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I have said before that people who think the Nexus 4 is fragile are just irresponsible and don't know how to mind their phones...
... then I dropped the phone in my backyard. On grass. While in a TPU S-case. The screen cracked and the digitizer was unresponsive.
$120, a toolkit, and a YouTube video later; I've got a repaired phone. When I leave my house, my phone always rests in a case, whether S-case, Poetic Palette, or Poetic Slimbook. And these cases always add a noticeable amount of bulk.
I'd love to be able to use the phone caseless, but I don't want to shell out another $120 and spend another evening replacing the screen.
So... I'd be very grateful if someone would please explain to me why I shouldn't buy this. Tell me why it doesn't provide drop protection. Or that the phone would still break from a 5 foot fall into concrete. Tell me that the coverage means nothing and that edge protection is necessary if the event of a drop.
Or... you can tell me that this screen protector provides as much protection as the Poetic Palette/Rearth Ringke
I'm only asking for real advice, because I really want to go caseless, and if the Rhino Shield provides adequate drop protection, I will. 2x0.29 mm isn't too thick (0.58 mm for our slow friends) and is certainly thinner than any case possible.
P.S. If the Kickstarter is cancelled, everyone gets their money back (no scam).
I have a question.
when your phone dropped (with the S TPU) you didn't have any screen protector on?
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I have a question.
when your phone dropped (with the S TPU) you didn't have any screen protector on?
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I did not have a screen protector on.
More and extraneous detail: I had just gotten the phone replaced, as my first N4 had a faulty radio that consistently dropped cellular data. With my replacement, I left the packing film on the back, but removed the front film.
When I dropped the phone, it landed on it's back. Somehow, only the front cracked. The back remains pristine, though I have since removed that packing film.
there's your answer. put the film back on. you're welcome.
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there's your answer. put the film back on. you're welcome.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious or you truly don't understand the point of my thread...
This Kickstarter is for a very durable screen protector that appears resilient against single point impact. However, I don't know how it fares against an actual drop. I'm particularly interested in how it would do against concrete.
I'd be very interested in using my phone without a case, and this specific screen protector boasts significantly more protection than a standard screen protector. Watch the video. Spoiler: a 255g ball bearing is dropped from 48cm onto a Gorilla Glass 2 panel with Rhino Shield and escapes intact. The same bearing is then dropped from a mere 9cm onto the same glass panel which is now using a "standard" screen protector. This time, the screen cracks all over.
However, someone who has more experience in industrial design or phone durability may be able to dispel the Rhino Shield claims. Maybe their test was not representative of an actual drop. Maybe edge protection is far more important.
One thing is certain about your advice... I'm not going to heed it!
Edit: this video is a more direct comparison, using a real phone this time. It seems very impressive, but I'm still concerned about hire important edge protection is in the case of a real world drop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk70XEYk53Y
Edit 2: this video actually had drop results and they seem promising. I'm going to bite the bullet and get one. I'll try to remember to update this thread in the future if my phone breaks. If I don't, assume it hasn't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humEMjHElG0
so basically it's a product similar to wrapsol and ~5 $ cheaper
I was joking actually but thanks for the info
AW: Ok, talk me out of buying this: Rhino Shield.
That would be seriously nice if the Kids were playing on my Device!
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so basically it's a product similar to wrapsol and ~5 $ cheaper
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Ahh, now there's a helpful post. I looked up Wrapsol protectors and found this review on Amazon:
the product was delivered very quick almost 5 days faster than expected. I bought this product on amazon since they stopped selling them in my local walmart. Couldn't be happier the full screen protector is the way to go since you get full protection with minimal size increase. I have dropped my phone probably over 150 times over the past year with this wrapsol full screen protector on it and it has yet to crack any of those times (including tile, terrazzo, and concrete).
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I've looked at the other reviews, for all kinds of iPhones, and found that Wrapsol protectors stretch over time. I really hope this doesn't happen to Rhino Shield, but I'll just make them give me a new one if that happens. I mean, it would be pretty messed up if you got a screen protector, and after a year it misaligned to the point of function loss.
I saw a post today (on another forum) about someone dropping a nexus 4 with wrapsol on it- he got out of a car and forgot the phone was on his lap, and he says the screen shattered at 3 different places.
in my opinion, these types of screen protectors may help as long as the phone doesn't fall on one of its corners.
Amazer already has one of these
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-ShatterProof-Screen-Protector-Front-Coverage-P95221.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxl1bRTldo
their brick test is incredible...
however, the rhino is about half the price
I'm not sure how similar the rhino shield is compared to invisible shield but I've been using that on all my phones for a long time and can tell you that even on corner drops I have not had a single cracked screen. I got the full body shield installed by the guy at the mall selling it for $35. I think you can buy it without someone installing it for less.
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their brick test is incredible...
however, the rhino is about half the price
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Again, I'm quite skeptical about the rigor of these companies' testing methods. I just don't feel like the hammer and bricks tests represent real life hazards to phones. They should perform a drop test onto a hard surface, and repeat dropping until the glass shatters or they show that the screen protector really is shatterproof. I'd love to see a worst case scenario from a set of 100 trials.
From what I see if specs, Rhino is at least 50% thicker than similar shatterproof film. I just wish Rhino would release chemical info of the polymer that used
I already gave Rhino Shield my USD$24, though.
I think I am in for one
I am waiting at home for the Fed Ex truck to arrive with my repaired Nexus 4. Dropped it from 1.5 feet onto the tile in my bathroom and the front screen shattered and the digitizer stopped working. I would love to see this in a drop test but those videos look impressive. My fault for not having a case on it yet but it is ridiculous how fragile this phone is. I don't understand how Google and LG Engineering would allow this out the door like this. I could easily see some sort of class action lawsuit coming over the build robustness and I will be sure to sign up if/when it happens to get some of that $140 repair bill back. I am going to contribute to this kickstarter. Looks like they are getting close to their goal.
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I am waiting at home for the Fed Ex truck to arrive with my repaired Nexus 4. Dropped it from 1.5 feet onto the tile in my bathroom and the front screen shattered and the digitizer stopped working. I would love to see this in a drop test but those videos look impressive. My fault for not having a case on it yet but it is ridiculous how fragile this phone is. I don't understand how Google and LG Engineering would allow this out the door like this. I could easily see some sort of class action lawsuit coming over the build robustness and I will be sure to sign up if/when it happens to get some of that $140 repair bill back. I am going to contribute to this kickstarter. Looks like they are getting close to their goal.
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Everyone knows they bought a glass frint/back phone, I doubt there's going to be a class action lawsuit... Lol
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Where/how do you order one?
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Where/how do you order one?
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You can either back them on Kickstarter and choose the Nexus 4 front and back protector as a 'reward' (costs £16 to get that reward).
Alternatively you can wait for it to come into production and buy it just like any other product.
It sounds good. I might back it.
How do you all think this compares to the Fantom 4 tempered glass screen protectors? I was thinking of getting one of those.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious or you truly don't understand the point of my thread...
This Kickstarter is for a very durable screen protector that appears resilient against single point impact. However, I don't know how it fares against an actual drop. I'm particularly interested in how it would do against concrete.
I'd be very interested in using my phone without a case, and this specific screen protector boasts significantly more protection than a standard screen protector. Watch the video. Spoiler: a 255g ball bearing is dropped from 48cm onto a Gorilla Glass 2 panel with Rhino Shield and escapes intact. The same bearing is then dropped from a mere 9cm onto the same glass panel which is now using a "standard" screen protector. This time, the screen cracks all over.
However, someone who has more experience in industrial design or phone durability may be able to dispel the Rhino Shield claims. Maybe their test was not representative of an actual drop. Maybe edge protection is far more important.
One thing is certain about your advice... I'm not going to heed it!
Edit: this video is a more direct comparison, using a real phone this time. It seems very impressive, but I'm still concerned about hire important edge protection is in the case of a real world drop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk70XEYk53Y
Edit 2: this video actually had drop results and they seem promising. I'm going to bite the bullet and get one. I'll try to remember to update this thread in the future if my phone breaks. If I don't, assume it hasn't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humEMjHElG0
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i posted in the rhino thread about the edge not being protected so there's not a lot of real drop protection. Im not and expert on phone design but if you take a look at your phones or videos of drop test, esp. the ones in slow mo, you can see that on a flat surface the phone will impact the edges most of the time. There's lots of pics of phones with shattered screens and the ones from drops usually are cracked from an edge or corner. the Nexus 4 is going to be worst than other phones because the screen curves around the bezel exposing more glass in a vulnerable area that is not covered by the screen protector. If you want drop protection get a case with lip around the screen. Get a screen protector if you dont want scratches.
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You can either back them on Kickstarter and choose the Nexus 4 front and back protector as a 'reward' (costs £16 to get that reward).
Alternatively you can wait for it to come into production and buy it just like any other product.
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backing a kickstarter will not guarantee you get anything, most fail even the ones with enough backing and there's no refunds with kickstarter. You are also getting an untested product until someone can get it and verify the manufacture's claims.
Anytime I purchase a new phone, it is the time to put on a new ZAGG. I'm willing to try out other brands, but of course this is the usual in your face brand available at many local retailers.
Best Buy was ready with a complete line from original to smudge proof to high definition. They didn't have the front and back which is pretty common. ZAGG's site never seems to list every combination available either.
Anyways since running one of my Note 2's naked to prove a point, I've gone back to putting something on a new phone shortly after unboxing it. I don't care how many Youtube videos there are about Gorilla Glass this or that. A nice pair of keys or some good ole American currency in the form of coins seems to be a powerful combination against a phone.
S4 Related Stuff
Trident Aegis Series Case - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2271946
ExoGear ExoMount Tablet S Dashboard Mount - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2271890
Incipio DualPro SHINE (Silicrylic) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2255790
Seidio Surface Case (Platinum PT @ Best Buy) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2264686
ZAGG InvisibleSHIELD Install - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2255755
Install Adobe Flash - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2257942
Setup AT&T Visual Voicemail (not messages) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyuUyZ2nxYs
Setup Google Voice - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyuUyZ2nxYs
TV Remote Demonstration - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ltlo0UNfuA
SpeedTest in Houston Medical Center vs HTC One (AT&T) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxqzlkGfjkw
Galaxy S4 vs HTC One vs Nexus 4 vs Note 2 Quadrant Benchmark Test - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjYesuj-7ac
Unboxing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnUlkKMfsrw
Just my opinion but if you are recording a video of a screen protector installation and you cut out the tough/problem moments (at 4:13, 4:36, and 6:00), it makes the video less helpful. I personally would rather watch a longer video and see how you deal with the tough moments instead of you cutting them out since that makes the installation seem easier than it actually is to put on.
Of course that's just my opinion, trying to give constructive criticism to help with future videos, feel free to throw it in the trash if it doesn't help at all or I'm just talking crazy
There really weren't any issues. I did cut some of the constant squeegee moments out IIRC. Use application fluid liberally and go to town.
Thanks for the feedback though. I'll make a version where I don't remove a second for you to look at.
I'll also be sure to watch your videos for guidance in the future. Just post an example here.
EDIT: 4:13 just pull it up to align it better. Just like starting all over again. 4:16 I let go of it once it was visually aligned. 6:00 probably should have shown more but just used the squeegee a lot. When you use liberal amounts of application fluid, it makes alignment easy. You just have more to squeegee.
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Here's that 46 seconds I cut out....
Enjoy!
Not sure you read the manual but you were suppose to turn the phone off and let it be off like 12 hour for the water and bubble to go away. And also not really good to spray right on the phone as it goes into the holes. Its right in the manual. I just installed the non HD but i think the HD might look even better. SGP is the best to be honest but for the time being i use this until i get a hold of Spigen .
Not sure if you listened to the video, but I talked about that for 30 to 45 seconds.
I keep it on to check for dust trapped in there.
Premium phones aren't too hydrophobic. If you choose to spray directly, pay attention when you in squeegee.
If you want someone's real feedback who has installed them several times with no dust trapped in between layers and no bubbles, watch the video. If you want to read a manual... Read the manual. Any company that did suggest you to spray the device would have a huge liability for doing so. No company in their right mind would even hint at it.
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Not sure if you listened to the video, but I talked about that for 30 to 45 seconds.
I keep it on to check for dust trapped in there.
Premium phones aren't too hydrophobic. If you choose to spray directly, pay attention when you in squeegee.
If you want someone's real feedback who has installed them several times with no dust trapped in between layers and no bubbles, watch the video. If you want to read a manual... Read the manual. Any company that did suggest you to spray the device would have a huge liability for doing so. No company in their right mind would even hint at it.
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They dont recommend it for a good reason! And you spray it right into the speaker even which is not ok. Sure you dont get dust or bubble but is that primary concern? Still when you put something like this some people will take it as its ok to do so and might end up damaging their phone.
And saying in the video if you get away with it is pretty stupid phrasing, what does that mean even? Do you mean its luck so take a gamble with your brand new phone? If you dont this many times than you should know better
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They dont recommend it for a good reason! And you spray it right into the speaker even which is not ok. Sure you dont get dust or bubble but is that primary concern? Still when you put something like this some people will take it as its ok to do so and might end up damaging their phone.
And saying in the video if you get away with it is pretty stupid phrasing, what does that mean even? Do you mean its luck so take a gamble with your brand new phone? If you dont this many times than you should know better
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Spend your life reading manuals. Obviously you didn't need to watch the video, and obviously you didn't originally or you would have heard what I said. I'll continue to give advice based on what I've done in life as long as it dose not put people in harms way. I rather show a worst case scenario vs someone watching and wondering what happens if they accidentally got a lot of liquid on the screen.
I'm no cell phone designer, but I'm willing to bet the speaker grille was designed in a manner to resist water. Actually that the whole assembly was. We have sweaty people using phones, people in downpours using phones, etc. The flagship device has to take this into account or lose to a competitor's phone. Despite all of this, I still took the time to explain that I was deviating from the manual.
I guess I should go rip the supercharger out of my car as well because I just voided the warranty on it by installing it. Car manufacturer doesn't believe I should run boost. I am one of those people who buys a new car and modifies it. Perhaps you fall into the category of those who wait for the warranty to run out before touching it.
Yes, I blocked you from the Youtube channel because you were just voting down my videos. When you commented from another username you did the same thing again. I make these videos to support my family. I have a baby girl that was born on the 24th. You also fall into the category of those who are willing to criticize, but you don't have a valid Youtube channel of your own. If you want to do something productive, make videos and show things from your perspective instead of coming to my channel to bash me.
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Spend your life reading manuals. Obviously you didn't need to watch the video, and obviously you didn't originally or you would have heard what I said. I'll continue to give advice based on what I've done in life as long as it dose not put people in harms way. I rather show a worst case scenario vs someone watching and wondering what happens if they accidentally got a lot of liquid on the screen.
I'm no cell phone designer, but I'm willing to bet the speaker grille was designed in a manner to resist water. Actually that the whole assembly was. We have sweaty people using phones, people in downpours using phones, etc. The flagship device has to take this into account or lose to a competitor's phone. Despite all of this, I still took the time to explain that I was deviating from the manual.
I guess I should go rip the supercharger out of my car as well because I just voided the warranty on it by installing it. Car manufacturer doesn't believe I should run boost. I am one of those people who buys a new car and modifies it. Perhaps you fall into the category of those who wait for the warranty to run out before touching it.
Yes, I blocked you from the Youtube channel because you were just voting down my videos. When you commented from another username you did the same thing again. I make these videos to support my family. I have a baby girl that was born on the 24th. You also fall into the category of those who are willing to criticize, but you don't have a valid Youtube channel of your own. If you want to do something productive, make videos and show things from your perspective instead of coming to my channel to bash me.
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Ok so much text for basically saying you "think" its ok but your not sure. I only pointed out my view and highlighted your mistake. Your comment saying if you can get away with it is just silly to me but that is my opinion cause its just could cause you damage period. Has nothing to do with if your cautious or not.
I actually was searching to see if others used the small sticker on the home key when i bumped into your video and was surprised that
first you did not turn the phone of and second you keep spraying huge amount of water straight into the phone which is never ok. this is totally different from when you hold your phone and talk when your sweaty i hope you do realize that.
And there is a reason why there is a like/dislike on youtube, when you use the service you agree to accept it for what its worth, i was not rude or anything and added my opinion so when you sensor stuff out/block a user your taking it to another level. I actually never dont dislike but this was in my view a bad video (not bad for most part but what i already pointed out) so i made a thumb down. You as a reviewer should learn to accept when people dislike something and learn from it instead of doing censorship, that will hurt you more in the long run if you want a good reputation, take it as a friendly advice.
No i dont have a channel so what? i watch allot of videos and as said i'm usually not criticizing without a good reason. Anyway i'm willing to let it go if you can.
And congrats on your baby :good:
thanks very much. the video was messy but im sure that's how it is in real life anyways. and you did include the 46 seconds you deleted under the video in the comments so idk why everyone is complaining. its right there lol
I state if you can get away with using no fluid go for it.
"Use as little spray as possible."
Isn't that what I said?
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I state if you can get away with using no fluid go for it.
"Use as little spray as possible."
Isn't that what I said?
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We obviously talk in circles lets just drop the discussion and enjoy our S4's. I'm actually going to order a spigen, the ZAG is still not so clear. Its also a bit plasticky so i miss the glass, spigen has a glass protector so i'm considering that. Have you tried those?
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/sa...ctor-glas-tr-slim-premium-tempered-glass.html
vampyren said:
We obviously talk in circles lets just drop the discussion and enjoy our S4's. I'm actually going to order a spigen, the ZAG is still not so clear. Its also a bit plasticky so i miss the glass, spigen has a glass protector so i'm considering that. Have you tried those?
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/sa...ctor-glas-tr-slim-premium-tempered-glass.html
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Fine fine... Sorry.
Anyways, I haven't gotten many Spigen products. When they were a upcoming company, just getting into the spotlight they sent me some cases. I loved the Argo (I believe that's what it's called) for the GS3.
The HD InvisibleSHIELDs definitely still have the orange peel effect, but it it hard to notice, for me at least, when the screen is lit.
Just cause you mentioned it, I might go through some Spigen products and make an order.
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Fine fine... Sorry.
Anyways, I haven't gotten many Spigen products. When they were a upcoming company, just getting into the spotlight they sent me some cases. I loved the Argo (I believe that's what it's called) for the GS3.
The HD InvisibleSHIELDs definitely still have the orange peel effect, but it it hard to notice, for me at least, when the screen is lit.
Just cause you mentioned it, I might go through some Spigen products and make an order.
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cheers, the thing that bothers me with InvisibleSHIELD is the feeling, its not very glossy, when i use swypekey or drag my finger it just dont feel as it should,its a bit "sticky" feeling to it. Also it gets sticky on the edges after some time and pulls durt to itself. Its still new so no issue but i know my iphone use to gather lot of dirt after being in my pocket on the edges. Never had that problem with other brands. But all and all Spigen has some of the best i seen (will check the Argo too). Hori (from Japan) is actually best and is close to bubble free but they dont make for all gadgets. I got Hori for my PS Vita and i cant even see the layer. Its truly amazing.
Looking forward to some Spigen review
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cheers, the thing that bothers me with InvisibleSHIELD is the feeling, its not very glossy, when i use swypekey or drag my finger it just dont feel as it should,its a bit "sticky" feeling to it. Also it gets sticky on the edges after some time and pulls durt to itself. Its still new so no issue but i know my iphone use to gather lot of dirt after being in my pocket on the edges. Never had that problem with other brands. But all and all Spigen has some of the best i seen (will check the Argo too). Hori (from Japan) is actually best and is close to bubble free but they dont make for all gadgets. I got Hori for my PS Vita and i cant even see the layer. Its truly amazing.
Looking forward to some Spigen review
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Cool.. I need to look up all this other stuff, but I'm at work right now... SHHHHH
Going to make a blog style site with a forum subsection on my main forum for case/screen protector reviews. I'm rusty because I have a full time job again. For a year all I did was work on my own forum and make videos.
Sounds like fun
But nice with full time job so you get income every month. Looking forward to new reviews
I like how everyone just got along that fast
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Keys and coins will not scratch the screen, it's more likely particles of sand in the air found themselves in your pocket or something, (you can find countless articles around here)
Anyways, I have a Zagg on my Xperia Arc and after 1 year of use it has multiple stretch marks (around 20 of them) which is slightly annoying and the oleophobic coating seems to have disappeared :< (that maybe my fault however) and like a comment from before the feel of Zagg is not for me :/ it doesn't have a slick feel to it.
One tip however is to apply screen protectors in your bathroom (as crazy as it sounds) as it the room with the least likely to have dust, especially after a shower/bath
great video !
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Keys and coins will not scratch the screen, it's more likely particles of sand in the air found themselves in your pocket or something, (you can find countless articles around here)
Anyways, I have a Zagg on my Xperia Arc and after 1 year of use it has multiple stretch marks (around 20 of them) which is slightly annoying and the oleophobic coating seems to have disappeared :< (that maybe my fault however) and like a comment from before the feel of Zagg is not for me :/ it doesn't have a slick feel to it.
One tip however is to apply screen protectors in your bathroom (as crazy as it sounds) as it the room with the least likely to have dust, especially after a shower/bath
great video !
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Actually that is something i seen before and it's a good advice to do it in the bathroom after a shower, all the humidity will kill the dust
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Right. I was about to bust out the popcorn. XD
Hi there.
I've got the problem that I have to decide between two devices. P9 or H8.
The H8 looks, imo, better and feels better. A bit thicker and heavier. That's what I like, until now I use the one M8, there I know what I've got in my hands
The biggest deal breaker so far is the back side. Made of Glas. I hate this kind of coolness, that seems to be more important than durability.
Additional there is in Germany no warranty for the first months to get front or back replaced if broken.
So what's your experience with the phone? Already dropped it out of hand or pocket? Perhaps landing on back or front? Did it survive everything so far, or was a side broken?
Next point is the price, honor 8 399€, P9 519€....
If it would have a metal back.....
I'm looking forward for your answers!
Greetings
Patrick
You can read something from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/screen-strong-t3456686 it gets scratched easilly with micro scratches (As EVERY device with back glass. I know this because i had the xperia Z1 and my friend has S6 edge which got scratched too) and I guess as long as you get a case and dont drop it you should be fine.
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You can read something from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/screen-strong-t3456686 it gets scratched easilly with micro scratches (As EVERY device with back glass. I know this because i had the xperia Z1 and my friend has S6 edge which got scratched too) and I guess as long as you get a case and dont drop it you should be fine.
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Thanks for the link.
Well that means that I will call my market and NOT take it. They shall sell it someone else.
A case and a tempered glass is not the problem.
But a crack from a minor drop, and easy scratches and so on, not thank you. That's not worth a saving of 120 euro....
Damned.
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Well if you dont have both hands left you wont drop it. That's up to you but i also prefer to buy phones in classic shops instead of dealing with sending my phone for repair through mail (in case of RMA). This is why i bought Honor 8 instead of OP3.
It's not just because of my left hands
I also got a child with 1,5 years. And believe me, somehow she always gets her hand on my phone. And yes, I am sometimes a little bit left handed. My M8 fell down several times, always in a case, but never something (noticeable) happened. But it's getting sooooo slow, I need to make factory reset at least once a month to get a smooth phone back. That's annoying. And that's the point why I need a new one. Or want a new one. Depends on the point of view
And after I know that I definitely WILL let it fall down sometimes.... I go for some phone without a glass back. Seems to me a bit better for my money
And yes, I ordered the last phones on Amazon. But we hate each other now, so I will buy it at a store, or a bit cheaper at O2. But never ever again Amazon for electric stuff.
But I leave the point of this thread.
The glass seems to be ok, as long as you use a foil on the front and a case and never let it fall down.
Point one and two ist fine. Point three impossible. So I have to choose something else... Really a bit bad, cause I like the optic....
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I've had my Honor 8 for a few weeks. I've never dropped it or set it face down. I don't put it in a pocket with anything else.
I've got a LOT of scratches on the face already. It's really disappointing. I looked online and to get a tempered screen protector (which looks like garbage because they don't cover the whole screen) I'd have to wait until mid October. I'm sure the screen will be in horrible shape by then.
I love the phone but they cheaped out on an important part.
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Point to add to this...
I've had my Honor 8 for a few weeks. I've never dropped it or set it face down. I don't put it in a pocket with anything else.
I've got a LOT of scratches on the face already. It's really disappointing. I looked online and to get a tempered screen protector (which looks like garbage because they don't cover the whole screen) I'd have to wait until mid October. I'm sure the screen will be in horrible shape by then.
I love the phone but they cheaped out on an important part.
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X04D said:
Point to add to this...
I've had my Honor 8 for a few weeks. I've never dropped it or set it face down. I don't put it in a pocket with anything else.
I've got a LOT of scratches on the face already. It's really disappointing. I looked online and to get a tempered screen protector (which looks like garbage because they don't cover the whole screen) I'd have to wait until mid October. I'm sure the screen will be in horrible shape by then.
I love the phone but they cheaped out on an important part.
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Did you check out Amazon for screen protectors? I found a few on there BUT the best one in my opinion is the Skinomi FULL BODY wrap. I'm getting that one plus a clear case and that should protect it to a certain degree. I've used the Skinomi full body wraps on my HTC's and they work great at protecting from minor drops and scratches....
Good luck!!
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We are sorry to hear that your screen did not work out for you. Unfortunately your warranty is void from the physical damage. We suggest you fix the issue through a third party merchant.
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What are you talking about? The phone was advertised as having 3 months warranty on the screen.
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beachparty2k said:
Did you check out Amazon for screen protectors? I found a few on there BUT the best one in my opinion is the Skinomi FULL BODY wrap. I'm getting that one plus a clear case and that should protect it to a certain degree. I've used the Skinomi full body wraps on my HTC's and they work great at protecting from minor drops and scratches....
Good luck!!
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Yeah the ones on amazon ship to me in October, no earlier. I'm pretty disappointed because I don't use cases or screen protectors on my phones, but my Nexus 5X was fine for 8 months so far with no scratches. I've had this one less than a month and it's starting to get bad.
Before I post this, I have a Pixel 2 on order and am in no way bashing for the sake of it. That being said, its pretty disappointing that the pixel 2 fairs so much worse that the original pixel. The bend at the end is especially sad to see, not sure why they put a weak point in the frame almost in the middle of the one side. That being said, not planning on cancelling as it ticks all the boxes I care about and I certainly don't plan on bending/sitting on my phone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVKnt7H4zVc&t=0s
What are your guys thoughts?
i am getting the 2 xl but
i am somewhat disappointed in the bend test the rest was ok
After seeing the jerryrigeverything test, I definitely feel more cautious about how I handle the phone. I didn't want to get a case and instead opt in for just dbrand skin and screen protector. Now it looks like I at least need to purchase a bumper case
I find most of his points not something I care about.
He spent a ton of time scratching the hell of a lot of time etching the back of the phone when he made the point quickly at the beginning.
For me the phone is too slippery to not use at least a minimal case, then what is going to do all that damage.
If I put the phone on a pocket, it is a front pocket screen in with nothing on the pocket with it. I don't sit on it etc
All of my phones look almost brand new after using for a long time. I am very cautious with my equipment.
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I find most of his points not something I care about.
He spent a ton of time scratching the hell of a lot of time etching the back of the phone when he made the point quickly at the beginning.
For me the phone is too slippery to not use at least a minimal case, then what is going to do all that damage.
If I put the phone on a pocket, it is a front pocket screen in with nothing on the pocket with it. I don't sit on it etc
All of my phones look almost brand new after using for a long time. I am very cautious with my equipment.
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The point he made was pretty crucial though. If material of pockets etc can discolour the paint on the phone, thats a disaster from the start.
The OG Pixel was very poor when it came to durability due to the soft aluminium used as opposed to the harder aluminium of more premium devices like iPhone and OnePlus 5.
The paint used will fare even worse, and unlike anodized aluminium, minor scratches wont simply "rub off", and rather, will likely be permanent.
Thats not even considering the fact that it will chip from any impact.
Also the OG Pixel suffered even when protected with the best case. A tiny piece of dirt can cause chaos if it manages to get in between the phone and case due to the soft metal, so the same will likely apply here.
Baffles me that Google have dropped the ball on hardware again.
To be honest I am a bit disappointed that Google charges so much for these phones and they still not as strong as should be.
Saying that, 6p snapped in half and during my 2 years with it not had a issue with durability so I believe my Pixel 2 will serve me well till Pixel 3 is out
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To be honest I am a bit disappointed that Google charges so much for these phones and they still not as strong as should be.
Saying that, 6p snapped in half and during my 2 years with it not had a issue with durability so I believe my Pixel 2 will serve me well till Pixel 3 is out
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I agree I had a 6 plus when bend gate went down. I thoroughly in a UAG case and didn't worry about it. I the. Gave it to my 13 yr old daughter and she had no issues. Really I cant recall even snapping a phone ever.. this is a non issue. I feel good about going with the Pixel 2 over the XL I feel it's been less issue prone.
I am in construction, and my phone sits in my pocket all day while I am working. It was in my pocket without a case all day on Friday, since my Otterbox hadn't arrived yet, and it did just fine. Since then I have had the case on it, and I don't worry about it.
My phone is about 14 days old. Already have a crack along the antenna line. love the phone otherwise and just want to know if anyone else has the issue. I always have it in a case.
Ksams said:
My phone is about 14 days old. Already have a crack along the antenna line. love the phone otherwise and just want to know if anyone else has the issue. I always have it in a case.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=yyqNR6W_MUQ
Don't know what kind of case you have. I bought the tech 21 it's really rigid. I won't be sitting on this phone lol. In the video he use an awful lot of force I'd never put that kind of force on my phone.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=yyqNR6W_MUQ
Don't know what kind of case you have. I bought the tech 21 it's really rigid. I won't be sitting on this phone lol. In the video he use an awful lot of force I'd never put that kind of force on my phone.
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I have a case that is more on the soft side but I haven't really done much to my phone besides put it in my pocket.
Wow that is so sad! I saw Jerry rigs strength test and it cracks during the bend test at 4 points where the antenna is. Oh god this phone is a nightmare then
Well.. send it it since you still have warranty?
Let's see how widespread an "issue" this is really going to be. I bet it won't be at all. [emoji1]
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Ksams said:
I have a case that is more on the soft side but I haven't really done much to my phone besides put it in my pocket.
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Was it your back pocket?
I smell a troll that saw a youtube video! LOL
I called support yesterday after reading the reports. Tier 1 rep went to Tier 2 to find out. He claimed that this would be covered by warranty barring other evidence of accidental damage - ie; fired from a cannon directly into a woodchipper. I guess I can't play hacky sack with the thing.
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Wow that is so sad! I saw Jerry rigs strength test and it cracks during the bend test at 4 points where the antenna is. Oh god this phone is a nightmare then
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Why exactly does that make this phone a nightmare? The pressure they put on this phone in the test is WAY more than anyone would typically put on it. Put it in your back pocket and sit down, probably, but that would likely be any phone. I've had a ton of different phones, and never, ever had one bend. Even my Blackberry pearl, EVO, or nexus s. Those were way before phones were very sturdy. I seriously doubt most folks will bend this phone.
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Why exactly does that make this phone a nightmare? The pressure they put on this phone in the test is WAY more than anyone would typically put on it. Put it in your back pocket and sit down, probably, but that would likely be any phone. I've had a ton of different phones, and never, ever had one bend. Even my Blackberry pearl, EVO, or nexus s. Those were way before phones were very sturdy. I seriously doubt most folks will bend this phone.
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he forgot this wasn't a reddit post.
No cracks BUT I have official Google case for the xl (grey fabric) and just from taking it in/out of case some of the paint near the seam is coming off. WTF Google!!?? All black variant so I'm pretty pissed. Love the case but how the hell!? It's been in a case since minute 1 and never spent a second naked in my pocket or otherwise.
Ippolito1971 said:
No cracks BUT I have official Google case for the xl (grey fabric) and just from taking it in/out of case some of the paint near the seam is coming off. WTF Google!!?? All black variant so I'm pretty pissed. Love the case but how the hell!? It's been in a case since minute 1 and never spent a second naked in my pocket or otherwise.
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Seems like it's a big F for the glossy finish for the black variant. You could try to warranty it out and see what happens.
Ippolito1971 said:
No cracks BUT I have official Google case for the xl (grey fabric) and just from taking it in/out of case some of the paint near the seam is coming off. WTF Google!!?? All black variant so I'm pretty pissed. Love the case but how the hell!? It's been in a case since minute 1 and never spent a second naked in my pocket or otherwise.
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So as soon as you put it in the case this happened? Well it had to have since it was never outside a case for even a minute. But then you are taking it in and out of the case therefore it's been out for some time. I'm slightly confused as to if it's been out of a case or not. Nonetheless, I had a fabric case on my P3a and that thing is nearly impossible to get off. I did take it off once before the final time and it took me quite some time to get the phone out without damaging it. I'm not sure if the 4xl is the same but you definitely should get a replacement, put it in the case and leave it there.
I agree. I have the Pixel fabric case and find it impossible to take off. I find a good way is to take off the left side completely first. Don't try to take off from the top or bottom.
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So as soon as you put it in the case this happened? Well it had to have since it was never outside a case for even a minute. But then you are taking it in and out of the case therefore it's been out for some time. I'm slightly confused as to if it's been out of a case or not. Nonetheless, I had a fabric case on my P3a and that thing is nearly impossible to get off. I did take it off once before the final time and it took me quite some time to get the phone out without damaging it. I'm not sure if the 4xl is the same but you definitely should get a replacement, put it in the case and leave it there.
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Sure I take it out but it's never touched a surface and never been in my pocket without a case. Primarily using new Pixel 4XL case from Google. It's pretty upsetting.
Probably the taking in and out of the case that's doing it. The stock Google cases fit very tightly, something that holds true with the two aftermarket cases I've also purchased. None of them were easy to get the phone in and out of and were/are tighter than I expect from a case. I mean so far the thing I've done with my phone that is most likely to break a phone is putting it in the cases I've owned.
On the bendy thing I don't buy it at all; it's not just a significant force applied but also done so in a very particular way on the very tip of the ends with a fulcrum in the middle. Try and imagine how you will apply a similar loading to the frame in actual use and it isn't easy to come up with a scenario. Not saying they wont bend or cant be broken but I am saying that I would be very skeptical of anyone claiming they encountered this damage in normal use.
One last thought here is that I wonder or question where the bar is, how strong should the phone be? Obviously it should be able to stand up to the rigors of the day to day but are we starting to expect too much? I'm actually asking, not sure if I can define a realistic expectation for a phones strength. I do feel however that some people are asking too much from what with current technology is inherently going to be a somewhat fragile piece of electronic equipment.
One question did they ever have a bend test for flip phones? Short answer no! Why they would snap in half. I agree I think we are expecting these phones to be tanks.
Here is a better question. Who puts a 1,000 dollar device in their back pocket like it's a .25 cent pack of gum? ?
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Here is a better question. Who puts a 1,000 dollar device in their back pocket like it's a .25 cent pack of gum? ?
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The real question is where are you finding packs of gum for 25¢?