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I have an unrooted N1 with latest 2.3.4. Device is a year old and I believe my battery is getting tired. In spite of various battery life techniques and apps, many days it doesn't last through the day, and have it die at inopportune moments. I need to come up with a battery strategy. I googled on this and it's pretty inconclusive. I'm open to buying a direct replacement battery, an OEM flavor of some sort, an extended life battery, or one of the expensive 3200mh batteries that require a replacement cover.
I'm also open to rooting the device if that would allow me to regulate the battery better.
I'm looking for practical advice.
Im wondering this to if its the hardware of an htc or the android os that its lacking the optimized efficieny of the outcome which in fact derailing its competiton comparison to an iphones battery use. I was eagered to grasp an android phone when noticing a huge decline in web browsing or scrolling compared to my outdated ios as of now am missing its quality structure it had possesed.
i suggest getting the stock battery, or going with an aftermarket thru seido or mugen. yes there are cheaper knockoffs, but they dont always work well.
the link in my sig is a project we did for nexus one batterys where we were able to crack open the chip inside your batt and re-programm it for increased capacity.
this let us test every battery we could get our hands on. the cheap batterys have the chip inside that is "locked" and doesnt work right. the better batteries have the fully working chip.
inside the chip is a parameter called "age scalar" which counts down with each charge. after this gets down to 80% your battery is considered dead. if you root you can use the app to check your age etc and configure your batt. either way i would stick with the known brands.
Your have opinions on the Mugen Extended life battery (the one with the alternate back cover)? I would love to not have to think about my battery...
kendoori said:
Your have opinions on the Mugen Extended life battery (the one with the alternate back cover)? I would love to not have to think about my battery...
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yes my opinion is its a very good option. the 3400 mAh truly has the claimed capacity according to what we pulled from the chip in that one, plus the people using it experience the full capacity range. its worth the purchase if that's what you want, you cant go wrong.
A kind person @ HTC is hooking me with a replacement battery. It will be interesting to see how much better a fresh battery does in my device. After considering the various options of extending a charge, I've decided to be an external USB battery charger device from Trent (http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP500-External-Blackberry/dp/B0013G8PTS). Since I'm almost carrying some sort of bag, no issue stashing this device and carrying it with me for those times when I need extra juice. I will report on performance of that device.
If you are open to rooting, many times a custom ROM and kernel can provide you with significant battery improvements.
In the nightly threads for CyanogenMod (nightlies are test builds and CyanogenMod is one of the more popular 3rd-party ROMs), people have said that with the latest nightlies and a custom kernel by RedStar, they are getting less than 1% per hour battery drain when the phone is idle.
My phone running the nightlies (although the stock kernel that comes with CM), I consistently get between 18-20 hours of use unless I do some crazy battery intensive things. If I hardly use the phone at all, I can easily get two days out of the battery (although I don't do this much). And this is with my battery age at 82% (it is getting close to the official "dead" part).
Plus there are a lot of cool features that are in some custom ROMs.
bassmadrigal said:
If you are open to rooting, many times a custom ROM and kernel can provide you with significant battery improvements.
In the nightly threads for CyanogenMod (nightlies are test builds and CyanogenMod is one of the more popular 3rd-party ROMs), people have said that with the latest nightlies and a custom kernel by RedStar, they are getting less than 1% per hour battery drain when the phone is idle.
My phone running the nightlies (although the stock kernel that comes with CM), I consistently get between 18-20 hours of use unless I do some crazy battery intensive things. If I hardly use the phone at all, I can easily get two days out of the battery (although I don't do this much). And this is with my battery age at 82% (it is getting close to the official "dead" part).
Plus there are a lot of cool features that are in some custom ROMs.
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for sure. i'm even seeing better than that, i get 1% drop every 3 hours a lot of the time on the recent nightly from cyanogen.
kendoori said:
A kind person @ HTC is hooking me with a replacement battery. It will be interesting to see how much better a fresh battery does in my device. After considering the various options of extending a charge, I've decided to be an external USB battery charger device from Trent (http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP500-External-Blackberry/dp/B0013G8PTS). Since I'm almost carrying some sort of bag, no issue stashing this device and carrying it with me for those times when I need extra juice. I will report on performance of that device.
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Did you call HTC? if so what number did you call? I need a new battery as well and have heard that the oem ones are the best bet.
@chrisonline1991 Called main HTC #s list here: http://www.htc.com/www/support/nexusone/ If you are under warranty, they will likely send you a new battery. I am out of warranty....calling them led to a dead end.
Check out this thread: http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-accessories/12295-need-lowdown-battery-replacement.html
bassmadrigal said:
If you are open to rooting, many times a custom ROM and kernel can provide you with significant battery improvements.
In the nightly threads for CyanogenMod (nightlies are test builds and CyanogenMod is one of the more popular 3rd-party ROMs), people have said that with the latest nightlies and a custom kernel by RedStar, they are getting less than 1% per hour battery drain when the phone is idle.
My phone running the nightlies (although the stock kernel that comes with CM), I consistently get between 18-20 hours of use unless I do some crazy battery intensive things. If I hardly use the phone at all, I can easily get two days out of the battery (although I don't do this much). And this is with my battery age at 82% (it is getting close to the official "dead" part).
Plus there are a lot of cool features that are in some custom ROMs.
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Curious, where do you get battery age from? Is that part of CM7 or a stat in Android I've missed somewhere?
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khaytsus said:
Curious, where do you get battery age from? Is that part of CM7 or a stat in Android I've missed somewhere?
Thanks
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No, not part of CM7 or Android. It is an app that was created only for the N1's.
Thread about it is here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765609
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Curious, where do you get battery age from? Is that part of CM7 or a stat in Android I've missed somewhere?
Thanks
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The age is read from the chip inside your specific battery and our app can pull that value.
Be sure to get a real OEM battery or one from a trusted manufacturer. I got a battery on eBay that was sold as OEM and looks like OEM but the chip did not work and the battery life was terrible. I'm not sure what the chip does but I can confirm that having a working one is required to get good battery life. My new battery with broken chip was giving about 8-10 hours of battery life before hitting the 15% warning. My over 1 year old battery with working chip lasts 16+ hours with room to spare.
I recently started testing ch33ybutt's SS4N1 script. I am running the default settings and yesterday after 19 hours i still had 34% remaining when I hooked up the charger before bed.
I use my phone with auto-brightness, bluetooth on, GPS on, and 3G enabled. I turn on/off WiFi as desired but don't leave it on all the time since I'm really only around a hotspot at home. I am definitely not playing around with settings to save battery. Which is great because I don't want to have to mess with that or always be on the look-out for a charger.
Also a subject I haven't mastered yet. But I do know ebay is a very misleading source when it comes to batteries
Sent from my Nexus One
Greetings fellow XDA members and Verizon GS3 owners...
I'm creating this thread to create a user review/opinion on what setups are giving the best battery life / performance. It would be appreciated if we can keep this as clean as possible to make it easier for newer members to review and try different setups to get the most out of their device. With that said, this is solely based on our opinions. As we all know different setups vary per user, so just because my setup for example gives me great battery life, it does not mean it surely will for you. Results may vary!!
If your interested in posting your setup, please post in the following format :
ROM:
ROM Build Date / Release Ver:
Kernel / Kernel Ver:
Baseband:
Average Signal Strength:
Additional Tweaks:
(UV / OC / ETC)
Stock or Extended Battery:
-Optional-
Recovery:
(Doesn't effect what we want to discuss, but can be for good measure)
Results: (Insert battery life vs screen on time here)
So let me begin...
ROM: Synergy (TW)
ROM Build Date / Release Ver: R73
Kernel / Kernel Ver: Lean Kernel 1.2
Baseband: VRLHE
Average Signal Strength: -89 dBm / 51 asu
Additional Tweaks: No additional Tweaks as of now..
Stock or Extended Battery : Stock
(Optional)
Recovery: TWRP 2.2.0
Results: I am usually averaging about 15-16 hours with close to 4 hours of screen on time. I couldn't be happier with my battery life running the stock battery. I'm usually just happy to make it thru the day without having to carry my charger on me.
As far as performance, I couldn't be happier on R73. It runs very smooth and lag is practically non existent for me.
Samsung Galaxy S3
You may want to have people post their average connection. It seems to make a very big difference in battery life. I have poor signal here in Gainesville, FL so my battery does not last as long as someone else with the same setup in a better area may.
Zalithian said:
You may want to have people post their average connection. It seems to make a very big difference in battery life. I have poor signal here in Gainesville, FL so my battery does not last as long as someone else with the same setup in a better area may.
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Very true, thanks for the input. I'll add to OP.
Samsung Galaxy S3
ROM: AOKP unofficial 10-13-12 Phantom build
ROM Build Date / Release Ver: 10-13-12
Kernel / Kernel Ver: CyanogenMod Faux 3.0.45
Baseband: VRLHE
Average Signal Strength: -105 dBm 35 asu
Additional Tweaks: None
Stock or Extended Battery: Stock
-Optional-
Recovery: CWM Touch 6.0.1.2
Results: Good, not the best but I do touch my phone a lot and do some tethering.
Getting a bit tired of AOSP looks so gonna revert back to Synergy once the new ones are up.
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I'm running stock.
A screenshot would be good also.
Being on WiFi makes a dramatic difference oppose to 4G. Good signal gives you a longer battery life.
Synergy R73 + Lean kernel 1.1 (didnt know 1.2 was even out)
Insane battery life. Ive also gotten over 30+ hours with 3+ hours of screen on time as well. This phone is really amazing.
Upgraded to Synergy R77 last night. Battery life is still amazing.
Samsung Galaxy S3
Running stock right now. No root or custom rom installed.
I'm on Wi-Fi often and I turn off mobile data to stay under my data cap. I turn it on when I need internet and not in range for Wi-Fi. It's a bonus that being on Wi-Fi helps to consume battery life
I've had this phone since Tuesday and so far my experience has been good. I came from the Razr Maxx but I knew not to expect the same type of battery life. 3,300 mAh down to 2,100 mAh big difference but I am still impressed by the GS3.
After first charge I checked it last at 20% battery, screen on time was over 5 hours.
After second charge 5% battery, a little over 4 hours of screen on time
Last night I checked it at 40% battery, screen on time was over 4 hours.
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I'm on Wi-Fi often and I turn off mobile data to stay under my data cap. I turn it on when I need internet and not in range for Wi-Fi. It's a bonus that being on Wi-Fi helps to consume battery life
I've had this phone since Tuesday and so far my experience has been good. I came from the Razr Maxx but I knew not to expect the same type of battery life. 3,300 mAh down to 2,100 mAh big difference but I am still impressed by the GS3.
After first charge I checked it last at 20% battery, screen on time was over 5 hours.
After second charge 5% battery, a little over 4 hours of screen on time
Last night I checked it at 40% battery, screen on time was over 4 hours.
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Yeah, letting the ROM your running settle in also makes a huge difference. I came from a Rezound, which is a great device, but I pull way more battery life off of the stock battery then I did with the Rezounds extended battery.
Samsung Galaxy S3
luis86dr said:
Yeah, letting the ROM your running settle in also makes a huge difference. I came from a Rezound, which is a great device, but I pull way more battery life off of the stock battery then I did with the Rezounds extended battery.
Samsung Galaxy S3
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Is it worth looking into extended batteries for the GS3? I never used extended batteries before so I don't know the quality of them and how long they'll last. Do they tend to crap out easier than a stock battery or are they pretty good at doing their job?
Thank Me Later said:
Is it worth looking into extended batteries for the GS3? I never used extended batteries before so I don't know the quality of them and how long they'll last. Do they tend to crap out easier than a stock battery or are they pretty good at doing their job?
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Its personal preference. My gs3 can last me 24hours with 3-4 hours of screen on time on the stock battery. I don't see a need for a bulkier battery in my case.
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ROM: CleanROM 2.5
ROM Build Date / Release Ver: 2.5
Kernel / Kernel Ver: CleanKernel
Baseband: VRLG1
Average Signal Strength:
Additional Tweaks: GWallet
Stock or Extended Battery: Stock
-Optional-
Recovery: CWM
Results: Very happy with battery life, without bloatware battery life felt about 20% better. Can go all day on a charge with moderate to high usage. If I seem to be running short on juice I just turn on power saving. I think I hit 10 hours on screen time one day.
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Is it worth looking into extended batteries for the GS3? I never used extended batteries before so I don't know the quality of them and how long they'll last. Do they tend to crap out easier than a stock battery or are they pretty good at doing their job?
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I can tell you the Hyperion 4000+ battery is absolutely amazing. I bought the G3 on a pre-order & have used the Hyperion battery every day from day one.
I do a ton of online audio streaming (iheart Radio, Sirius online etc etc) which kills a battery faster than anything else. I also use my Slingbox occasionally which is also a battery killer.
I leave GPS on at all times, have 4 email accounts on push & have my weather updating every 15 minutes. I never use WiFi & have 4G most of the time. In other words, I do the exact opposite of every battery saving tip ever posted....
With the Hyperion battery, I have never even come close to killing the battery in one day (I charge it every night)
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I can tell you the Hyperion 4000+ battery is absolutely amazing. I bought the G3 on a pre-order & have used the Hyperion battery every day from day one.
I do a ton of online audio streaming (iheart Radio, Sirius online etc etc) which kills a battery faster than anything else. I also use my Slingbox occasionally which is also a battery killer.
I leave GPS on at all times, have 4 email accounts on push & have my weather updating every 15 minutes. I never use WiFi & have 4G most of the time. In other words, I do the exact opposite of every battery saving tip ever posted....
With the Hyperion battery, I have never even come close to killing the battery in one day (I charge it every night)
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It's mandatory I have a good case and not some thin soft gel one. I know extended batteries come with new backs due to thickness, are there decent cases for people rocking extended batteries?
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It's mandatory I have a good case and not some thin soft gel one. I know extended batteries come with new backs due to thickness, are there decent cases for people rocking extended batteries?
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This case matches the battery setup, it is not the heaviest case ever made but provides basic protection:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470939031&pf_rd_i=507846
Isn't the NFC function built in to the battery?
Nexus replaced with GS3 by Verizon. Remorseful
My GS3 just will not sleep. Stock, rooted w/clockwork. Yeah, I delete the standard stuff that I've deleted for years across loads of android devices but this is very, very annoying. Always warm and battery life is horrendous. Any input on this? I'd also like a barebones, pure google rom for it as well. Thanks!
I'm waiting for a new phone to arrive and I may sell my Thunderbolt so.... I un-rooted and installed the stock ROM and let it update.
Really ODD results:
I'm getting the best battery life I've EVER had with any ROM. I've run several ICS ROMs and they all had the usual poor battery life but I've also run several GB sense, de-sensed and no-sense ROMs, all with poorer battery life than I have now, go figure?????
If it wasn't for the HUGE amount of useless crap VZW puts on a phone I'd probably have been happy w/o rooting the T'bolt...
I'd like to thank all the devs for the very good ROMs I've used, I'm hoping to see some of you over in the Samsung Galaxy SIII forum as I know I'll have to de-bloat the critter when it arrives.
NOTE: I ran my T'bolt almost two full days before I rooted it, I wonder if I can beat that record with the SIII?
I think your s3 is going to get about the same battery life as the bolt. I've used my niece's s3 quite a bit and it seems to lose battery almost as fast as my bolt does. Either way I don't think it's going to be much better.
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I plan on doing the same as I do with the T'Bolt. Get a charging dock with a place for a spare battery and switch batteries around 5 - 6 PM each day.
However, if the SIII give the same battery life as the T'bolt does now with the stock ROM I'll not need to do that, I turned on at 7 AM Tuesday morning and had 40% battery at 10:30 PM. It's NEVER done more than 12 hours with any other ROM, wondering if the last VZW update had something to help battery life? Who knows....
OK, days later plus one trip of several days and.... the battery life on the S3 is a little better than the T'Bolt. I'm getting a low battery warning maybe once a week or so. I usually take it off the charger at 7AM and hit the sack around 11PM, only VERY unusual use will trigger the low battery warning, otherwise I go to bed with maybe 25% remaining.
I consider it adequate, I'd like better but....
Preferably on the lower side of that sum - I'd prefer to spend 40-50 euros, 60 is only if the deal is really good. I also don't mind buying a used phone with virtually invisible crack or a couple of cracks on the screen that wouldn't interfere with functionality in any way.
Currently I had ASUS Zenfone 5, which I find okay in terms of performance (I need something at least as powerful), although the battery life was horrible (I bought it used so that might have been the problem). Having said that, I want my battery life to be as long as possible - those are the only two criteria. I will be installing a custom rom from this site of Android 6 (or is there Android 7 already?).
Please ask any questions if needed.
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I'm not sure but if you want to use a custom 6.0 rom (and you know that off the bat), I'd look through the forums. I'm not sure if all phones have had custom roms made, so the phone you do decide to get would be dependent on if a rom you'd like to use is available. Battery life is also dependent on the rom/features within that version of a rom and how you use your phone. So, somebody could recommend a phone because of how their battery life is but yours may be completely different. I had a MotoG 2013 for quite a few years (just "upgraded" to a Samsung S4 a couple months ago). I know I was getting about 1.5-2 days from the MotoG 2013 as far as battery life goes, running a custom 6.0.1 rom. I miss that phone because I'm only getting (at best) 12 hours battery life with my Samsung S4 - usage is exactly the same on both phones.
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I'm not sure but if you want to use a custom 6.0 rom (and you know that off the bat), I'd look through the forums. I'm not sure if all phones have had custom roms made, so the phone you do decide to get would be dependent on if a rom you'd like to use is available. Battery life is also dependent on the rom/features within that version of a rom and how you use your phone. So, somebody could recommend a phone because of how their battery life is but yours may be completely different. I had a MotoG 2013 for quite a few years (just "upgraded" to a Samsung S4 a couple months ago). I know I was getting about 1.5-2 days from the MotoG 2013 as far as battery life goes, running a custom 6.0.1 rom. I miss that phone because I'm only getting (at best) 12 hours battery life with my Samsung S4 - usage is exactly the same on both phones.
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Well, the phones that don't have such ports are probably too old in terms of performance anyway. But there is of course a general idea of battery life, and the conditions would be web browsing (mostly).
phonebuyguy said:
Preferably on the lower side of that sum - I'd prefer to spend 40-50 euros, 60 is only if the deal is really good. I also don't mind buying a used phone with virtually invisible crack or a couple of cracks on the screen that wouldn't interfere with functionality in any way.
Currently I had ASUS Zenfone 5, which I find okay in terms of performance (I need something at least as powerful), although the battery life was horrible (I bought it used so that might have been the problem). Having said that, I want my battery life to be as long as possible - those are the only two criteria. I will be installing a custom rom from this site of Android 6 (or is there Android 7 already?).
Please ask any questions if needed.
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Take a look here:
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/20/best-budget-android-smartphones-under-200/
Thread closed, we already have a thread for this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
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My Nexus 5 is more than 3 years old, and I think its planned obsolescence is kicking in.
Its battery life right now is about 3 hours, less with intensive use. I've tried buying a new battery, and even tried it with a fresh stock rom, no apps installed, with similar results. It makes sense to it draining so much battery regardless of the conditions? (I won't post GSam screenshots, since the same happens in these different scenarios).
I mean, I LOVE my phone, I can't think of a worthy replacement for good old Nexus 5... but I can't go on with 3 hours of battery life. Has this happened to any of you? What should I do?
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My Nexus 5 is more than 3 years old, and I think its planned obsolescence is kicking in.
Its battery life right now is about 3 hours, less with intensive use. I've tried buying a new battery, and even tried it with a fresh stock rom, no apps installed, with similar results. It makes sense to it draining so much battery regardless of the conditions? (I won't post GSam screenshots, since the same happens in these different scenarios).
I mean, I LOVE my phone, I can't think of a worthy replacement for good old Nexus 5... but I can't go on with 3 hours of battery life. Has this happened to any of you? What should I do?
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I'm sorry to hear this! I just went through HELL and back to get my nexus 5 back working.. (replaced LCD/Digitizer, USB flex cable, Battery, installed chroot and adb/fastboot on chromebook to flash TWRP and root)
It's an AWESOME device. I would suggest getting a decent battery replacement and look at battery management apps or maybe a battery case? If my phone could be used on Verizon, I'd swap out my Galaxy S6 for the Nexus 5 in a heartbeat..
Best of luck!
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I'm sorry to hear this! I just went through HELL and back to get my nexus 5 back working.. (replaced LCD/Digitizer, USB flex cable, Battery, installed chroot and adb/fastboot on chromebook to flash TWRP and root)
It's an AWESOME device. I would suggest getting a decent battery replacement and look at battery management apps or maybe a battery case? If my phone could be used on Verizon, I'd swap out my Galaxy S6 for the Nexus 5 in a heartbeat..
Best of luck!
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I've in fact searched for battery cases, and good battery replacements, but being it a discontinued device is kinda hard (almost impossible). I've bought a battery claiming to be "official", still very bad results. For the case, the only battery case I've found available is this one, and it's a bad chinese battery: https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...r-Case-Free-Shipping/1267012_32683454756.html
Besides, I'm from Spain, so any usa store probably won't send to my country.
Any recommendations with this are appreciated!
walawalabinbon said:
I've in fact searched for battery cases, and good battery replacements, but being it a discontinued device is kinda hard (almost impossible). I've bought a battery claiming to be "official", still very bad results. For the case, the only battery case I've found available is this one, and it's a bad chinese battery: https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...r-Case-Free-Shipping/1267012_32683454756.html
Besides, I'm from Spain, so any usa store probably won't send to my country.
Any recommendations with this are appreciated!
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Some of us have bought a battery replacement in RepuestosFuentes. Here's the direct link. They run out of stock from time to time.
As I said, mine is from there and it's working fine. Also, it has a recent manufacture date printed on it.
I still love my Nexus 5. Recently I paid around $13 to get the battery replaced at LG Service Center here in Bangalore, India and now the phone is back and running. Installed AOSP 7.1.1 and it's running as smooth as 6.0.
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Some of us have bought a battery replacement in RepuestosFuentes. Here's the direct link. They run out of stock from time to time.
As I said, mine is from there and it's working fine. Also, it has a recent manufacture date printed on it.
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Actually, I'm not so sure a new battery would make things a lot better. Thing is, any battery attached to my phone just drains extremely fast (maybe some hardware issue?), so... replacing a new internal battery can make things better, but not much, since it's a internal battery.
The ideal solution would be a good battery case, so I can add that to its normal battery. But, as I said, I didn't find one that seems trustworthy for sale right now.