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High Refresh Rate Mod

I just saw an article that mentioned a mod for the Xiaomi MI 9 that allegedly unlocks a higher refresh rate for the display (84 Hz). So naturally I was wondering, is there a way to do something similar with the XZ3? The displays have pretty much the same specs.

TunerCP said:
I just saw an article that mentioned a mod for the Xiaomi MI 9 that allegedly unlocks a higher refresh rate for the display (84 Hz). So naturally I was wondering, is there a way to do something similar with the XZ3? The displays have pretty much the same specs.
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If i remember correctly all SODP supported xperias have a 120hz display running in 60hz (?) on stock and sodp.
I don't know if all of these have the hardware power to support it, but there are people working in it at the sodp project, so sodp based custom ROMs can support it.
But please don't ask for an ETA
the stock firmware is a different story I can't answer.

MartinX3 said:
If i remember correctly all SODP supported xperias have a 120hz display running in 60hz (?) on stock and sodp.
I don't know if all of these have the hardware power to support it, but there are people working in it at the sodp project, so sodp based custom ROMs can support it.
But please don't ask for an ETA
the stock firmware is a different story I can't answer.
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That's great news then, thanks! And I would never ask for an ETA

XZ3 is probably different from the Xperias preceding it as it has an OLED screen. The 120Hz Xperias have an LCD screen.

mufunyo said:
XZ3 is probably different from the Xperias preceding it as it has an OLED screen. The 120Hz Xperias have an LCD screen.
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The Xperia 1 has a 120 Hz display as well (confirmed), and it's OLED.

TunerCP said:
The Xperia 1 has a 120 Hz display well (confirmed), and it's OLED.
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Yeah, I don't remember that the xz3 has no 120hz display.
It should have one too.

MartinX3 said:
Yeah, I don't remember that the xz3 has no 120hz display.
It should have one too.
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Oh, sweet. I'll keep an eye on this then.

overclocking the screen

I really want the S pen from the note but I really like the 7 pro for the 90hz screen.
is there any way to overclock the note 10 display higher? even its its just to like 75hz that is fine.
preferably without having to root

Nope

sakshamgoyal01 said:
I really want the S pen from the note but I really like the 7 pro for the 90hz screen.
is there any way to overclock the note 10 display higher? even its its just to like 75hz that is fine.
preferably without having to root
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Not gonna happen. Not sure why Samsung didn't include a 90hz screen, since they make the screen 90hz for OP, and the upcoming pixel 4.

suzook said:
Not gonna happen. Not sure why Samsung didn't include a 90hz screen, since they make the screen 90hz for OP, and the upcoming pixel 4.
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Brightness, overall image quality, battery life. These appear to be the main reasons. Yeah the OP7 Pro has a higher refresh rate but don't be fooled, it's nowhere near as good as far as image quality and brightness. I guess it's up to personal preference.

-Ric- said:
Brightness, overall image quality, battery life. These appear to be the main reasons. Yeah the OP7 Pro has a higher refresh rate but don't be fooled, it's nowhere near as good as far as image quality and brightness. I guess it's up to personal preference.
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I have both. Brightness? OP7pro is BRIGHTER than n10. Battery? Nope, I lost about 2% batt with 90hz on, not really a battery killer. Lol. People need to stop with the bs.

suzook said:
I have both. Brightness? OP7pro is BRIGHTER than n10. Battery? Nope, I lost about 2% batt with 90hz on, not really a battery killer. Lol. People need to stop with the bs.
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Considering the OnePlus 7 Pro's display brightness spec is supposed to max out at around 820 nits while the note 10+ can reach 1300... you either got a special phone that no one has seen or you're full of crap.

-Ric- said:
Considering the OnePlus 7 Pro's display brightness spec is supposed to max out at around 820 nits while the note 10+ can reach 1300... you either got a special phone that no one has seen or you're full of crap.
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Or I got a POS note10plus, because my OP7pro gets brighter. But who the f needs 1300 nits?

suzook said:
Or I got a POS note10plus, because my OP7pro gets brighter. But who the f needs 1300 nits?
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People that leave their home and walk under that incredibly bright thing that we call "sun".

NBA: Realme 5 Pro or Redmi Note 8 Pro

Hi all,
I am thinking of buying a new Smartphone. In my country Realme 5 Pro 8GB/128GB and Redmi Note 8 Pro 6GB/128GB are similarly priced. I am really really confused between these two.
Which one should I pick?
You expert opinions are required.
Thanks in advance.

No-one yet?
I am more inclined towards Realme 5 Pro basically due to SD712, Sony Camera Sensor and 8GB Ram Variant.
Currently I am using Realme 3. I don't like Color OS and Camera App. But I have heard that Realme will be providing its own UI with stock like experience. Is it true? And is there any changes in Stock Camera App expected?

Well that's a tough decision. I just bought RM5P 8/128 GB. Have used Xiaomi for about 4+ years and was happy with performance and software. Xiaomi provides lot of power packed software feature and highly customizable UI. But having used for more than 4 years, I was bored with MIUI, so I thought of switching to something relatable.
After I got my hands on RM5P, I was disappointed with the software and less customizable UI, but man, I have no words for the performance and camera. I am glad I made a good decision switching to this as this one has power packed hardware features which no brand has given in this price range. Hopefully, the software will be improved progressively.
My advice: If you have never used Xiaomi, go for Redmi Note 8 pro. Else go for RM5P. You will be happy with both.

Currently using Realme 5 pro(6GB Variant). To be honest, Redmi Note 8 pro looks more premium with its glass back. Realme 5 pro does look somewhat premium but nowhere close to Redmi Note 8 pro. The Redmi has a faster CPU and GPU but I heard some issues with overheating( and I don't have faith in Mediatek). In the realme, I have not encountered any overheatiing isues till now. But playing PUBG for longer periods makes the phone a little bit warm which is completely normal. If you want a phone for heavy gaming go with POCO F1, this phone is way better in terms of performance but looks kinda outdated( I regret not buying it). If you want a premium feeling device go for Redmi Note 8 Pro & if you want a overall better device go for Realme 5 pro.

Thanks, and what about Camera performance?

Wolverinedd2 said:
Currently using Realme 5 pro(6GB Variant). To be honest, Redmi Note 8 pro looks more premium with its glass back. Realme 5 pro does look somewhat premium but nowhere close to Redmi Note 8 pro. The Redmi has a faster CPU and GPU but I heard some issues with overheating( and I don't have faith in Mediatek). In the realme, I have not encountered any overheatiing isues till now. But playing PUBG for longer periods makes the phone a little bit warm which is completely normal. If you want a phone for heavy gaming go with POCO F1, this phone is way better in terms of performance but looks kinda outdated( I regret not buying it). If you want a premium feeling device go for Redmi Note 8 Pro & if you want a overall better device go for Realme 5 pro.
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vinitsorte said:
Well that's a tough decision. I just bought RM5P 8/128 GB. Have used Xiaomi for about 4+ years and was happy with performance and software. Xiaomi provides lot of power packed software feature and highly customizable UI. But having used for more than 4 years, I was bored with MIUI, so I thought of switching to something relatable.
After I got my hands on RM5P, I was disappointed with the software and less customizable UI, but man, I have no words for the performance and camera. I am glad I made a good decision switching to this as this one has power packed hardware features which no brand has given in this price range. Hopefully, the software will be improved progressively.
My advice: If you have never used Xiaomi, go for Redmi Note 8 pro. Else go for RM5P. You will be happy with both.
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I Have used Redmi Note 4 a very long time ago and I don't really hate MIUI that much. Color Os is totally on other level of crap.

waqar bukhari said:
I Have used Redmi Note 4 a very long time ago and I don't really hate MIUI that much. Color Os is totally on other level of crap.
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I agree, MIUI is a little better than ColorOS except the ads.

Wolverinedd2 said:
I agree, MIUI is a little better than ColorOS except the ads.
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I don't think there are any ads in my country. And There is an option to turn off the ads as well.

waqar bukhari said:
I don't think there are any ads in my country. And There is an option to turn off the ads as well.
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Then MIUI is definitely better but would you prefer it over stock android?
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waqar bukhari said:
Thanks, and what about Camera performance?
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Realme 5 pro has very capable cameras but the 48MP images doesn't look that sharp. Normal 12MP is better( I think).
Don't know about the note!!

waqar bukhari said:
Hi all,
I am thinking of buying a new Smartphone. In my country Realme 5 Pro 8GB/128GB and Redmi Note 8 Pro 6GB/128GB are similarly priced. I am really really confused between these two.
Which one should I pick?
You expert opinions are required.
Thanks in advance.
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I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.

I'd never prefer an mtk powered device over an SD one. Just look at rm8p xda development forum and here. Words are quite unnecessary.

greenys' said:
I'd never prefer an mtk powered device over an SD one. Just look at rm8p xda development forum and here. Words are quite unnecessary.
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You are right. But I am not into rooting and stuff.

Gnusvol said:
I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
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I have used gcam with my LG G6 and the results very stunning. But on my Realme 3 gcam is not as good.
Thank you very much for a detailed reply. I also feel the same.
I have also made the similar thread in RN8 pro forum and no-one has yet replied ?.

Wolverinedd2 said:
Then MIUI is definitely better but would you prefer it over stock android?
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Realme 5 pro has very capable cameras but the 48MP images doesn't look that sharp. Normal 12MP is better( I think).
Don't know about the note!!
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I have never used stock Android Before. I have heard a lot of praise though. I am not sure if I would like it or not.
I have seen the camera Comparison of both these devices on youtube and dynamic range of Realeme 5 Pro is really much better.

waqar bukhari said:
You are right. But I am not into rooting and stuff.
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Well, as you wish but rooting and custom stuff can noticeably lengthen your device's life span and raise performance, lower battery consumption. Idk why would anyone willingly not want these but it's up to you. Even if you don't count these a SD powered device is mostly better choice for base lifespan of chipset is longer and features to add later are most of time more available for SD devices rather than mtk.

greenys' said:
Well, as you wish but rooting and custom stuff can noticeably lengthen your device's life span and raise performance, lower battery consumption. Idk why would anyone willingly not want these but it's up to you. Even if you don't count these a SD powered device is mostly better choice for base lifespan of chipset is longer and features to add later are most of time more available for SD devices rather than mtk.
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I have also come to know that Xiaomi Has released Source Code or something like that which will be very helpful for development. Actually I read it on XDA review. They also wrote that they have shipped few RN8 Pro to devs for active development. Although Development Section of RN8 Pro seems very inactive as compared to Realme 5 Pro section.
Most Probably anyone buying phone is this range will be buying a new phone after one year so Longer Life Span of phone is just not required if it can live for one year with its performance intact (Which I have doubt about due to mediatek).
Most of the people will never use Rooting and stuff on their phones even if the stuff is available for their phones (I Guess). But it is always nice to have support for your device. It is a plus but not a negative in my view.

Gnusvol said:
I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
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There is a 4/128GB variant? Btw which gcam version did you use?

Gnusvol said:
I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
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Which GCam version did you use?

waqar bukhari said:
I have also come to know that Xiaomi Has released Source Code or something like that which will be very helpful for development. Actually I read it on XDA review. They also wrote that they have shipped few RN8 Pro to devs for active development. Although Development Section of RN8 Pro seems very inactive as compared to Realme 5 Pro section.
Most Probably anyone buying phone is this range will be buying a new phone after one year so Longer Life Span of phone is just not required if it can live for one year with its performance intact (Which I have doubt about due to mediatek).
Most of the people will never use Rooting and stuff on their phones even if the stuff is available for their phones (I Guess). But it is always nice to have support for your device. It is a plus but not a negative in my view.
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Absolutely agree. Although even with released source code and free gift devices to developers indeed xda seems way more inactive if we compare redmi note 8 pro and realme 5 pro. I'm absolutely glad I bought this device instead of rm8p especially as you said custom stuff support and help. Probably mtk devices aren't the favorite of developers either so rm5p getting faster development with delayed source code reveal and even without gift devices to devs.

Wolverinedd2 said:
There is a 4/128GB variant? Btw which gcam version did you use?
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Yes there is in Indonesia.
This version MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2e.apk
In addition to the instruction there to set the saturation, I activate HDR+ enhanched mode which gives much better result in settings > general - advanced > HDR+ control = on and then set to hdr+ enhanced in the camera main screen.

Over clock the screen refresh rate

Hey guys,
Just a maybe stupid but not completely impossible idea: is there a way to over clock the screen to more than 90hz? maybe 120hz ?LOL
"Not completely impossible": i remember xiaomi mi9t (k20) has a setting and was to over clocked to 75hz on a 60hz screen.
Hope this is doable.
Update: link in my post below.

I think you can't

To back up me question, here is the link to screen overclocking thread for mi 9t/9t pro
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/themes/mod-overclock-screen-to-75hz-refresh-t3951339

Pretty sure you could only overclock the Mi9T panel because it used a cheaper panel. Oneplus phones have never seen success overclocking past stock.

Question ATTN Devs: please look into overclocking panel to 90hz+

I know this has been done with other phones. Manufacturers are software capping these panels and hoping they don't eat into their more pricey devices (ie pixel 6/ 6 pro) by performing these anti-consumer practices. It would be grealyt appreciated if we can get higher than pathetic 60hz in 2022.

"pathetic" 60hz is good enough for 85% of people who would by this phone.

Dadud said:
"pathetic" 60hz is good enough for 85% of people who would by this phone.
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Only thing is I think more like 95%. Anyone concerned that much wouldn't buy the phone. But a 6.1" device... ahh heaven. Never again will I get anything larger.

usually the way refresh rate is done on devices is hardware. Its not like your computer monitor where you can overclock it. There are hardware limits.
Nothing google has done on the 6a is "anti-consumer" because the screen won't go over 60hz...

You can't make a 60Hz screen run at 90Hz, but you can make a 90Hz screen run at 60Hz to save battery life.
Odds are Google put a 60Hz screen in the phone to cut down on the overall cost. If they put in a 90 Hz screen, they would have marketed it as such because more people would be attracted to the phone with that feature.

sic0048 said:
You can't make a 60Hz screen run at 90Hz, but you can make a 90Hz screen run at 60Hz to save battery life.
Odds are Google put a 60Hz screen in the phone to cut down on the overall cost. If they put in a 90 Hz screen, they would have marketed it as such because more people would be attracted to the phone with that feature.
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Exactly. "Overclocking" a display panel is difficult at best, impossible at worst. If you want a 90Hz screen, buy a Pixel 6. Don't buy a mid range device and expect premium features.

Hmmm????
Google Pixel 6a display was turned into operating at 90Hz

sic0048 said:
You can't make a 60Hz screen run at 90Hz, but you can make a 90Hz screen run at 60Hz to save battery life.
Odds are Google put a 60Hz screen in the phone to cut down on the overall cost. If they put in a 90 Hz screen, they would have marketed it as such because more people would be attracted to the phone with that feature.
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There would be two reasons to throttle the refresh rate; Battery Life and Thermal issues.

120Hz would be insane but I'd gladly take 90Hz...
In case some of u haven't heard...
Ongoing Pixel 6a 90Hz display testing shows better success
The Pixel 6a 90Hz mod still isn't public, but you've got more reasons to be optimistic about it now
www.androidpolice.com
It may take some but this moder is known for boosting refresh rates.
He also said the 6a panel is made by Samsung and is capable 120Hz refresh rates. The story mentions...
"The current solution also requires manually flashing an image to one of the system partitions, which means unlocking your bootloader, breaking SafetyNet, etc., so it could be too big of a pain for most of our readers to attempt."
Oh my!! You mean that shady and back-breaking act of unlocking, rooting and breaking SaftyNet...which can be fixed with a simple Magisk mod!? It's easy to see that AP knows who 'butters it's bread' with tons of advertising...

971shep said:
There would be two reasons to throttle the refresh rate; Battery Life and Thermal issues.
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Three. Keep the distance to the Pixel 6.

I have only turned my pixel 5 to 90hz maybe a dozen times since owning since release day. I turn it on to play once 6a came out and honestly, 60hz is fine, but everyone different.
I'd just wait for the Pixel 7 if 90hz is a huge issue. Or get a P5 or P5a or P6
Many a good Pixel to choose from.

As it seems when someone express a wish on this thread, it come true... Soooo, what about breaking that 18W charging limit ?
(joking)

natheux said:
As it seems when someone express a wish on this thread, it come true... Soooo, what about breaking that 18W charging limit ?
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Big NO..
Don't do it.. You might set your apartment on fire..

Looks like the cry babies got their wish of 90hz. I almost wish you hadn't. Its such a dumb thing to complain so heavily about.
Even if it did support 90hz out of the box, 3 of my spare phones support up to 120, and i run them at 60. anything above 60 on such a small screen just personally makes me dizzy.
Hope most of you realize its more than likely a dangerous overclocking game that will wear out the display far more quickly.

Most people don't have dizzy issues tho. You prefer 60...that's just fine, but don't rag on other for wanting the best experience possible...esp from a mid-ranger with a flagship processor! Smh...

Zaxx32 said:
Most people don't have dizzy issues tho. You prefer 60...that's just fine, but don't rag on other for wanting the best experience possible...esp from a mid-ranger with a flagship processor! Smh...
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its the way they complained. Idc what people do or don't enjoy... I'm ragging on it because of the way they IMMEDIATELY complained about a BUDGET DEVICE not having a high end device feature, and demanding hackers/modders find a way to do it. And its definitely not equal to a flagship processor.

The Tensor is the same as in the Pixel 6 Pro...a flagship device.
I agree tho...there were 2 separate threads started, like right off the bat, that shoulda been combined imo and yeah it was annoying...
Being a root/mod user and a PC builder on a budget, I guess I am a bit partial... I'm always tryin' to squeeze the BBB outta everything I build/buy. (oh, BBB=Best Bang for the Buck)
With a PC it's easy, if u want better gfx, you buy a better gfx card. If you want faster load times, you get a faster chipset...and so on.
But with a phone you're stuck. U have to buy smart and choose well. For me, the 6a is the best (phone) buy/upgrade I've ever made, coming from a P4a even.

CYB3R0ID694 said:
Hmmm????
Google Pixel 6a display was turned into operating at 90Hz
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Sigh.... Yes I'm correct. A bunch of fools in this thread. I've overclocked countless TV and monitors past their advertised refresh rate.

I hope 90Hz will be released in future hentaiOS build. Best solution would be to have it as Magisk module or custom kernel though

any news about this ?