ROM selection - General Questions and Answers

Hi,
I am buying nubia z17mini from chinese website
to2c.com
I am confused between what to select.
They are giving this option
of either having original global ROM without google play but you get OTA updates or option of customized Global ROM with google play store installed but no OTA
I will be using the phone in India
Thanks
Victor

RE:I am buying nubia z17mini from chinese website
VictorAv8r said:
Hi,
I am buying nubia z17mini from chinese website
to2c.com
I am confused between what to select.
They are giving this option
of either having original global ROM without google play but you get OTA updates or option of customized Global ROM with google play store installed but no OTA
I will be using the phone in India
Thanks
Victor
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DO NOT! WAIT UNTIL OFFICIAL EU OR INTERNATIONAL ROM APPEARS WITH GOOGLE SERVICES. I MADE THE MISTAKE TO GET ONE EARLY WITH THE UNOFFICIAL SELLER'S ROM WITH G.APPS BUT IT DIDN'T MANAGE WELL THE HARDWARE (i.e bluetooth not working). THEN I INSTALL THE OFFICIAL CN ROM WITHOUT G.APPS WITH LOT OF UNWANTED AND UNUSABLE CHINESE APPS AND THEN MY DEVICE IS USED ONLY AS MOBILE PHONE BACK IN 90's... I TRIED TO ROOT AND MANUALLY INSTALL G.APPS BUT NO ROOT METHOD WORKS (KINGROOT, KINGO ROOT, BAIDU ROOT). I MUST WAIT UNTIL OFFICIAL ROM APPEARS.

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all installed apps showing up on the home "pages"?

bought a mix 2s in hong kong last week, it's 128gb so it's chinese version
the store installed google play on it but it's still using the chinese rom (now it's 9.5.18.0 ODGCNFA)
as of now every newly installed app will show up on the home pages which makes them really cluttered
still not sure if it's worth unlocking bootloader and trying the global eu rom instead since i've synced my email on it, i was afraid i will need to go everything all over again
any advice on how to make the apps i want on the home pages to be there instead of each and every app?
thanks in advance
Qvoth said:
bought a mix 2s in hong kong last week, it's 128gb so it's chinese version
the store installed google play on it but it's still using the chinese rom (now it's 9.5.18.0 ODGCNFA)
as of now every newly installed app will show up on the home pages which makes them really cluttered
still not sure if it's worth unlocking bootloader and trying the global eu rom instead since i've synced my email on it, i was afraid i will need to go everything all over again
any advice on how to make the apps i want on the home pages to be there instead of each and every app?
thanks in advance
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dude, that's MIUI!
if you buy any Xiaomi phone you don't get an app drawer. all apps are placed on the homescreens.
if you want an app drawer where all your apps will be placed and you can decide which one of those are visible on your homescreens then you need to install a launcher. I recommend Nova launcher, but there are many other launchers available.
look at some videos comparing different launchers and choose one to your liking.
whaaaaaaaaat? lol that's so stupid
i'll check out some launchers, thanks man
off topic, but is there any benefit in installing the global eu rom over the chinese one?
Qvoth said:
whaaaaaaaaat? lol that's so stupid
i'll check out some launchers, thanks man
off topic, but is there any benefit in installing the global eu rom over the chinese one?
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Global EU isn't an official MIUI ROM. I really think you would be better off installing the official Global ROM instead. But you need to look at the model name in the about phone screen. If the model ends in XE you have the Chinese model. If it ends in XA you have the global model. If you have the XE version and choose to unlock your bootloader and install the Global ROM it's very important that you don't relock the bootloader which is easy to accidentally do with the MI Flash Tool. If you relock the bootloader you will brick your phone and it will only be good for use as a paperweight.
ok, but is there any actual benefit in the official global rom over the chinese rom?
Qvoth said:
ok, but is there any actual benefit in the official global rom over the chinese rom?
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Better google integration, more languages but less features. Xioami.eu rom is a mixture of both Based on chinese stable but optmized for global use...

Help flash EU official firmware on China version BKL-AL20*?

Hi i have a new v10 coming however it is the china version with chinese software so no default google services, i was wondering is is possible to flash official EU firmware manually and NOT void warranty? Im coming from Samsungs so dont have much any experience with Honor firmwares. If anyone can provide me the correct links and guide that would be very appreciated. To confirm, i dont want to root, or flash a custom bootloader, just require a pure official EU firmware and keep warranty intact.
Thanks for your help
kuljit55 said:
Hi i have a new v10 coming however it is the china version with chinese software so no default google services, i was wondering is is possible to flash official EU firmware manually and NOT void warranty? Im coming from Samsungs so dont have much any experience with Honor firmwares. If anyone can provide me the correct links and guide that would be very appreciated. To confirm, i dont want to root, or flash a custom bootloader, just require a pure official EU firmware and keep warranty intact.
Thanks for your help
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The only way to flash Eu Firmware,with unlocked Bootloader but no warranty
letschky said:
The only way to flash Eu Firmware,with unlocked Bootloader but no warranty
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Thanks for your reply, as the china version does not have google play store or services, if i install them manually, will they stay on the phone after ota updates or do you have to reinstall the google services each time? Thanks
kuljit55 said:
Thanks for your reply, as the china version does not have google play store or services, if i install them manually, will they stay on the phone after ota updates or do you have to reinstall the google services each time? Thanks
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Download Playstore,Google Calendar Sync and Contact Sync from Apk Mirror install it and give Permissions.
After an ota update everything remains installed

Help! just recived 12.5.7.0 update - is my google services at risk?

Hello, I have a phone I ordered from China and received it two weeks ago with working google services - I'm really happy with this phone and the ROM(even though I tried unlocking the bootloader in order to change ROM to eu. but that didn't work).
Does anyone have experience with updating a Chinese ROM phone and not losing google services?
would love for some help or direction to some sources on this issue
maikel2201 said:
Hello, I have a phone I ordered from China and received it two weeks ago with working google services - I'm really happy with this phone and the ROM(even though I tried unlocking the bootloader in order to change ROM to eu. but that didn't work).
Does anyone have experience with updating a Chinese ROM phone and not losing google services?
would love for some help or direction to some sources on this issue
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In ROM China you will have problems with Google
The best way is to install a custom Eu ROM
The new version of the custom ROM is very easy to install
Just need to unlock the bootloader
Google Services works fine even in China beta. Basic Google Services are included as with all Snapdragon 8xx phones with MIUI. You only have to install Play Store manually and also calendar sync.

Question Chinese ROM vs Global / Indian ROM

Hi all,
So I am interested in buying a Realme GT Neo 2, however I will likely buy the Chinese version as it is easier and chaeper for me to find and purchase (Aliexpress).
I see most stores say they will open the box and flash the Global ROM for you before shipping. Not sure how true this is, but anyways...
I wanted to find out if with the Chinese ROM, does it have the same issues as Xiaomi / Redmi with the Chinese ROM where when the device is locked you do not get messages.
For example, with the Redmi Note 11 Pro (Chinese ROM). If I am using Whatsapp or Telegram, it works fine but once I lock the phone after a minute or so when the phone is in sleep mode I do not get messages or any whatsapp / telegram calls.
I have to unlock the phone before those messages are downloaded and come through to my phone - is this the case with the Chinese ROM on the GT Neo 2?
If so, will this be fixed by flashing the Global or Indian ROM? I know with Xiaomi, if you flash the Global ROM then this is no longer a problem. It seems that the Chinese ROM for Xiaomi is very aggressive with how it manages apps when the phone is sleepings or when the apps are running in the background.
This is my main concern and the only thing stopping me from buying this phone now.
@KD6-3.7 Maybe you can give me some advice, you seem to have a lot of knowledge with Realme and the GT Neo 2.
PsyCLown89 said:
Hi all,
So I am interested in buying a Realme GT Neo 2, however I will likely buy the Chinese version as it is easier and chaeper for me to find and purchase (Aliexpress).
I see most stores say they will open the box and flash the Global ROM for you before shipping. Not sure how true this is, but anyways...
I wanted to find out if with the Chinese ROM, does it have the same issues as Xiaomi / Redmi with the Chinese ROM where when the device is locked you do not get messages.
For example, with the Redmi Note 11 Pro (Chinese ROM). If I am using Whatsapp or Telegram, it works fine but once I lock the phone after a minute or so when the phone is in sleep mode I do not get messages or any whatsapp / telegram calls.
I have to unlock the phone before those messages are downloaded and come through to my phone - is this the case with the Chinese ROM on the GT Neo 2?
If so, will this be fixed by flashing the Global or Indian ROM? I know with Xiaomi, if you flash the Global ROM then this is no longer a problem. It seems that the Chinese ROM for Xiaomi is very aggressive with how it manages apps when the phone is sleepings or when the apps are running in the background.
This is my main concern and the only thing stopping me from buying this phone now.
@KD6-3.7 Maybe you can give me some advice, you seem to have a lot of knowledge with Realme and the GT Neo 2.
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I do not know about that kind of screen off issue. But my Indian Variant one has no issues whatsoever. [ edge lighting is also great! ]
TBH, the neo 2 with Chinese Rom is getting frequent updates + it has access to the RUI 3.0 Beta application.
Whereas the Indian market users of neo2 are stuck on an update which is 2 months+ old...
Also, with chinese rom, you can unlock the bootloader! No such thing as of now in global/Indian ones...
So it is on you entirely, if you want updates faster or not. Also, from what i have seen, MIUI CN usually is always better than the buggy global one. Not sure how realme works.
KD6-3.7 said:
I do not know about that kind of screen off issue. But my Indian Variant one has no issues whatsoever. [ edge lighting is also great! ]
TBH, the neo 2 with Chinese Rom is getting frequent updates + it has access to the RUI 3.0 Beta application.
Whereas the Indian market users of neo2 are stuck on an update which is 2 months+ old...
Also, with chinese rom, you can unlock the bootloader! No such thing as of now in global/Indian ones...
So it is on you entirely, if you want updates faster or not. Also, from what i have seen, MIUI CN usually is always better than the buggy global one. Not sure how realme works.
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Alright thanks.
MIUI CN is great, just the way it handles apps in the background / when phone is locked is a problem for me. No Global ROM for the Redmi Note 11 Pro, only expected sometime in Q1 so I had to sell mine unfortunately. My girlfriend has the Redmi Note 10 Pro, global ROM and works as expected.
Tempted to pull the trigger on this Realme, thinking I might ask the supplier to flash to Global ROM just incase. I imagine they'd need to unlock the bootloader and I could always flash back to the Chinese ROM to play around with if need be.
I just cannot afford to have a phone which does not allow for IM apps and their messages / calls to come through when the phone is locked.
This will be my first Realme device, so not familiar with how they work and do things.
If I am able to flash between the various ROMs, I might even flash to the Indian ROM if that has newer updates compared to the Global ROM.
I assume Indian ROM & Global ROM are quite similar and both have Google Apps and English as a language?
PsyCLown89 said:
Alright thanks.
MIUI CN is great, just the way it handles apps in the background / when phone is locked is a problem for me. No Global ROM for the Redmi Note 11 Pro, only expected sometime in Q1 so I had to sell mine unfortunately. My girlfriend has the Redmi Note 10 Pro, global ROM and works as expected.
Tempted to pull the trigger on this Realme, thinking I might ask the supplier to flash to Global ROM just incase. I imagine they'd need to unlock the bootloader and I could always flash back to the Chinese ROM to play around with if need be.
I just cannot afford to have a phone which does not allow for IM apps and their messages / calls to come through when the phone is locked.
This will be my first Realme device, so not familiar with how they work and do things.
If I am able to flash between the various ROMs, I might even flash to the Indian ROM if that has newer updates compared to the Global ROM.
I assume Indian ROM & Global ROM are quite similar and both have Google Apps and English as a language?
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Indian is, i think global only, heh.
Also, i dont think that you will be able to unlock the bl once global rom is flashed, although i can be wrong.
If you do use google applications, then yes, you indeed need the global rom.
KD6-3.7 said:
Indian is, i think global only, heh.
Also, i dont think that you will be able to unlock the bl once global rom is flashed, although i can be wrong.
If you do use google applications, then yes, you indeed need the global rom.
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Hmm, I was thinking and hoping that the supplier will unlock the bootloader, flash the Global ROM and then the bootloader will remain unlocked for me to flash the different ROMs as I wish?
It seems there is really not a lot of info available and most people who are on forums and using these phones seem to be using the Global or Indian version and not the Chinese version - which so far seems to be able to do more and has newer updates.
I can order the Chinese version and ask them to not update to the Global ROM, but then I run the risk of maybe still not being able to unlock the bootloader and having a phone I cannot use properly.
If I can get confirmation that Realme does not have the same issue as Xiaomi do on their Chinese ROMs then I am more than happy to stay on the Chinese ROM.
PsyCLown89 said:
Hmm, I was thinking and hoping that the supplier will unlock the bootloader, flash the Global ROM and then the bootloader will remain unlocked for me to flash the different ROMs as I wish?
It seems there is really not a lot of info available and most people who are on forums and using these phones seem to be using the Global or Indian version and not the Chinese version - which so far seems to be able to do more and has newer updates.
I can order the Chinese version and ask them to not update to the Global ROM, but then I run the risk of maybe still not being able to unlock the bootloader and having a phone I cannot use properly.
If I can get confirmation that Realme does not have the same issue as Xiaomi do on their Chinese ROMs then I am more than happy to stay on the Chinese ROM.
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CN variant will always be ahead in terms of updates.
As for your supplier, he will lock the bl. He has to, cuz if he doesnt, then your play store wont be certified. He will flash and lock most probably.
you can i think ask the seller himself about such stuff, he knows much more , heh.
Im currently using GT Neo 2 China varian rom.
Maybe this is my first time using Realme UI, so some of my problem may not really a problem
Here are some of my experiance for using China variant rom
1. A lot of China bloatware, most of it can be deleted
3. Unable to backup system setting, sms, call log at google account. It will showing error. You may need to backup your data to the realme chinese cloud. Contact and Calender are able to sync with google account.
4. Some of the banking apps are unable to set your device as digital otp token (maybe will fix later)
5. Cloned whatsapp have notification issue. It solve after reinstall.
6. Play Store will not automatically searching new updates and scan hamful apps. It require manual clicking.
7. Unable to use Google Location History function (it not affecting google map fuction)
8. Unable to trasfer my old phone data to new Realme phone using Phone clone app. (maybe have bug for phone clone app)
9. Great battery life. Apps are not allow to run in background by default. (i'm not sure is it Realme UI default setting)
10. High frequency system updates. You may check the latest updates news at Realme GT Neo 2 China Community.
Im using cn.
The only problem Im getting is the CN Apps but you can uninstall / remove then using ADB or manual uninstall only hehe
Thats why CN Version is the best of all version!
pjah23 said:
Im using cn.
The only problem Im getting is the CN Apps but you can uninstall / remove then using ADB or manual uninstall only hehe
Thats why CN Version is the best of all version!
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Actually is depend. If you very rely of Google ecosystem, the China variant rom might not your best choice.
So I have not pulled the trigger yet and was wondering what the latest software is on the Global ROM vs the Indian ROM?
I am wondering whether I should speak to the seller and see if they cannot put the Indian ROM on for me instead of the Global ROM as I may get updates sooner than on the Global ROM?
I assume the Indian ROM works fine with apps running in the background and when your phone is locked you can still get Whatsapp & Telegram messages and do not need to unlock your phone in order to receive those messages like with the Chinese ROM?
pjah23 said:
我用的是cn。
我得到的唯一问题是 CN 应用程序,但您可以卸载/删除然后使用 ADB 或手动卸载,呵呵
这就是为什么CN版本是所有版本中最好的!
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app storm can't be uninstall. we must root
PsyCLown89 said:
So I have not pulled the trigger yet and was wondering what the latest software is on the Global ROM vs the Indian ROM?
I am wondering whether I should speak to the seller and see if they cannot put the Indian ROM on for me instead of the Global ROM as I may get updates sooner than on the Global ROM?
I assume the Indian ROM works fine with apps running in the background and when your phone is locked you can still get Whatsapp & Telegram messages and do not need to unlock your phone in order to receive those messages like with the Chinese ROM?
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All rom versions work fine enough. It depends on your needs.
KD6-3.7 said:
All rom versions work fine enough. It depends on your needs.
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but i am using CN ROM. This rom doesn‘t worked.Because CN officially forces the app to run in the background.So, I hope that one day I can flash the Indian or global version of the firmware
arkgo said:
but i am using CN ROM. This rom doesn‘t worked.Because CN officially forces the app to run in the background.So, I hope that one day I can flash the Indian or global version of the firmware
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Oh is it? . Hope that u can flash global rom.
Hi guys.
Yesterday i bought gt neo 2. Om on
RMX3370_11_A.06 (global).​I saw india was the same time update but called
RMX3370_11_A.07...​
Btw this is not the problem..my problem is WHY india rom is 5.5Gb and global os 16Gb... Yes 16 gb!
Anybody can help plz.
Thank you.
PsyCLown89 said:
Hi all,
So I am interested in buying a Realme GT Neo 2, however I will likely buy the Chinese version as it is easier and chaeper for me to find and purchase (Aliexpress).
I see most stores say they will open the box and flash the Global ROM for you before shipping. Not sure how true this is, but anyways...
I wanted to find out if with the Chinese ROM, does it have the same issues as Xiaomi / Redmi with the Chinese ROM where when the device is locked you do not get messages.
For example, with the Redmi Note 11 Pro (Chinese ROM). If I am using Whatsapp or Telegram, it works fine but once I lock the phone after a minute or so when the phone is in sleep mode I do not get messages or any whatsapp / telegram calls.
I have to unlock the phone before those messages are downloaded and come through to my phone - is this the case with the Chinese ROM on the GT Neo 2?
If so, will this be fixed by flashing the Global or Indian ROM? I know with Xiaomi, if you flash the Global ROM then this is no longer a problem. It seems that the Chinese ROM for Xiaomi is very aggressive with how it manages apps when the phone is sleepings or when the apps are running in the background.
This is my main concern and the only thing stopping me from buying this phone now.
@KD6-3.7 Maybe you can give me some advice, you seem to have a lot of knowledge with Realme and the GT Neo 2.
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I am CN that this is not the case, there are several options in Settings-Notifications, one of which is to receive messages and reminders and display them on the lock screen, if not, then it is probably because the process of app has been forcibly stopped by the power protection system, to solve this problem, just select not to optimize in the battery optimization interface. The relevant solution may also be in the long press of the icon in question-Application Details-Power Consumption Management)
Mr.Vag said:
Hi guys.
Yesterday i bought gt neo 2. Om on
RMX3370_11_A.06 (global).​I saw india was the same time update but called
RMX3370_11_A.07...​
Btw this is not the problem..my problem is WHY india rom is 5.5Gb and global os 16Gb... Yes 16 gb!
Anybody can help plz.
Thank you.
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Well its the whole packed up rom. Depends on how it was compiled.
Interesting
I have Chinese version too.
I think the only deal breakers that i have with the Chinese version are missing notifications and bloatware. I am not sure how it works but it never delivers notifications on time, either they are delayed for 5-10 minutes or hours
I flash global version and really happy with it. Gpay doesn't work but my bank app does
JohnVo said:
I have Chinese version too.
I think the only deal breakers that i have with the Chinese version are missing notifications and bloatware. I am not sure how it works but it never delivers notifications on time, either they are delayed for 5-10 minutes or hours
I flash global version and really happy with it. Gpay doesn't work but my bank app does
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Does global version have realme dialer or google dialer? thank you.

Question Is ok google voice control working if I flash a euro rom on a Chinese device?

I want to buy a Chinese variant version because there's no global version selling here, but I want to use google services, so I want to flash a euro rom to access all the google services. Just wondering if anyone did this before. Thanks .
wynst said:
I want to buy a Chinese variant version because there's no global version selling here, but I want to use google services, so I want to flash a euro rom to access all the google services. Just wondering if anyone did this before. Thanks .
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Hi. Mine was originally chinese rom. I've changed it to indian rom with google services installed. Just make sure to unlock your bootloader and read the steps carefully before proceeding.

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