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hey guys,
so I was playing around with the moto x this weekend. and I gotta say I really dig the always on/listening google now feature. even if the phone is locked and just chilling there, I can just say "ok google" and the thing comes to life.
since our beloved nexus 5 also has this feature, (albeit from the home screen in unlocked mode only), is there a way to have it always on like the moto x? doesn't the nexus 5 also have a smaller/low power core like the moto x to make this happen?
Hi All
I currently have (HAD: to give it away) a Motorola RAZR i with Intel Inside.
I love the phone, its fast, i like that i has NFC and i like that it has a slot for MicroSD.
I understand that the NFC and the MicroSD is not available on the Moto G.
However i like the fact that the Moto G will have KitKat.
I bought the Razr i for 130 pounds, now i can not buy it again for that price, i only find it for 200.
So my option is buy a Moto G or spend 50 more and buy the RAZRi again.
Cant make my mind up Help?
Thanks
Xiao
I never had a Razr i so I can't help compare them.
But do you have a chance to somehow test the moto g (friend, in a store?). I think that wouls be the best for you to experience which phone you prefer.
Generally to say, I love the battery life, speed, everything about the moto g (also have a n4 and n5). The camera is okay.
And I don't need more than 16gb at all so I don't care about the lack of sdcard slot.
creambyemute said:
I never had a Razr i so I can't help compare them.
But do you have a chance to somehow test the moto g (friend, in a store?). I think that wouls be the best for you to experience which phone you prefer.
Generally to say, I love the battery life, speed, everything about the moto g (also have a n4 and n5). The camera is okay.
And I don't need more than 16gb at all so I don't care about the lack of sdcard slot.
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I must agree, love Moto G smoothness, love that motorla support for this phone, love that battery and I also don't need SD slot.
I had Razr (not Razr i) and it was little laggy. And that battery there, I hate it. The good thing is I bought one year old Razr for 140€ and 6 months later I traded it to almost new Moto G (that costs 199€) so I wins with Moto G
One thing I miss is camera. Yes, it doesn't make the best pictures, but it does take some pictures when you need and thats okay.
Moto G will learn you that even the small things can do big miracles
Had (have) the RARZi and bought Moto G just for curiosity, I never switched RZi on again besides for some camera comparisons, in which MG won massively in low light.
Performance wise it is black and white: The Intel Atom is very snappy, databases (SMS) open up slightly faster on RZi than on MG, but the overall performance goes to MG. Battery runtime is about the same, 2-3 days is easy.
Personally I like the AMOLED of RZi, but I got used to LCD in 2 days and now I really enjoy that fabulous display on MG. Brighter, sharper, sunlight readable. WIFI and GPS works hands down better on MG.
In palm of the hand the RZi is edgy and sharp, MG soft and smooth, I like that. Never missed the SD card (I hated it on RZi, because I always searched my files on the wrong place, internal, external, blah), same for NFC - I don't use it. Sound quality is Motorola like very good on both phones.
If I must buy a new phone right now: Moto G, no doubt.
That is my subjective opinion but I hope this helps.
Thanks shaftenberg
Think I am gonna switch to razr I. I love amoled screens . I miss NFC and need a decent camera for daylight shots. Moto G one just doesn't cut it for me. Great phone though
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The Razr i is also like what 2 years old?
Did it even get JB, it is old tech now really, my wife had one, it was alright, but I'd go moto G personally.
I have a Razr i and i really loved it since the first day of use, but, I will switch from it to Moto G this next week.
I checked this phone on some stores and friends, the speed is amazing. Fantastic speed, no lags, LCD is really nice and I think it is much better than my Razr's amoled (question of personal opinion).
So, I would go for Moto G.
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I loved the RAZR i, I had one 1 year ago and it was fast, unfortunately it lacked dev support and its stuck with Android 4.1.2, but it was a great phone, the lags were very rare, just... it lacked the Moto Love...
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I loved the RAZR i, I had one 1 year ago and it was fast, unfortunately it lacked dev support and its stuck with Android 4.1.2, but it was a great phone, the lags were very rare, just... it lacked the Moto Love...
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Thanks everyone
I bought the Moto G 16GB today.
Hi All
I am looking to move from a HTC One X to a Moto G. My question in on the camera is it the same or better than my current HTC One X??
jsmith_00 said:
Hi All
I am looking to move from a HTC One X to a Moto G. My question in on the camera is it the same or better than my current HTC One X??
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One X camera is better. Moto G camera is really slow and most pictures require a really steady hand. But I think it takes better low light pictures than the One X, like on the one X all low light pictures were very grainy/fuzzy so that's less out here. You'll definitely notice a bump in battery life though.
Since I did the exact move you're planning maybe a list of pros and cons of moving to moto g will help you
Pros:
Kitkat(and one more update hopefully)
Battery Life(I've got 4.5 hours of screen on time vs the 3 hours I was getting on my One X) This is the entire reason for me shift to the Moto G
Faster(?)
No random heating scenes(which wasn't really fixed on the One X)
Charges pretty quick
Cons:
Smaller Screen
Camera not as good
Prefer the slim dimensions of the One X
Camera is not good at moto g!
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some pic's with Moto G camera, the Stock Camera ( Motorola Camera )
japoina92 said:
some pic's with Moto G camera, the Stock Camera ( Motorola Camera )
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These photos look pretty good to me. I'm of the school that if you what the "best" photos, then use a camera. But for those quick, unplanned pics, your phone is always handy.
the camera on the Moto G is beyond awful
I forgot to mention, the speaker of Moto G is louder than the One X by a considerable amount.
@japoina92 those are some good pics mate. Never got a decent snap like that so far. Maybe my hands are too shaky
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Wtf it's a headcrab! Hilarious brave touching that barehandly
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Ooooops ..posted by mistake
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You have a thread just for posting moto G pictures in "Moto G Themes and Apps" section.
Just thought I'd throw this one in here for anyone put off by Moto G camera reviews. I have had my Moto G for some time now and it remains to be a solid, reliable phone. However, a recent sale for the Lumia 925 came up so I grabbed one as it's supposed to have a decent camera on it.
Well, having done some comparisons between the two, I can categorically confirm that 9 times out of 10 the Moto G produces more well rounded images than the Lumia. Granted, at low light, the G cannot compete, but under normal lighting conditions its actually slightly better, even when zoomed in. Text is no clearer on the 925 than it is on the G. I was really surprised by this and a little gutted I even bothered with the 925. If anyone is interested, I can upload some comparisons.
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Just thought I'd throw this one in here for anyone put off by Moto G camera reviews. I have had my Moto G for some time now and it remains to be a solid, reliable phone. However, a recent sale for the Lumia 925 came up so I grabbed one as it's supposed to have a decent camera on it.
Well, having done some comparisons between the two, I can categorically confirm that 9 times out of 10 the Moto G produces more well rounded images than the Lumia. Granted, at low light, the G cannot compete, but under normal lighting conditions its actually slightly better, even when zoomed in. Text is no clearer on the 925 than it is on the G. I was really surprised by this and a little gutted I even bothered with the 925. If anyone is interested, I can upload some comparisons.
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well,that's a big surprise
nickchk said:
well,that's a big surprise
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Actually, I was a bit too hasty to post in all honesty. I've just done some further comparisons, more accurately, taking into consideration the field of view of the 925 and by transferring the images actually off the two devices and comparing them side by side on the same screen. the edge has now tipped in favor of the 925, but not by a huge degree. The brighter of the two images is the moto one.
Clivectmob said:
Actually, I was a bit too hasty to post in all honesty. I've just done some further comparisons, more accurately, taking into consideration the field of view of the 925 and by transferring the images actually off the two devices and comparing them side by side on the same screen. the edge has now tipped in favor of the 925, but not by a huge degree. The brighter of the two images is the moto one.
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well,i'm not photograph genius ,i think l925 got more detail and a bit less noise,especially by zoom in,but not by far,moto g in your picture still take a great picture. i really surprise :good:
i have to agree though,moto g not the best camera out there but sometimes,under a certain condition,it will take a great photo :highfive:
Well guys sometimes in class I have to take pictures of sombdy's else notes or a pic of something on notice board...mostly printed stuff
It shudnt be high quality....just legible
You think moto g can handle that.?
Easily. It's a capable camera, no where near as bad as had been made out.
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Can you please take a quik pic of a page from a book or magazine or something...I have already booked my Moto G (16 gb) but they sold like hot cakes over here and all stock was gone in minutes
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jaspreet997 said:
Can you please take a quik pic of a page from a book or magazine or something...I have already booked my Moto G (16 gb) but they sold like hot cakes over here and all stock was gone in minutes
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Pictures already posted on this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543003
wrj54 said:
Pictures already posted on this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543003
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Yeah but read my post above ...I meant as a snapshot of a printed page of a book or a notes page or something like that coz my regular usage would involve those
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Does this help? Hopefully, I uploaded the photos correct
Ok, for us how are new to the moto phones, can you please explain the difference between these two options.
Which one do you prefer? Which one uses more battery?
Ambient Display uses more battery it doesn't use Motorola's separate low power CPU. Half-baked not as reliable as Moto Display.
Both accomplish the same task.
You have the option on the 2015 X. I wish the ir sensor worked with ambient display
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So there is no real advantage in ambient over moto display? Better go with moto?
I actually prefer the look of Ambient Display, but wish it worked as well as Moto Display. I've got Ambient enabled on my GPE HTC M8 (via DigitalHigh LolliGPE ROM), but it's not as responsive as the Nexus 6 Ambient Display, and nowhere near the finely tuned beast that is Moto Display. But, it looks really cool.
In short, the Ambient Display is Lollipop's default lockscreen shown in black and white. It's interactive, meaning you can tap on the black and white notification, and the screen will fully turn on in color, and you can do whatever you normally do with the notifications.
Moto Display is a similar, but separate lock-screen, where notifications show up on a black and white, low-power screen that shows up to three (I think) of your most recent notifications. You can tap on the circle, and drag for actions, such as dismiss, open, unlock, etc. There is still the stock Lollipop lock-screen if you just press the power button instead of picking up or waving over the phone, so it is completely separate from the default lockscreen.
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So there is no real advantage in ambient over moto display? Better go with moto?
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So, yes, go with the Moto Display if you value battery life more than aesthetics, because the Moto Display uses the low-power, dedicated CPU core to run the sensors that turn on Moto Display, which Ambient Display doesn't. Ambient uses the phones internal sensors to determine whether you're picking up the phone or not, which uses more power than the proprietary chip/core.
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As an aside, there is one more dedicated CPU core that does natural language processing, which is what allows you to always talk to the phone and have it respond to a certain keyphrase. Another really cool addition that makes the Moto X line a notch above the other flagships, IMO
what about
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.activenotifications&hl=en
jonathanbailie said:
I actually prefer the look of Ambient Display...
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Thanks a lot for such a detailed explanation. I appreciate it
StreetkillnHD said:
what about
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.activenotifications&hl=en
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I've used that on my M8 and Nexus 5 before and it works really well. It essentially mimics Moto Display, but since those phones don't have the hardware to match the DynamicNotifications like the Moto X does, it does create more battery drain. That app does work as advertised though; it's good, especially if you've got an AMOLED device.
Fantach said:
Thanks a lot for such a detailed explanation. I appreciate it
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Yeah man, that's what we're here for :good:
jonathanbailie said:
I've used that on my M8 and Nexus 5 before and it works really well. It essentially mimics Moto Display, but since those phones don't have the hardware to match the DynamicNotifications like the Moto X does, it does create more battery drain. That app does work as advertised though; it's good, especially if you've got an AMOLED device.
Yeah man, that's what we're here for :good:
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Also it doesn't respect the smart locks you set. If you're connected to a device that's supposed to keep your device unlocked the dynamic notifications will relock the device. Happens with acdisplay as well.
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Coming from a Nexus 6, I may end up getting the Pure. I'm a little worried that Motorola is losing its luster under Lenovo so I'm concerned for updates & support, but using the Nexus 6 for almost a year, I feel like Google's additions of Motorola's features weren't all there yet and Moto Display is one of the ones I was missing.
It felt more limited on my 2013 Moto x vs the Nexus 6 since the Nexus 6 is basically a black and white version of your lock screen so you see all the notifications when it 'breathes' vs the 2013 Moto X's one at a time (it improved a lot on the 2014 one if I'm not mistaken), but the thing I don't like about it on my Nexus 6 is that simply touching the screen anywhere fires up the whole screen which likely needlessly wastes battery. I'm constantly activating the whole screen on my Nexus 6 and it's very annoying, especially when all I'm trying to do is put the phone in my pocket, but my hand brushes against the screen. To me, the 2013 Moto x, it was a deliberate action when I wanted to preview a notification or swipe up/down to fire up the display.
Though with a non-amoled screen, it probably doesn't matter any more, power wise.
Is the colored Moto Display new to the 2015 Moto XPE, or was that on the older 2014 Moto X as well? I've never seen it before, so I'm thinking it has to be because of the LCD instead of AMOLED.
If you don't know what I mean, the new Moto X Pure/Style can show colors (instead of just black and white notifications) in its Moto Display feature.
jonathanbailie said:
Is the colored Moto Display new to the 2015 Moto XPE, or was that on the older 2014 Moto X as well? I've never seen it before, so I'm thinking it has to be because of the LCD instead of AMOLED.
If you don't know what I mean, the new Moto X Pure/Style can show colors (instead of just black and white notifications) in its Moto Display feature.
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I believe that's the blue screen when you activate the phone with moto voice.
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biggiestuff said:
I believe that's the blue screen when you activate the phone with moto voice.
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No, that's not what I mean. I haven't actually seen it since the first time I used Moto Display, but it had a little blue part below the ring that said "touch to start" or something. Since then, I haven't seen anything bit black and white on Moto Display.
Isnt the Moto Pure screen LDC this time? Means the Moto Display will use more power than AMOLED?
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Isnt the Moto Pure screen LDC this time? Means the Moto Display will use more power than AMOLED?
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Yeah it would do kost likley. But the less power used during web browsing on the LCD is probably a greater saving in power overall compared to the AMOLED.
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Tested ambient display on mxpe for about 2 weeks. I changed back to moto display and am happy about it.
For like media player, moto display you need to push on the lock icon and slide it to the task you want. Making accidentally unlocking in pocket harder.
Ambient display kept unlocking in my pocket.
I think Moto display is way better but it's a shame that it isn't in any custom ROM only in stock
bublz654 said:
I think Moto display is way better but it's a shame that it isn't in any custom ROM only in stock
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Hey. You can flash moto display. With any compatible ROM like trupurexmm. Flash with twrp. I don't know about other recovery's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...ast-smooth-t3237155/post63574299#post63574299
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Hitti2 said:
Hey. You can flash moto display. With any compatible ROM like trupurexmm. Flash with twrp. I don't know about other recovery's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/development/rom-trupurex-fast-smooth-t3237155/post63574299#post63574299
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Would I be able to flash it on a CM13 based ROM though ?
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Would I be able to flash it on a CM13 based ROM though ?
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That I do not know.
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Sorry if this is the wrong forum, there are so many forums here it's hard to know whether it's the right one or not.
I am deliberating over which of the two devices I should buy, the newly announced Nexus 5X or the Moto X play.
Ever since it was announced, the Moto X seemed like a very good choice, as it has a very big battery, an sd card slot, active display (I just really really love it), and Motorola is trustworthy when it comes to system updates.
I am of course waiting for reviews before knowing which one to buy, I'll be waiting a few months before making that decision.
Basically I use my phone for messaging, some web surfing, little bit of social media. I rarely play games, and never the heavy ones (don't really find the appeal). Most of the time my phone is idle (see no reason for using it if I am near a computer for example or have no one to message with). For those reasons I am not buying some huge phone (like the Nexus 6P or a Galaxy note), I just have no interest in watching movies on my phones or playing heavy games. Also, one of the things that really annoys me with the Nexus 4 is the fact that my battery is dropping too quickly even when idle (for example, 8-9% over night, and I don't have anything open, not 3G, not WIFI, not location, etc.).
My important points for the two phones:
Processor - 808 on the Nexus vs 615 on the Moto X. Which one is better for battery?
Battery - 3630mAh for the Moto X compared to 2700mAh for the Nexus - Moto X wins here.
The sensor hub on the Nexus - sounds very promising, and really appealing to someone like me that used his proximity sensor on the Nexus 4 to unlock the phone and avoid pressing the power button.
If I understood correctly, you can just pick up the phone and it's ambient display will turn on. For me it's simply amazing. While Motorola's active display is also amazing (I used it a lot through other roms and apps) it doesn't have that capability.
5.2' on the Nexus vs 5.5' on the Moto X. I prefer smaller screens so the Nexus here wins.
The Nexus weighs less, that's better.
SD card slot in Moto X only.
The Moto X is missing **a lot** of sensors - including gyroscope and compass which are pretty much basic nowadays.
The Nexus 5X has a fingerprint sensor.
21 MP on the Moto X where the Nexus has 12 MP, though I know it depends on the sensor really, and not just the size of mega pixels. Would love some comments on that.
The Nexus has BT version 4.2 compared to to version 4.0 on the Moto X. Does it really matter?
USB type C on the Nexus. A luxury, but still.
The price! The Moto X seems to be cheaper than the Nexus 5X (and if I will purchase the Nexus, I will buy the 32GB version).
Just by writing this list I realize that the Nexus 5X could be way better, but I am concerned about battery, mostly. Would love your comments mainly on the first item on the list and the camera, but your opinions as well about everything else. I would prefer to see if I missed anything before making this decision.
Thank you.
Well for me I think I would go with the Moto X play because of the big battery that should last a lot longer then the nexus 5x and also one of the best cameras in a Motorola phone. Also it has a micro sd card slot which is nice. The Moto X style/pure is another phone you should look at simular to the nexus 5x. But overall the choice is yours and the nexus 5x is still a great phone.
Camera of Moto X Play is pretty mediocre in performance. Software update is necessary.
As per the price the Nexus is perfect. Only an option for SD card would have been nice!
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A_Bunny said:
Well for me I think I would go with the Moto X play because of the big battery that should last a lot longer then the nexus 5x and also one of the best cameras in a Motorola phone. Also it has a micro sd card slot which is nice. The Moto X style/pure is another phone you should look at simular to the nexus 5x. But overall the choice is yours and the nexus 5x is still a great phone.
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Thank you for your comment, actually the Moto X style is not a good option for me as it is more of a phone for those heavy users that love big screens that they can play on and watch movies on and etc. And I really dislike big screens, IMO 5' is already too much but there are almost no other options really as all other phones that have smaller screens are also very low-range, so I should move forward, but there has to be some kind of a limit. Also, the Moto X style has a smaller battery (which is weird but whatever).
Tisya Das said:
Camera of Moto X Play is pretty mediocre in performance. Software update is necessary.
As per the price the Nexus is perfect. Only an option for SD card would have been nice!
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Were there any talks of a software update? Do you think it's a software issue?
There's a dedicated thread for such questions,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Thanks! Thread closed.
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