I asked Motorola support already and that was a bust. Anyone who has this phone, do you know if can run 64 bit Android apps or just 32 bit ones? I assume it's the latter like Motorola's other budget phones, but I just wanted to to know before I think about grabbing one for tinkering with.
When I checked Antutu, the phone's OS is, unfortunately 32 bit.
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Found this very interesting article on gsmarena about an upcoming tablet by Viewsonic... I never thought it was possible but dual booting Windows 7 and Android 2.2+ ? What does this mean for our Gtab? your thoughts?
http://blog.gsmarena.com/viewsonic-unveils-dual-sim-v350-phone-and-dual-boot-viewpad-10pro/
**I hope that our Gtab would live on even after all these radical tablet advances for 2011.
Intel CPU. For Android, it must be compiled for that CPU I assume - but since so many apps are ARM-based it might limit its usefulness.
atom cpu = crap battery life for this type of device. About the same as a netbook, 3.5 hrs or so compared to 10+ hrs of ARM based tegra2 in gtabs. Plus win7 on an atom performance would probably be pretty low. Not worth it.
s14tam said:
atom cpu = crap battery life for this type of device. About the same as a netbook, 3.5 hrs or so compared to 10+ hrs of ARM based tegra2 in gtabs. Plus win7 on an atom performance would probably be pretty low. Not worth it.
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this i agree on... kinda funny how, in the article, viewsonic stated that the battery life will "last at least 6 hours"... with day-to-day use that might translate to about 3-4 hours tops just hope that Gtab support by viewsonic (however little it may be) won't be discontinued just cuz they have a new toy to market now...
Inclined to also agree but must say that the atom cpu on my HP2140 netbook running win7 Pro isn't the slowest turtle in the race. Extended battery gives me about 5-6 hrs. Wouldn't expect that life on a tab though.
Recently, I've been doing some testing of Android X86, and their FAQ mentions that some Apps may work, while others, that use native ARM code, won't. I know that that's probably pretty obvious, but it seems like VS should caution potential users about that, or they'll get a bunch of unhappy users when they can't run all Android Alps.
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Nah this isnt a run of the mill Atom. Its the one they made after Moorestown to fight these ARM tabs. Oak trail is an SOC much like Tegra. Its supposed to have super low TDP and pull off ARM like battery life. Since desktop apps tend to be more demanding, this remains to be seen.
I don't think they said it will have full market ability stock anyways so people can't really complain if it can't run all apps.
Also, doubt any x86 proc can match an ARM chip in battery even if it is a SOC. Viewsonics page even seems to confirm this as it says it is rated for 4hrs.
At work, we're starting to talk with Microsoft about ARM versions of Windows. I've tossed my name into the hat as a developer. I suspect I won't be able to use my G-Tablet but will forced to get some other Windows ARM device.
So far Microsoft is keeping things fairly quiet on the ARM front. I expect to find out more in the next several months.
Sent from my G-Tablet running Vega-Nb5.1
Unlike the first Viewpad 10 you don't have to reboot to switch between Android and Windows. Here's a video:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/viewsonic-viewpad-10pro-hands-on/
ok viewsonic has 2 of these tablets that look exactly the same and same price, One runs android 2.2, the other one dual boots windows 7 home premium and android 1.6. this one also has a dual core intel atom 1.6 ghz processor, 1 gb ram and 16 gb storage.
http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_00382001000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1#specs
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7212231
Possible to flash the windows 7 one with newer version of android like 2.2 or higher? Already has 1.6 on it
First, Kmart's listing my be incorrect. I think it could just be a g-tablet mistakenly labled as the Viewsonic's dual boot device. Much like Sears had on their sight originally.
Second, I believe its a single core Intel Atom processor.
Thirdly, Officially Intel X86 processors don't support anything over Android 1.6. There is project by a group of developers that are working on getting 2.2 to run on X86 processors. I don't know much about the effort so you will have to do a search.
Lastly, realize that a tablet running on an intel processor will get much less battey life that one running on ARM processors.
That's about all I can tell you. Hope it helped some.
That ad is incorrect. The listing and price is for a G-Tablet, but the product description below is for the Viewpad 10, which sells for well over $500 and does run W7 and Android 1.6.
The G-Tablet is ARM, Viewpad is Atom (x86).
I don't think there is an easily usable x86-friendly ROM with 2.2 yet. Read all about it here:http://www.android-x86.org/
They are not the same; you should specially take a look at the processor.
Gtablet has a tegra 250 that give a great power with a low energy consumption(Nut it wont run windows until the drivers are written)
The other one has an atom processor. Good speed and power but has a bigger energy consumption(around 3 or 4 hours with a single charge if lucky) and is able to run windows.
I would highly recommend Tegra 250 tablet just because it gives a much better tablet experience and the opportunity to upgrade to honeycomb.
A friend of mine locally came across the same ad for K Mart. went down to the store saw the device, asked questions, then went to purchase. when they wanted to charge him 599.00 he (with a smile) pulled a copy of the ad from his pocket and exclaimed "that's not what the ad says". They honored the price for him and he is less than pleased. I was able to test drive it for 30 min, and did not like it one bit.
The dual boot slows it down way too much, touch interface is less than responsive.
We tried 2 times to get it to flash and was unsuccessful in doing so. He is considering taking it back for a refund and buying the 2.2 droid version from Office Depot.
So if you MUST have W7 on ur Tab for whatever reason...this is not the device you want. My suggestion would be to wait for the ASUS tabs running W7 when they are released. STAY away from the VS dual boot G Tab.
Just my 2 cents.
The upcoming Viewpad 10Pro will dual boot between Windows and Android 2.2 and you don't have to reboot to switch from one to the other.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/viewsonic-viewpad-10pro-hands-on/
I'm not a fan of the Atom processor. My netbook has one and its GPU is very weak. It struggles with flash files. That is why I went with the gTablet with the Tegra2 its a very strong processor. Now with all that said no I can't load windows 7 and will most likely never be able to because of the processor instructions (ARM) are not compatible with windows 7 maybe windows 8 down the road. With that said I am not willing to sacrifice performance just to load a weak windows 7. I understand of course that you might have needs for windows we all do but I will find work arounds.
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The upcoming Viewpad 10Pro will dual boot between Windows and Android 2.2 and you don't have to reboot to switch from one to the other.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/viewsonic-viewpad-10pro-hands-on/
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I don't believe it is a true dual boot as they even say that Android 2.2 is running via a virtualization.
I will be getting a new laptop In a few months primarily because mine is very outdated (4 yrs old running c2d) and it freezes occasionally but besides that I asked on another forum for laptop recommendations and someone suggested that I look at some Ultrabooks for their portability (I want a laptop that's not very heavy, less than 6lbs). I'll also need it for college, Im planning on going into animation, so I'll need it for that too.
Specs for the laptop that I'd want:
Lightweight:< 6lbs
13-15" screen
Budget: 1K-1.5K
1gb+ dedicated graphics card
Core i7 processor (multi-core)
6+ hrs battery life
The 2 things keeping me from getting an Ultrabook are the lack of a disk drive (minimal effect) and storage space as most SSD's are 256gb max. That being said what are some Laptop/Ultrabook recommendations based on my specs (The specs given are what I'm looking for, anything else is optional).
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I will be getting a new laptop In a few months primarily because mine is very outdated (4 yrs old running c2d) and it freezes occasionally but besides that I asked on another forum for laptop recommendations and someone suggested that I look at some Ultrabooks for their portability (I want a laptop that's not very heavy, less than 6lbs). I'll also need it for college, Im planning on going into animation, so I'll need it for that too.
Specs for the laptop that I'd want:
Lightweight:< 6lbs
13-15" screen
Budget: 1K-1.5K
1gb+ dedicated graphics card
Core i7 processor (multi-core)
6+ hrs battery life
The 2 things keeping me from getting an Ultrabook are the lack of a disk drive (minimal effect) and storage space as most SSD's are 256gb max. That being said what are some Laptop/Ultrabook recommendations based on my specs (The specs given are what I'm looking for, anything else is optional).
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HP Folio us the best non-apple Ultrabook out there, impressive specs but the memory expansion on all of them is very limited so i would suggest a regular laptop/notebook with higher specs such as HP G-series very light with an optical drive. honestly i dont remember the lat time i used an optical drive for anything but thats just me.
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HP Folio us the best non-apple Ultrabook out there, impressive specs but the memory expansion on all of them is very limited so i would suggest a regular laptop/notebook with higher specs such as HP G-series very light with an optical drive. honestly i dont remember the lat time i used an optical drive for anything but thats just me.
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It doesn't have an i7, but I was able to find a laptop with the things that was lightweight and had what I wanted. For some reason I tried to stay away from HP because I keep hearing negative things about their products.
So cool. A 64 bit OS that isn't meebo or debian. Awesome!
Now what I want to know is how much of a difference this is going to make. My phone is already a quad core 64 bit but on a 32 bit OS. I don't notice anything terrible except for cyanogenmod being crappy.
With this thing in line what is going to be the difference? I have an old 32 bit dual core machine and my laptop is a dual core 64 bit machine. They both work at the same pace. I don't see the difference really.
I wasn't sure where to post this, since a board for the Tab3 7 doesn't exist.
Anyway, I wanted to give my thoughts on this tablet.
First of all, I'm amazed that it's running Android Marshmallow considering how cheap it is, at $99. But looking through the specifications, it listed that the tablet only has 1GB of RAM.. that makes me cringe a little. 1GB of RAM with Android 6.0? I'm not too familiar with Marshmallow, but there's probably going to be some lag every once and a while. Next, the 1024x600 display. I mean, it's far from bad, but it's a little low considering the standard for today is at least 1280x800. Other than that, there's not really any downside to this tablet. If anyone has a Tab3 7, please tell me how performance is on the device,
Thanks!
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I wasn't sure where to post this, since a board for the Tab3 7 doesn't exist.
Anyway, I wanted to give my thoughts on this tablet.
First of all, I'm amazed that it's running Android Marshmallow considering how cheap it is, at $99. But looking through the specifications, it listed that the tablet only has 1GB of RAM.. that makes me cringe a little. 1GB of RAM with Android 6.0? I'm not too familiar with Marshmallow, but there's probably going to be some lag every once and a while. Next, the 1024x600 display. I mean, it's far from bad, but it's a little low considering the standard for today is at least 1280x800. Other than that, there's not really any downside to this tablet. If anyone has a Tab3 7, please tell me how performance is on the device,
Thanks!
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very fast
i use tab2 with cm13 and also fast
and marshmallow in not very heavy as u thought ,i use it on phone with single core and performance is good