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Hi everyone
I wanna buy a new phone and the specs of Mi4c have catch me compared to it's price, but then there is many review that says it have a heating issue, so now i just wanna ask you as owners of this phone, do you advise me to buy it or to look for another model, i should mention that im not a gamer just from time to time on simple games, i use most this phone for social medias and video calls at skype.
thank you in advance for any help
I did take the plunge and so far i love it My findings:
Beware that mi4c is China only phone originally so don't expect Global MIUI ROM officially. you can try MIUI eu ROM or sMIUI as alternative but in general this phone will stuck with Android 5.1.1 officially, only the MIUI version is upped. the base OS is still the same Lollipop. the best way to enjoy Nougat is with CM but its Marshmallow CM experience is pretty much stable all around at this time of development.
No overheating so far, but then again i flashed into CM from the start so no MIUI for me.
The Rectangular design is Sony like so i love it (subjective ofc)
Great camera and screen quality.
Battery life is on par with any 3000mah flagship so no worries. (but then again i'm using CM here)
BUT..
If you value super battery life, but not great but above average camera and screen, you can grab the Redmi Note 3 (Snapdragon version) with roughly the same price. Plus the Global ROM availabilty is guaranteed for Xiaomi RN3. I personally take mi4c just because i like the design language plus the camera quality proven by GSMArena and others. So there you have it.
The fact it overheats compared to other phones is true, but only partly. Yes, it overheats, but it only does so on miui. I find, using any other custom rom based on aosp or cm, that the issue is completely gone. And when I overheats it really isn't that much of an issue in my experience.
If you ask me, you can't find a better 5"-5.2" phone under 200. If you value community support too it's basically an obligated choice as well.
The overheating isn´t gone with another Rom.
I tried every Rom and still have this problems (not as much as with miui, but still overheating), but with other Roms you could manage the throttling better. So you don´t have lags and freezes while gaming what is important, but for me it heats on 50-65+ on every Rom while play 3d games and rare throttling.
The problem is the 808 - 810 series. Every phone with this cpus overheats.
There is no overheating if you put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave. You should get like 4-5 hours screen-on time and no performace issues. Also the battery should last 48h with normal use.
What you mean with "put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave" ?
At least you have a 30k antutu device and i don´t believe that you can play 3d games well like that. Thats for sure not what the OP want.
I won´t say that the Mi4c is a bad device, price / performance is pretty good, but its not right there aren´t overheating problems. Everyone should now about that issue before he buy it and if i know before that i can just use 60-70 % of the performance i would looking for another device maybe (i tought there is more space above the 68k written in the test results like in every phone with another rom ...).
The best result i get was with RR 5.7.1 constant 55k antutu (heating about ~55°c). With some roms my phone throttle down to 30-40k and i had enormly problems to play NFS, fps 15 after 2-3 mins. With efficient mode i stuck at 45k or less.
For sure not every phone is same, what mean if you are lucky you couldn´t have overheating problems.
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What you mean with "put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave" ?
At least you have a 30k antutu device and i don´t believe that you can play 3d games well like that. Thats for sure not what the OP want.
I won´t say that the Mi4c is a bad device, price / performance is pretty good, but its not right there aren´t overheating problems. Everyone should now about that issue before he buy it and if i know before that i can just use 60-70 % of the performance i would looking for another device maybe (i tought there is more space above the 68k written in the test results like in every phone with another rom ...).
The best result i get was with RR 5.7.1 constant 55k antutu (heating about ~55°c). With some roms my phone throttle down to 30-40k and i had enormly problems to play NFS, fps 15 after 2-3 mins. With efficient mode i stuck at 45k or less.
For sure not every phone is same, what mean if you are lucky you couldn´t have overheating problems.
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thank you for your answer but i just wanna know if it heat on normal usage, like social media, taking photos and skype video calls, cause the main reason i wanna buy this phone is the screen and the camera, i casualy play games and when i do, it just simple games like domino or guessing games.
Well, in your case no. You won´t have overheating problems just for social media etc. and very simple games.
But could be that you find a new game/app wich need performance then you could have. Future ! ;D.
BTW Vector 2 looks like a simple game, Pokemon Go looks like a simple game, a map with some stops but you would have overheating probs (resp. - i have - ~55°c). Just saying ;D.
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Well, in your case no. You won´t have overheating problems just for social media etc. and very simple games.
But could be that you find a new game/app wich need performance then you could have. Future ! ;D.
BTW Vector 2 looks like a simple game, Pokemon Go looks like a simple game, a map with some stops but you would have overheating probs (resp. - i have - ~55°c). Just saying ;D.
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thank you again, i will go for it, i was hesitating between this phone and redmi 3s
The main reason you shouldn't buy a redmi 3s is the well known bug that keeps the phone stuck on 2G in some occasions (you can read more on miui.com or here in xda).
@Danny94, that 55k antutu sounds low. And so does that cpu temperature you were talking about. I wouldn't rule out the possibility it's a defective unit, frankly. With all the roms I've used I've never gotten less than 65k and 72k with my current daily driver - TS CM13.
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What you mean with "put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave" ?
At least you have a 30k antutu device and i don´t believe that you can play 3d games well like that. Thats for sure not what the OP want.
I won´t say that the Mi4c is a bad device, price / performance is pretty good, but its not right there aren´t overheating problems. Everyone should now about that issue before he buy it and if i know before that i can just use 60-70 % of the performance i would looking for another device maybe (i tought there is more space above the 68k written in the test results like in every phone with another rom ...).
The best result i get was with RR 5.7.1 constant 55k antutu (heating about ~55°c). With some roms my phone throttle down to 30-40k and i had enormly problems to play NFS, fps 15 after 2-3 mins. With efficient mode i stuck at 45k or less.
For sure not every phone is same, what mean if you are lucky you couldn´t have overheating problems.
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I had Z5 Premium before mi4c (don't ask why the downgrade) and it does overheat, causing a game like Horizon Chase to stutter after a while. None that i found with mi4c. so even if this phone CPU overheats in games, the impact isn't as pronounced compared to 810 powered phone. Yeah gaming is quite major part in smartphone but it's taken as an in-between activity so in pretty much all other activities, even 810 is still very good as i have used in Z5P and no complain generally.
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The main reason you shouldn't buy a redmi 3s is the well known bug that keeps the phone stuck on 2G in some occasions (you can read more on miui.com or here in xda).
@Danny94, that 55k antutu sounds low. And so does that cpu temperature you were talking about. I wouldn't rule out the possibility it's a defective unit, frankly. With all the roms I've used I've never gotten less than 65k and 72k with my current daily driver - TS CM13.
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last time i test i get around 69k, so pretty good actually.
adrinho987 said:
Hi everyone
I wanna buy a new phone and the specs of Mi4c have catch me compared to it's price, but then there is many review that says it have a heating issue, so now i just wanna ask you as owners of this phone, do you advise me to buy it or to look for another model, i should mention that im not a gamer just from time to time on simple games, i use most this phone for social medias and video calls at skype.
thank you in advance for any help
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You should look at Zuk Z2 (not pro) much better than mi4c
Guys i believe you to reach 69k ... on Antutu, but thats not a true value... I reach 69 k too on first time, you should try to test 5 times or more behind each other until your value doesn´t drop anymore. That was for me 55k on RR 5.7.1, with the most other Roms i was on 35k after 3-5 test.
The first test doesn´t have any sense on this cpu, because of the overheating -> throttle. Or does you play a game for only 3 minutes too ?
Yeah the Zuk Z2 looks great. I like 5" smartphones and at the moment the Zuk Z2 is the best in my opinion, the Rom should be bad, but there are for sure custom roms.
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You should look at Zuk Z2 (not pro) much better than mi4c
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thank you but zuk z2 is around 210$ while mi4c will cost me only 120$
I would go for Mi4S, it worth the upgrade IMO...
As i know the Mi4c has the same hardware like the Mi4s, just small things like fingerprint sensor, sd -slot, little bit more battery, but costs a lot more.
It really depends on the relative price of Mi 4c compared to other devices.
The only thing that makes Mi 4c stand out is its camera quality. It takes amazing photos (though the focus speed is average) and high quality 4k videos (though the lack of stabilization means you need very steady hands).
Performance of Mi 4c is good but it heats too much. Stand-by power consumption is too high (even when compared with nearly identical phones like Mi 4s).
I'm not sure what prices you can get, but in China you can get Mi 5 (3GB RAM, 32GB Storage) for USD250 through the official Mi shop. The Red Mi Note 3 and Note 4 offer metal body, fingerprint sensor, larger battery and similar performance. You can think about them as well. Note that the Red Mi series have noticeably worse camera than Mi 4c.
adrinho987 said:
thank you but zuk z2 is around 210$ while mi4c will cost me only 120$
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$120 for 16gb/2gb model?
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$120 for 16gb/2gb model?
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yeah at aliexpress; actually you can even get it at 109 usd if you are in a country that all sellers in aliexpress ship to
I would try to get at least the 32gb/3gb model
Hy,i want to buy a new smartphone and i want some details about this one from someone who use it.Performance,battery,camera etc. Other sugestions too please. Max 450 euro. Thanks!
I will only list cons.
-Lack of 4k recording. Not a big deal for me
-Gpu is not good enough for upcoming graphic intensive games.Though, almost all games right now run max [email protected] just fine.
-By default, the screen calibration is very poor, too cold.
-Lack of custom roms. This is pretty subjective and may improve in a few months.
Pros? Any other than I listed above.
Fastest android phone when it comes to launching app speed.
Beatiful camera with nice features
Good battery life
And so on..
Recommended? Yes! This device is almost perfect.
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I will only list cons.
-Lack of 4k recording. Not a big deal for me
-Gpu is not good enough for upcoming graphic intensive games.Though, almost all games right now run max [email protected] just fine.
-By default, the screen calibration is very poor, too cold.
-Lack of custom roms. This is pretty subjective and may improve in a few months.
Pros? Any other than I listed above.
Fastest android phone when it comes to launching app speed.
Beatiful camera with nice features
Good battery life
And so on..
Recommended? Yes! This device is almost perfect.
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Thanks for reply,i dont care about 4k recording but i care about gpu...for now i still think that OnePlus 3t is best choice...
Gpu? Then get the oneplus 3/3t.
The cons I list is pretty much pros for oneplus 3/3t.
The GPU is the main drawback for me, but it hasn't been an issue really so far. The frame rate in Dragon Quest 8 isn't great. But I mostly play CPU heavy games (emulators) so it hasn't come up really.
I agree, GPU has never proven to be an issue for me either. I don't play too many games though.
Love this phone really, battery life, stability, design are all perfect.
I don't even mind EMUI that much
excellent device with awesome design,good specs and a descent camera
I would recommend it if you are not interested in rooting it and can live with the EMUI user interface that is very different from the stock Android user interface (I like it though). The Honor 8 has nice, powerfull hardware and a good design for a very reasonable price.
If, however, you intend to unlock/root your device, then I can not recommend it because it does not allow you to change the encryption password of the internal data partition. You will be stuck with a data partition readable to everyone who can get physical access to your device.
I sold my Oneplus 3, then bought the Honor 8. It was a very bad decision. I really miss the freedom, the OIS, the amoled screen, the really fast fingerprint sensor, etc.. IMO, I don't recommend the Honor 8, it has a terrible video quality, pretty bad GPU, the glass get scratched REALLY easily, especially the back. You should get the Oneplus 3t.
No Custom Rom, because Huawei/Honor. Enough said.
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No Custom Rom, because Huawei/Honor. Enough said.
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Unofficial CM13.1 beta is already available; I'm sure more will come.
The con, for me, is the weak glass backing. Scratches easily, likely shatters easily.
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No Custom Rom, because Huawei/Honor. Enough said.
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dont worry bro, unofficial cm13 has aldredy been released
no its sucks lol
Every year I upgrade to the latest S series device. But I end up getting bored and honestly want something different in between. I'm highly considering getting the one plus 7 pro because of the new 90hz 6.7 display . Anyone make the switch from the S10+ and regret it? I used to love the idea of rooting and custom roms so that might be a nice touch to keep me interested in the device. Just wanted some opinions, the note 10+ also has my attention because of ufs3.1 and the slightly tweaked cameras. Price isn't really a factor
I did and haven't looked back...
More freedom and less bloatware
Don't upgrade from S10+, because it's the same processor. Wait until next year to get a phone with a X55 5G modem (better than this year's X50 5G).
Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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I agree 90Hz refresh is a gimmick. People experience a placebo-type effect, I think. The only worthwhile upgrade would come next year when X55 5G modems get used. The S10+ is fantastic, but I didn't buy it because of no bootloader unlock on US Snapdragon variants.
I bit the bullet and ordered one. Yes I realize it had the same basic specs, and I can live with the features I'll be losing. Worse case scenario I keep the S10+ and sell the 7 Pro. I'm praying the display is close to par with the AMOLED screen, and the larger screen size will be a bonus too. I'm expecting the software and the fluentness to impress me. Anyone know if there's a way to disable the volume slider though, not a fan of the physical slider.
90hz a gimmick? WTF? Yeh so are 120hz screens and 4k tv . You must be 1/100000 that can't notice the difference.
90hz IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a gimmick and every other phone to me looks painful after looking at amazing refresh rate of my phone. The 90hz is the real icing on top for this phone which is great in every single way. Great battery life which has been doing nothing but getting better with time due to the phone optimizing itself based on your usage. The screen is big and notch/ hole punch free and the sound is nice and loud while being crisp at the same time. And the camera is not the best but it's not disappointing either. I'm happy with it and I take a decent amount of pictures.
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90hz IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a gimmick and every other phone to me looks painful after looking at amazing refresh rate of my phone. The 90hz is the real icing on top for this phone which is great in every single way. Great battery life which has been doing nothing but getting better with time due to the phone optimizing itself based on your usage. The screen is big and notch/ hole punch free and the sound is nice and loud while being crisp at the same time. And the camera is not the best but it's not disappointing either. I'm happy with it and I take a decent amount of pictures.
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However, should you move from an S10+ to this
I'm not too sure about that. Unless it's an even trade or you throw in like 50 bucks towards it stay where you are.
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Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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Just Compare Pes 2019 on high settings on both exynos & sd. You'll know the difference. Regarding 90 hz I can say that after using this Device If I scroll in App Drawer in my Xs Max I can literally see the icons stuttering or dragging.
Screen Doesn't gets as bright but it is comparable to iPhone on natural mode. I would suggest OP if he's using a SD S10 he should stick with it. Also I would suggest to Uninstall the Netflix app pre installed,If You Don't want dark videos
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90hz a gimmick? WTF? Yeh so are 120hz screens and 4k tv . You must be 1/100000 that can't notice the difference.
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Apparently, running at 90Hz slightly decreases graphical performance on the OnePlus 7 Pro.
Don't switch from a S10 - you won't notice enough benefit.
Sure, having a screen with no notches or cutouts is nice; and yes, *some* things look better at 90Hz, but it kills your battery quicker, and actually, I don't really mind about scrolling smoothness in Chrome - I'd far rather like the extra refresh in all games (which you DON'T get right now).
Also, you'll loose wireless charging, IP68, and being honest, a bit of build quality. If you're really thinking of leaving the S10, how about going to the Note 10 instead?
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Don't switch from a S10 - you won't notice enough benefit.
Sure, having a screen with no notches or cutouts is nice; and yes, *some* things look better at 90Hz, but it kills your battery quicker, and actually, I don't really mind about scrolling smoothness in Chrome - I'd far rather like the extra refresh in all games (which you DON'T get right now).
Also, you'll loose wireless charging, IP68, and being honest, a bit of build quality. If you're really thinking of leaving the S10, how about going to the Note 10 instead?
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As someone who has tried both, there is a huge difference. The S10+ is a laughable phone compared to the OP7Pro. Scrolling looks laggy, apps open slower, worse game performance, worse thermals, Terrible standby drain, Ugly front camera, Slow fingerprint, broken Snapchat camera, etc. The list goes on and on
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I agree 90Hz refresh is a gimmick. People experience a placebo-type effect, I think. The only worthwhile upgrade would come next year when X55 5G modems get used. The S10+ is fantastic, but I didn't buy it because of no bootloader unlock on US Snapdragon variants.
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90hz gimmick. Placebo effect lmaoooo.... 90hz 120hz. Is the future. Processors are already fast enought and are limited by the 60hz hardware. What 90hz does is increase os fluidity(smoothness) by 50%. Now when i loom at my iphone xs max which suppost to be the smoothest phone around. It look jerky stuttery and not smooth.... Not because it is, is because of the 60hz limitation. Is the same that your car is really fast. Can beat most car on a race.... Now u demo a much faster car (50% faster). U will be so impress....that When u go back to ur car. U will feel it so slow.... Not because it is. Is because u demo a much faster car. After a few day of driving ur car u will then again see that ur car is fast. Same with 90hz 120hz
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90hz gimmick. Placebo effect lmaoooo.... 90hz 120hz. Is the future. Processors are already fast enought and are limited by the 60hz hardware. What 90hz does is increase os fluidity(smoothness) by 50%. Now when i loom at my iphone xs max which suppost to be the smoothest phone around. It look jerky stuttery and not smooth.... Not because it is, is because of the 60hz limitation. Is the same that your car is really fast. Can beat most car on a race.... Now u demo a much faster car (50% faster). U will be so impress....that When u go back to ur car. U will feel it so slow.... Not because it is. Is because u demo a much faster car. After a few day of driving ur car u will then again see that ur car is fast. Same with 90hz 120hz
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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No it doesnt. There app not optimize for 90hz,. Just like benchmarking apps which even if un have 90hz will run the 3d games a 60hz... Now use the mod of forcing 90hz on everything. By the way. I get 9hour sot forcing 90hz all time and 1440p (qhd). I hear people complaining that it drain ur battery. Like if 90hz u will only get 2 hour sot. .. if 9hour sot with 90hz on is not good enough. I really know no what are people expecting
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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This is absolutely correct. Anything else is like saying "Concorde is a faster plane than a spitfire" - they're NOT comparable!
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Arden144 said:
As someone who has tried both, there is a huge difference. The S10+ is a laughable phone compared to the OP7Pro. Scrolling looks laggy, apps open slower, worse game performance, worse thermals, Terrible standby drain, Ugly front camera, Slow fingerprint, broken Snapchat camera, etc. The list goes on and on
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I was unaware that Snapchat had dedicated cameras on either the S10+ *OR* the OnePlus 7 Pro. I stopped bothering to read after that statement!
I didn't like the s10+ and I switched to Op7 pro.
Another planet imho, I really enjoy this phone and I never miss my s10+, cameras too.
Exynos s10+ is garbage imho, really not such a good device as review tell.
OP7 pro beats/pair s10+ in everything in my daily use, and this is my first OnePlus phone...Never going back to Samsung honestly!
Sreen is so better on op7 pro in my opinion, never liked the s10+ screen because of reduced blue light filter.
Oh, and vibration. Dude, really? The vibration on op7 pro is gorgeous...
Warp charge destroy s10+ exynos charge time, and battery is similar but op7 pro doesn't consume so much on standby and when using camera.
My op7 pro never get hot when I'm using it.
Just some random thoughts...
Love this phone!
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Another positive OnePlus 7Pro review today...
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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bruh..i mean i get it, some are fanboys and like their brand, but honestly... 90hz is definately noticable if you dont see it you just wont accept that something beats your loved phone somewhere
and the exynos samsung phones are just not worth the price, the processor is just garbage compared to the sd variants (compared a note 9 with exynos with s9 with sd and s9 was better in nearly every way)
anyway back to the topic:
samsung phones have more, if not all features you want or need, like if you already have a samsung device (watch eg) it makes sense to stay with samsung because it seems to function just better, but if you want a clean smooth experience just grab a op7 pro and feel good
Can anyone make a kernel with overclock. It's probably the most reasonable device for OC because of large surface area, aluminum and proper cooling interface. But development is zero. I was running all cores in performance governor and it doesn't affect temperature or battery in noticeable way. I am sure it would be beneficial to OC. Is there an easy way to do it myself? After seeing that tab s7 is noticeably worse everywhere and overall: weight wise, battery, life screen, speakers and microphone it's obvious that there is no need to pay for downgrade. We can topple up our cpu close to 865 level which looks as mostly verison with higher clock.
That would be awesome, I guess eventually someone may develop something.
As with the latest commitment of Samsung to support 3 years of SW updates this machine suddenly became a lot more future proof than I expected so together with an optimized and oc'ed kernel that would be awesome.
Great stuff.
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As with the latest commitment of Samsung to support 3 years of SW updates this machine suddenly
Great stuff.
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oh really? that's great
and yeah i wonder why no one develop custom kernel for tab s6, and note 10 too with the same cpu, but there are kernels with others like one plus etc
I know this has been done with other phones. Manufacturers are software capping these panels and hoping they don't eat into their more pricey devices (ie pixel 6/ 6 pro) by performing these anti-consumer practices. It would be grealyt appreciated if we can get higher than pathetic 60hz in 2022.
"pathetic" 60hz is good enough for 85% of people who would by this phone.
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"pathetic" 60hz is good enough for 85% of people who would by this phone.
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Only thing is I think more like 95%. Anyone concerned that much wouldn't buy the phone. But a 6.1" device... ahh heaven. Never again will I get anything larger.
usually the way refresh rate is done on devices is hardware. Its not like your computer monitor where you can overclock it. There are hardware limits.
Nothing google has done on the 6a is "anti-consumer" because the screen won't go over 60hz...
You can't make a 60Hz screen run at 90Hz, but you can make a 90Hz screen run at 60Hz to save battery life.
Odds are Google put a 60Hz screen in the phone to cut down on the overall cost. If they put in a 90 Hz screen, they would have marketed it as such because more people would be attracted to the phone with that feature.
sic0048 said:
You can't make a 60Hz screen run at 90Hz, but you can make a 90Hz screen run at 60Hz to save battery life.
Odds are Google put a 60Hz screen in the phone to cut down on the overall cost. If they put in a 90 Hz screen, they would have marketed it as such because more people would be attracted to the phone with that feature.
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Exactly. "Overclocking" a display panel is difficult at best, impossible at worst. If you want a 90Hz screen, buy a Pixel 6. Don't buy a mid range device and expect premium features.
Hmmm????
Google Pixel 6a display was turned into operating at 90Hz
sic0048 said:
You can't make a 60Hz screen run at 90Hz, but you can make a 90Hz screen run at 60Hz to save battery life.
Odds are Google put a 60Hz screen in the phone to cut down on the overall cost. If they put in a 90 Hz screen, they would have marketed it as such because more people would be attracted to the phone with that feature.
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There would be two reasons to throttle the refresh rate; Battery Life and Thermal issues.
120Hz would be insane but I'd gladly take 90Hz...
In case some of u haven't heard...
Ongoing Pixel 6a 90Hz display testing shows better success
The Pixel 6a 90Hz mod still isn't public, but you've got more reasons to be optimistic about it now
www.androidpolice.com
It may take some but this moder is known for boosting refresh rates.
He also said the 6a panel is made by Samsung and is capable 120Hz refresh rates. The story mentions...
"The current solution also requires manually flashing an image to one of the system partitions, which means unlocking your bootloader, breaking SafetyNet, etc., so it could be too big of a pain for most of our readers to attempt."
Oh my!! You mean that shady and back-breaking act of unlocking, rooting and breaking SaftyNet...which can be fixed with a simple Magisk mod!? It's easy to see that AP knows who 'butters it's bread' with tons of advertising...
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There would be two reasons to throttle the refresh rate; Battery Life and Thermal issues.
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Three. Keep the distance to the Pixel 6.
I have only turned my pixel 5 to 90hz maybe a dozen times since owning since release day. I turn it on to play once 6a came out and honestly, 60hz is fine, but everyone different.
I'd just wait for the Pixel 7 if 90hz is a huge issue. Or get a P5 or P5a or P6
Many a good Pixel to choose from.
As it seems when someone express a wish on this thread, it come true... Soooo, what about breaking that 18W charging limit ?
(joking)
natheux said:
As it seems when someone express a wish on this thread, it come true... Soooo, what about breaking that 18W charging limit ?
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Big NO..
Don't do it.. You might set your apartment on fire..
Looks like the cry babies got their wish of 90hz. I almost wish you hadn't. Its such a dumb thing to complain so heavily about.
Even if it did support 90hz out of the box, 3 of my spare phones support up to 120, and i run them at 60. anything above 60 on such a small screen just personally makes me dizzy.
Hope most of you realize its more than likely a dangerous overclocking game that will wear out the display far more quickly.
Most people don't have dizzy issues tho. You prefer 60...that's just fine, but don't rag on other for wanting the best experience possible...esp from a mid-ranger with a flagship processor! Smh...
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Most people don't have dizzy issues tho. You prefer 60...that's just fine, but don't rag on other for wanting the best experience possible...esp from a mid-ranger with a flagship processor! Smh...
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its the way they complained. Idc what people do or don't enjoy... I'm ragging on it because of the way they IMMEDIATELY complained about a BUDGET DEVICE not having a high end device feature, and demanding hackers/modders find a way to do it. And its definitely not equal to a flagship processor.
The Tensor is the same as in the Pixel 6 Pro...a flagship device.
I agree tho...there were 2 separate threads started, like right off the bat, that shoulda been combined imo and yeah it was annoying...
Being a root/mod user and a PC builder on a budget, I guess I am a bit partial... I'm always tryin' to squeeze the BBB outta everything I build/buy. (oh, BBB=Best Bang for the Buck)
With a PC it's easy, if u want better gfx, you buy a better gfx card. If you want faster load times, you get a faster chipset...and so on.
But with a phone you're stuck. U have to buy smart and choose well. For me, the 6a is the best (phone) buy/upgrade I've ever made, coming from a P4a even.
CYB3R0ID694 said:
Hmmm????
Google Pixel 6a display was turned into operating at 90Hz
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Sigh.... Yes I'm correct. A bunch of fools in this thread. I've overclocked countless TV and monitors past their advertised refresh rate.
I hope 90Hz will be released in future hentaiOS build. Best solution would be to have it as Magisk module or custom kernel though
any news about this ?