ok viewsonic has 2 of these tablets that look exactly the same and same price, One runs android 2.2, the other one dual boots windows 7 home premium and android 1.6. this one also has a dual core intel atom 1.6 ghz processor, 1 gb ram and 16 gb storage.
http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_00382001000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1#specs
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7212231
Possible to flash the windows 7 one with newer version of android like 2.2 or higher? Already has 1.6 on it
First, Kmart's listing my be incorrect. I think it could just be a g-tablet mistakenly labled as the Viewsonic's dual boot device. Much like Sears had on their sight originally.
Second, I believe its a single core Intel Atom processor.
Thirdly, Officially Intel X86 processors don't support anything over Android 1.6. There is project by a group of developers that are working on getting 2.2 to run on X86 processors. I don't know much about the effort so you will have to do a search.
Lastly, realize that a tablet running on an intel processor will get much less battey life that one running on ARM processors.
That's about all I can tell you. Hope it helped some.
That ad is incorrect. The listing and price is for a G-Tablet, but the product description below is for the Viewpad 10, which sells for well over $500 and does run W7 and Android 1.6.
The G-Tablet is ARM, Viewpad is Atom (x86).
I don't think there is an easily usable x86-friendly ROM with 2.2 yet. Read all about it here:http://www.android-x86.org/
They are not the same; you should specially take a look at the processor.
Gtablet has a tegra 250 that give a great power with a low energy consumption(Nut it wont run windows until the drivers are written)
The other one has an atom processor. Good speed and power but has a bigger energy consumption(around 3 or 4 hours with a single charge if lucky) and is able to run windows.
I would highly recommend Tegra 250 tablet just because it gives a much better tablet experience and the opportunity to upgrade to honeycomb.
A friend of mine locally came across the same ad for K Mart. went down to the store saw the device, asked questions, then went to purchase. when they wanted to charge him 599.00 he (with a smile) pulled a copy of the ad from his pocket and exclaimed "that's not what the ad says". They honored the price for him and he is less than pleased. I was able to test drive it for 30 min, and did not like it one bit.
The dual boot slows it down way too much, touch interface is less than responsive.
We tried 2 times to get it to flash and was unsuccessful in doing so. He is considering taking it back for a refund and buying the 2.2 droid version from Office Depot.
So if you MUST have W7 on ur Tab for whatever reason...this is not the device you want. My suggestion would be to wait for the ASUS tabs running W7 when they are released. STAY away from the VS dual boot G Tab.
Just my 2 cents.
The upcoming Viewpad 10Pro will dual boot between Windows and Android 2.2 and you don't have to reboot to switch from one to the other.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/viewsonic-viewpad-10pro-hands-on/
I'm not a fan of the Atom processor. My netbook has one and its GPU is very weak. It struggles with flash files. That is why I went with the gTablet with the Tegra2 its a very strong processor. Now with all that said no I can't load windows 7 and will most likely never be able to because of the processor instructions (ARM) are not compatible with windows 7 maybe windows 8 down the road. With that said I am not willing to sacrifice performance just to load a weak windows 7. I understand of course that you might have needs for windows we all do but I will find work arounds.
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The upcoming Viewpad 10Pro will dual boot between Windows and Android 2.2 and you don't have to reboot to switch from one to the other.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/viewsonic-viewpad-10pro-hands-on/
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I don't believe it is a true dual boot as they even say that Android 2.2 is running via a virtualization.
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Found this very interesting article on gsmarena about an upcoming tablet by Viewsonic... I never thought it was possible but dual booting Windows 7 and Android 2.2+ ? What does this mean for our Gtab? your thoughts?
http://blog.gsmarena.com/viewsonic-unveils-dual-sim-v350-phone-and-dual-boot-viewpad-10pro/
**I hope that our Gtab would live on even after all these radical tablet advances for 2011.
Intel CPU. For Android, it must be compiled for that CPU I assume - but since so many apps are ARM-based it might limit its usefulness.
atom cpu = crap battery life for this type of device. About the same as a netbook, 3.5 hrs or so compared to 10+ hrs of ARM based tegra2 in gtabs. Plus win7 on an atom performance would probably be pretty low. Not worth it.
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atom cpu = crap battery life for this type of device. About the same as a netbook, 3.5 hrs or so compared to 10+ hrs of ARM based tegra2 in gtabs. Plus win7 on an atom performance would probably be pretty low. Not worth it.
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this i agree on... kinda funny how, in the article, viewsonic stated that the battery life will "last at least 6 hours"... with day-to-day use that might translate to about 3-4 hours tops just hope that Gtab support by viewsonic (however little it may be) won't be discontinued just cuz they have a new toy to market now...
Inclined to also agree but must say that the atom cpu on my HP2140 netbook running win7 Pro isn't the slowest turtle in the race. Extended battery gives me about 5-6 hrs. Wouldn't expect that life on a tab though.
Recently, I've been doing some testing of Android X86, and their FAQ mentions that some Apps may work, while others, that use native ARM code, won't. I know that that's probably pretty obvious, but it seems like VS should caution potential users about that, or they'll get a bunch of unhappy users when they can't run all Android Alps.
Jim
Nah this isnt a run of the mill Atom. Its the one they made after Moorestown to fight these ARM tabs. Oak trail is an SOC much like Tegra. Its supposed to have super low TDP and pull off ARM like battery life. Since desktop apps tend to be more demanding, this remains to be seen.
I don't think they said it will have full market ability stock anyways so people can't really complain if it can't run all apps.
Also, doubt any x86 proc can match an ARM chip in battery even if it is a SOC. Viewsonics page even seems to confirm this as it says it is rated for 4hrs.
At work, we're starting to talk with Microsoft about ARM versions of Windows. I've tossed my name into the hat as a developer. I suspect I won't be able to use my G-Tablet but will forced to get some other Windows ARM device.
So far Microsoft is keeping things fairly quiet on the ARM front. I expect to find out more in the next several months.
Sent from my G-Tablet running Vega-Nb5.1
Unlike the first Viewpad 10 you don't have to reboot to switch between Android and Windows. Here's a video:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/viewsonic-viewpad-10pro-hands-on/
I know the Viewsonic viewpad 10/ G tablet (viewpad 10: It is a name in Chinese. notice viewpad 1o is not viewpad 10s. Viewpad 10s has a Intel N445 CPU, DDR3 1Gb ram, and It run Windows 7)
G tab only has one DDR2 512mb ram but has a powerful Dual-Core ARM Cortex A9 (DDR2-667 (Tegra 250)) 1 GHz, per core from.
My questions are:
1. Can I replace a DDR2-667 1GB ram on the Viewsonic G tablet?
2. Is there anyone have installed the Android 3.0 Honeycomb on G tablet? Is it stable? Is it 512 ram enough for Android 3.0 Honeycomb?
3. Are all Android softwares run full screen on G tablet? such as, UC browser, QQ Music, Angry Bird, Some E-Book Reader, Skyfire, Skype, Sky Browser, UC Thunder, Document to Go...
Oh there is one more question.
Compare the quality (not include price)
Malata Zpad T2, T8 VS ViewSonic G tablet?
Which one is better. I know they have NVIDIA Tegra 2 A9 dual-core, but Zpad T2 and T8 they have 1Gb ram. T8 (screen is a clone of ipad) is IPS screen so IPS screen has a better viewing angle than G tablet.
After you guys reading these above. Should I wait for NVIDIA Tegra 3 which is 1,5 GHz 4 core cpu release in 2012.
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The viewpad 10 is the dual boot with intel CPU, the vp10s is the viewsonic version of the advent vega with a slightly different outer case.
The Malata smb-b1004/1005 is an upcoming version which will release with honeycomb and has a better screen. It was announced/demo'd at MWC in Feb. But I don't think it is available yet. I think these are sometimes called the zPad T2.
The zPad T8 is quite expensive and is out now but with Froyo.
I think for half the price and with good developer community, the gTablet is still the winner.
I would stick with the tegra tabs. The updated gtab/Malata tab should b out soon. Those have better screen and 1g DDR. Pricing not revealed yet but. Guarantee it'll be more expensive.
I think 512 is enough for honeycomb but a gig would be great too.
the gtab is just a solid value. The best priced tablet to date, spec wise.
Honeycomb on the gtab
I had a nook color and ran Honeycomb on it just from an early dump found somewhere and it ran fine. obviously there were a few bugs but it ran very well. The gtab should have no issues when someone gets Honeycomb ported over.
To actually answer some questions:
1. Not possible without soldering, special tools and skills.
2. No honeycomb yet.
3. The vast majority work well and fullscreen. Some don't.
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My questions are:
1. Can I replace a DDR2-667 1GB ram on the Viewsonic G tablet?
2. Is there anyone have installed the Android 3.0 Honeycomb on G tablet? Is it stable? Is it 512 ram enough for Android 3.0 Honeycomb?
3. Are all Android softwares run full screen on G tablet? such as, UC browser, QQ Music, Angry Bird, Some E-Book Reader, Skyfire, Skype, Sky Browser, UC Thunder, Document to Go...
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Wait for the tegra 3 if you want that kinda power, the tegra 3 is great, but the tegra 2 is pretty awesome for right now. Technology changes and moves so fast that by the time tegra 3 comes out ull want to wait for the tegra 4 that is already slated.
Its all personal pref.
If you are looking for a windows type system, maybe wait for a great version of the linux distro Ubunutu that is being cooked up to a full working version.
I based my decision to buy the GTab on the fact that the Tablet race is just getting started. Spending a lot of money right now to me is wasteful. I can get the best price / performance value right here and later in the year or even next year see where everything falls with the upcoming tablets. No need to spend five or six hundred for really very little, if any performance gain.
thanks for your answers
Hi guys,
I couldn't find searching but is there any smartphone yet that support full desktop os? like Linux mint or windows 7?
or may be a list of such phones!!
I mean now that we have tons of phone with high configurations like Snapdragon 800 based phone (2.2 GHz quad core cpu, 2GB ram, 32GB rom). installing desktop os should be just matter of someone to figures out boot-loader properly. if ARM architecture is a problem, then we have tons of phone with x86 based cpu as well. (like Asus ZenFone 5 or 6 with Intel Z2580) these cups supports full x86 instruction set MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3 and all that.
the reason i'm looking for is, to use it as Single Board Computer. I mean a cellphone is much painless to to carry then a HummingBoard or Banana Pi box. there are bunch of commercial Single Board Computer that comes with desktop os it like "utilite2" but none of them are as slick and stylist as a modern cellphone! plus phone has its own power source and cellular wireless. and not mention its own display for the case when i'm unable to find a monitor.
so any suggestion?
thanks
BTW, each forum (including device forums) has a Q&A/Help/Troubleshooting section where questions should be asked. I expect a mod to move this one here soon.
Before we start this off, I just want to say I understand a lot of Android devices have an ARM processor in them. Mine has an Intel Atom.
I have the Dell Venue 8 tablet with the Intel Atom processor in it. Through doing research, I've found the Dell Venue 8 pro has a slightly better version of the same processor I have. So, it got me wondering if my tablet could run Windows on it as well. I've done a lot of research, but came up dry for Android devices that don't have an ARM processor in it. So, with the assumption that the specs are compatible, my question is this: is it possible to make my tablet, and others like mine, dual boot Android and Windows, if you could break the boot loader into installing it? I know you can dual boot Android and Windows on a PC and the Venue 8 pro, and a few other devices, including smart phones. The second part is would it be legal, with the purchase of a license key, to run it on this device? I don't see why it would be illegal, but ive never used a portable version of Windows, so I'm not sure.
What do you think, is it possible or a foolish man's dream?
I saw a few Intel Z8300 Cherry Trail tablets have factory dual boot Windows 10 and Android, so I bought one.
Turns out mine isn't dual boot, but Windows 10 only (my mistake)
However, these cheap (supposedly manufactured in Germany but features a "made in china" on the back) chinese tablets all seem to have pretty much the same specs.
And Cherry Trail processor are obviously able to run dual boots of windows and Android.
Do you think it could work out flashing Cube iWork10, Chuwi, or Telcast' tablets dual boot android image on this phone?
Another possible route could be flashing Android-x86, though this processor is supposedly x64. But it runs a regular Windows 10 x86.
Does this make any sense?
i think the same way.
i have a glx w11. there's many device similar it.
this is glx w11 details that shares by someone else:
http://hamid-eftekhari.ir/download/w11/Computer Report1.htm
http://hamid-eftekhari.ir/download/w11/sandra.pdf
Please help. I also have z8300.