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http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/28/t-mobile-gs-ii-isis-update/
Isis available on T-mobile galaxy SII
What exactly is it?
AT&T's version of Google Wallet.
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I'd rather have Google wallet, Isis apparently has processing fees when you use it
Another way to make money off of you
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Well in that case, ewww
I keep waiting for isis to die a horrible death.
Looks like it's confirmed: http://www.mastercard-mobilepartner.com/docs/MasterCard_Approved_Mobile_Devices.pdf
The US HTC One X is listed on the second page with Isis support (international version gets Google Wallet).
Dumb question, but does the international version already support Google wallet?
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GuyIncognito721 said:
Dumb question, but does the international version already support Google wallet?
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Yes.
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paulbh said:
Looks like it's confirmed: http://www.mastercard-mobilepartner.com/docs/MasterCard_Approved_Mobile_Devices.pdf
The US HTC One X is listed on the second page with Isis support (international version gets Google Wallet).
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Couldn't care less either way. Storing sensitive financial info on your phone is a dumb idea, particularly on a rooted phone which is about a secure as a laptop connected directly to the Internet with an administrator account enabled and secured with the password 'password'. I am no privacy freak or security nut but taking that kind of risk with your phone particularly in the absence of a legal framework to protect you is nuts. I already have an NFC payment system, it is called a credit card and takes about the same time to pull out of my pocket as my phone. And when it breaks I can get a brand new one for free in 24 hrs.
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Couldn't care less either way. Storing sensitive financial info on your phone is a dumb idea, particularly on a rooted phone which is about a secure as a laptop connected directly to the Internet with an administrator account enabled and secured with the password 'password'. I am no privacy freak or security nut but taking that kind of risk with your phone particularly in the absence of a legal framework to protect you is nuts. I already have an NFC payment system, it is called a credit card and takes about the same time to pull out of my pocket as my phone. And when it breaks I can get a brand new one for free in 24 hrs.
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Putting something as simple as a screen lock on your phone can fix these security issues, a simple app the can remotely wipe your phone can also assure no lost credentials or even track down the phone!
Using a superuser/supersu app with a pin to grant superuser permissions helps too
A lost credit/debit card on the other hand can lead to all kinds of problems until you know its gone and you need to call and report it stolen
By then its possible someone could be buying themselves some new toys
I'd rather carry my ID and my phone around instead of my phone, ID, credit cards, debit cards, and cash
Just my two cents
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I have a question for the experts. My company email server forces security policies to my phone so that I HAVE to have a pin code to unlock it, it is annoying. When I rooted my phone and installed Vipers ROM I was able to get it set up without the security settings forcing me to do the pin code.
On any AOSP ROMs when I enter the settings it forces me to set up the pin code. I no likey sense ROMs so how do I turn off the stupid pin code? Anyone? $10 PayPal bounty to the first person who can tell me how.
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839514
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839514
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I'm such a goon. Can someone move this or should I repost in the correct place?
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I'm such a goon. Can someone move this or should I repost in the correct place?
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Moving it now.
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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
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I'm really interested in this too. Face unlock or pattern does just fine
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So I went back to Viper XL ROM (sense ROM) and it does not force me to add a lock code like aosp email does. I know my company email server forces out the security policy, but why does Sense get around it somehow, and aosp doesn't? $10 bounty still applies. Paypal immediately......
smolck said:
So I went back to Viper XL ROM (sense ROM) and it does not force me to add a lock code like aosp email does. I know my company email server forces out the security policy, but why does Sense get around it somehow, and aosp doesn't? $10 bounty still applies. Paypal immediately......
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There are various hacks and patches floating around that I've seen. I haven't tried this but it appears to work for some people:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965468
Another one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367254
The Search function here does work, by the way.
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The Search function here does work, by the way.
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Geez, I never thought of that before........
I just noticed that Walgreens is not activating any of their nfc payment systems because of security issues and just today I found out that wawa gas stations no longer have them due to some type of issues they were having with malware with their system. Seems more companies are discontinuing their use over setting the systems up.
I hope they get this supposed security problem figured out soon. I love using my phone to pay.
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yankees45us said:
I just noticed that Walgreens is not activating any of their nfc payment systems because of security issues and just today I found out that wawa gas stations no longer have them due to some type of issues they were having with malware with their system. Seems more companies are discontinuing their use over setting the systems up.
I hope they get this supposed security problem figured out soon. I love using my phone to pay.
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This was only ever a pipe dream to be honest. Too many ways it can be hacked, far too insecure for real world use.
Far, far too unsafe for public use. You can hack it with stickers for goodness sake.
Not to mention, people are far too moronic in the way and guard they use their phones to make this work. On an average day at Uni, I see about 200 phones I could nick without them noticing it. And consequentially use to pay for anything, because apparently people are not smart enough to realize that a pattern lock leaves a fingertrail. And their code is pretty much always a date of relevance. Which they've undoubtably mentioned somewhere on their Facebook.
I don't think the reason is security on the phone but on the unit in the store. The phone itself is more secure than using a debit card. If someone steals your card they are able to use it at most stores without ever being asked for id. My phone not only has a passcode but once you try to use the wallet app it asks for another code. Overall I think the security issue is with the store and if that can be resolved nfc payments can continue.
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This was only ever a pipe dream to be honest. Too many ways it can be hacked, far too insecure for real world use.
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When you say hacked, do you mean the phone or the unit at the store?
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ShadowLea said:
Far, far too unsafe for public use. You can hack it with stickers for goodness sake.
Not to mention, people are far too moronic in the way and guard they use their phones to make this work. On an average day at Uni, I see about 200 phones I could nick without them noticing it. And consequentially use to pay for anything, because apparently people are not smart enough to realize that a pattern lock leaves a fingertrail. And their code is pretty much always a date of relevance. Which they've undoubtably mentioned somewhere on their Facebook.
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I love people who speak with authority about things they clearly know nothing about. "Hack it with stickers"? You're delusional.
Mobile NFC payments are far more secure than any other form of physical payment.
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I love people who speak with authority about things they clearly know nothing about. "Hack it with stickers"? You're delusional.
Mobile NFC payments are far more secure than any other form of physical payment.
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I'd be a little more convinced if your name wasn't "LoveNFC".
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I'd be a little more convinced if your name wasn't "LoveNFC".
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If you could provide details about how a sticker can hack nfc then maybe you could have a point. But as far as all the research I have done nfc payments are more secure than paying with a debit card.
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yankees45us said:
If you could provide details about how a sticker can hack nfc then maybe you could have a point. But as far as all the research I have done nfc payments are more secure than paying with a debit card.
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Because the NFC tag can be set to many things like storing and sending the info used to pay. And it doesnt take much to reprogram the tag, They are about as safe as a debt card which we all know is not 100%
zelendel said:
Because the NFC tag can be set to many things like storing and sending the info used to pay. And it doesnt take much to reprogram the tag, They are about as safe as a debt card which we all know is not 100%
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What tag are you talking about. The phones use an nfc chip and the stores use an nfc system. No one uses a sticker. The stickers your talking about are the ones sold that can let you perform tasks on your phone. What do they have to do with making secure payments from the phone.
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yankees45us said:
What tag are you talking about. The phones use an nfc chip and the stores use an nfc system. No one uses a sticker. The stickers your talking about are the ones sold that can let you perform tasks on your phone. What do they have to do with making secure payments from the phone.
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Its the Same tech. I installed these in a few stores and saw how easy it would be to allow it to be reprogrammed.
That's why just like if you see a weird looking atm and don't use it you should not use an nfc scanner. Plus you can tell if their is some weird sticker on the nfc scanner. And this proves again that using your phone is not unsecure it's the system that is at the store that can be compromised by idiots. Plus if your Google wallet app doesn't activate after swiping then that should be an indication of something going wrong. Plus those nfc task stickers do not have access to the Google wallet app. So what your saying is flawed and not the reason why stores are removing the units. I think the units are being tampered with by people or the store employees and stores don't want to deal with this. With updated nfc systems this security issue can be resolved. It's just a matter if this makes money for Google. If it doesn't they will just scrap it
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ShadowLea said:
Far, far too unsafe for public use. You can hack it with stickers for goodness sake.
Not to mention, people are far too moronic in the way and guard they use their phones to make this work. On an average day at Uni, I see about 200 phones I could nick without them noticing it. And consequentially use to pay for anything, because apparently people are not smart enough to realize that a pattern lock leaves a fingertrail. And their code is pretty much always a date of relevance. Which they've undoubtably mentioned somewhere on their Facebook.
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Just found out there's a new more secure nfc payment system. Saw it for the first time at toysrus. The swipe area for nfc payments is built in right to the touchscreen where you would enter prompts. This is a lot more secure and a solution to all these so called sticker problems. No one can put a sticker on the screen as it will block everyone from using it. Hopefully nfc payments get back on track. Just used mine at cvs and McDonald's
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Hey, guys
I am Android developer & recently I have launched an app which Intelligently locks & Unlocks your device using various sensors.
The name of app is Cover Algorithm.
Edit: Now, name changed to Automaton.
So, I wanted to design my app to use special /extra Sensors like Infra-red, proximity, etc.
So, I need to help of S4 users / developers to find any way to use those sensors programmatically to make my app better.
This thread will help all, possibility to use S4 sensors in CyanogenMod & lot more
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Waiting for reply guys
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This is interesting. Brainstorming Is needed to help out
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Samsung probably have APIs for those sensors...
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theo80 said:
Samsung probably have APIs for those sensors...
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I had searched their dev site.
But, didn't found anything.
Would be great if they have or release API for it.
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Hi, from a developer point of view do you think the app will be commercially viable?
Since it will cauwe so many battery drains
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Shake it, baby!
I think I could use a "shake-to-lock" feature as well a "hold X button & shake-to-unlock" feature when the phone is locked using a password, a pin or even a pattern.
Just my 2c...
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Hi, from a developer point of view do you think the app will be commercially viable?
Since it will cauwe so many battery drains
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Yep, did you tried my app it doesn't even consume any battery.
So, why can't this
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msxDr0id said:
I think I could use a "shake-to-lock" feature as well a "hold X button & shake-to-unlock" feature when the phone is locked using a password, a pin or even a pattern.
Just my 2c...
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Thanks, the first feature is already present just the 2nd is great idea.
Thanks for your idea.
Just, post your real name. So, that I could add it in credits when my app will that 2nd feature you said.
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Don't make it obvious
No prob, enjoy
What I do really believe is that the unlock feature shouldn't be noted anywhere as it would totally invalidate the locking feature itself, it has to be the owner's 'little secret'!
Cheers.
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No prob, enjoy
What I do really believe is that the unlock feature shouldn't be noted anywhere as it would totally invalidate the locking feature itself, it has to be the owner's 'little secret'!
Cheers.
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Cool, but the users wouldn't get it.
Maybe, you could suggest some other way.
Now, we are going off topic
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interesting , something like 3 waves unlocks s4, and 2 shows info
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offdotba said:
interesting , something like 3 waves unlocks s4, and 2 shows info
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Soon, to be implemented
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interesting , something like 3 waves unlocks s4, and 2 shows info
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For that combo I want to see a droid doing a fatality to a bitten apple, lol!
I don't know, something simple like the droid burning the apple with his laser sight and the apple turning into a roasted one like those from the fairs and carnivals :victory:
Yeah, something simple... XD
@akshay:
"Cool, but the users wouldn't get it.
Maybe, you could suggest some other way.
Now, we are going off topic"
That's precisely the point!
The owner of the phone should be the ONLY ONE to know that an alternate unlock method is available, if somebody else knows about it... well.. PUFF! the surprise/cloak factor goes away
So, if you are the owner of the phone or tablet and along the normal locking methods (pattern, pwd, pin) you decide to implement this alternate, quick unlock method we can safely assume that you know what you're doing and in the event you forget the keys combination for the quick unlock you can always unlock your device the traditional way
In fact, the alternate, quick unlock method should be used when alone or with the people you care and you should rigorously stick with the traditional unlock method in front of strangers.
Call me paranoid but I believe I'm just cautious.
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MOREOVER: you must bear in mind that if you ultimately develop this feature then is matter of time that it's getting noticed so you need to find a *perfect blend* (nothing less) between security & usability, something that sounds easy when thinking in loud voice but starts getting complex once you start to draw on the board.
If the person that got your gadget happens to know about this type of secondary-unlock method he/she can easily try some combinations to unlock the phone.
Just take your time to analyze what could be the best way to implement it
msxDr0id said:
For that combo I want to see a droid doing a fatality to a bitten apple, lol!
I don't know, something simple like the droid burning the apple with his laser sight and the apple turning into a roasted one like those from the fairs and carnivals :victory:
Yeah, something simple... XD
@akshay:
"Cool, but the users wouldn't get it.
Maybe, you could suggest some other way.
Now, we are going off topic"
That's precisely the point!
The owner of the phone should be the ONLY ONE to know that an alternate unlock method is available, if somebody else knows about it... well.. PUFF! the surprise/cloak factor goes away
So, if you are the owner of the phone or tablet and along the normal locking methods (pattern, pwd, pin) you decide to implement this alternate, quick unlock method we can safely assume that you know what you're doing and in the event you forget the keys combination for the quick unlock you can always unlock your device the traditional way
In fact, the alternate, quick unlock method should be used when alone or with the people you care and you should rigorously stick with the traditional unlock method in front of strangers.
Call me paranoid but I believe I'm just cautious.
---------- Post added at 12:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:11 PM ----------
MOREOVER: you must bear in mind that if you ultimately develop this feature then is matter of time that it's getting noticed so you need to find a *perfect blend* (nothing less) between security & usability, something that sounds easy when thinking in loud voice but starts getting complex once you start to draw on the board.
If the person that got your gadget happens to know about this type of secondary-unlock method he/she can easily try some combinations to unlock the phone.
Just take your time to analyze what could be the best way to implement it
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I can try to implement the feature you want. Actually, I tried it.
The shake to lock & shake + key to unlock.
Privacy Factor :
The user of the device will only know that feature as he will be the one using the app.
I tried of using Power key but I failed maybe I should try more to use it. But, I can try using other keys like volume, menu key, etc.
I think of keeping an option to change the key according to the user opinion & key availability on device.
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Hey, guys
Doesn't any one know how to use those sensors ???
Would be really helpful.
Hi,
I noticed today that I can unlock my EU S8+ using any finger in under 10 attempts. Only 3 fingerprints are registered.
The fingerprint scanner can't be that insecure surley?
Anyone else find it that easy to bypass?
No, mine only unlocks with the fingers I have registered
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Dra444 said:
No, mine only unlocks with the fingers I have registered
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Same after 5 attempts it asks for pin in my setup
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Swizzle Firma said:
Hi,
I noticed today that I can unlock my EU S8+ using any finger in under 10 attempts. Only 3 fingerprints are registered.
The fingerprint scanner can't be that insecure surely?
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You must have duplicate fingerprints on those other fingers... which is impossible, but the only explanation for what you are describing.
And don't call me Shirley.
https://youtu.be/KM2K7sV-K74
If you have smart lock enabled you'll see this behavior. I just reproduced this while my device was location smart unlocked. It doesn't occur when the device isn't unlocked from smart lock
I have no Smart Lock enabled.
Swizzle Firma said:
I have no Smart Lock enabled.
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Did you buy this phone used?
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I saw a video of a fake Galaxy S8+ that had a fake fingerprint scanner that only pretended to secure the device but worked with anyone's finger....
Your device is fake
u got fake device... try unlocking with elephants finger,,, phone will unlock surely....
Does the box say 5am5ung instead of Samsung?
Seems like you got a faulty piece
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
What does this app say about your phone?
Hmmmm
Heh, not, it's not a fake phone. Was bought new, sim free directly from Samsung
No but seriously, delete your fingerprints that are registered and re-register them. Maybe you had some fault reads 1st pass around.
Hi.
I had the same problem. I could unlock my wifes phone 2 times but only 2 of her fingers are registered. Brand new original Samsung. This really shocked me.
I have been told...lol
That how these systems work is to convert your bodies fingerprint basically into electric energy and then a form of binary code
So if its anything like this It is actually a really insecure system in the means electrical resistance and such as it dont actually read your fingerprint pattern but just converts the ridges and valleys into a electrical signal.....
Its supposed to be more secure than short passwords but still easily circumvented...
As this is not the same type of fingerprint scanner they use to book you at the polices station which does scan the images of your print......
I may be blowin smoke but across many pages of reading this is the conclusion I have come to
This explains some of it
https://www.androidauthority.com/how-fingerprint-scanners-work-670934/