Hi,
I am buying nubia z17mini from chinese website
to2c.com
I am confused between what to select.
They are giving this option
of either having original global ROM without google play but you get OTA updates or option of customized Global ROM with google play store installed but no OTA
I will be using the phone in India
Thanks
Victor
RE:I am buying nubia z17mini from chinese website
VictorAv8r said:
Hi,
I am buying nubia z17mini from chinese website
to2c.com
I am confused between what to select.
They are giving this option
of either having original global ROM without google play but you get OTA updates or option of customized Global ROM with google play store installed but no OTA
I will be using the phone in India
Thanks
Victor
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DO NOT! WAIT UNTIL OFFICIAL EU OR INTERNATIONAL ROM APPEARS WITH GOOGLE SERVICES. I MADE THE MISTAKE TO GET ONE EARLY WITH THE UNOFFICIAL SELLER'S ROM WITH G.APPS BUT IT DIDN'T MANAGE WELL THE HARDWARE (i.e bluetooth not working). THEN I INSTALL THE OFFICIAL CN ROM WITHOUT G.APPS WITH LOT OF UNWANTED AND UNUSABLE CHINESE APPS AND THEN MY DEVICE IS USED ONLY AS MOBILE PHONE BACK IN 90's... I TRIED TO ROOT AND MANUALLY INSTALL G.APPS BUT NO ROOT METHOD WORKS (KINGROOT, KINGO ROOT, BAIDU ROOT). I MUST WAIT UNTIL OFFICIAL ROM APPEARS.
I live in China so currently I can only buy this phone customized for China- no Google apps and only some local crappy app stores.
I know it's possible to install Google services/store etc. on Chinese phones, but would it be possible to just flash some stock "Western" ROM on it?
Are there any stock ROMs from OnePlus available for international versions?
How can I tell if the phone I'd be buying here is "flashable"- how can I check it at the store ?
There are all 3 versions available here (6/8/12GB ram)
Chinese version uses hytrogen OS, you can try flash oxygen OS(stock os on international version)through "local upgrade" .
Some personal experience：
I bought Chinese version too and I directly flashed zip in this thread through local upgrade, the OS changed to Oxygen OS as expected but Google play store somehow wasn't installed, so I factory reseted my phone, then everything works fine now.
Note: Chinese version got a system update after it was released if you performed that upgrade you may not able to flash oxygen os because version number(9.5.4) is higher on hytrogen os than on oxygen os(9.5.3).
Note 2: This thread provide 9.5.4 oxygen os now so if you already performed upgrade on hytrogen os you can try flash 9.5.4 oxgyen os.
Hi, I'd like to hop on this thread to ask a similar question.
So right now I'm in China and will stay for a few weeks. I've been wanting to get my habds on a 7 pro since I learned about it, and I'll be residing in S.Korea for the foreseeable future.
I have an option to purchase the device from the US official website and have an agency deliver it to me at my Korean address (I'm assuming the US version retails as the global version GM1917 I believe?). All in all it'll cost around $790.
Or I can purchase the cheaper, chinese version while I'm here and install the Oxygen OS on it as I'm told it's a rather simple procedure for Oneplus phones. I've never tried any sort of unlocking/bootloader/flash/custom rom stuff so I'm not entirely familiar with all this but it seems doable if i tread carefully.
The question that stands however, is whether or not there will be any difference at all between the two. I believe the Chinese model is named GM1910, I'm assuming there are some hardware differences like band support, but then again I can't find a clear answer on this. I've also heard that flashing the OOS might mean it wont be google play digital certified (not entirely sure if i got the name right or what it does) and I might encounter widevine issues. But then again I've seen people mention the hardware is the same so as long as I convert the OS it should work like a breeze as if it was the global version.
I'd appreciate any help and guidance in this matter. Also by flashing the OS would that mean I'd have to manually apply OTA patches whenever they're released? I'm not too concerned on warranty issues but if you guys have anything crucial I should keep in mind about it I'd be grateful for the help.
Thanks in advance.
Heniuro said:
I live in China so currently I can only buy this phone customized for China- no Google apps and only some local crappy app stores.
I know it's possible to install Google services/store etc. on Chinese phones, but would it be possible to just flash some stock "Western" ROM on it?
Are there any stock ROMs from OnePlus available for international versions?
How can I tell if the phone I'd be buying here is "flashable"- how can I check it at the store ?
There are all 3 versions available here (6/8/12GB ram)
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All version sold in china is "flashable", just pick up the specs/color you prefered.
For the switching the system from HOS(Chinese version) to OOS(global version), it's simple:
1. flash the newest Oxygen OS(GM21AA, for global version) through system update;
2. reboot to recovery;
3. wipe all data of your phone
Done.
For more details, you can check it out here(outside of xda, writen in Chinese): bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=17296199
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SteelMentos said:
Hi, I'd like to hop on this thread to ask a similar question.
So right now I'm in China and will stay for a few weeks. I've been wanting to get my habds on a 7 pro since I learned about it, and I'll be residing in S.Korea for the foreseeable future.
I have an option to purchase the device from the US official website and have an agency deliver it to me at my Korean address (I'm assuming the US version retails as the global version GM1917 I believe?). All in all it'll cost around $790.
Or I can purchase the cheaper, chinese version while I'm here and install the Oxygen OS on it as I'm told it's a rather simple procedure for Oneplus phones. I've never tried any sort of unlocking/bootloader/flash/custom rom stuff so I'm not entirely familiar with all this but it seems doable if i tread carefully.
The question that stands however, is whether or not there will be any difference at all between the two. I believe the Chinese model is named GM1910, I'm assuming there are some hardware differences like band support, but then again I can't find a clear answer on this. I've also heard that flashing the OOS might mean it wont be google play digital certified (not entirely sure if i got the name right or what it does) and I might encounter widevine issues. But then again I've seen people mention the hardware is the same so as long as I convert the OS it should work like a breeze as if it was the global version.
I'd appreciate any help and guidance in this matter. Also by flashing the OS would that mean I'd have to manually apply OTA patches whenever they're released? I'm not too concerned on warranty issues but if you guys have anything crucial I should keep in mind about it I'd be grateful for the help.
Thanks in advance.
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Widevine downgrading(L1 -> L3) happened when you unlock the bootloader. If you just get an chinese version OP7P, switching system from HOS to OOS, it's ok to do it through system update, while maintaining the widevine level.
After switching to OOS 9.5.3, my chinese version OP7P works pretty fine with all google service(except google pay, no environment to test it)
SteelMentos said:
Hi, I'd like to hop on this thread to ask a similar question.
So right now I'm in China and will stay for a few weeks. I've been wanting to get my habds on a 7 pro since I learned about it, and I'll be residing in S.Korea for the foreseeable future.
I have an option to purchase the device from the US official website and have an agency deliver it to me at my Korean address (I'm assuming the US version retails as the global version GM1917 I believe?). All in all it'll cost around $790.
Or I can purchase the cheaper, chinese version while I'm here and install the Oxygen OS on it as I'm told it's a rather simple procedure for Oneplus phones. I've never tried any sort of unlocking/bootloader/flash/custom rom stuff so I'm not entirely familiar with all this but it seems doable if i tread carefully.
The question that stands however, is whether or not there will be any difference at all between the two. I believe the Chinese model is named GM1910, I'm assuming there are some hardware differences like band support, but then again I can't find a clear answer on this. I've also heard that flashing the OOS might mean it wont be google play digital certified (not entirely sure if i got the name right or what it does) and I might encounter widevine issues. But then again I've seen people mention the hardware is the same so as long as I convert the OS it should work like a breeze as if it was the global version.
I'd appreciate any help and guidance in this matter. Also by flashing the OS would that mean I'd have to manually apply OTA patches whenever they're released? I'm not too concerned on warranty issues but if you guys have anything crucial I should keep in mind about it I'd be grateful for the help.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm not sure if there are any hardware difference between Chinese model and other model, but I'm sure Google play is still certified on Chinese model after flashing OOS. Widevine level won't change as long as you don't unlock bootloader and you won't need to unlock bootloader if you only want to flash OOS.
I used to have a Chinese version OnePlus 5, I flashed OOS on it and everything works pretty well for two years, OTA always works. I assume everything is the same on OnePlus 7 pro.
oo304oo said:
All version sold in china is "flashable", just pick up the specs/color you prefered.
For the switching the system from HOS(Chinese version) to OOS(global version), it's simple:
1. flash the newest Oxygen OS(GM21AA, for global version) through system update;
2. reboot to recovery;
3. wipe all data of your phone
Done.
For more details, you can check it out here(outside of xda, writen in Chinese): bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=17296199
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Hey, thanks for the reply! for some reason I can't quote the edited latter part of your post.
It's great to know its as simple as you said. But like I mentioned I'm quite new to all this so I hope you're fine that your answer also raised some questions for me.
So if there's no influence on widevine, why would people go the extra effort to unlock the bootloader? Isn't it primarily to flash a fresh ROM which would mean the end goal is basically the same is it not? Would my OS converted phone be any different to that of a bootloader unlocked one in regards to performing identical as a global version 7 pro?
Thanks so much for the help!
SteelMentos said:
Hey, thanks for the reply! for some reason I can't quote the edited latter part of your post.
It's great to know its as simple as you said. But like I mentioned I'm quite new to all this so I hope you're fine that your answer also raised some questions for me.
So if there's no influence on widevine, why would people go the extra effort to unlock the bootloader? Isn't it primarily to flash a fresh ROM which would mean the end goal is basically the same is it not? Would my OS converted phone be any different to that of a bootloader unlocked one in regards to performing identical as a global version 7 pro?
Thanks so much for the help!
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People unlock bootloader because they want to root their phone or flash third-party ROM. Bootloader has to be unlocked if you want to flash anything other than stock ROM or other stock things.
lzwhuhu said:
People unlock bootloader because they want to root their phone or flash third-party ROM. Bootloader has to be unlocked if you want to flash anything other than stock ROM or other stock things.
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Thanks you are amazing. I think I can safely go with the Chonese version. One last question though, would tweaking for VoLTE require any rooting?
SteelMentos said:
Thanks you are amazing. I think I can safely go with the Chonese version. One last question though, would tweaking for VoLTE require any rooting?
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Glad I can help.
If you're in China, I don't think you need to tweak anything to use VoLTE no matter which OS you're using (Hytrogen OS or Oxygen OS), there are three main telecom operators in China: CMCC, China Net and China Unicom.
CMCC already support VoLTE so if you're using CMCC's service your phone will enable VoLTE automatically once you plug in the SIM card and detected signal.
China Net added support for VoLTE very recently, so VoLTE should be automatically enabled too once you plug in a China Net's SIM card, but I'm not sure about this because I'm not using any China Net's service.
China Unicom does not support VoLTE until June 1st 2019, you won't be able to use VoLTE till then in any method if you are using China Unicom's service (Google Fi and some international roaming use China Unicom's service so no VoLTE for Google Fi and those roaming yet)
Dual VoLTE with dual SIM should work too, I'm using CMCC and China Unicom dual sim and VoLTE icon on my status bar have a "1" next to it(VoLTE1), I think there will be a VoLTE2 after China Unicom support VoLTE.
I know little about these Telecom operators things outside of China, but I think Oxygen OS support most country's VoLTE service as long as their Telecom operators support VoLTE.
I'm new here, my op7 pro is on the way to me, I'm in China too, so I should unbox it, do not upgrade, download the oxygen os and flash it directly? Than I'll get a "global version" op 7 pro, will it work?
Good day,
I have a Vivo X30 Pro (V1938T), and I would like to know what custom ROM I can install to it, as I am not the biggest fan of the Chinese ROM.
The device is not Google Certified. I only found this out after I got the phone along with the Chinese only ROM. I can however still use the Play store and services fully. Is the certification a requirement for custom ROM?
Thank you in advance.
Mr_Tech_Guy said:
Good day,
I have a Vivo X30 Pro (V1938T), and I would like to know what custom ROM I can install to it, as I am not the biggest fan of the Chinese ROM.
The device is not Google Certified. I only found this out after I got the phone along with the Chinese only ROM. I can however still use the Play store and services fully. Is the certification a requirement for custom ROM?
Thank you in advance.
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check your device if is compatible with project treble
Hello, I have a phone I ordered from China and received it two weeks ago with working google services - I'm really happy with this phone and the ROM(even though I tried unlocking the bootloader in order to change ROM to eu. but that didn't work).
Does anyone have experience with updating a Chinese ROM phone and not losing google services?
would love for some help or direction to some sources on this issue
maikel2201 said:
Hello, I have a phone I ordered from China and received it two weeks ago with working google services - I'm really happy with this phone and the ROM(even though I tried unlocking the bootloader in order to change ROM to eu. but that didn't work).
Does anyone have experience with updating a Chinese ROM phone and not losing google services?
would love for some help or direction to some sources on this issue
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In ROM China you will have problems with Google
The best way is to install a custom Eu ROM
The new version of the custom ROM is very easy to install
Just need to unlock the bootloader
Google Services works fine even in China beta. Basic Google Services are included as with all Snapdragon 8xx phones with MIUI. You only have to install Play Store manually and also calendar sync.
Hi all,
I'm looking to replace my Huawei Honor 5 tablet, which have been an absolute disaster with the lack of google play and any attempts to install apks fail to get it working consistently.
My question on Lenovo P11 Plus tablet is what is the difference between the Chinese and Global ROM?
I'm looking to buy the tablet off the official Lenovo website from taobao directly. (no Global ROM) The spec says Android 10, not 11.
My essential requirement is the ability for OTA updates, full google play support and certification. Just don't want the risk of having any issues with google play as my son will be using it and certain apps need connection with google play. Or is it regional locked in that if I use the tablet in Australia, I can't use certain features?
I am presuming streaming service will work with the Chinese ROM?
Thank you!
Hi,
I own a P11 Pro (former CN). Because of Plus have different SoC I can't tell you how easy it is to change ROM. For Qualcomm it is easy.
The CN ROM on my P11Pro does NOT have Google Apps on it. It was complete chinese. App, Store everyting.You can change language to english but it remains all china.
After flashin ROW aka Global ROM it became fully international WITH all Google services as we non china people know Android.
BUT Lenovo can identify whre the device comes from, based on the serial number.
If you try to register it, you will fail with CN serial an overseas.
So there is no guarantee that a re-flased device keeps certified.
Before re-flashing you should backup everthing.
I have missed that so I lost device certification an Widevine.
On Qualcomm you need to backup seqveral partionins (better all) and a so called QCN with EFS.
Don't know how this works on Plus with Mediatek SoC.
Best regards
CryptMan said:
Hi,
I own a P11 Pro (former CN). Because of Plus have different SoC I can't tell you how easy it is to change ROM. For Qualcomm it is easy.
The CN ROM on my P11Pro does NOT have Google Apps on it. It was complete chinese. App, Store everyting.You can change language to english but it remains all china.
After flashin ROW aka Global ROM it became fully international WITH all Google services as we non china people know Android.
BUT Lenovo can identify whre the device comes from, based on the serial number.
If you try to register it, you will fail with CN serial an overseas.
So there is no guarantee that a re-flased device keeps certified.
Before re-flashing you should backup everthing.
I have missed that so I lost device certification an Widevine.
On Qualcomm you need to backup seqveral partionins (better all) and a so called QCN with EFS.
Don't know how this works on Plus with Mediatek SoC.
Best regards
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hi, im also going to buy this xiaoxin p11 pro, do you know if hdr and dolby vision work on youtube, vlc, steam link or i will have to flash the rom?
Hi,
did not tried this with CN ROM, with ROW/Global ROM HDR was working in Netflix.
Best regards
CryptMan said:
Hi,
I own a P11 Pro (former CN). Because of Plus have different SoC I can't tell you how easy it is to change ROM. For Qualcomm it is easy.
The CN ROM on my P11Pro does NOT have Google Apps on it. It was complete chinese. App, Store everyting.You can change language to english but it remains all china.
After flashin ROW aka Global ROM it became fully international WITH all Google services as we non china people know Android.
BUT Lenovo can identify whre the device comes from, based on the serial number.
If you try to register it, you will fail with CN serial an overseas.
So there is no guarantee that a re-flased device keeps certified.
Before re-flashing you should backup everthing.
I have missed that so I lost device certification an Widevine.
On Qualcomm you need to backup seqveral partionins (better all) and a so called QCN with EFS.
Don't know how this works on Plus with Mediatek SoC.
Best regards
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.In your version does not bring Google Services? How weird, in mine yes, but I needed to install the apk from the Play Store to make it work.
Maybe it depends on each Tablet