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Android 7.0 (Nougat) + XT1575 + Systeless Root = ??

When Android 7.0 ( Nougat ) is finally released for Motorola X Pure (2015) XT1575 ( Hopefully by the end of the year ), will SystemLess Root still work as is it does now for 6.0 or should we wait for someone to run it in a sandbox? Should we wait for the First Quarter of 2017 before we get anxious and upgrade to the newest Android, to give all of the developer time to perfect they're processes.
We all know now that it will be released as a STOCK image, but I have a lot of Root Apps (i.e. Titainium, Backup, Root Explorer, Xposed, Gravity Box for MM, etc) which I would still like to use. From what I can see of 7.0 it's not much different than 6.0 except for split screen and some other features that I'm sure we.re not aware of yet..

All I can say it It doesn't work on the G4... yet. I maintain a root thread on the G4, haven't found a viable way to root it on Nougat, all methods mess up data and a bunch of framework stuff (like settings menu). I assume the Nougat on this will be roughly the same. Don't worry, it will come though.
And Xposed isn't available for Nougat, it isn't known yet if it will be. Remember when Marshmallow came out they almost dropped Xposed completely, they were so close they had actually said they shutting down development of Xposed then had a unexpected breakthrough. The developers of Xposed have said that it will die in the hear future due to changes in Android.

Yeah, xPosed isn't something I would rely on moving forward. Right now AICP & CM are making great strides with N 7.1 and including Root so you can go that route and get the Root you desire. I'm on TurboROM which is still an MM base and will move to AICP N 7.1 once things settle in some more, but as of right now AICP is pretty darn nice as is. I've tested it every few days to see the progress, but for daily, revert to my most current backup of Turbo for now. AICP usually includes a LARGE amount of customizations. I go that route normally and remove all the AOSP stuff I can replace with Google APPs directly and use Moto Camera instead as well giving me a really clean and functional bug-free experience. GravityBox becomes mostly unnecessary with AICP or CM. Boy I'm rambling worse than normal today...
Back on track... Try out AICP with N 7.1 or wait for a Stock Rooted

Thank you for the reply, I wasn't sure if I should upgrade or not.
My pure has been running pretty good since I got it back in May of this year thru SWAPPA, and I have the latest security mod for May 1 (Build MPHS24.49-18-4), I wasn't sure if Lenovo would push another Security update for 6.0 (MM) or push 7.0 for the next update, and I didn't want to mess anything up..
I love this phone, and I'm not sure if and when I will upgrade, but I know it won't be MOTO/LENOVO anymore, unless they can unlock the bootloader for Pixel and gain root, I may lean that way...
NEVER, NEVER, Never will I go the way of the Apple, anything that comes from that place sucks, it's too restrictive..
DROID Forever !!!!!

CLETjB said:
Thank you for the reply, I wasn't sure if I should upgrade or not.
My pure has been running pretty good since I got it back in May of this year thru SWAPPA, and I have the latest security mod for May 1 (Build MPHS24.49-18-4), I wasn't sure if Lenovo would push another Security update for 6.0 (MM) or push 7.0 for the next update, and I didn't want to mess anything up..
I love this phone, and I'm not sure if and when I will upgrade, but I know it won't be MOTO/LENOVO anymore, unless they can unlock the bootloader for Pixel and gain root, I may lean that way...
NEVER, NEVER, Never will I go the way of the Apple, anything that comes from that place sucks, it's too restrictive..
DROID Forever !!!!!
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Pixel bootloader is unlockable. Verizon Pixel has bootloader unlock tool from the Sunshine team free of charge. Also It is rootable via newest SuperSU beta I believe.

I have been unsuccessful at rooting stock nougat, it just gets stuck on the boot animation forever and the battery heats up.
So, has anyone rooted it on nougat 7.0 and how?
Every time I try it just gets stuck loading and since I can't logcat to it I have no idea where its failing, but fastboot flashing the system image and the boot image fixes it, but then I am stuck back at non-root.
I know there has to be a way as many others say they are rooted just fine so I must be missing something.
I have several apps that use root and do system tweaks that would be helpful, mostly battery saving, option enabling, etc... But I can't use any of them for now. I especially wanted to use the undervolt and system governers min max settings.

roadrun777 said:
I have been unsuccessful at rooting stock nougat, it just gets stuck on the boot animation forever and the battery heats up.
So, has anyone rooted it on nougat 7.0 and how?
Every time I try it just gets stuck loading and since I can't logcat to it I have no idea where its failing, but fastboot flashing the system image and the boot image fixes it, but then I am stuck back at non-root.
I know there has to be a way as many others say they are rooted just fine so I must be missing something.
I have several apps that use root and do system tweaks that would be helpful, mostly battery saving, option enabling, etc... But I can't use any of them for now. I especially wanted to use the undervolt and system governers min max settings.
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Yes, lots of people have rooted it... latest TWRP and Magisk, nothing special to do at all... Flash or boot TWRP and flash Magisk zip file, reboot and go.

Unlocked bootloader must have.
1st method:
Boot twrp - fastboot boot twrp3x.img
Do full backup,
Restore boot only,
In twrp install magisk14.zip, optionally wipe cache+dalvik, reboot.
2nd method
...the same steps,
Twrp terminal - type + ok:
echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu
Install SuperSu2.82.zip, opt.wipe..., reboot.
Both method works.

I finally find magisk and it worked first time for me.
I tried SuperSU about 10 times in a row, systemless false, systemless true, etc, without it, and it always ended the same way boot loops.
So I am not sure that SuperSu2.82.zip is currently compatible with nougat, or at least with nougat + xt1565 hardware.

roadrun777 said:
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So I am not sure that SuperSu2.82.zip is currently compatible with nougat, or at least with nougat + xt1565 hardware.
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I wrote here(#8):
1st December 2017, 02:11 PM,
Here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/stock-xt-1572-reteu-7-0-ddumped-files-t3712521
30. November, 2017...rooted 29.
SuSu 2.82 is compatible.

Magisk Framework comes with SuperUser built in.. so when you flash another superuser, you mixing Binaries and it doesn't know which one to use.

Has Anyone Gotten a Custom ROM onto a BLN-L24 (US Variant)?

I have tried quite a few ROMs, and all ended up going back to stock firmware because they wouldn't boot. I know I have to format data, and some ROMs ask you to change the data partition as f2fs.
Still, I think that there may be no ROMs that currently work for the US variant. One guy said LOS 13 worked, but when I flashed it, it failed. If someone has gotten it to work, can you please post as many steps as you remember on how to get it work?

Debrand to BLN-L21 following this guide and you're ready to flash cooked ROMs https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/guide-successful-debranding-to-bln-t3701050

RedSkull23 said:
Debrand to BLN-L21 following this guide and you're ready to flash cooked ROMs https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/guide-successful-debranding-to-bln-t3701050
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Thanks, but wouldn't there be more issues down the line with a debranded phone? What if I soft-bricked my phone, it seems like it'd be really hard to restore? Has anyone actually ever done this on a BLN-L24?

Hello all,
I too am having issues with flashing roms to this device, US variant (BLN-L24). In my particular case, the rom boots up (EliteRom v7.1) and will actually function. However, wifi does not work, as well as I have no sound whatsoever. Youtube also will not play, nor will any videos, which I'm guessing is tied to whatever issue is with the sound. I have flashed multiple times per the step by step instructions, as well as following the Youtube video, all with the same result over the last few days. At this point, my phone is effectively useless to me, though cellular data does still work, just no calls can be answered. Anyone have any suggestions I might be able to follow? Also, even my TWRP backup that I made before installing the rom will not restore at this point. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Jessooca said:
You must be missing a step or something, because [Elite ROM][EMUI 5.1] Elite ROM v7.1 for Honor 6X by HassanMirza01 works on the L24 us variant without issues, I have none.
Perhaps go back to stock and start over. I haven't had any issues with his rom and I didn't do anything more than what's needed to root/install twrp and flash the rom per his instructions.
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I just followed the instructions; I believe to the best I could, and I'm stuck in a bootloop now. Which version of EMUI were you on before flashing? I was on EMUI 5.0 which may be my issue.
I started from EMUI 5.0
Unlocked my bootloader
Let it factory reset
Installed the Elite TWRP on the page
Booted to Elite TWRP
Formatted all partitions excpet for external sd card
Reformatted Data to f2fs
Re-wiped data
Checked that it was f2fs
Installed Elite ROM zip
Installed open gapps 7.0 ARM64
Installed the patch
Rebooted
Bootloop

i4ybrid said:
I just followed the instructions; I believe to the best I could, and I'm stuck in a bootloop now. Which version of EMUI were you on before flashing? I was on EMUI 5.0 which may be my issue.
I started from EMUI 5.0
Unlocked my bootloader
Let it factory reset
Installed the Elite TWRP on the page
Booted to Elite TWRP
Formatted all partitions excpet for external sd card
Reformatted Data to f2fs
Re-wiped data
Checked that it was f2fs
Installed Elite ROM zip
Installed open gapps 7.0 ARM64
Installed the patch
Rebooted
Bootloop
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On one of the attempts that I did for installing, I installed the patch and it put me in a boot loop. Maybe not installing the patch can help you?

I cant get anything to work for the US version. Sure stuff boots but some of it is just broken. On octOS i am unable to use root unless i switch supersu to automatically grant root to apps. I cant get root access by using prompt because nothing pops up. On crdroid i have the same exact issue. Id rather have the prompt than allow any app root access without my knowledge. With ELITE ROM my first boot brings up a home screen with no keyboard. It completely skips any kind of setup screen. I can get the setup screen by flashing a keyboard from an aroma gapps installer but then i lose google services. The US version also seems to be forgotten as for most roms you wont see it anywhere under supported lists.

I've never been able to get a custom rom to work on my BLN-L24. Everything just ends in a never-ending bootloop of frustration.
Though, I have only ever tried with EMUI 5.0+. Maybe an earlier version of EMUI gets better results...?

code_name_duchess said:
I've never been able to get a custom rom to work on my BLN-L24. Everything just ends in a never-ending bootloop of frustration.
Though, I have only ever tried with EMUI 5.0+. Maybe an earlier version of EMUI gets better results...?
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It really sucks that nothing seems to work. Ive tried flashing using multiple recoveries and ive tried all kinds of flashing to fix issues with the ROMS. Nothing helps. If anyone has successfully gotten a ROM fully working on BLN-L24 they need to tell people exactly what they did step by step.

It seems that for the roms located here, they seem to all assume that the phone has been debranded to bln-l21 variant. I don't know if it has any bearing on the current issues we're all experiencing, but I did notice that all twrps available for this device on the forums state they are the "Open Kirin Edition". It's been a while since I've rooted or rom'd a phone besides this one, but I've never encountered a twrp with a custom name like that.
I know that the developer of the EliteRom had his custom twrp, but is there a different twrp besides that one that does not state it is an "Open Kirin Edition"? Like I said, not sure if it has any bearing on things here, but I've been very confused about that.

TurtlePwr82 said:
It seems that for the roms located here, they seem to all assume that the phone has been debranded to bln-l21 variant. I don't know if it has any bearing on the current issues we're all experiencing, but I did notice that all twrps available for this device on the forums state they are the "Open Kirin Edition". It's been a while since I've rooted or rom'd a phone besides this one, but I've never encountered a twrp with a custom name like that.
I know that the developer of the EliteRom had his custom twrp, but is there a different twrp besides that one that does not state it is an "Open Kirin Edition"? Like I said, not sure if it has any bearing on things here, but I've been very confused about that.
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For most phone i've ever owned you never had to change the recovery for each ROM. Its confusing. Most recoverys say Open Kirin Edition when booting. What confuses me is why we need to debrand to get the ROMS to work. If the phone pretty much run on the same hardware then why is L24 having so many issues? Why are the devs not testing on these devices?

BakedOnSomeSour said:
For most phone i've ever owned you never had to change the recovery for each ROM. Its confusing
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Right, that's what I was thinking. For any phone I've ever rom'd, there was always just one twrp that everyone worked from.
Edit: found this while looking through the roll back to stock forum. I don't know if it will help anyone else, but figured I'd put it here as well if it might. All credit for this goes to the original poster johnnyrichter:
johnnyrichter said:
Tried this method after being on LineageOS for a week or two and having poor LTE signal, no MMS, and voicemail issues so I'm trying to go back to stock so I can have a fully functional phone since I rely on it heavily for work. Followed all steps using BLN-L24 B360 firmware. On step 10 I rebooted to update and it went right to "5% Installing Update" and stuck there for 5 mins, then rebooted itself, has been sitting at "honor" boot screen for 14 minutes so I made it reboot to EMUI recovery, wiped/factory reset, rebooted, loaded EMUI afte 2 more minutes. Appears to have worked and hopefully my issues are fixed!
Edit: Signal, mms, and voicemail issues fixed.
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Hopefully will benefit someone here as well.

When debranding the BLN-L24, and branding it to BLN-L21, are there any issues with the ROMs once they're installed? I imagine the radios, and such are different for the two models??

BakedOnSomeSour said:
Why are the devs not testing on these devices?
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Devs can only test devices they have in possession. If they don't have your phone model, how are they going to test it?

galapagos said:
Devs can only test devices they have in possession. If they don't have your phone model, how are they going to test it?
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well, many don't want to give them a phone because most developers here tend to stop work on a ROM and leave people hanging.

I have gotten several ROMs working on L24 variant...
Yes it seems to me any Elite kernel based ROM works or should work on the L24. But /data must be ext4 format. Then even that the ROM works, the fingerprint scanner never allows a complete successful scan. I think because it must be f2fs format for that encryption to work or something. This is the link to those ROMS https://hassanmirza01.blogspot.com/p/custom-roms.html?m=1
On the other hand the LOS based ROMs never work or at least they reboot and the screen is always black or the ROM branding just stays there flashing. This sucks cause I want to run the newest Resurrection ROM but I ask the developer about why I have that problem or how long that ROM takes to boot and I never get an answer. He also just put a new beta AOKP ROM up and it does the same black screen thing too.
I am also suspicious it has to do with the version of TWRP. I think some are capable of formatting f2fs correctly or the encryption or whatever. Point is some of the devs need to be a little more consistent answering questions at a minimum. I know it takes time to fix bugs but give us a little heads up.

Honor 8 Update question. Flash Oreo from emui 5

I have recently changed phones and given my Honor 8 to my daughter.
She loves things like snapchat and other social apps.... She is in high school....
Come to find out my rooted stock, with Xposed TWRP , does not like things like snapchat.
So figured would flash newest Oreo on it or a custom rom , then probably do a magisk install. At least that would give me some root options.
Problem is I have tried updating via updater, that didnt work.
And hear that Honor 8 has bootloader lock issues (Found out how to do this from XDA so that may not be an issue).
TWRP (at least the version I have) does not do a nandroid backup.
I would like to save the apps on there but do have them backed up with TB.
I do NOT want to screw up the process of updating and want to do it best and easiest way possible.
What are my best options for doing this ?
Thank you

eracet said:
I have recently changed phones and given my Honor 8 to my daughter.
She loves things like snapchat and other social apps.... She is in high school....
Come to find out my rooted stock, with Xposed TWRP , does not like things like snapchat.
So figured would flash newest Oreo on it or a custom rom , then probably do a magisk install. At least that would give me some root options.
Problem is I have tried updating via updater, that didnt work.
And hear that Honor 8 has bootloader lock issues (Found out how to do this from XDA so that may not be an issue).
TWRP (at least the version I have) does not do a nandroid backup.
I would like to save the apps on there but do have them backed up with TB.
I do NOT want to screw up the process of updating and want to do it best and easiest way possible.
What are my best options for doing this ?
Thank you
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hi
since 7-8days ago, Firmware finder server is down and we dont have access to it links so, you should wait for it to get back online and use oreo links
but the best instruction i have find is this one :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/guide-flashing-unapproved-firmwares-t3668306

Snapchat fails because it detects root and xposed. So you could just use magisk hide and delete xposed.

agraceful said:
Snapchat fails because it detects root and xposed. So you could just use magisk hide and delete xposed.
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Yes I tried that , but didnt work right. So deciding on just flashing the entire thing over to Oreo.
One of the things I am wondering is what happens if I do a data wipe, and full Oreo flash from TWRP. Will it work or mess things up.
I finally have a hold of the phone today. so doing a full TB right now.
Trying to get a phone out of a hands of a teenager......
oops is EMUI 4.1

eracet said:
Yes I tried that , but didnt work right. So deciding on just flashing the entire thing over to Oreo.
One of the things I am wondering is what happens if I do a data wipe, and full Oreo flash from TWRP. Will it work or mess things up.
I finally have a hold of the phone today. so doing a full TB right now.
Trying to get a phone out of a hands of a teenager......
oops is EMUI 4.1
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I flashed firmware over from Huawei website. and now it is on stock , all with apps staying, no root and stock recovery and locked.
When doing an update VIA settings it tells me everything is up to date.
Will keep working with it ,
Need not to try to do shortcuts and take my time instead. May learn something....
Looks like latest official update is EMUI 4.1 /android 6 Is that right?

Root OpenKirin Resurrection Remix 6.2.0

So I am running beta 3 of Ressurection Remix from OpenKirin website. Everything is smooth even after heavy tweaks. But I want to root this ROM. Reason is I want to uninstall built-in apps and some of my apps require root access. I already tried rooting the ramdisk.img. it failed. Even though it was rooted root access wasn't available. So can I directly flash latest magisk via elemental ROM TWRP? Or is there any other method?

Like you, I'm on the same build from yesterday, and obviously the minimum that I'd like to do is to root the ROM, since that we already miss a fully working TWRP and a compatible Xposed framework.
I discovered just yesterday topjohnwu's thread about patching the stock boot.img with the custom Magisk Manager apk for Huawei devices, but before doing everything I've decided to make a search on XDA, and I've stumbled upon this. So neither patching the stock ramdisk.img works?? Dammit. Becsuse standing by what i know, flashing latest Magisk on an A only GSI works, but i haven't read successful cases rooting an OpenKirin ROM yet.
I'd like to test this method, but i still have to setup some stuff on this ROM, and so i don't want to try something that could mess up system, trashing all the time that I've spent on configuring the device.
I'll update ya as soon as i can, if something useful should come out. I hope to update you soon!

Dude. I have done it and would like to tell you that it can be flashed normally. Currently enjoying root with all modules working. If you have an honor 6x just flash TWRP from elemental room thread and then latest magisk. So far no issues, no bootloop. However after first installation I recommend you to install via direct patch once again to ensure everything works. i.eif you still wanna know. This is way simpler

Thanks for letting me know mate, yeah i have a 6X. Actually I've installed TWRP and flashed latest stable Magisk, V17.1. Magisk is correctly detected by Magisk Manager.
Now, the file that i should provide to patch on Magisk Manager is stock EMUI 8.0 boot.img, correct?

Nope. If you have magisk installed just direct install once again via magisk manager and you're good to go

Thanks Mannan, I'm enjoying root goodies too now.
I take the chance to ask ya if sound mods like Viper/Dolby Atmos will also work or not as a Magisk module, since that time ago (but even recently) i saw some users that was saying in a couple of threads that flashing one of these would corrupt system files, and so EMUI 8 had to be flashed again.

First of all we aren't on EMUI 8bso no corruption. We are on Android 8.1 so any Sound Mod for this Firmware should work. Now I haven't flashed it yet cause mainly I have to find a working one and of the risk of soft brick. But I will try and let you know if I find a working one. Same goes for exposed framework

Got it. Well it would be great, especially Xposed in systemless version.
EDIT - going off topic a while, even you notice a charging time much slower than on stock? Before, i usually charged something like 60-65% in one hour, now it tooks at least 1 hour and an half to achieve the same percentage of battery. Gotta tweak this someway.

Tried installing Viper4android. Gives IO error while mounting driver. Xposed I havent tried

Mannan Qamar said:
Tried installing Viper4android. Gives IO error while mounting driver. Xposed I havent tried
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Thanks for the feedback. Sadly i think that Xposed won't work too.

Question Any Tmo 2117 users try or use Lineage?

The 2117 model is not mentioned in official compatibility, but all the others are. Any Tmobile users running Lineage or know if it works?

I used it for a bit. Works good as any other device IMO.
Follow This guide on the official page.

Im just iffy on the whole thing- Still on A11 OOS11 and Im hearing Ill possibly need A12 firmware as a base before install? I cant just use TWRP and flash? Its been ages since I went custom (HTC One Cyanogen with CWM, I believe we were able to use TWRP as well back then) and it sounds like you need Lineage Recovery?
Can I follow that guide straight from rooted *BL unlocked A11 OOS11? No updates have been applied to my phone afaik. Disabled right away.

TimmyP said:
Im just iffy on the whole thing- Still on A11 OOS11 and Im hearing Ill possibly need A12 firmware as a base before install? I cant just use TWRP and flash? Its been ages since I went custom (HTC One Cyanogen with CWM, I believe we were able to use TWRP as well back then) and it sounds like you need Lineage Recovery?
Can I follow that guide straight from rooted *BL unlocked A11 OOS11? No updates have been applied to my phone afaik. Disabled right away.
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Lineage updates the firmware as part of the install.

Ah thank you! Ill prolly do it after some time. I'm completely happy on 11 for now. Have it debloated and set up with xposed modules and everything.

I've used lineage before on the le2117 but decided to switch to evolution x since it's packed with features

What the battery life like between the two? I dont necessarily need features since I add everything I need with magisk\lsposed. This stock rooted rom Im on now is getting great battery life.

On both installation pages for this and EvoX, it says you need to be on A13 firmware. Is this a hard requirement? Or can I truly just flash my phone as it is currently? Stock root, A11, OOS11?
I cant do OTA updates, nor can I install downloaded updates (via the settings app) either because I converted, or its Magisk or something...
How did you get you Tmos to 13? Were you already updated before rooting? Did the OTA work after root for you? I just get install failed immediately with the downloaded package.
Any input would be appreciated Im in no rush, and I already have a backup setup for after conversion (assuming Migrate works on this phone, seems to so far).