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[Q] Dialer killing battery

So it seems that the Dialer on my Nexus S is killing my battery. I noticed over a last few days that it will be at 40% or more of battery usage. It seems it keeps the phone awake. Anyone had this happen?

no one out there has noticed an unusual Dialer activity causing the phone to be awake?

Stock or custom rom?
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i just looked at my phone and the Dialer is at 40%, then Display at 16%. I'm on 2.3.2 stock.

2% here for me, right at the bottom of the list.

Stock 2.3.2
It's very intermitent. It's fine today. I bet it'll be back up after another restart.

Dialer was at 17% here about two hours ago, restarted and it's calmed down. This has happened about three days in a row. Hard to replicate though
CPU Total: 4m 45s
CPU Foreground: 18s
Keep Awake: 1h 6m 12s
Trying to figure out what the trigger for this is. Do you have a bluetooth that you make phone calls with by chance?

Have you by chance tried clearing the data of the dialer in applications settings > dialer?
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c_licious said:
Have you by chance tried clearing the data of the dialer in applications settings > dialer?
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I haven't but last night I let my battery drain dead. So far today Dialer is at 2%. There is some sort of trigger that makes it stick, just gotta figure out what that trigger is.

Nope. I do not use a BT headset. Mine did it today again. Went into "all apps" and force stopped dialer storage. Phone lost signal for about 30 seconds, then came back. No change in activity since then, as in it stopped running.

Has anyone in this thread having the problem by chance turned on the Internet Calling SIP accounts. I just realized that the Dialer seems to be keeping the Wifi active. I did set up my SIP Gizmo5 account and turned on allow to "receive incoming calls (reduces battery life)." I'm thinking this may be what's causing it.

I got this Dialer issue as well last night. This has been couple of times. But, I did not know what might the root cause until recently. Well, still don't know, but I might know "when" it can happen. At least I noticed this several times.
Dialer is awake when I set my phone to use WiFi ... AND ... WiFi sleep policy = NEVER.
So, when my phone is turned off, the WiFi is still active.
Then the Dialer is also awake for some reason.
If I use 3G, this has never happened.
I am using stock ROM 2.3.2, not-rooted.
Is there any app that can "monitor" and find out why the Dialer is awake?
Or, is there any app that can do background logging? Logging Android activity while device is OFF.

Have you set up internet phone? SIP phone under call settings?
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No, I don't set that.
I just re-checked:
Internet Call Settings:
Accounts -> Receive Incoming Calls [ ] (unchecked)
Nothing under SIP Accounts
Use Internet Calling
(*) Only for Internet Calls
Should I change "Ask for each call" ?
derfasaurus said:
Have you set up internet phone? SIP phone under call settings?
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I don't think that will matter. I turned off my SIP calling, don't know if it will solve my issue. Was hoping yours was the same.
I shall continue to monitor.
gogol said:
No, I don't set that.
I just re-checked:
Internet Call Settings:
Accounts -> Receive Incoming Calls [ ] (unchecked)
Nothing under SIP Accounts
Use Internet Calling
(*) Only for Internet Calls
Should I change "Ask for each call" ?
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I have posted in Android Software Development:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935772
In case a brilliant Android developer will take that as a challenge.
I think, this kind of tool is very useful for issue like this.

Found a good tool for background logging:
http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.nolanlawson.logcat/CatLog-Logcat-Reader
It can record while the device is sleeping.
Let see if I can find something.
gogol said:
I have posted in Android Software Development:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935772
In case a brilliant Android developer will take that as a challenge.
I think, this kind of tool is very useful for issue like this.
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My buddy with a Nexus S just reported the same issue. Dialer taking 12%, no SIP installed. Wifi Sleep Policy to be off when the screen is off. Hasn't made a phone call in two days according to him. I'm running out of ideas. Mine hasn't kicked in the past two or three days, I'll keep an eye out still.

In case anyone hasn't seen my post on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10801621&postcount=1
Since I don't have a SIM in (and the phone is in airplane mode all day, every day), I'm thinking it has something to do with SIP calling as I have a Gizmo account set up, set to receive incoming calls. Also, the turn over silence thing didn't help me at all.

booyakasha said:
In case anyone hasn't seen my post on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10801621&postcount=1
Since I don't have a SIM in (and the phone is in airplane mode all day, every day), I'm thinking it has something to do with SIP calling as I have a Gizmo account set up, set to receive incoming calls. Also, the turn over silence thing didn't help me at all.
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I still have never seen the "turn over for silence" option. I think it's specific to CM7 or other custom roms, it's not on the stock rom unless I'm missing something.

Google Talk - Delayed Incoming Notifications

Hey guys,
Tried searching for this, but nada.
Anyone else having issues with your phone being idle but powered on ans upon bringing on the screen you receive a google talk notification that's old? Is been happening to me lately, and I can't tell if it's the phone or the fact that my desktop version is intercepting the message and preventing the phone notification.
I'm tempted to no longer use the desktop built in gmail version, but I wanted to see if others are having similar issues.
Thanks in advance!
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Can't guarantee this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with the phone letting the Google talk process close when the phone is in it's sleep state. I've noted that I keep having to re sign in to gtalk when I wake up my phone and suspect that it is an issue with the horrible multitasking that HTC has bundled into sense 4.0.

I assume both of you also get delayed notifications with push email using the native Gmail app? I also frequently get logged out of Google Talk when I put the phone in standby mode. When I am logged out of Google Talk, my push emails are delayed in the Gmail app until I log back into Google Talk.
So it seems to be some problem of getting disconnected from google services when the phone is asleep.

I don't think i've been getting delayed notifications, but I do notice that my chat gets out of order a lot. My replies will be above whoever is talking to me no matter what order each was sent in.

Almost every phone that comes out gets a google talk going eventually so there is lots out there, but each phone has it's own issues. Here is a thread that was pretty good from the Galaxy Nexus Forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400367
With the HOX I have had issues with Google Talk not working great when the wifi is dropping, so this might be part of the wifi issue that pretty much everybody is having with this phone. The wifi stays connected but seems to go to sleep so your phone only gets the notification once it is woken up. Try turning off the wifi and seeing if you have the same problem.
As for Google Talk, there are some oddities that go along with using it on multiple devices. Here is some stuff I figured out playing around with it on multiple devices and computers at the same time. (I posted this in the GN forums as well)
"Google Talk is my main means of communication it seems so I have played with it a lot. Here are my observations.
1. To keep it "up" all the time in the Talk App hit the menu button (three dots now) >settings>uncheck automatic away status. Also make sure your phone has automatic syncing turned on for your gmail account: Setting>Accounts and Sync>ON (for your chat gmail address anyway). Additionally make sure your mobile data is turned on if you are ever off wifi: Settings>More>Mobile networks>Data Enabled (checked to turn on)
2. You can have up to 6 devices linked to your talk account at once, after that they just stop working.
3. When you receive a IM it appears on both your phone and your gmail account. If you start typing on the gmail account (or G+) it hijacks the whole session and you phone no longer gets the notifications, but the conversation still shows up on the chat window on the phone. When you are done with the IM session make sure you close the window on gmail (or G+) and send one last message from your phone or tablet to take the session back over, if you don't your phone will not receive future chat notifications. You can also just log out of your gmail/G+ session and it will automatically return everything to your phone/tablet but who ever does that?
4. To figure out how it all worked and tinker with it I use both of my gmail accounts and chat back and forth with them. You can do it from separate browsers or just open an incognito window in Chrome and log into your other gmail account. I would recommend this so you can see all of this stuff in practice.
Good Luck, hope this helps"

Gtalk and gmail delays
Hi all,
I have performed tests and discovered that if i disable WiFI and only use the phone's data connection "4g" or LTE that i receive all my messages with no problem even when the phone locks/goes to sleep. However if i leave wifi turned on, within 5-10 seconds i stop receiving them and will only receive them when i wake up the phone/unlock or wait for the delay which can be anywhere from 5-15 mins.
Trying to figure out a way to by pass this, but can't seem to figure it out. I don't want to keep my wifi off when i'm at work or home so i don't use data as i have 3GB and not unlimited so it kind of sucks that i have to keep wifi off for now. Any thoughts/ideas would be great, thanks.

k0sun7eash3d said:
Can't guarantee this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with the phone letting the Google talk process close when the phone is in it's sleep state. I've noted that I keep having to re sign in to gtalk when I wake up my phone and suspect that it is an issue with the horrible multitasking that HTC has bundled into sense 4.0.
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This. I have issues with timely/accurate reception of notifications from GV. I only use my account for voicemail, but typically I only get voicemail notifications if I open the actual application (which I do because my gmail account receives an email notification now, as well). Sometimes I notice GV as a running task, but often times not, so to me it seems that (possibly) multitasking or some other form of process management in ICS or Sense is not prioritizing the GV process and it's associated actions. I dont mind the aggressive multitasking, but it would be nice to have the option of protecting some processes, such as GV.

I removed google + app completely with titanium backup, and the problem is gone., I get the messages immediately

Push Notifications Fixer can fix it
xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer

I'm running the latest Viper, I've never had an issue receiving or sending msgs. The only time the phone won't alert me is if I am actively typing in the browser window.
I'll note though that I never have wifi on, it's always on the mobile network.

andQlimax said:
Push Notifications Fixer can fix it
xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer
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I tried everything not even this works for me
Same problem, screen off - phone disconnects, unlock the phone - messages start to appear
Same problem on 2 different phones and 2 different numbers

I don't use G Talk, but I see the same thing with G Voice. I almost never get voicemail notifications on my HOX (they show up instantly on my old GNex). I blame Sense (for this and other things).

Same problem, but with Nexus 4 when I am on WiFi. With data connection, it works without problems.

Verizon Galaxy S6 Owners - a couple of questions - honest answers please

1: Does you S6 jump from a 4G signal down to a 1X signal every time you make or receive a call without "Advanced Calling" activated?
2: When you open the Play Store is you data slow when loading the images? Like the wording is there but the images take a good while to load.
3: Does your phone receive instant Push Notifications from Gmail/Email and other programs when Not connected to WiFi ?
Please give me honest answers as I'm trying to decide if I should throw in the towel on the Verizon Galaxy S6. :crying:
I'm on my second one and both have given me major problems.

1. Actually idk since advanced calling is always been enabled for me.
2. No
3. Yes

1. i have seen this happen but my phone works as expected
2. no but it does sometimes say not available for a sec or 2 but then works as expected
3. yes

felloffthetruck said:
1: Does you S6 jump from a 4G signal down to a 1X signal every time you make or receive a call without "Advanced Calling" activated?
2: When you open the Play Store is you data slow when loading the images? Like the wording is there but the images take a good while to load.
3: Does your phone receive instant Push Notifications from Gmail/Email and other programs when Not connected to WiFi ?
Please give me honest answers as I'm trying to decide if I should throw in the towel on the Verizon Galaxy S6. :crying:
I'm on my second one and both have given me major problems.
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These all sound like data issues.
1) I explain about VoLTE here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60482133&postcount=6
2) Nope, sounds like a slow data issue.
3) Yes, sounds like a data issue for you.
Things to try:
1) Factory Reset
2) You have poor signal in your area
If you've had 2 phones and they've both given you issues, I'm inclined to think it's number 2.

Your phone will drop to 1x during call without volte enabled. I enabled it and can surf and talk at the same time now. (Don't forget you restart)
2. Sounds like slow data connection. Mine loads slower in the evening hours. (Congestion)
3. I'm never connected to Wi-Fi and all my emails and push everything comes through fine.
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felloffthetruck said:
1: Does you S6 jump from a 4G signal down to a 1X signal every time you make or receive a call without "Advanced Calling" activated?
2: When you open the Play Store is you data slow when loading the images? Like the wording is there but the images take a good while to load.
3: Does your phone receive instant Push Notifications from Gmail/Email and other programs when Not connected to WiFi ?
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1. Yes. That's normal for this phone.
2. No.
3. It was having problems with that, but that issue has since resolved itself. I believe it was a widespread network issue.
Main issue is battery life, which hopefully will be somewhat improved via the next software update.

felloffthetruck said:
1: Does you S6 jump from a 4G signal down to a 1X signal every time you make or receive a call without "Advanced Calling" activated?
2: When you open the Play Store is you data slow when loading the images? Like the wording is there but the images take a good while to load.
3: Does your phone receive instant Push Notifications from Gmail/Email and other programs when Not connected to WiFi ?
Please give me honest answers as I'm trying to decide if I should throw in the towel on the Verizon Galaxy S6. :crying:
I'm on my second one and both have given me major problems.
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You are not alone with regards to your 3rd question. I have notified Samsung and the carrier is also involved working hopefully with samsung to fix this bug. Very odd but it affects some phones and not others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...s-stop-screen-off-t3071248/page4#post60888131

Stamina Mode or MMS issues?? Read here!

All,
**ONLY DO THE FOLLOWING IF YOU'RE HAVING THE LISTED ISSUES AND NOTHING ELSE IS WORKING**
I use Google Messenger since the Z3's stock messenger app clearly CANNOT handle MMS properly. This is what worked for me....................
Before setting up your Z3 to be able to handle MMS messages correctly, as well as enabling Smart Call Handling to ACTUALLY work, you must do the following which will do both a factory reset AND re-update your phone. My software must’ve been corrupted at some point because after doing this, my phone worked much better. The battery life had gotten really bad (would get really hot and battery would drain fast), but now it’s back to incredible again. My phone works 100% for the first time ever!!
** Sony PC Companion Instructions:
We have an extended guide that should help you fix the issue on your phone, please follow the instructions carefully:
Visit this link:
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/tools/pc-companion/
Click on Download PC Companion
Run the software and install it
Turn the phone off and disconnect it from the computer
1. No matter what the program says do not connect the phone until you complete step 9
2. In the welcome screen you will see the different modules available for you including the "Support Zone" option. Click on "Start" below it.
3. On the next page Click on "Start" under "Phone Software Update"
At this point if you get an error stating that "Unable to install update components" or "Server is busy" , then please proceed to step 12
4. The program will say that there is no phone connected. Click on the option below that reads: "Repair my phone" the program will issue you a warning about the content that you will lose during the update
5. Choose the option to continue.
6. The program will issue a final message warning you of possible data lost during the update. Click on the checkmark and then on "Next".
7. After that, the program will download the necessary information (5 to 6 minutes) and it will present you with a list of phones.
8. Choose your phones model from the list then click on "Next" then you will see a new section telling you how to connect the phone. (don't connect it yet) (YOU CAN FIND YOUR PHONE’S MODEL # BY DOING THIS: SETTINGS-->ABOUT PHONE-->MODEL NUMBER)
At this point the phone must be off and disconnected from the PC.
9. Connect the cable to the PC not to the phone, then while pressing and holding the indicated button (in the steps on screen an specific button will be shown for you to press on the phone) connect the cable to the phone and keep holding the indicated button until the program says "the update of your phone has started..." (in some cases a message of "Installing drivers" will appear before the message of "the update of your phone has started..." is shown.)
10. If you failed to follow the steps correctly the phone will turn on and it will request that you "Proceed with the following steps, slide down the notification bar", If this happens disconnect the phone from the cable, turn it off and repeat from step 9).
11. If the phone is connected properly, PC Companion will proceed with the update ( It will tell you to let go of the back key) then wait for the update to finish and follow instructions on screen to disconnect the unit.
Dear Customer,
12. If "Unable to install update components"
1. Close PC Companion
2. Install Java from: http://www.java.com
3. Start PC Companion again and try to do the software unlock process once more.
Note: If you wish only to update the unit wait for the program to open and then select the quick link on the upper left corner that says "Update Phone/Tablet" and follow the instructions to perform the update. (the PC may request for the phone to be placed in Mass Storage mode. Do this by going into Settings>Xperia>Connectivity>USB connection mode)
Now that you have completed the PC Companion part, follow these instructions carefully to restore MMS and Smart Call Handling: (NOTE: Although Lollipop has fixed the MMS issues with the Z3, I highly recommend Google Messenger over Stock. I don't know for sure if Lollipop has corrected the Stamina Mode issues though as of yet.)
1) Add a NEW APN (Settings-->More-->Mobile networks-->Access Point Names ((APN))-->push the + sign button) using these settings (and make sure to select it after creating and saving it): (UPDATE: Don't do this if using Google Messenger ((preferred)) while on Lollipop. )
Name: T-Mobile Data 2
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy: not set
Port: not set
Username: not set
Password: not set
Server: not set
MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: not set
MMS port: not set
MMS protocol: WAP 2.0 <---(DOES NOT APPLY TO THE Z3, BUT OTHER PHONE USERS MAY WANNA TRY IT)
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
Auth Type: not set
APN type: default,mms,supl,admin,hipri
APN proto: IPv4/IPv6
APN roaming proto: IPv4/IPv6
APN enable/disable: enable
Bearer: unspecified
2) DISABLE Stock Messenger app.
3) Replace it with Google Messenger. It works just fine with VoLTE enabled too, so enable VoLTE as well. Very important: After installing GM, read 4.1 below and follow ALL of it.
4) (Update: I NO LONGER use Stamina Mode. Too many issues, too buggy. Only way to resolve them usually ends up involving a factory reset (see above). However, I've found an app that works even better than Stamina Mode IMO. Instead of waiting 15 minutes after you turn your screen off to kick in like SM does, this app starts RIGHT away. And unlike SM, it does NOT cause any issues or even delays with SMS & especially MMS messages! It simply hibernates your apps when the screen is off, which means it doesn't let them continually do background stuff, but it DOES still allow calls, IMs, e-mails, and texts to come through with no problem. The app is called 360 Hibernation Master. It's free to download, but I highly advise getting the full paid version (currently $1.95) to get the most out of it. I leave my phone uncharged at night with this app, and when I wake up, I still have EXACTLY the same (give or take 1%) battery percentage in the morning!! So disable SM, and get this app now!! Highly recommended!!!)
You can leave STAMINA mode on (under Settings-->Power management), however...... only enable the "Extended Standby" option and of course Activation should be at 100%/Always on. Also make sure “Queue background data” is enabled too. You must also have whitelisted 2 specific apps in STAMINA under the "Apps active in standby" list: The text msg app you're using (i.e. Textra, Google Messenger, etc…. the stock app will NOT be listed though) and I would also whitelist one under "All others" entitled "Phone/Messaging Storage". Keep the other stuff disabled in here. With regards to STAMINA mode:
4.1) OPTIONAL: IF AT ANY POINT STAMINA MODE IS NOT WORKING (i.e., WITH IT ON AT 100% POWER, IT SAYS ON STAMINA MODE SETTINGS PAGE THAT YOU HAVE ANYTHING LESS THAN 5 DAYS AND 3-4 HOURS FOR ESTIMATED BATTERY TIME), THEN FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS: Turn off STAMINA mode. Go into Settings, Apps, All, Extended Standby Mode Controller (now called Stamina Mode), Clear Data. Then go to your text app's (Google Messenger, Textra, Stock, etc….do it for all texting apps you have) "App info" page (on same Apps "All" screen) and clear ONLY the cache, then close out the app itself (3D button to the right of the virtual Home button, swipe the text app(s) off the screen). Restart phone (NOT factory reset). When you come back, follow what I said above in #4, including turning STAMINA mode back on. (Don't worry if Projected Battery Life times seem "off" down the line. This is normal. Sony needs to fix it, but it doesn't mean Stamina Mode's not working. Stamina Mode kicks in after the screen's been off and phone left uncharged for 15+ minutes. If after a few hours like this or even overnight your phone's battery percentage has dropped less than 5%, Stamina Mode IS working. If over like 5%, then it probably isn't and you need to follow what I am saying here in this post.)
5) Put “Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep” to "Only when plugged in" (Settings--> Wi-Fi--> Advanced). Also, make sure everything else on that page is unchecked/disabled.
6) OPTIONAL: IF HAVING ISSUES RECEIVING TEXTS FROM IPHONE USERS WHO HAVE iMessage ENABLED ON THEIR IPHONE, THEN FOLLOW THIS: And lastly, there’s the “iMessage” issue ppl like myself are/were having (also those with LG G2 I’ve heard have this issue too) where when someone with an iPhone sends you an MMS pic text msg while their iMessage option is on, you don’t get the text…….. try this (a T-Mobile store rep told me this and it worked!): send YOURSELF an MMS photo text msg but include at least one other phone # as well too. If you’re using Textra or anything besides just the stock text app, then do this for EACH app. If that is the case, then do it via stock app first then Textra/Google Messenger (easier this way). If you receive the pic successfully, then ask anyone you know with an iPhone to send you an MMS message (preferably having a 3rd phone # in on it too, but not sure if you need to) with iMessage ON. If you receive it, then it worked. If not, try this again.
What I just said here MAY resolve any lingering MMS issues, and also resolve any issues regarding STAMINA mode not kicking in too.
If you have any questions, let me know.
P.S. This ALSO fixed my Smart Call Handling issue where it wasn't working, but now is.
P.P.S. One thing people................. in recent weeks, I've had two instances (post-Lollipop) where after turning on my screen while phone was in Stamina Mode (Wi-Fi off), the "4G LTE" icon at top would not appear, even after like a minute of waiting. I'm guessing this is some kind of minor bug with Stamina Mode. I just did a quick reset of my phone, and it was fine after that. So I guess Stamina Mode isn't perfect, yet, but this is so minor to me that I'm not gonna worry about it. But now I guess Sony has two bugs to fix. lol (UPDATE: THIS APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN FIXED.)
RockStar2005

I didn't have any MMS issues on my Z3C but #5 was a big help for my stamina mode! Thank you!

Puff,
No problem!! Just glad you got it fixed up. Now you can REALLY enjoy your phone, and not have to worry so much about keeping it charged. lol
RockStar2005

Text msg issue resurfacing?
Just recently, for no good reason, I've discovered that I don't get certain/random text messages until I reset my phone. I never had this issue before, but it's happened now twice in the last week. So I'm trying out the alternate APN (step 1 from my main post, second half) and am hoping that will do the trick. I thought it was a network thing, but I don't think so now that it's happened twice. If this doesn't fix it, then I'll have to try disabling VoLTE again, but I'm hoping since the Lollipop update included fixes for VoLTE that I won't have to do that too. We'll see.
I had a similar issue pre-Lollipop, but that was for only MMS (data and/or group) messages, not SMS (regular) messages. This time around it's just SMS. Weird.
I'll post updates here in the coming weeks after I determine whether or not the alternate APN fixed it like it did pre-Lollipop.
RockStar2005

I just started having MMS over Wifi issues over the past couple days. It had been working great up until then, on lollipop using the stock messaging app and stock APN settings. Now it's no longer working without having a data connection.

volkey,
I'm sorry to hear that. The stock texting app sux on most phones, and the Z3 is no exception.
See the second half of my main post (after the Sony PC Companion part). Read it carefully, esp the parts regarding WiFi and Textra/MMS. It should fix it.
RockStar205

Can anyone help. i rebooted my whole phone to fix my battery and stamina mode and it worked fine for the day,, but come the end of the day around 4pm my phone was on 67% and said i still had like 11 hours left without stamina mode, then all of a sudden it says i will only have 4 hours left. and stamina mode enabled would give me 11. please help

Brad,
You may need to do a factory reset using Sony PC Companion to fix it. I had a similar issue and this fixed it.
Read my original post above, carefully. Almost 100% chance if you follow it carefully it will resolve your issue. You can skip the MMS parts in the second half, but I'd at least skim them so you know what's up. You may even wanna try them out if you have time.
Let us know what happens, and if you have any other questions.
RockStar2005

RockStar2005 said:
Brad,
You may need to do a factory reset using Sony PC Companion to fix it. I had a similar issue and this fixed it.
Read my original post above, carefully. Almost 100% chance if you follow it carefully it will resolve your issue. You can skip the MMS parts in the second half, but I'd at least skim them so you know what's up. You may even wanna try them out if you have time.
Let us know what happens, and if you have any other questions.
RockStar2005
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Hey man, thanks for getting back to me. i did a factory reset the first time and it solved it, then disaster hit lol, i followed the stamina mode (5.1) all is good now, but i think if it happens again i'll have to keep doing that hole Clear cache Stamina mode malarki

Brad,
Ok. But honestly, if it happens again, for me, that wasn't enough. Clearing the cache for Stamina Mode can work, but if it persists, the only fix for me was the factory reset via Sony PC Companion. I also use Sony PC Companion for big updates like Lollipop, but don't think the little ones need it (though you can for those too).
I also recommend removing Stamina Mode from your Navigation Pane to avoid accidental disabling. It's my theory that enabling/disabling Stamina Mode too often is what messes it up in the first place, though I can't exactly prove it.
The way I knew that Stamina Mode was shot was that the battery seemed to drain really fast, even with Stamina Mode on. My way of testing it is to leave the screen off for a few hours or so (or even just overnight) and then checking it later. If it has gone done more than 2-3%, then it's not working, and you WILL need to do the Sony PC Companion factory reset. Honestly, I don't even charge my phone overnight anymore. lol I go to bed with it at 100% or whatever and then the next morning (about 6-7 hours later) if it was at 100% at night, in morning it's never any lower than 98%. Sometimes it's still at 100%, but not often. The Z3 has the best smartphone battery available right now, hands down. (And they make the same camera sensors used in the iPhone and Galaxy phones. Fact.)
Stamina Mode takes 15 min to kick in after screen is turned off, then after that, it cuts WiFi and Data, which are big power consumers. I recommend whitelisting certain apps like third party texting apps like Textra to ensure the messages (SMS & MMS) come through even when Stamina is running. (Other smartphones that have Power Saver don't have whitelisting that I know of....... so another bonus of owning a Z phone.)
RockStar2005

bradd95x said:
Can anyone help. i rebooted my whole phone to fix my battery and stamina mode and it worked fine for the day,, but come the end of the day around 4pm my phone was on 67% and said i still had like 11 hours left without stamina mode, then all of a sudden it says i will only have 4 hours left. and stamina mode enabled would give me 11. please help
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It's just a bug in your battery stats - stamina mode is still working properly. It happens to all of us.

PuffDaddy_d said:
It's just a bug in your battery stats - stamina mode is still working properly. It happens to all of us.
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Oh. I thought it was actual. Yeah Brad, I didn't realize what you were saying. If that's the only issue, and you're not noticing ACTUAL battery drain, then just ignore it and you're fine. Sorry. It's a bug as discussed earlier in this thread that Sony needs to fix, but it has no ACTUAL impact on battery life.
RockStar2005

Well, my Stamina Mode "fix" only lasted about a week. I recently started noticing the phone battery levels dropping even while it was "asleep". The wifi turned off as it should, but the battery percentage refused to hold steady. I finally gave in and cleared the data/cache for Stamina Mode and rebooted the phone (not factory reset). Looks like I'll have to do this once a week for the lifetime of the phone, or just bite the bullet and do a fresh install as RockStar suggested.

Puff,
That sux. I think you're better off "biting the bullet", but if you wanna deal with it on a weekly basis, be my guest. I went through the same thing and the short term hassle of factory resetting it to me completely outdoes having it be a continuous issue.
Good luck!
RockStar2005

Puff Daddy and all,
See my updated Original Post (OP) with regards to Google Messenger (over Stock and Textra). (Note the parts in bold.)
NOW we can have VoLTE AND a text messaging app that works well with it too! :good:
Post any questions you might have.

Get NATIVE Hotspot Working with Unlimited Data (No Root) on S8

Video instructions are linked below.**
Hey, everyone! I just wanted to share something that I figured out when I was trying to enable my WiFi hotspot on my S8. First of all, I have an AT&T Galaxy S8 (G950U) with Unlimited Data, and my hotspot doesn't typically work at all. When I try to enable it normally, it has to "verify," then it tells me I need to subscribe. However, while playing around with Package Disabler Pro and the hotspot, I figured out how to get the hotspot turned on (running off of unlimited data) without root or any sort of complex workaround. The only things you'll need are a $2 app, ANY WiFi source (even locked), and a supported carrier on your S8 (AT&T, Verizon, and others). Here the steps to get it up and running:
1) Download Package Disabler Pro (by policedeveloper), get it up and running, and search for "tether" in the seach box
2) Three options should pop up ("TetheringProvision", "TetheringAutomation", and "com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice"). Disable all three packages.
3) Go to your Mobile Hotspot settings and make sure WiFi Sharing is turned ON. Very important.
4) Go to your WiFi Settings and connect to any WiFi network near you, but PURPOSELY put in the wrong WiFi password. It will try to connect for a short time, so you need to be quick on the next step.
5) Quickly enable your mobile hotspot while the phone is still trying to connect to the network with the wrong password. After the hotspot turns on, quickly turn off your WiFi. The hotspot will stay on and continue to run off of your unlimited data!
I actually tested this last year on the Galaxy S7 edge on AT&T, so it works on there as well! I've uploaded the following videos to YouTube as well for the S7 and S8 respectively, so if this helped you, be sure to go click on some ads on my YouTube videos! It helps me out lol.
**S7 edge video: https://youtu.be/w3usivgCFSc
**S8 video: https://youtu.be/f8n6-ZrdIQg
It's worth noting that I'm actually not sure how many carriers this works on. I know it doesn't work on Sprint, but lately it actually started working on Verizon too. I've had some people tell me that it works on other smaller carriers as well, but if it works for you in a different carrier leave a comment below so I can see how many it works on please!

Not seemingly working for sprint. No matter how fast I swap to disable the wifi, if the wifi is disconnected, hotspot it turned off.

druep said:
Not seemingly working for sprint. No matter how fast I swap to disable the wifi, if the wifi is disconnected, hotspot it turned off.
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Yeah, unfortunately it won't work on Sprint. Turns out they have a different way of checking to see if you're subscribed to tethering. I did find this thread several months ago dealing with getting the hotspot turned on with Sprint though. Check it out and let me know if it still works if you don't mind:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6-edge/general/unlimited-hotspot-root-t3249042

ldog3211 said:
Yeah, unfortunately it won't work on Sprint. Turns out they have a different way of checking to see if you're subscribed to tethering. I did find this thread several months ago dealing with getting the hotspot turned on with Sprint though. Check it out and let me know if it still works if you don't mind:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6-edge/general/unlimited-hotspot-root-t3249042
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Actually, you could also try downloading the Galaxy Tools app, check "enable hotspot", and then reboot your phone. Basically works the same way I think but it's automatic:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/afvzbs5w752yp4p/GTv3.1.5.apk?dl=0

ldog3211 said:
Yeah, unfortunately it won't work on Sprint. Turns out they have a different way of checking to see if you're subscribed to tethering. I did find this thread several months ago dealing with getting the hotspot turned on with Sprint though. Check it out and let me know if it still works if you don't mind:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6-edge/general/unlimited-hotspot-root-t3249042
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In an OTA update last Friday, Sprint locked down the ##DATA# method and settings are now grayed out for me. The previous Shortcut method I'd used to edit APN settings wasn't working either. I did come a different Shortcut Master search string which allowed me to get in and edit the APN, however. I don't know why from one view it works, but from the other it did not. If memory serves it was looking for LTEfunctionality.

These carriers need a swift kick in the ass for disabling features on these phones.

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In an OTA update last Friday, Sprint locked down the ##DATA# method and settings are now grayed out for me. The previous Shortcut method I'd used to edit APN settings wasn't working either. I did come a different Shortcut Master search string which allowed me to get in and edit the APN, however. I don't know why from one view it works, but from the other it did not. If memory serves it was looking for LTEfunctionality.
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Oh, I see. That sucks! I don't have a Sprint Galaxy phone, so I can't test anything out, but I wonder if it's still possible through that different search string. I don't really know how any of that works though. What I really wish would happen is for Samsung to actually stand up to these carriers and not keep taking their BS. However, even Apple, as great as they are at this, blocks the hotspot on certain iPhones depending on the carrier and plan...

peachpuff said:
These carriers need a swift kick in the ass for disabling features on these phones.
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Yes tf they do. Samsung needs to learn from Apple and stop taking the carriers' BS. That right there would solve a problem a lot of people have with Samsung, but of course they're not going to stop.

druep said:
In an OTA update last Friday, Sprint locked down the ##DATA# method and settings are now grayed out for me. The previous Shortcut method I'd used to edit APN settings wasn't working either. I did come a different Shortcut Master search string which allowed me to get in and edit the APN, however. I don't know why from one view it works, but from the other it did not. If memory serves it was looking for LTEfunctionality.
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U r correct, the ltefunctionality is the place for editing the apns. Search the sprint thread as this method has been posted several times using quickshortcut maker app and searching test to find the directory. Click try then look for lteapn settings and add dun to the default,mms. It should look like the following.... deault,mms,dun
Any prl or profile updates along with android os updates will undo this. So each time any of those update redo the above steps. I'm on 10gb hotspot and have used it for 3 weeks last month with Bill showing no hotspot data used. I'm on sprint

You should've bought an unlocked S8. I have unlimited data on AT&T with an unlocked S8 and the hotspot works just fine.

peachpuff said:
These carriers need a swift kick in the ass for disabling features on these phones.
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I never run out of reasons to ensure any phone I buy has root.

Does this method show as you using hot spot and they charge you for using it? I have the unlimited data plan but I am not paying the extra for the hotspot feature because I think it is dumb and should be free anyways as a feature of the phone so I refuse to pay for that service. I have ATT.

chase10784 said:
Does this method show as you using hot spot and they charge you for using it? I have the unlimited data plan but I am not paying the extra for the hotspot feature because I think it is dumb and should be free anyways as a feature of the phone so I refuse to pay for that service. I have ATT.
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Nope! I've been doing this for over a year now, and I've never gotten any notice, warning, or anything from AT&T. I use AT LEAST 100GB of data every month, and several months I've used over 200GB. They haven't charged me a dime even though I'm not supposed to have the hotspot with my unlimited data plan! And I don't use a VPN or anything...

ldog3211 said:
Nope! I've been doing this for over a year now, and I've never gotten any notice, warning, or anything from AT&T. I use AT LEAST 100GB of data every month, and several months I've used over 200GB. They haven't charged me a dime even though I'm not supposed to have the hotspot with my unlimited data plan! And I don't use a VPN or anything...
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Well cool. I got it to work. I haven't had much time to test it but it seems great.

On Verizon s8 anyone figure out how to get this working. Can't find app "TetheringProvision" or anything similar to disable on my VZ s8 phone.
I found "TetheringAutomation", and "com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice" and disabled. It still checks subscription and fails.
Thanks!

Solution: Switch to Tmobile

Yianaki said:
On Verizon s8 anyone figure out how to get this working. Can't find app "TetheringProvision" or anything similar to disable on my VZ s8 phone.
I found "TetheringAutomation", and "com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice" and disabled. It still checks subscription and fails.
Thanks!
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You can get your hotspot working by popping sim tray, unlock phone, open up stopwatch, insert sim tray and start stopwatch at the same time, when the stopwatch hits 8 seconds turn on hotspot from the pull down menu.
I know it takes some work but works every time for me. I will try to post a video for anyone who wants. Working on my verizon s8+. Thanks!

jtracker said:
You can get your hotspot working by popping sim tray, unlock phone, open up stopwatch, insert sim tray and start stopwatch at the same time, when the stopwatch hits 8 seconds turn on hotspot from the pull down menu.
I know it takes some work but works every time for me. I will try to post a video for anyone who wants. Working on my verizon s8+. Thanks!
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I thought for sure that this was going to be a joke to see how long I would sit there popping my sim and launching apps and such, but WOW.
It actually worked on my third attempt ( VZ S8+)
Thanks again for posting this!:good:

Too easy I just went to Settings > Apps clicked the
overflow menu to show system apps and forced stop tetheringprovision and tetheringautomation. I also disabled tethering provision's access to change system settings.
My hotspot worked right away I'm on ATT UDP

has this stopped working after the lastest ATT update