I have an unrooted N1 with latest 2.3.4. Device is a year old and I believe my battery is getting tired. In spite of various battery life techniques and apps, many days it doesn't last through the day, and have it die at inopportune moments. I need to come up with a battery strategy. I googled on this and it's pretty inconclusive. I'm open to buying a direct replacement battery, an OEM flavor of some sort, an extended life battery, or one of the expensive 3200mh batteries that require a replacement cover.
I'm also open to rooting the device if that would allow me to regulate the battery better.
I'm looking for practical advice.
Im wondering this to if its the hardware of an htc or the android os that its lacking the optimized efficieny of the outcome which in fact derailing its competiton comparison to an iphones battery use. I was eagered to grasp an android phone when noticing a huge decline in web browsing or scrolling compared to my outdated ios as of now am missing its quality structure it had possesed.
i suggest getting the stock battery, or going with an aftermarket thru seido or mugen. yes there are cheaper knockoffs, but they dont always work well.
the link in my sig is a project we did for nexus one batterys where we were able to crack open the chip inside your batt and re-programm it for increased capacity.
this let us test every battery we could get our hands on. the cheap batterys have the chip inside that is "locked" and doesnt work right. the better batteries have the fully working chip.
inside the chip is a parameter called "age scalar" which counts down with each charge. after this gets down to 80% your battery is considered dead. if you root you can use the app to check your age etc and configure your batt. either way i would stick with the known brands.
Your have opinions on the Mugen Extended life battery (the one with the alternate back cover)? I would love to not have to think about my battery...
kendoori said:
Your have opinions on the Mugen Extended life battery (the one with the alternate back cover)? I would love to not have to think about my battery...
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yes my opinion is its a very good option. the 3400 mAh truly has the claimed capacity according to what we pulled from the chip in that one, plus the people using it experience the full capacity range. its worth the purchase if that's what you want, you cant go wrong.
A kind person @ HTC is hooking me with a replacement battery. It will be interesting to see how much better a fresh battery does in my device. After considering the various options of extending a charge, I've decided to be an external USB battery charger device from Trent (http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP500-External-Blackberry/dp/B0013G8PTS). Since I'm almost carrying some sort of bag, no issue stashing this device and carrying it with me for those times when I need extra juice. I will report on performance of that device.
If you are open to rooting, many times a custom ROM and kernel can provide you with significant battery improvements.
In the nightly threads for CyanogenMod (nightlies are test builds and CyanogenMod is one of the more popular 3rd-party ROMs), people have said that with the latest nightlies and a custom kernel by RedStar, they are getting less than 1% per hour battery drain when the phone is idle.
My phone running the nightlies (although the stock kernel that comes with CM), I consistently get between 18-20 hours of use unless I do some crazy battery intensive things. If I hardly use the phone at all, I can easily get two days out of the battery (although I don't do this much). And this is with my battery age at 82% (it is getting close to the official "dead" part).
Plus there are a lot of cool features that are in some custom ROMs.
bassmadrigal said:
If you are open to rooting, many times a custom ROM and kernel can provide you with significant battery improvements.
In the nightly threads for CyanogenMod (nightlies are test builds and CyanogenMod is one of the more popular 3rd-party ROMs), people have said that with the latest nightlies and a custom kernel by RedStar, they are getting less than 1% per hour battery drain when the phone is idle.
My phone running the nightlies (although the stock kernel that comes with CM), I consistently get between 18-20 hours of use unless I do some crazy battery intensive things. If I hardly use the phone at all, I can easily get two days out of the battery (although I don't do this much). And this is with my battery age at 82% (it is getting close to the official "dead" part).
Plus there are a lot of cool features that are in some custom ROMs.
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for sure. i'm even seeing better than that, i get 1% drop every 3 hours a lot of the time on the recent nightly from cyanogen.
kendoori said:
A kind person @ HTC is hooking me with a replacement battery. It will be interesting to see how much better a fresh battery does in my device. After considering the various options of extending a charge, I've decided to be an external USB battery charger device from Trent (http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP500-External-Blackberry/dp/B0013G8PTS). Since I'm almost carrying some sort of bag, no issue stashing this device and carrying it with me for those times when I need extra juice. I will report on performance of that device.
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Did you call HTC? if so what number did you call? I need a new battery as well and have heard that the oem ones are the best bet.
@chrisonline1991 Called main HTC #s list here: http://www.htc.com/www/support/nexusone/ If you are under warranty, they will likely send you a new battery. I am out of warranty....calling them led to a dead end.
Check out this thread: http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-accessories/12295-need-lowdown-battery-replacement.html
bassmadrigal said:
If you are open to rooting, many times a custom ROM and kernel can provide you with significant battery improvements.
In the nightly threads for CyanogenMod (nightlies are test builds and CyanogenMod is one of the more popular 3rd-party ROMs), people have said that with the latest nightlies and a custom kernel by RedStar, they are getting less than 1% per hour battery drain when the phone is idle.
My phone running the nightlies (although the stock kernel that comes with CM), I consistently get between 18-20 hours of use unless I do some crazy battery intensive things. If I hardly use the phone at all, I can easily get two days out of the battery (although I don't do this much). And this is with my battery age at 82% (it is getting close to the official "dead" part).
Plus there are a lot of cool features that are in some custom ROMs.
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Curious, where do you get battery age from? Is that part of CM7 or a stat in Android I've missed somewhere?
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khaytsus said:
Curious, where do you get battery age from? Is that part of CM7 or a stat in Android I've missed somewhere?
Thanks
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No, not part of CM7 or Android. It is an app that was created only for the N1's.
Thread about it is here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765609
khaytsus said:
Curious, where do you get battery age from? Is that part of CM7 or a stat in Android I've missed somewhere?
Thanks
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The age is read from the chip inside your specific battery and our app can pull that value.
Be sure to get a real OEM battery or one from a trusted manufacturer. I got a battery on eBay that was sold as OEM and looks like OEM but the chip did not work and the battery life was terrible. I'm not sure what the chip does but I can confirm that having a working one is required to get good battery life. My new battery with broken chip was giving about 8-10 hours of battery life before hitting the 15% warning. My over 1 year old battery with working chip lasts 16+ hours with room to spare.
I recently started testing ch33ybutt's SS4N1 script. I am running the default settings and yesterday after 19 hours i still had 34% remaining when I hooked up the charger before bed.
I use my phone with auto-brightness, bluetooth on, GPS on, and 3G enabled. I turn on/off WiFi as desired but don't leave it on all the time since I'm really only around a hotspot at home. I am definitely not playing around with settings to save battery. Which is great because I don't want to have to mess with that or always be on the look-out for a charger.
Also a subject I haven't mastered yet. But I do know ebay is a very misleading source when it comes to batteries
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Does anyone know if i get one of those extended life batteries that i am hearing so much about and i was wondering.... If the system is set to read the stock batterys stats then is there anything different that i have to do once i put one of those higher powered batteries in the phone? Do i just have to calibrate it? i want to get one for the extra life but not at the expense of having stats that are way off. thanks in advance!
I havent seen any yet but If your looking for ways to zave battery just hold the lock button and turn off mobile connection
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Not being rude but there are literally hundreds of posts like this. For this phone alone there are about 4 or 5 threads. No need to start another one. Please just post in an existing thread about extended batteries.
Look up Powerskin for your phone as well.
I'm waiting for a new phone to arrive and I may sell my Thunderbolt so.... I un-rooted and installed the stock ROM and let it update.
Really ODD results:
I'm getting the best battery life I've EVER had with any ROM. I've run several ICS ROMs and they all had the usual poor battery life but I've also run several GB sense, de-sensed and no-sense ROMs, all with poorer battery life than I have now, go figure?????
If it wasn't for the HUGE amount of useless crap VZW puts on a phone I'd probably have been happy w/o rooting the T'bolt...
I'd like to thank all the devs for the very good ROMs I've used, I'm hoping to see some of you over in the Samsung Galaxy SIII forum as I know I'll have to de-bloat the critter when it arrives.
NOTE: I ran my T'bolt almost two full days before I rooted it, I wonder if I can beat that record with the SIII?
I think your s3 is going to get about the same battery life as the bolt. I've used my niece's s3 quite a bit and it seems to lose battery almost as fast as my bolt does. Either way I don't think it's going to be much better.
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I plan on doing the same as I do with the T'Bolt. Get a charging dock with a place for a spare battery and switch batteries around 5 - 6 PM each day.
However, if the SIII give the same battery life as the T'bolt does now with the stock ROM I'll not need to do that, I turned on at 7 AM Tuesday morning and had 40% battery at 10:30 PM. It's NEVER done more than 12 hours with any other ROM, wondering if the last VZW update had something to help battery life? Who knows....
OK, days later plus one trip of several days and.... the battery life on the S3 is a little better than the T'Bolt. I'm getting a low battery warning maybe once a week or so. I usually take it off the charger at 7AM and hit the sack around 11PM, only VERY unusual use will trigger the low battery warning, otherwise I go to bed with maybe 25% remaining.
I consider it adequate, I'd like better but....
I went back to my GS3, can't seem to find a current phone that suits me right now. I had planned on preordering the S6, but I want to wait it out.
I depend on my GS3 as my daily phone and need a ROM suggestion on 4.4.2 (NE1) that's as smooth and lag-free as possible, good on battery life is also a plus.
And speaking of battery, I was either going to get a battery case like the Mophie or go with an extended battery, nothing huge like 7200 mAh.
Any suggestions on these?
triton302 said:
I went back to my GS3, can't seem to find a current phone that suits me right now. I had planned on preordering the S6, but I want to wait it out.
I depend on my GS3 as my daily phone and need a ROM suggestion on 4.4.2 (NE1) that's as smooth and lag-free as possible, good on battery life is also a plus.
And speaking of battery, I was either going to get a battery case like the Mophie or go with an extended battery, nothing huge like 7200 mAh.
Any suggestions on these?
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There are only a few roms on the locked bootloader of 4.4.2 NE1. I couldn't tell you if they are battery friendly or not
I was going to suggest slimkat but seeing how your on the locked bootloader you don't have the option of flashing custom roms
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i just got a used one and battery life is probably the mos important thing. the stock rom performs fast enough but battery life is lacking, migh need a replacement idk but yeah any have a rom suggestion