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[Q] Phone to Tablet MOD

Ok, i've search abit on the forum and did not find an exact match to what i want to know
anywho the question is following:
I have htc touch cruise and nokia 5800 xpress music (i really hate the last one )
Im getting something better soon and both mentioned phones have damaged screens.
I was worndering if it is possible to maybe remove completely the old screens and to put there new touchscreens but much bigger sizes. I was thinking to use something like 7" touchscree and to use the modded phone in my car as GPS Player and maybe even a phone or just to have some internet access on it for radio streaming
So is it possible at all? dont care about casing or how it is going to look i have that figured out and have a friend who can produce a very nice case of my design. the powersupply and etc is not an issue either. the most importan is HOW if AT ALL possible connect a bigger touch screen to either of these phones.

First problem first.... power. Your phone will most likely not support the current drain from the larger screen, but I'm sure you will be able to supplement the power from the car. Next, screen drivers... The Android OS embeds the necessary drivers, but do not include drivers for every screen on the market. If you know how to cook your own ROM, I believe it will be possible to buy a screen for an HTC or similar tablet, then extract the driver from that phone's ROM and inject it into your new modded ROM. Sounds easy enough? hehe, good luck, I really do hope you are good at Linux and Android dev for this to work, and I wish you the best of luck, I think it will make an awesome CARPC project!!

Help me choose a tablet?

I have been searching but sites don't give much details.
My friend has a A500 and another has an Asus and they both have poor touch sensors, when selecting a word when typing it chooses the 4th word instead of the 3rd for example.
So I am looking for an Android tablet with a good sensor.
Dont care to wait for a Tegra 3.
My requirements in order of importance:
Very good touch sensor.
Needs HDMI out and 2 USB. for keyboard, mouse/controller and TV out.
10" screen.
Available to have Android updates either through being Rooted or not if possible.
Headphone out.
non-pentile screen.
things I dont care about:
Hardware keyboard
Software UI mods and additional apps
Camera
Sim card
removable SD card
overall size and weight

I think the word selection is a problem on most honeycomb tablets. I myself have a transformer and i mean maybe once every few weeks the touch sensor doesn't work but you just turn the screen on and off and it's fixed. The TF/Prim has hdmi and and you get USB with the keyboard dock. I would highly suggest you wait and pick up a Prime assuming they didn't go the route as later transformers and lock them down. But anywho Asus has proven they are good on updates

Dark lord me said:
I think the word selection is a problem on most honeycomb tablets. I myself have a transformer and i mean maybe once every few weeks the touch sensor doesn't work but you just turn the screen on and off and it's fixed.
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I had this on my Nexus One, it drove me crazy for a long time always having to turn the screen off constantly when using it at certain angles, sounds like a hardware problem, I wouldnt be surprised if Asus and Acer get their touch sensors from the same company.

Well with me it's a "ohh it will only take 10 seconds" really it doesn't take that long

I don't like any of the tabs out right now that most can buy, I would say the 10.1 seems like the best. I think the 8.9 could be better, but I have not tryed it yet. I would wait for the prime if you can.

i recommend these two to u, my brother decides to buy a tablet, too. These two are his results of searching. He will buy either of them. so posting here and offers u more options. : )
http://www.geartaker.com/product/m1...opers&utm_medium=minqing&utm_campaign=TA0039G
IPS screen, this screen is excellent! Its ability of video is strong and pwerful.
http://www.geartaker.com/product/gs...opers&utm_medium=minqing&utm_campaign=TA0029S
also IPS screen, and the ability of game-playing is stronger than the former tablet.
as far as i'm concerned, i suggest u not to wait for tegra3, it must be very expensive.
: )

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Moved to proper section, please read the rules before posting.

You want a SINGLE device that is a tablet AND a phone?

I would like to get some opinion from you guys....
I am a startup developing a new kind of mobile device that combines a phone and tablet - putting a 7" screen on a less than 5" phone body. (It is not like the Galaxy Note, where the size is fixed.)
SO when you just want to make calls, check SMS and emails, just use the "phone mode" with a 4"+ screen.
When you want to surf web, watch videos/photos, transform it into a 7"-screen tablet.
Now my question is about the potential market for this device, as it seems that no company is creating a device like this, I am worried if there's no market for it.
a) For those of you carrying two devices (a phone and a tablet), are you feeling a bit inconvenient, annd would you like to have this device?
b) For those of you carrying only a phone, would you like to have a bigger screen, perhaps 7", while retaining the same portability?
c) Would you still buy a 10" tablet after you have this device? (assuming you already have a laptop)
Your help will be very much appreciated!

the first thing that came to mind upon reading this post is the asus padfone.
i do carry the 2 devices (S2 + TF101), and IMO it isn't really a big inconvenience, thus i might not be that interested. Unless it comes with a unique feature / selling point?
cheers.

if the tablet could make calls and i could pair a Bluetooth headset to it, i would get it. maybe it would stop me from texting and driving if it was 10 inch

I see no market for it. Some will buy it for what it is but not enough to make profit or even break even. Try focussing resources on let's say the body of the Droid Razr with an edge to edge screen, custom ROM that gets rid of the touch buttons of the bottom of the device so that can be more room for screen. I would buy something like that.

Or how about a smart-watch that can sync with any tablet to become a secondary display.
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Didn't they already do this? And if I recall it kinda flopped... Not being negative, but I think people are used to carrying around a bunch of gadgets...

deliriume said:
the first thing that came to mind upon reading this post is the asus padfone.
i do carry the 2 devices (S2 + TF101), and IMO it isn't really a big inconvenience, thus i might not be that interested. Unless it comes with a unique feature / selling point?
cheers.
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Thanks for your reply.
There are some aspects of Padfone that we don't think it will be a market success:
1. You still need to carry the 10" screen, and it is not as portable as a 4+" phone 2. When the phone is inside tablet, you'll need a headset to receive and make calls
Anyway our product is not in compete with padfone, although we have something in common - to combine devices from different categories. The key difference, besides the size, is that we emphasize on PORTABILITY; while they probably emphasize on versatile performance.
Our device is small and light and easily slip into pocket, yet comes with a beautiful 7" screen.
BTW, we think the combination of devices (our device + laptop/ultrabook) is more reasonable than (Padfone + laptop/ultrabook), because Padfone size is already very similar to laptop, and almost everyone already has a laptop.

STIDRIVER said:
Didn't they already do this? And if I recall it kinda flopped... Not being negative, but I think people are used to carrying around a bunch of gadgets...
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Thanks for your feedback!
Do you mean Sony's Tablet P?
However, since there is a bezel between the two screens, it cannot be seen as a one screen tablet when unfolded. In fact this is one of the main reason why it gets poor reviews and market reactions (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-21/what-was-sony-thinking-with-tablet-p-rich-jaroslovsky.html). The bezel is simply annoying.
Our startup have found a way to remove the bezel.
Yes people now used to carry around many gadgets, because currently we have no choice

I love the idea of the padfone...4 inch phone during the day, 10 inch phone when at home.
If you have something to offer please let me know, as of know i am seriously looking at the padfone to be my next phone.
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I love the idea of the padfone!

bigboxrate said:
Maybe this one can be a good choice for you if you do not mind using big screen to make telephone calls.
http://www.tinydeal.com/7-pxp7fh-p-39587.html
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800 mhz and 256 ram, gross...
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Good Stuff....Thanks

Tablet s Phone
I really dont understand why Tablets dont incorporate phones, I own a Dell Streak Mini 5, (best phone Ive ever owned) also a sony tablet s.
Both brilliant devices but most of the pros are duplicated by one or the other,
Dell streak, android device, good general purpose but screen too small for word processing or watching vids, not to mention the small onscreen keybord.
Tablet s, android device, good for all things android but no phone.
I dont follow the logic that there would be no market for a tablet device with a phone, I carry a phone and I carry a tablet I would far rather only carry one, i.e. the tablet with a phone in it, I use a blue tooth earpiece for all my phone/music/audio books so its not as if Ive got it stuck to my ear all the time, in fact the phone never comes out unless i want to use an app.
So the answer for me is a resounding YES device of that nature.

This is a great idea. Today's smartphones have all this horsepower but what good is it if the tiny screens make it a chore to get anything done. I'm having difficulty imagining how one would go about incorporating an additional big screen on a phone, but if you can do a clean job at it, I believe it will be success. By clean, I mean the screens should be good quality either glass or matte, not some flimsy folding ****.

noobletsausecakebbq said:
This is a great idea. Today's smartphones have all this horsepower but what good is it if the tiny screens make it a chore to get anything done. I'm having difficulty imagining how one would go about incorporating an additional big screen on a phone, but if you can do a clean job at it, I believe it will be success. By clean, I mean the screens should be good quality either glass or matte, not some flimsy folding ****.
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Yes we are not using folding screens.

I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note exactly for this reason.
The screen is big enough for non-phone usage but small
enough to fit inside a pocket to carry around like you would
carry around a phone. It's already 5.4" so 7" is not that much
larger, you'd better have a real compelling reason for your
device in order to convince people who would otherwise
pick the Note.

Cool Idea
I don't know of your resource base, but have you seen the new translucent material they have demoed for new tablets. That would make your product something that would stand apart. They demoed the material at one of the electronic shows this year.

fetchinson said:
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note exactly for this reason.
The screen is big enough for non-phone usage but small
enough to fit inside a pocket to carry around like you would
carry around a phone. It's already 5.4" so 7" is not that much
larger, you'd better have a real compelling reason for your
device in order to convince people who would otherwise
pick the Note.
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Yup! Ive had my g2 since the day it came out. The two devices im looking at is the padfone or the galaxy note. Im on tmobile usa so hooping one will get 4G sometime this summer. August is my upgrade month
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challa3223 said:
I don't know of your resource base, but have you seen the new translucent material they have demoed for new tablets. That would make your product something that would stand apart. They demoed the material at one of the electronic shows this year.
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No, we are using standard touchscreens...

I think you will have a harder time distinguishing yourself from the padfone since it is out now.

Questions- widgets/syncing/handwriting/charging

Handwriting option for all text input?(browser, email, etc.)?? I played with one at Best Buy last night, and tried to find an option to do this. I thought when I'd played with the Note phone months ago I was able to do this. I found something that looked like it might be a text input button on the regular keyboard and I tried writing and nothing happened. This would be a huge disappointment to me if not possible, because I hate soft keyboards and would rather scribble anything not long enough to require a legitimate full-sized hard keyboard. I'm assuming there is such an option though?
S-Note widget- I use Color Note all the time on my phone sticking notes all over the home screens. Does s-note/memo have this ability? I could write out with handwriting recognition in something like Color Note(depending on my previous question about handwriting..)..but I'd like to streamline things.
Short charging cable. With the adapter that has USB/microusb/etc., can I just plug my regular 10 feet charger cable into the adapter and charge it that way? I need a LONG cable.
S-Note apk..has it been made available to install on other devices, and do they sync? I have a Galaxy Nexus, so would I be able to install there and sync the notes between both devices?
Does anyone use the smart remote Peel app to control their home theater? I tried the Peel app on my Galaxy Nexus that I think just worked with DirecTV(apparently the one on the Note is much more full-featured) and it sucked because you can't even pull up the CHANNEL GUIDE, making it useless. I have a Mitsubishi 82740 DLP TV, DirecTV, Onkyo NR609 receiver, and Panny BMT220 blu-ray player. Hoping I'll be able to control it all with my Note, this would be one of the main selling points of the device for me. I currently do control the blu-ray, receiver, and Direct with my phone but I have to use separate apps for each. Hoping this will allow me to do it all in one app, more of a true "universal remote." I wonder though why it uses IR instead of through wi-fi, since you don't have to point at the devices with wi-fi?
Does using a screen protector affect the S-Pen at all?? Maybe I don't need one..but I always feel better if there's a screen protector on my devices.
Color- the grey one looks blue to me in photos, at least on the front. Can anyone confirm? I've been wanting a white one, but if it's actually a bluish-grey color as it looks to me in pictures I might go that direction. Looks pretty unique to me among tablets.
I saw someone else mention something about left-handed calibration on their Note. I'm lefty and am not sure what that's all about. Is there something about handwriting that makes it not work well for a lefty?
What are the limitations of using microsd for storage? I have a Galaxy Nexus without a microsd card slot of course, so I don't now but I believe I've read that apps can't be installed on the SD card in ICS, which isn't an issue for me, but is that the only negative to using an SD card as storage? Just wondering because I have a 16g microsd card from my previous phone, and wondering if there's any reason to spend an extra $50 for the 32g model if I can just use an SD card for more storage.

Wow. Big list, but I'll try some of this. Mine just arrived today.
1.There's an app for that - 7Notes with mazec
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...Zlbmtub3dsZWRnZS5zZXZlbm5vdGVzcHJvZHVjdGVuIl0.
2. You can use Color Note.
3. It'll probably take longer to charge, or won't charge at all. You have to test it.
4.?
5.?
6.?
7. I see gray - gray, but it depends on your vision and the lighting. Go look at it.
8.?
9. You can use 64GB but have to format it fat32.
? Means I don't know, maybe someone else will help.

Convert Phone to Tablet

Im guessing this forum is meant for software primarily, but im gonna ask this anyways.
If there is a seperate forum for this, i apoloize, but this is primarily a software question.
In theory, shouldn't it be possible to take out the electronics of a phone and hook up a bigger screen and larger battery to convert it into a tablet? I have a LG G6 lying around with a busted screen and a battery that lasts a total of 3 hours, so selling isnt worth it, disposing even less since id pay money to for that. The idea then is to take the completely functional motherboard, get a screen and a battery and 3D print a body that can accommodate it all.
Now the question: is there some sort of hardware ID or driver thing going on for either of the two things? Is it even locked? This is more out of curiosity, but if it is possible, i would try it out if i have the time.
Are batteries that large even available for purchase?

MICHAEL(SMHOS.ORG) said:
You can't really o that to a phone because the screen will not match
The flex won't match
And the body.
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Thats not really the point of the question. It would be put into a custom printed body, maybe i can even manage to mold it somehow. Since the diagonal of the screen is somewhat irrelevant to the software, that shouldn't be a problem either, and finding an 11 inch 2880x1440 screen shouldn't be that hard. The question is if the rest of the phones hardware would recognize there is a screen there, even if its a bigger one. Im not quite sure what "flex" is supposed to mean, but fitting the parts together won't be a problem.
I would imagine it would be harder to get the phone into permanent portrait mode, but Nova Launcher for example doesnt even require root for that. The resolution, if 1440p 18:9 is required for some reason, this would be fixable with root. But the hardware itself is an issue.
So the real question is has anyone ever modified his phones actual hardware?
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By flex you mean the ribbon cables, right?
This, too, should be possible. Unless LG went to extreme lengths to design a custom exotic connector, im fairly sure you can get it to work as long as the hardware will still recognize it.

You would have to have a phone, like a Samsung, who has the video section separate from the main CPU body. I found the Voyo computer use the Samsung video driver for tablets on their tiny CPU boards. While nice CPU's (Deca-Core) the video out would be an issue.
You would also run into video driver issues with the ROM.
Then there would be the touch screen modules you would have to convert as well (along with software in the ROM).
What you might want is an OTG to HDMI adapter. Run a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and drive the HDMI on a big screen. Problem solved. If you want it portable, then the best advice is one that was already given....
....get yourself a tablet....

PyxelDE said:
Im guessing this forum is meant for software primarily, but im gonna ask this anyways.
If there is a seperate forum for this, i apoloize, but this is primarily a software question.
In theory, shouldn't it be possible to take out the electronics of a phone and hook up a bigger screen and larger battery to convert it into a tablet? I have a LG G6 lying around with a busted screen and a battery that lasts a total of 3 hours, so selling isnt worth it, disposing even less since id pay money to for that. The idea then is to take the completely functional motherboard, get a screen and a battery and 3D print a body that can accommodate it all.
Now the question: is there some sort of hardware ID or driver thing going on for either of the two things? Is it even locked? This is more out of curiosity, but if it is possible, i would try it out if i have the time.
Are batteries that large even available for purchase?
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If you were to physically make it work, it would still require compiling a custom kernel with support for the screen added to the kernel. The kernel is what allows your software to use your hardware, kinda like drivers on PC except the drivers are built into the kernel instead of installed separately. You can't just install what the screen needs, it has to be built into a whole new kernel compiled from source and then you've got to get the kernel working with the whole device, not just the new screen.
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Droidriven said:
If you were to physically make it work, it would still require compiling a custom kernel with support for the screen added to the kernel. The kernel is what allows your software to use your hardware, kinda like drivers on PC except the drivers are built into the kernel instead of installed separately. You can't just install what the screen needs, it has to be built into a whole new kernel compiled from source and then you've got to get the kernel working with the whole device, not just the new screen.
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Which would explain why there arent any results online for people doing this. Its way beyond the scope of what could be considered worth it.
Anyways, thanks

skeltonh said:
You would have to have a phone, like a Samsung, who has the video section separate from the main CPU body. I found the Voyo computer use the Samsung video driver for tablets on their tiny CPU boards. While nice CPU's (Deca-Core) the video out would be an issue.
You would also run into video driver issues with the ROM.
Then there would be the touch screen modules you would have to convert as well (along with software in the ROM).
What you might want is an OTG to HDMI adapter. Run a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and drive the HDMI on a big screen. Problem solved. If you want it portable, then the best advice is one that was already given....
....get yourself a tablet....
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Getting a decent tablet would cost me a couple hundred quid, especially one with that hardware. Also it wasn't solely necessity, if i would just need a tablet, i would indeed buy one, but it was also to see if it could be done. Might very well have been a first. Also it would have allowed for some decent creativity. Sadly, were just not there yet, if we ever get to that point where smartphones will have the level of customizability of even a half decent laptop. Things like Project Ara would have been perfect for this, but sadly, money won over innovation