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This is more of a question or suggestion for developers. I've always had this thought and wondered why no one has implemented it yet? The big deal lately is all around Android Tablets, so I ask myself, why doesn't someone develop an accessory that turns any Android phone into a tablet. Ok, here's what I mean, I have an HTC Evo and love the phone, but oft times I find myself wanting the new Galaxy Tab by Samsung. Then when I think of it, the Galaxy Tab is basically a phone with a bigger screen. So why can someone design and sell a multi-touch screen that has a slot and connectors on the back that I could slid in my Evo and everything that would appear on my Evo's screen now appears on the larger screen. Now my Evo is a Tablet with all the access to the all the apps and functionality of the phone, it's just using a bigger screen.
The external screen would also have to contain a front camera but could use the rear camera and flash LEDs of the EVO if you left them exposed. Another option would be to include a battery in the larger screen for longer battery life.
What do you thing?
Good idea. Doubt any manufacturers would pick it up because then they wouldn't be able to sell you the same device twice. No chance of any 3rd party manufacturers picking it because of a lack of required output/input on devices.
I had the same exact idea 2day! I really want to do this for myself. Is there a way to just connect a touch screen (to display and control) to my phone via Bluetooth or the MicroUsb?
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I had the same exact idea 2day! I really want to do this for myself. Is there a way to just connect a touch screen (to display and control) to my phone via Bluetooth or the MicroUsb?
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Google did it with the giant Nexus S display, but it wasn't accurate at all.
lol.. Why is this so hard to do..
lol I think the problem is how to connect the phone to the said screen? For one the micro USB port placements are not the same for all androids, so slotting is out of the question.
Im not really concerned with the mounting of a screen to my phone, ill use duck tape if i have to.. ha. But in all seriousness a simple universal enclosure can also be made..
I like the idea of having a tablet.. but don't want to spend almost 500 for a larger version of my phone..
A friend of mine told me he saw on someone else's computer he found an interesting chinise accesory: it's like a dummy tablet 10.1" where you insert or plugin your Samsung Galaxy S2 and convert it into a Full operational Tablet.
He couldn't precise the brand, link, etc or if the cellphone used was in fact a Samsung Galaxy S2.
I'll do some research. At the moment I found this :
Since I cannot paste the link here, just copy and google this: "asus-unveils-padfone-mobile-convert-tablet"
Interesting concept!
I've been perusing inventory for import products. While I hate the name and look of the devices they are cheap,powerful, and easily accessible. has any one looked at the specs or done any work with them? Id love to have a custom Rom set up if I do pick up some. Right now single units are going pretty cheap on eBay. And has any one thought about the cheap dual camera 3G touch screen 7mp 1ghz GSM+WCDMA freaking phones avail for import.....wish I would of seen those first before buying up my current phones. Thanks guys looking forward to cooking up some roms
They come with the work full hdmi, Ethernet, webcam, dual microSD up to 64g, gps, and the list goes on lol I know I'm putting my order in and reading up. Cya guys
I am one of the donkey in a small company working to develop our first android tablet with dual screen.
S\dince this will be our first flagship android device, we would like to make sure our device match the needs of our future customer.
It will be a 7" dual screen device as title stated.
The machine is planned to be
- Dual core CPU, for instance by Samsung
- 512MB DDR3 and 1GB SLC
- dual touch on both screen
- swappable battery
- back-flipping screen
- 5/8Mpixel camera and 720p camcoder
- target to sell around 450usd
- target to weight 700g less
We love to hear from our customer, as we did for all our other products. Please feel free to comment, or simply kick my ass if you totally disagree with the concept, we are more than happy to have our ass kicked in order to prevent making a device no one will buy.
Is it two 7 inch screens? Or two 3.5 inch screens?
Does it close in the same way as the DS, so both screens are facing each other?
Could be a great concept. A tablet that fits in your pocket.
it should be 2 7" screen, we take consideration of cost, weight, and usability, since it is a 360 back-flipping machine, there is no concept of "closing" it, it can be both facing in, or both facing out.
Sorry folks if it's just me being particularly dumb. But I'm not getting it.
It it like the screen on the Dell Inspiron Duo? Are the screens on a swivel so one can face the back?
Have you got a link to something similar?
love the idea. That price range would be perfect too. I would be looking for one that can make phone calls too.
Being able to make phone calls is the deal breaker for me. Don't know why more tablets can do this.
And your device should be 8mp at least. 5 is too little for a high end device now a days.
Personally I love this idea!
If you have to cut corners, cut on the camera. 5/8 mp on a dualscreen tablet is not necessary at all. Take the iPad route to save money, go with a cheaper camera.
Some phones have more RAM than 512MB, so if this is a tablet ideally youd want more than that
Thanks a lot for the reply.
Seems there is no similar one in the market. Think of a door that can be push or pull 360 degree.
A 5MP is costing less then the dual core, but 8MP seems out of budget, we can even support up to 12MP, but the point is the image quality.
Yes it has 3G, HSPA+, can dial, as a speaker phone, and connects to headset. We are trying to make a all in one tablet for sure.
We think 512MB suits the current needs, considering my X10i has never less than 80MB free. More ram means more current draw.
Not knocking the idea, I'm just interested if anyone has any ideas on what uses a dual screen device like this would have? Smaller size for mobility is one, but I'm looking for usage ideas. How would you use the two screens effectively/differently than a single screen?
Watching a video on one screen, while doing something productive on the other, would that be possible?
Keep in mind that your device should be competitively priced to sell well. Look at the asus transformer. Selling like hot cakes.
Personally, the idea of it isn't terrible but I don't think I would use it. It's not something I want in a phone.
I think I owe everyone a thanks. So here it is
@dquille there are many usage in a dual screen device, social sharing is one, multi-tasking is two, some little more piracy maybe, all depends on how you use it, just like single vs dual core CPU.
@Zaigham it can be done, but personally I dont think anyone can work like this, my example will be, say, reading a excel file while typing message? But we look on social sharing more, you will see what we are talking when more information can be given.
@DPMAce yes we totally understand this point, but thats too early for us
@vbetts thanks for the info, in my opinion phone is secondary nowadays
http://techinstyle.tv/20122723801/post-types/news/the-asus-padfone-one-device-to-rule-them-all/
News on the planned release of the Asus Padfone. As a Transformer Prime owner, I am already drooling at the prospect of getting one of these in the future. One device that has all areas covered? Didn't think it would take this long!
Sorry if there are already posts about this, this is just the latest stuff I have seen.
Yes this look awesome and I believe the phones pretty good too.
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I've been doing searches every week for any new info, so this is a pretty fun day for me. Unless I'm reading wrong, I see T-Mobile frequencies on this phone - so unless the price is off the charts I can easily see buying one off contract.
The stylus idea (a pen/headset combo) is an interesting idea, since an early question was what do you do when you get a call when the fone is in the tablet. Speakerphone? Bluetooth headset? Now you have this in a pinch. Only thing I haven't seen in video - does the pen slide into the tablet when not in use?
Specs are not quite as high as I originally hoped for, but I think good enough. Battery charging (tablet & keyboard charge the phone) is awesome! If it (as it looks) can use my original Transformer keyboard, even better.
About the only other expected issue will be weight. If it's at all close to the original Transformer weight (with phone in), I'll be fine.
Oh - video also looks like you can somehow have 2 home screen layouts. Would like to see a sample of a screen with some widgets on it on the fone, then docked to see what it looks like on the tablet.
..and a release date Saw April mentioned a few places.
The only thing i see wrong is that the screen (on the phone?) is not 720P and that if you lose or break your phone you are SOL
i really like the concept of this as well.
i wonder if it will be popular enough to get some awesome custom roms
I love this combo. I might have to drop the $$$ for this outright. I hope other manufacturers get on the bang wagon as well!
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I really like this concept and hopefully it won't be too expensive!
One concern I got though: Would it be very difficult to bring roms to this device, considering it would have to support both mobile and tablet mode?
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Only thing I haven't seen in video - does the pen slide into the tablet when not in use?
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If you look at the "Design" button on the Asus PadFone Landing Page (asus[dot]com/Mobile/PadFone/), they talk about the sleeve that sounds like it'll come with the PadFone that has a brand tag that doubles as a stylus holder (if you've used the Wacom Bamboo Tablet, I'd imagine it's something similar to the red tag on the side of that). The site also mentions that the tablet will buzz to let you know if you're leaving your stylus behind. That sound like such a great and simple solution to people always worrying about losing their stylus...es... styli... Never had to pluralize that before.
Thanks for the link - I hadn't checked the official site in quite a while. Would be funny to have a popup if you left the stylus behind with some sort of Microsoft-Paper-Clip like animation showing a sad stylus on the screen
Looking over the bands & trying to google answers, but looking at what they show:
3G :
WCDMA :
900/2100
2G :
EDGE/GPRS/GSM : 850/900/1800/1900
Doesn't that make it good for both AT&T and T-Mobile?
it says the display is 4.3
what about the softkeys? are they withIN the 4,3 or is it 4,3 + softkeys???
Wow, this seems sort of innovative but... I don't know.. sort of odd lol
Definitely looking forward to maybe seeing more of it though as I am definitely interested in this.
I like the concept. I'm just not so keen on carrying a tablet shell. Or about the Tegra 3.
Throw in a keyboard dock then it's more pleasing.
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The different way using the tablet and phone. Cool
The Tegra 3 is a very good chip, we have to remember that optimisation is only going to get better for it and Nvidia aren't a company that does things by half. I'm pretty sure they know just how lucrative the mobile market is, and with Windows 8 coming want to get the ball rolling fast.
As for carrying around the tablet, I don't see it as much of a problem, you don't have to carry it all the time, I think that's the whole point with it tbh. Would love to see some prices though, and definitely see a some tests on the phone itself.
4.3" is my favourite size for a screen, but with soft buttons on top of that it might seem a tiny bit cramped, I'm just glad its not some note worthy 4.7" behemoth!
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The Tegra 3 is a very good chip
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That's as may be, but the Padfone has a dual-core Snapdragon S4. Don't worry, in many use cases it is faster than Tegra 3 and we do not know about battery life of either with just a small smartphone battery.
4.3" is my favourite size for a screen, but with soft buttons on top of that it might seem a tiny bit cramped, I'm just glad its not some note worthy 4.7" behemoth!
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That confuses me a bit - the Galaxy Nexus has 4.65" and soft keys - giving it around 4.3" usable area in most situations, and you call that a behemoth? But at 4.3" with probably around 4" usable area in most situations you call it cramped? What would be the ideal size then? Or do you just hate soft keys? I like them.
This combo has certainly peaked my interest.. looking to see it in the flesh firstly though
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Thanks for the link - I hadn't checked the official site in quite a while. Would be funny to have a popup if you left the stylus behind with some sort of Microsoft-Paper-Clip like animation showing a sad stylus on the screen
Looking over the bands & trying to google answers, but looking at what they show:
3G :
WCDMA :
900/2100
2G :
EDGE/GPRS/GSM : 850/900/1800/1900
Doesn't that make it good for both AT&T and T-Mobile?
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It will work on AT&T and T-Mobile on 2G.
For 3G, it doesn't have T-Mobile or AT&T's 3G bands. Therefore, you will be stuck to EDGE speeds.
It is only logical to present the european version of the device with european frequencies at a european show! For the US, there will surely be carrier specific variants, maybe a bit later.
do you guys think there will be enoiugh iinterest to get some of XDA's awesome developers to develop custom ROMS for this phone ?
i am really interested in this as well since i have no tablet. But since i wanna use the phone without the station as well, i really need some more tests showing just the power/useage of the phone itself.
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do you guys think there will be enoiugh iinterest to get some of XDA's awesome developers to develop custom ROMS for this phone ?
i am really interested in this as well since i have no tablet. But since i wanna use the phone without the station as well, i really need some more tests showing just the power/useage of the phone itself.
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Almost certainly, depending on price this could be a very popular device even if it is dual core.
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I would like to get some opinion from you guys....
I am a startup developing a new kind of mobile device that combines a phone and tablet - putting a 7" screen on a less than 5" phone body. (It is not like the Galaxy Note, where the size is fixed.)
SO when you just want to make calls, check SMS and emails, just use the "phone mode" with a 4"+ screen.
When you want to surf web, watch videos/photos, transform it into a 7"-screen tablet.
Now my question is about the potential market for this device, as it seems that no company is creating a device like this, I am worried if there's no market for it.
a) For those of you carrying two devices (a phone and a tablet), are you feeling a bit inconvenient, annd would you like to have this device?
b) For those of you carrying only a phone, would you like to have a bigger screen, perhaps 7", while retaining the same portability?
c) Would you still buy a 10" tablet after you have this device? (assuming you already have a laptop)
Your help will be very much appreciated!
the first thing that came to mind upon reading this post is the asus padfone.
i do carry the 2 devices (S2 + TF101), and IMO it isn't really a big inconvenience, thus i might not be that interested. Unless it comes with a unique feature / selling point?
cheers.
if the tablet could make calls and i could pair a Bluetooth headset to it, i would get it. maybe it would stop me from texting and driving if it was 10 inch
I see no market for it. Some will buy it for what it is but not enough to make profit or even break even. Try focussing resources on let's say the body of the Droid Razr with an edge to edge screen, custom ROM that gets rid of the touch buttons of the bottom of the device so that can be more room for screen. I would buy something like that.
Or how about a smart-watch that can sync with any tablet to become a secondary display.
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Didn't they already do this? And if I recall it kinda flopped... Not being negative, but I think people are used to carrying around a bunch of gadgets...
deliriume said:
the first thing that came to mind upon reading this post is the asus padfone.
i do carry the 2 devices (S2 + TF101), and IMO it isn't really a big inconvenience, thus i might not be that interested. Unless it comes with a unique feature / selling point?
cheers.
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Thanks for your reply.
There are some aspects of Padfone that we don't think it will be a market success:
1. You still need to carry the 10" screen, and it is not as portable as a 4+" phone 2. When the phone is inside tablet, you'll need a headset to receive and make calls
Anyway our product is not in compete with padfone, although we have something in common - to combine devices from different categories. The key difference, besides the size, is that we emphasize on PORTABILITY; while they probably emphasize on versatile performance.
Our device is small and light and easily slip into pocket, yet comes with a beautiful 7" screen.
BTW, we think the combination of devices (our device + laptop/ultrabook) is more reasonable than (Padfone + laptop/ultrabook), because Padfone size is already very similar to laptop, and almost everyone already has a laptop.
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Didn't they already do this? And if I recall it kinda flopped... Not being negative, but I think people are used to carrying around a bunch of gadgets...
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Thanks for your feedback!
Do you mean Sony's Tablet P?
However, since there is a bezel between the two screens, it cannot be seen as a one screen tablet when unfolded. In fact this is one of the main reason why it gets poor reviews and market reactions (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-21/what-was-sony-thinking-with-tablet-p-rich-jaroslovsky.html). The bezel is simply annoying.
Our startup have found a way to remove the bezel.
Yes people now used to carry around many gadgets, because currently we have no choice
I love the idea of the padfone...4 inch phone during the day, 10 inch phone when at home.
If you have something to offer please let me know, as of know i am seriously looking at the padfone to be my next phone.
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I love the idea of the padfone!
bigboxrate said:
Maybe this one can be a good choice for you if you do not mind using big screen to make telephone calls.
http://www.tinydeal.com/7-pxp7fh-p-39587.html
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800 mhz and 256 ram, gross...
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Good Stuff....Thanks
Tablet s Phone
I really dont understand why Tablets dont incorporate phones, I own a Dell Streak Mini 5, (best phone Ive ever owned) also a sony tablet s.
Both brilliant devices but most of the pros are duplicated by one or the other,
Dell streak, android device, good general purpose but screen too small for word processing or watching vids, not to mention the small onscreen keybord.
Tablet s, android device, good for all things android but no phone.
I dont follow the logic that there would be no market for a tablet device with a phone, I carry a phone and I carry a tablet I would far rather only carry one, i.e. the tablet with a phone in it, I use a blue tooth earpiece for all my phone/music/audio books so its not as if Ive got it stuck to my ear all the time, in fact the phone never comes out unless i want to use an app.
So the answer for me is a resounding YES device of that nature.
This is a great idea. Today's smartphones have all this horsepower but what good is it if the tiny screens make it a chore to get anything done. I'm having difficulty imagining how one would go about incorporating an additional big screen on a phone, but if you can do a clean job at it, I believe it will be success. By clean, I mean the screens should be good quality either glass or matte, not some flimsy folding ****.
noobletsausecakebbq said:
This is a great idea. Today's smartphones have all this horsepower but what good is it if the tiny screens make it a chore to get anything done. I'm having difficulty imagining how one would go about incorporating an additional big screen on a phone, but if you can do a clean job at it, I believe it will be success. By clean, I mean the screens should be good quality either glass or matte, not some flimsy folding ****.
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Yes we are not using folding screens.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note exactly for this reason.
The screen is big enough for non-phone usage but small
enough to fit inside a pocket to carry around like you would
carry around a phone. It's already 5.4" so 7" is not that much
larger, you'd better have a real compelling reason for your
device in order to convince people who would otherwise
pick the Note.
Cool Idea
I don't know of your resource base, but have you seen the new translucent material they have demoed for new tablets. That would make your product something that would stand apart. They demoed the material at one of the electronic shows this year.
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I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note exactly for this reason.
The screen is big enough for non-phone usage but small
enough to fit inside a pocket to carry around like you would
carry around a phone. It's already 5.4" so 7" is not that much
larger, you'd better have a real compelling reason for your
device in order to convince people who would otherwise
pick the Note.
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Yup! Ive had my g2 since the day it came out. The two devices im looking at is the padfone or the galaxy note. Im on tmobile usa so hooping one will get 4G sometime this summer. August is my upgrade month
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I don't know of your resource base, but have you seen the new translucent material they have demoed for new tablets. That would make your product something that would stand apart. They demoed the material at one of the electronic shows this year.
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No, we are using standard touchscreens...
I think you will have a harder time distinguishing yourself from the padfone since it is out now.