its ok. I recorder some stuff, smooth like butter.