ok viewsonic has 2 of these tablets that look exactly the same and same price, One runs android 2.2, the other one dual boots windows 7 home premium and android 1.6. this one also has a dual core intel atom 1.6 ghz processor, 1 gb ram and 16 gb storage.
http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_00382001000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1#specs
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7212231
Possible to flash the windows 7 one with newer version of android like 2.2 or higher? Already has 1.6 on it
First, Kmart's listing my be incorrect. I think it could just be a g-tablet mistakenly labled as the Viewsonic's dual boot device. Much like Sears had on their sight originally.
Second, I believe its a single core Intel Atom processor.
Thirdly, Officially Intel X86 processors don't support anything over Android 1.6. There is project by a group of developers that are working on getting 2.2 to run on X86 processors. I don't know much about the effort so you will have to do a search.
Lastly, realize that a tablet running on an intel processor will get much less battey life that one running on ARM processors.
That's about all I can tell you. Hope it helped some.
That ad is incorrect. The listing and price is for a G-Tablet, but the product description below is for the Viewpad 10, which sells for well over $500 and does run W7 and Android 1.6.
The G-Tablet is ARM, Viewpad is Atom (x86).
I don't think there is an easily usable x86-friendly ROM with 2.2 yet. Read all about it here:http://www.android-x86.org/
They are not the same; you should specially take a look at the processor.
Gtablet has a tegra 250 that give a great power with a low energy consumption(Nut it wont run windows until the drivers are written)
The other one has an atom processor. Good speed and power but has a bigger energy consumption(around 3 or 4 hours with a single charge if lucky) and is able to run windows.
I would highly recommend Tegra 250 tablet just because it gives a much better tablet experience and the opportunity to upgrade to honeycomb.
A friend of mine locally came across the same ad for K Mart. went down to the store saw the device, asked questions, then went to purchase. when they wanted to charge him 599.00 he (with a smile) pulled a copy of the ad from his pocket and exclaimed "that's not what the ad says". They honored the price for him and he is less than pleased. I was able to test drive it for 30 min, and did not like it one bit.
The dual boot slows it down way too much, touch interface is less than responsive.
We tried 2 times to get it to flash and was unsuccessful in doing so. He is considering taking it back for a refund and buying the 2.2 droid version from Office Depot.
So if you MUST have W7 on ur Tab for whatever reason...this is not the device you want. My suggestion would be to wait for the ASUS tabs running W7 when they are released. STAY away from the VS dual boot G Tab.
Just my 2 cents.
The upcoming Viewpad 10Pro will dual boot between Windows and Android 2.2 and you don't have to reboot to switch from one to the other.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/viewsonic-viewpad-10pro-hands-on/
I'm not a fan of the Atom processor. My netbook has one and its GPU is very weak. It struggles with flash files. That is why I went with the gTablet with the Tegra2 its a very strong processor. Now with all that said no I can't load windows 7 and will most likely never be able to because of the processor instructions (ARM) are not compatible with windows 7 maybe windows 8 down the road. With that said I am not willing to sacrifice performance just to load a weak windows 7. I understand of course that you might have needs for windows we all do but I will find work arounds.
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The upcoming Viewpad 10Pro will dual boot between Windows and Android 2.2 and you don't have to reboot to switch from one to the other.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/viewsonic-viewpad-10pro-hands-on/
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I don't believe it is a true dual boot as they even say that Android 2.2 is running via a virtualization.
Is it possible to get andriod running on native x86 architecture? If so how many of you guys would be willing to shell out cash to get a gaming system powered by google and steam?
Specs would likely be a tri core processor on the entry model, packed with 3 gb ddr, a 5770 gpu, and a low profile mod, wifi, 1tb hdd, 2 usb, fiber optical out, coaxial in, hdmi, bluetooth.
Just theoretically, if someone came out with a device like this, how much would you be willing to pay for it? It would have no screen, and would work in hd on tv, record video etc. Would you want to buy it at wll?
Also say if yiu will there are three builds of this device with similar specs, but more ram and a bettercpu for a higher pricepoint. Which model would you get, low end, mid end, or high end . Gpu remaine the same as to have a stable experience across the board.
Several people have already ported Android to x86 (such as here for example). APP_ABI := x86 is even one of the options you can put in your Application.mk when building an app.
Is there Android support of NDK to the x86 version of Android?
A new technology startup, Stella Mira, is entering the compact computing arena with their new device, the Pocket Console. Like many other flash drive sized mini computers we have seen lately, the Pocket Console features an Arm Allwinner A10 chip clocked at 1.5GHz, along with 1GB of Ram and Wi-Fi built on board. It also includes Bluetooth 2.1 connectivity, like the FXI Cotton Candy. And 8GB of flash storage, which is double that of the popular MK802 mini computer. Best of all it's priced at $129, which although being priced higher than the MK802, is still significantly cheaper than the Cotton Candy. The device also features 3 full sized USB 2.0 ports, 1 mini USB port, and a microSD card slot. And, of course, an HDMI port, enabling it to connect to practically any screen around. As far as software goes, the device runs Mira's customized version of android four dot zero, which is said to include a variety of popular apps preloaded such as spotify and angry birds along with support for the most popular game pads, and emulators are built right into it. Stella Mira has also announced that they will begin accepting pre orders in September for a 3G capable version of the Pocket Console. You can also buy a dock like accessory for your Pocket Console, unsurprisingly called the Pocket Dock which comes pre loaded with your favorite Linux distro (granted it can run on the Pocket Console). Stella Mira's website claims that they have built customized versions of both Lubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 12.04 that run "beautifully". Not much information is given of what these customized versions entail so that remains to be seen in the near future. I have reached out to Stella Mira and am awaiting more information on the Pocket Console and Pocket Dock. Until I hear back, the Pocket Console seems to be a really great contender in the mini pc market and for $129 I really don't think you could regret giving it a try, I know I certainly will.
Couple of corrections, it's not a 1.5 ghz a10 cpu it is actually a 1 ghz single core a8 cpu and mali 400 gpu. It is the board that is called an a10 as in allwinner a10.
The 1.5 ghz comes from people adding the gpu and cpu frequencies together. If you see the ebay page you will see this is how they arrive at that clock speed but it isn't actually that speed.
The 3G version is to be nearly $200 and even at $129 for basic four gig version with no extras this will be dearer than the next mk802 yet have the same specs.
Unless it sells for as good or better price than the next mk will do, the mira pc won't do as well not least because it only ships to usa and is dearer than similar spec products.
It isn't really offering anything new other than bluetooth (which new mk will apparently have) and the dock.
It is a nice design but as, when it begins shipping (and even then only to some who order early because others have to wait) there will be equally specced devices cheaper, it will need more than it has to create a lot of orders.
It certainly needs to be available in europe and start a little lower in price and to make more advertising advantage of its heatsink feature (if its promo pics are accurate it may have one).
Dave
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Yes, Get to know that the Android Mini PC factory will also released the 3G mini pc, and it will arm with dual core,the price not in public yet just wait and see...
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Your link doesn't show anything other than 3G modems. How does that pertain to the op's hdmi pc post?
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As an observation, The MK802 already does have bluetooth possibility. just not in the stock firmware. I am running lubuntu on mine, and bluetooth works just fine. And as others have already stated, all the allwinner a10 devices are really only 1.0ghz not 1.5. I don't see anything with this new device worth spending almost double the $68 my MK802 cost me.
There are already couple of dual boot - able operating systems (OS) tablets on the market especially the well-known Teclast tablets with their Air 3G, Air II, X10HD, X80h and I am sure they will update their entire range of tablets with Dual boot OS, perhaps the other chinese manufacturers, but that does not matter as Teclast is the very best chinese brand for tablets. (quality-wise)
In consequence, I have a couple questions/suggestions. I want to buy Teclast X80h over any other tablets because it is extremely cheap (119$), it is dual OS and it is high-quality as any other Teclast tablets (for such low price!).
1. Are there any bugs with the dual OS that come from the factory? Do I have to be aware of it in any way? There is also a single Windows 8.1 OS for 115$, so if it is a problem with the Dual-OS, then I can go for the simple version.
2. How's the experience with the Dual OS? Does both OS work flawless or is there sacrificed anything?
3. Can you single boot? For instance, if I want to run only Win8.1, can I just boot Win8.1 and if I want Android I just restart the tablet and choose Android?
4. How much space is left in the internal memory on a 32GB eMMC? (~approximately) - Just out of curiosity because I heard Teclast supports on Win8.1 microSD cards up to 128GB with no problem.
I know there are other threads especially on Air 3G tablet, but there are over 400 pages. I thought it would be easier to make a thread and those who had experience to share their opinion with us, those who are willing to buy Dual OS tablets.
For me, the Android version is not a must. I need the Windows mostly, but if there's a Dual OS version for 5$ more, why not get it. This is why I created the thread, so we the newbs get help. Any other discussion can be talked, I made this thread as a general discussion one, where people talk about ideas, tweaks, big deals, recommendations, ask for help etc
A very good tablet, but the system takes up more memory.
I want buy the Teclast x80h too. I'm waiting for the answers too!
I recently got the Teclast x98 Air II (without 3G, as I prefer to use my 4G mifi).
Overall, the build quality is excellent and the screen is very close to what you'd get on the iPad Air. The large 4:3 form factor also works better for tablets as I like surfing in portrait.
Dual boot works well, you just reboot and choose which OS you want to use. To switch, just shutdown and restart. The only thing I'd say is a problem will be the eMMC size of just 32gb. I have about 7gb free on each side of the system. You can partition a microSD with ext4 and use Link2SD on the android side, and move most things to the microSD on Windows. But if you use a lot of Windows Store apps, they can't be installed on removable media.
Performance is OK for most general tasks. Remember it's an Atom processor, so don't expect it to fly on 3D games. Not much of a gamer myself, so it doesn't matter much to me. I've thrown all sorts of videos at it and so far they all played pretty smoothly.
Teclast recently sorted out the Play Store bug with an update, so both sides of the system works as expected. I've experienced some freezes and thermal event message on Android, but they don't happen often and only when I was trying to play a 3D game.
I'd say get one with a larger screen if you plan on using Windows. The faster Z3736F processor on the X98 and X10HD can certainly be felt.
There is that Onda v891w that was released not so long ago for 25$ more than X80h. It is not Dual OS, it is only Windows 8.1, but it is a better alternative for X80h as far as specifications are concerned. I am more interested in Windows. In fact, I do not need the Android. I thought it was a bonus on X80h, but after all I wouldn't use it at all. Anyway, V891w has bigger 8.9" FULL HD IPS screen, the all the other specs are the same. But how reliable is Onda? I know that Teclast is a safe buy, but can anybody tell me about Onda's products? It is a relatively high-end tablet. Please owners of Onda provide some infos and experiences, problems etc
I've got my eye on the recently announced Onda V919 3G Air, it looks an exact copy of the teclast but with 64gb storage for about the same price. Their dual OS switching method looks a little more polished also... still I'll be waiting on reviews..
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There are already couple of dual boot - able operating systems (OS) tablets on the market especially the well-known Teclast tablets with their Air 3G, Air II, X10HD, X80h and I am sure they will update their entire range of tablets with Dual boot OS, perhaps the other chinese manufacturers, but that does not matter as Teclast is the very best chinese brand for tablets. (quality-wise)
In consequence, I have a couple questions/suggestions. I want to buy Teclast X80h over any other tablets because it is extremely cheap (119$), it is dual OS and it is high-quality as any other Teclast tablets (for such low price!).
1. Are there any bugs with the dual OS that come from the factory? Do I have to be aware of it in any way? There is also a single Windows 8.1 OS for 115$, so if it is a problem with the Dual-OS, then I can go for the simple version.
Reply on X98 Air 3G Dual: All major bugs were resolved with an OTA update on 20141225. The hardware issue still remains for some batches. System crash on playing GPU intensive 3D games. but this is not specific to Dual Boot models. It appears in all. There is n fix yet. But you may avoid this by buying it from Authorized seller on AliExpress. They confirmed that fresh batches don't have this issue.
2. How's the experience with the Dual OS? Does both OS work flawless or is there sacrificed anything?
Reply: It works great. Nothing is sacrificed except for the Disk space used by each OS.
3. Can you single boot? For instance, if I want to run only Win8.1, can I just boot Win8.1 and if I want Android I just restart the tablet and choose Android?
Reply: Yes, you can single boot. The information "switch with button at bottom" is not true because both OS runs separately never simultaneously.
4. How much space is left in the internal memory on a 32GB eMMC? (~approximately) - Just out of curiosity because I heard Teclast supports on Win8.1 microSD cards up to 128GB with no problem.
Reply: Check the attachments of this post.
I know there are other threads especially on Air 3G tablet, but there are over 400 pages. I thought it would be easier to make a thread and those who had experience to share their opinion with us, those who are willing to buy Dual OS tablets.
For me, the Android version is not a must. I need the Windows mostly, but if there's a Dual OS version for 5$ more, why not get it. This is why I created the thread, so we the newbs get help. Any other discussion can be talked, I made this thread as a general discussion one, where people talk about ideas, tweaks, big deals, recommendations, ask for help etc
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You may think that Android and 3G are not must, but soon you may have to change this opinion when you run into a situation like you are outside at a place with poor wifi or a special offer running on just Android apps !!
That's just my opinion.
The main drawback with dual OS is the storage space. So in that way, ONDA 919 Dual Boot is better, but we don't know how it fares in other areas. Like it has a 6000mAh battery which is sure to fail you.
The 9.7 inch models gives you an edge because they have Intel Z3736F which turbo boosts to 2.16 GHz.
smartchip said:
I recently got the Teclast x98 Air II.
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Hi,
Does the usb behave like on PC?
Can you plug USB powered hub and connect: Mouse, keyboard, usb printer , and all working ?
Tnx in advance.
brajomobil said:
Hi,
Does the usb behave like on PC?
Can you plug USB powered hub and connect: Mouse, keyboard, usb printer , and all working ?
Tnx in advance.
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YEs you can. Check videos on youtube. There are lots of them. You can charge it, use keyboard,mouse and whatever you want simultaneously with a OTG cable and a USB port hub. I recommend you a 3.0 one with at least 4 usb ports.
After reading many reviews, I think i'll be purchasing one aswell. I can live with the limited storage as I'd be mainly using it for office, reading, occasional movie watching and writing notes. If you are going to buy, MAKE SURE you buy it from the authorized seller as other sellers may have older models which contains the bugs and glitches. It may be a few dollars more expensive but is worth it to not have the troubles.
Aside from this, a question I want to ask is that is there any warranty at all for international buyers -- I'm in Canada.
There seems to be a misconception whether or not the X98 both 3g non 3g models have gps or not. Can anyone clarify this?
AfXv237 said:
YEs you can. Check videos on youtube. There are lots of them. You can charge it, use keyboard,mouse and whatever you want simultaneously with a OTG cable and a USB port hub. I recommend you a 3.0 one with at least 4 usb ports.
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Thank you very much. Do you know is it possible to install win8.1 x86 over UEFI. I have found only x64 tutorials. I need x86 windows.
brajomobil said:
Thank you very much. Do you know is it possible to install win8.1 x86 over UEFI. I have found only x64 tutorials. I need x86 windows.
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Can't really answer that. Ask the user Hendrickson. He's the master. He'll give you any info you want.
AfXv237 said:
Can't really answer that. Ask the user Hendrickson. He's the master. He'll give you any info you want.
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Thank you. I have spent 4 days searching the internet and fiddling with virtual machines and UEFI boot. And this is the conclusion !
You can't install or boot x86 vhd machine on x64 cpu with UEFI x64
With bios boot you can have x86 and x64 machines. Too bad this tablet don't have legacy boot
Hello people,
I'm interested in buying a CHEAP tablet that I would probably spend more time messing with it's OS than actually using it. That means good linux support is a top priority for me and good android support a seconds priority.
Of all the cheap tablets that support both android and linux (windows support is irrelevant for me) I've seen that the main difference is the SoC: Allwinner (usually A33) vs Intel Bay Trail (usually Z3735F).
My question is: Of those two, which one has the best support for linux and android on a tablet? All other factors are similar enough to not matter, so it boils down to just the SoC.
My impression is that the Atom has quite an advantage because it's GPU is well supported in linux, but I have the impression that most of other (specially power-saving related) stuff is better on allwinner, but I'm not really sure.
About android I know nothing, so any comments on what I should expect are welcome.
Thanks for any help!