Hello,
I've made a lot research on google concerning the quality of the video recording about this phone.
All of the vids that i saw on YT are laggy / choppy in 4k resolution. Especially when panning. This is really not smooth and hard to see.
I'm really interested to buy this phone for his pictures quality.
Could you tell me if you have the same problem with your phones ? Some says that it causes by the weak chipset in it ( snapdragon 730g ), it's just the limitation of the system.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Juan27 said:
Hello,
I've made a lot research on google concerning the quality of the video recording about this phone.
All of the vids that i saw on YT are laggy / choppy in 4k resolution. Especially when panning. This is really not smooth and hard to see.
I'm really interested to buy this phone for his pictures quality.
Could you tell me if you have the same problem with your phones ? Some says that it causes by the weak chipset in it ( snapdragon 730g ), it's just the limitation of the system.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
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On 20.3.5 i can say 4k videos are not choppy or skipping but when panning the effect is more similar to tearing.
Better stay on 1080p for videos.
Juan27 said:
Hello,
I've made a lot research on google concerning the quality of the video recording about this phone.
All of the vids that i saw on YT are laggy / choppy in 4k resolution. Especially when panning. This is really not smooth and hard to see.
I'm really interested to buy this phone for his pictures quality.
Could you tell me if you have the same problem with your phones ? Some says that it causes by the weak chipset in it ( snapdragon 730g ), it's just the limitation of the system.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
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Unfortunately videos are extremely laggy / choppy, even at 1080p 30fps when EIS is turned on. Without it, it's shaky, so there's no good solution. I don't know the reason, but it's very annoying, since they sell it (and i bought it) as a camera phone.
I've already asked around in this topic, you can also find 3 video samples that were recorded at 1080p 30fps : https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-10/help/laggy-videos-1080p-30fps-t4030027/amp/
I would say, it's a great phone, photo and video image quality is outsanding, but videos are laggy. Don't buy it if you are into video recording. Since updates are rare, i've lost my hope that Xiaomi would somehow solve this problem. (However: even the new Mi 10 and Mi 10 pro have stutters in their videos. They have flagship hardware, so it could be a software related issue, that could be solved through some update.)
I think the same, it might be software issue, so try recording google camera? Open camera?
EIS is horrible that's why phones like Mi 8 with OIS and no EIS destroys everything that followed, there's no workaround EIS frame drops, flickering, lags & stutters, if you need the best video stabilization on market you should go for Samsung's SuperSteady implementation
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I dont see a lot of chatter about 60fps recording on the latest batch of 720/1080p recording smart phones.. Is it even possible or just a matter of hardware limitations? Im just curious if we could see a future hack enabling 60fps or do we wait for manufacturers to offer it. thanks!
That would be SICK... But I don't think it'd be possible due to the size of the camera sensor in most mobile phones.
i just know that the HTC Bass (Runnymede) will be able to do 720p recording at 60fps.
afaik, there are no known phones that can do [email protected] currently.
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I dont see a lot of chatter about 60fps recording on the latest batch of 720/1080p recording smart phones.. Is it even possible or just a matter of hardware limitations? Im just curious if we could see a future hack enabling 60fps or do we wait for manufacturers to offer it. thanks!
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Sounds like James Cameron's dream phone, to me. Cameron is pushing for the movie industry to adopt a minimum 60fp/s for movies.
is 60fps the limit? cant it go any higher?
Really isn't much benefit in going higher except for Video/Sports analysis, TBH. For just watching stuff, 60 FPS is good enough.
I understand that for general recording/watching 30fps is plenty. 24fps even.. Id just be interested for some cool slo-mo effects. even if it were capped at a short time due to the size of the file. Im just wondering if its hardware limitations (video encoding of the chipset, size of the sensor as previously mentioned) or just a matter of software tweaking; forcing the phone to record/encode @ 60fps.
I had an older LG phone that had a slo-mo effect that looked cool but quality took a big hit.
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I understand that for general recording/watching 30fps is plenty. 24fps even.. Id just be interested for some cool slo-mo effects. even if it were capped at a short time due to the size of the file. Im just wondering if its hardware limitations (video encoding of the chipset, size of the sensor as previously mentioned) or just a matter of software tweaking; forcing the phone to record/encode @ 60fps.
I had an older LG phone that had a slo-mo effect that looked cool but quality took a big hit.
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agree
even if games / videos were made to run 60 fps, it's a waste of power
there's no point pushing more than 30 frames when human eyes can barely keep up with less than that
AllGamer said:
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even if games / videos were made to run 60 fps, it's a waste of power
there's no point pushing more than 30 frames when human eyes can barely keep up with less than that
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Don't agree at all. The difference is big and is easily proven. Seems to be some kind of urban legend that eyes cannot perceive faster movement than around 24-30fps
Check for example these example videos (using a modern browser on a modern PC).
http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html
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Don't agree at all. The difference is big and is easily proven. Seems to be some kind of urban legend that eyes cannot perceive faster movement than around 24-30fps
Check for example these example videos (using a modern browser on a modern PC).
http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html
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This is an age old debate and is far more complex than that one example can cover. For video playback where you can't resolve individual frames though, 30 fps is more than enough.
Yes, we all like to see those beautiful bullet time type videos shot with fast cameras, but there are limitations other than processing power. In this case it's optical. The faster you shoot, the better lit the scene needs to be and the better the light gathering ability of the optics. Perfectly easy to overcome when you're lighting the scene and using proper hardware. Not so good when you're using a phone to do the shooting though!
I don't see the point of 1080p/60fps until they can do 1080p/30fps properly
Also better optics before moving onto anything else
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This is an age old debate and is far more complex than that one example can cover. For video playback where you can't resolve individual frames though, 30 fps is more than enough.
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Sorry but I don't agree at all, and your post doesn't include one single argument for you statement so it doesn't make any change.
30 fps looks ok, but 60fps video looks more fluid. It is very obvious in fast moving videos, e g sports.
I know that movies are made for 24fps and have "motion blur" to remove the problems with low frame rate, and some people prefere this motion blur (i e movie captured with small aperture) but that is a matter of taste and doesn't change what looks more fluid or not.
HTC Vivid [email protected] http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_vivid-4302.php
That all depends on the GPU. Maybe the powervr sgx 543 can, seems the most plausible of all the GPUs available.
So those can shoot @60fps:
-LG G2
-Note 3
-HTC One (720p only)
Does anybody know more devices?
Maybe Nexus 5 after some camera hack...? I would buy if it had 1080p60
Samsung Galaxy S4 and S5 can record 60fps video as well
I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
Snapdragon or Exynos?
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just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about
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A direct link would help, I'm not finding anything.
I confirm this too, exynos club. Slow focus in 1080 60fps
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I don't seem to be having any issues...I may be one of the lucky ones. S7e verizon
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Does your low-light performance take a hit on the slow motion recording? Because mine does... is this normal for slow motion recording?
Don't see this issue on sd820
Well, i can confirm the slower focus on my G935F (maybe double the time as the normal camera focus), but no skipped frames.
rodnii said:
Does your low-light performance take a hit on the slow motion recording? Because mine does... is this normal for slow motion recording?
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It probably would take a hit as you're using a slower shutter speed to achieve slow motion.
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Does your low-light performance take a hit on the slow motion recording? Because mine does... is this normal for slow motion recording?
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Of course it does. The shutter speed allows half as much light to reach the sensor. This cannot be altered, except to post-process the video on a computer and apply some heavy noise reduction (with the corresponding drop in sharpness).
has anyone a video from the issue? (youtube maybe)
I just noticed stuttering in my slow motion recording..
Many people are starting to tell Samsung about this issue on Twitter.
i have stuttering/jittery in my videos in all modes , they r less in de low reso's but when going higher reso's its gets it alot. the easiest way to achieve the jitter/stutter is moving left/right & up/down with the handset, if your keeping the handset still there's no problem can anyone confirm this by trying ?
The flickering from my flourescent lighting is awful on the slowmo video. This is usually corrected by software so I was very surprised to see it. I'd forgive this if there weren't so many frame drops going on as well. The slowmo video on Snapdragon devices is basically broken. Unfortunately, Samsung has not made an official statement acknowledging the issue. It will require more people to report it.
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I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
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it seems like 1080p 60fps mode doesn't really make use of Dual Pixel phase detection.. it felts more like contrast detection to me.. there might be chance that Dual Pixel are not supported in 60fps mode.. keep our finger crossed.
I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
brian85 said:
I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
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for frame skips, you recording to SD card or internal? do internal for something like that; probably hte sd card not being able to keep up with r/w speeds.
if you're doing internal, then i have no idea lol
Same here. Internal or SD does not matter. Just tested. 1440p / 4k works great. It's the 60fps which seems to make the focus slow...
I agree with this. I recorded slow motion to my external and internal storage and both skip and are choppy.
Here's a sample video I took
https://youtu.be/qgYfoxudl74
easiest way: write an email to samsung, all of you for your own. they won't do anything if somebody says "well on xda there are 10 people complaining and 200 people clicked like".
also prepare to go through the 2-3 standard email answers (reset your phone, do the auto update blabla) no matter what you write. just keep pursuing and after the 4th email it'll take 1-2 weeks for an answer and than you're hooked to the right guy.
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I agree with this. I recorded slow motion to my external and internal storage and both skip and are choppy.
Here's a sample video I took
https://youtu.be/qgYfoxudl74
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Cute dog, btw!
I'm having issues with my video recording in every department. All my videos look like crap, very grainy, i wouldn't even consider any of what i have recorded as high def. 4K, joke! Everyone of them is a joke. I honestly wish i hadn't traded in my S6, the 4K video recording on the S6 was the bomb. I displayed a concert i recorded while in a dark floor mind you onto a Samsung 65" 4K tv & it was flawless. I couldn't believe what i was seeing blown up onto this 65" screen. It was amazing. Now the S7 recording, i'm embarrassed to even upload videos to youtube. Here's an example. This was shot during full daylight in 4K with the S7. Everything is washed out looking & grainy. Certainly not 4k worthy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWKZfxBP4UQ
After watching that now watch something i recorded with the s6 in 4K, HUGE difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTwAC6gBA1A
I have dual 27" 1440p monitors, what ever resolution monitor you have display it in what suits you best
Samsung response to focus problems of the S7 video in 60fps
I've asked Samsung (NL) for a response. First they've told me they will look into it, because the problem should not have been present on all devices.
Later they've added it's a hardware issue and can not be solved by a software update. So no solution: S7 has crappy 60 fps video so live with it.
Very dissapointing. 60fps is one of the features I've needed for recording. A big let down from Samsung.
I think the problem is with the isocell camera sensor. Sony sensor seems to be working fine
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supersepian said:
I think the problem is with the isocell camera sensor. Sony sensor seems to be working fine
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Are you guys using SD 820 or Exynos?
I have no issues on an Exynos/IsoCell combo with graininess and choppy slow mo.
However the focus is indeed slower in 60 FPS.
I am using isocell sensor . Focus is very good in all recording settings except full HD 60fps. My friend's galaxy s7 with sony sensor is working fine
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Exynos / rear: Sony / front: SLSI (Samsung). Choppy happend sometimes (after restart it is ok). Slow focus all the time.
Looks like Phone can not handle the data storage or cpu speed to manage more multiple fps. Which results in slow focus...
I use QHD or UHD which does not have any problems at all...
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi 5 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
My only complaint of this nice piece of gear is the video recording feature.
There is no [email protected] recording option. Even the recording quality in good light conditons at 30fps (1080p) is not smooth and really choppy
Have not see any advantage of the 4axis OIS future.
Hope to see developers that can fix this issiue with software updates.
I think the best video recording quality has the Samsung Galaxy S6/S7/Note series and the Iphone 6/6s line.
Hope to see other opinions and good nwes
skyhan01 said:
My only complaint of this nice piece of gear is the video recording feature.
There is no [email protected] recording option. Even the recording quality in good light conditons at 30fps (1080p) is not smooth and really choppy
Have not see any advantage of the 4axis OIS future.
Hope to see developers that can fix this issiue with software updates.
I think the best video recording quality has the Samsung Galaxy S6/S7/Note series and the Iphone 6/6s line.
Hope to see other opinions and good nwes
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Keep dreaming!!! You should have thrown your cash at the other phones instead.
Guys, I keep seeing constant complains and whining about this phone and yet the only person to blame is your self. Read the god damn reviews !!!!!
all reviews point that video recording is just ok, nothing great... OIS is almost non-existent...
no software update will fix that...
read more carefully next time
yorikkk said:
all reviews point that video recording is just ok, nothing great... OIS is almost non-existent...
no software update will fix that...
read more carefully next time
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It has a great video recording quality for it's price. OIS and auto-focus is better than the more expensive flagship op3.
watch?v=Z8H5kOnryEo
OIS is clearly there, try recording while driving a motorcycle. There will be no, or at least minimal, glowy images as in non-OIS enabled devices. Color rendering is still the best, S7 and 6S is behind for this one. Lighting is natural, however you may prefer S7's "always daylight" choice (i.e., it will show bright light even in dark environment), but that's completely preference. I choose natural. Slow motion is great, even if only single [email protected] choice (slowed down 4x from 120fps) I found it very useful to record fast motion videos to see it later in detail.
this is the worst think in this device
it cant shoot a good video
get a lot off blurry result every time video
For me its 75/100.
Miui makes it complicated to chenge to 4k, fullhd slow-mo quickly. Timelapse feature is great. There were problems with rotation for camera but software update solved them. So it is not great but nice to see they are improving littlle by little.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi 9 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Coming from a Mi Mix 2S I can not stress enough how great the Video quality is on this Phone. Smooth 60FPS in a 4K Video and very fast and crisp autofocus makes this camera a joy.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kE1YdfFzzhJZKdLAA
The Mi 9 does suffer from judder in 4K 30fps which are a result of missed frames.
This has also been confirmed on dxomark review
Hopefully this can be fixed in a software update
mulkman said:
The Mi 9 does suffer from judder in 4K 30fps which are a result of missed frames.
This has also been confirmed on dxomark review
Hopefully this can be fixed in a software update
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Yeah, a lot of my 4k 30 fps videos have this problem
Gokh said:
Yeah, a lot of my 4k 30 fps videos have this problem
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We need to hit up the xiaomi forum and get some confirmations on my thread.
https://en.miui.com/thread-6006991-1-1.html
Register and reply back to the thread and give a confirmation that you experience the same issue. This will make them investigate the issue
A video recorded by me from Xiaomi Store in London in 4K 30fps with stabilisation (judder / dropped frames)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYCKvPU-ir4
I have same issue with my brand new mi9..
johnnyman25 said:
I have same issue with my brand new mi9..
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For some reason the videos look worse on YouTube then on my 4K Samsung TV. This may due to the way YouTube processes those dropped frames, during its conversion process.
This needs to be fixed as its a big disappointment.
The Snapdragon 855 has more than enough power to handle 4K at 30fps with AI stabilisation but the Mi 9 lack of OIS could be the reason why it struggles during panning
The video is EXTREMELY SHAKY - EIS seems nonexistant.
- Audio is 14/20 (concert recording ok, quieter scenes a bit less nice)
EDIT:
- This is due to limitations on 4K60
- EIS is good on 4K30 - but then there are dropped frames.
I dislike the EIS implementation of Xiaomi (so called stabilization) on the Mi 9. It crops the image and you loose sharpness over stabilization. If you turn it off you also have a wider view.
My other phone (Mi 9 SE) the EIS is less agressive, so the crop is less perhaps due to the lesser cpu. The actual image looks better because it is sharper, detailed and has a wider view. The problem is that EIS causes judder when panning because the software is not optimized and more judder with lesser cpu. I actually prefer that they implemented the EIS on the Mi 9 with less cropping.
Strange is that I disable stabilization on both Mi 9 and Mi 9 SE but the video is still sharper and more detailed on the Mi 9 SE.
Androidzor said:
I dislike the EIS implementation of Xiaomi (so called stabilization) on the Mi 9. It crops the image and you loose sharpness over stabilization. E.
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To be noted that now Gcam supports EIS in 4k 30 fps and 60 fps with much less cropping.
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To be noted that now Gcam supports EIS in 4k 30 fps and 60 fps with much less cropping.
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The stabilization is not as slider smooth as MIUI cam, though. I'd still prefer to disable EIS and have my gimbal for serious video recording.
Its excellent actually thanks to the new GCAM mod by urnyx05. It supports 100Mbits 4K 60fps videos with working video stabilization!! Working video stabilization on 4k 60fps is really uncommon. Non of the flagships have it nor even iPhones support it.
AdrixStrife said:
Its excellent actually thanks to the new GCAM mod by urnyx05. It supports 100Mbits 4K 60fps videos with working video stabilization!! Working video stabilization on 4k 60fps is really uncommon. Non of the flagships have it nor even iPhones support it.
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Actually, many of today's flagship can stabilize [email protected] including but not limited to iPhone 11 series, Samsung S20 series, even OPPO Find X2 Pro can do it as well. Xiaomi isn't left behind as Mi 10 series can do it, unfortunately as typical Xiaomi, they don't backport many features to older devices.
AdrixStrife said:
Its excellent actually thanks to the new GCAM mod by urnyx05. It supports 100Mbits 4K 60fps videos with working video stabilization!! Working video stabilization on 4k 60fps is really uncommon. Non of the flagships have it nor even iPhones support it.
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Hi, can you please point out which version of the GCam you're talking about? I've been looking for ways to get at least 1080p 60fps with EIS on my Mi9 but no luck so far..
clclcl said:
Hi, can you please point out which version of the GCam you're talking about? I've been looking for ways to get at least 1080p 60fps with EIS on my Mi9 but no luck so far..
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https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-urnyx05/