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Hi everyone I'm new to the forums and smartphones. But I got a razr hd from fido a few months ago. I've never compared the battery life and could get 3 hours of screen time on one charge. At first I thought it was great but then I used my friends razr (non maxx like mine). But I could watch 3 hours of YouTube videos with max sound and only used 50% of the battery. I got the warranty from future shop that will replace my battery, but since the battery isn't removable they will replace it with another phone of the same retail value. I turned off all apps, apex launcher, and avg, and used only what he had, JuiceDefender Ultimate and SwiftKey. My battery was about the same.
I don't get even get three hours of screen out of mine with brightness at around 40% and I have the maxx. I game a lot on mine though and talk a lot on the phone. I think the battery figures were obliviously under the ideal circumstances, so in the real world that's pretty good what your getting.
Do a side by side with both devices and see what the difference is.
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Mines just a normal RAZR HD. I'm not in an LTE area like you so I stay on 3G and throttle up to H+ when its transferring data.
I don't game much; my heaviest game is Angry Birds Star Wars which I don't use much so usualy its just Words With Friends.
I don't use it often for phone calls but I do use it. I'm a guy so I'm not talking for hours and hours.
I always get a full day out of it, and by full day I mean 16 hours or therabouts, until I put it to recharge while I sleep.
I'm not using anything to save battery.
I run Apex Launcher opposed to stock.
I run Tasker and have it looking for cable plugged in, orientation, change in wifi connection (nothing major, just gets the SSID and MAC and stores them as variables), and have it looking for screen unlocked and Display off (for ADB toggle).
In the background I'm running NG call recorder, LMT, WhatsApp, Lookout, LocateMyDroid, Words With Friends, TEAM battery bar Pro, Go SMS
Pro, Calengoo, BetterBatteryStats, ModemFastdormancyMonitor, SmartCardService, Google Services, Google Play, and Notification Toggle.
I sync Gmail and Contacts.
I have frozen Acoustic Warning, Audio Effects, Calendar, Calendar Storage, Email, Facebook stays frozen but unfreezes and runs with GPS off when I run a script but I don't use it much and the same for Maps but GPS on obviously (Maps made a differance for me and needed to be refrozen on every boot as well as the ROM seems to unfreeze it at boot time), Google Caledar Sync, Google Play Books/Movies/Music, Google+, Homescreen (default launcer), Moto Chinese Input, Moto English... infact almost everything starting with "moto or Moto is frozen", Quickview, All of Smart Actions, Swype, and Telstra One (specific to my ROM). Of everything frozen, the only things that I think make a significant impact are the way I have Maps and Facebook handled, that they stay frozen and then are called by a script that unfreezes and runs them and refreezes them on exit.
The Motocare may make a differance however I think its something that's needed to see when you have updates.
This list is very specific to my ROM as I'm on Telstra Austrlia which is (so I've gathered) one of the most bloat free ROMs, and freezing is always going to be carrier specific from what I've read about the phone from other people's carriers.
In adition to the freezing, I've stopped heaps of stuff in Autostarts. I don't reccomend messing with this as its easy to get lost and forget your settings. There is no undo or restore to default, so if you get lost then you're only sure fire way is a factory reset. If you feel safe using it though, then its worth having a look through what's starting up (start with just the stuff after boot) and disabling things that aren't needed. There's heaps of apps that run that really don't need to; non system apps I mean. If you get comfortable with it then the next greatest place they like to start up is when new apps are installed or old ones updated but there needs to be some care taken here as some apps do need to know this while others are just spying and wasting resources while doing so. If in doubt, just don't mess with it at all as there's no "set back to default" option.
I don't use Juice Defender, that's something that stuck out at me, is that I don't know how its being used in one of the posts stated above, but in the case of my ROM, the power management seems to be as good as I'm going to get it on its own. Toggling wifi in particular is something that I tried out with Tasker and it was better to leave it alone. I did try an app... I can't find it now but apparently I didn't back it up before uninstall. Its the beta app made by the chip manufacturer that runs in our phones (or so I read anyway) and it spent time in the background collecting data then tried to optimise power management. I think it was okay but I didn't see anything significant. I was hoping it would end the wakelocks that turn the wifi on but it ended up just leaving my wifi on most of the time and then turning it off when I actually was at home, and I couldn't manually turn it on and get a connection. It may be quite helpful for others though... Its the same thing for Juice Defender; I reckon that the way I would use it would be less helpful because of the wifi handling. I've gathered that wifi doesn't so much turn off but just goes into a power friendly state, and that a full toggle on and off takes more power so I ended up leaving that alone entirely. For people with other power issues, for example I stated that I don't use LTE or 4g in my area, then perhaps it could be useful... I can't give advice on that.
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...but to answer your question, that's how I use my phone and I get at least 6 hours screen time in a 16 hour day. In fact I always get that much (assuming its used that much) and usually more if I need it. I have battery left over but it does admitadly go down quickly after it reaches a point. I would be dissapointed if I got less. I came from the S2 with the Samsung extendable battery (just under %20 more juice than out of the box) and would get 4 or 5 hours on that before it was dead. I think that you have a genuine frustration on your hands, but that you should deal with it slowly and one step at a time, and that the first step is diagnosis and if it were me I would start by switching it to 3g/2g and seeing how that goes for a few days... let it settle in like that and see if it makes any differance after at least a few days later and a few charges of the battery.
By the way, Location services work fine with maps frozen. Another thing I neglected to mention is that I don't use Google Now. All of my apps that use fine or course location work fine (Google ones and third party) with Maps frozen.
Oh... One more edit; I also have DroidWall or some other equivalent firewall installed. I forget which one at the moment but if you use one, make sure it simply is a front end to iptables as there's almost zero resources used in this fashion. As I don't have 4G in my area, I don't know what is best suited for that. Mine is very simple and has a checkbox for wifi and for data, however it makes a lot of sense that a lot of these firewalls may not be updated to be detecting the interface that 4G is running on. This doesn't make a huge difference on my phone and I don't think I would notice any battery savings if I didn't have it but it may be of help if you were hell bent on using 4G, as its supposed to be power hungry, because you can prevent a lot of apps from making a connection to report the crap they discover (Contacts, numbers dialed, etc) and block ads in some games that don't otherwise need the internet to be played. At the same time, I'm honestly not sure if the results would be good or bad... for example if an app persistently tries to make a connection and isn't programmed to give up when the connection is timed out then that would be bad. I still thought I'd throw it in there. It would actually be one of the last additions I'd make to my phone after being finally satisfied with the power management. Its also something that you need to be aware of, for example if you can't play a game or use an app, it can cause you (me) to uninstall and reinstall only to find that I had firewalled it when it needed to have a connection. Some apps need to connect to check the validity of their licence as well and you just need to be aware and enable it when it shows up.
I have unlimited high speed data with T-Mobile but only 5GB mobile hotspot.
I want to use USB tether to my PC without the carrier knowing. I don't want carrier to know or else it will use up my 5GB hotspot. Is it possible to tether without the carrier knowing and using up my 5GB hotspot?
What is the difference between the built in tethering method of my BlissPop ROM vs. the ClockworkMod Tether app? Will the ClockworkMod Tether app prevent the carrier from knowing?
I use PdaNet+ with my phones and unlimited T-Mobile highspeed plan. I haven't tried ClockworkMod Tether, so I can't speak for it, but it sounds like it works the same way. Both use a companion program on the PC. With PdaNet there is an option in PC application to "hide tether usage", which creates a sort of VPN that blocks the carrier from knowing what your data is being used for. I don't know how this option is set up in CWM Tether, but by its description it has the same function. No obnoxious user agent masking plug-ins to mess with
Both have a trial version, so give them a try before deciding which one you prefer. PdaNet's trial works for ~10 minutes before turning off (you can turn it on again), CWM's works for 14 days before limiting you to 20MB/day. You might have only have one installed at any given time though, as having both might cause complications.
I use about 300GB/month with my T-Mobile high speed plan. Saves me hundreds of dollars a year not needing home internet (I live alone). I browse, stream Amazon Prime, view risque pictures of attractive females, download torrents, etc. Never been throttled, cut off, gotten angry emails, or anything.
Even more fun is that you can run WiFi Tether Router (by Fabio Grasso) at the same time and give your other devices (if you have any) at the same time. However, this is murder on your battery. Wifi tethering takes a ton of juice, so your devices is constantly charging while discharging (sometimes not fast enough, and it discharges faster than it charges). Because of this, I'd recommend using a cheap phone with a removable battery (I use a Galaxy Light). I've already blown up (not quite literally) 2 batteries on my Galaxy Light doing this, so I wouldn't recommend doing this with a phone like the OnePlus One where the battery isn't easily replaceable. Not for an extended period of time, anyway. You don't need to worry about this if you're only USB tethering. It takes extremely little juice and doesn't create any heat other than typical charger and data use.
The one caveat I've found with using PdaNet is that Netflix won't load while you're USB tethered. Whatever the PC program does to mask your data messes with Microsoft Silverlight, and you'll get taken to the page about minimum required specs and browser versions. The way around this is to disable the "hide tether usage" option, load the video, then once it starts loading (the red ring), hide the tether usage again. It's a PITA, and you have to remain vigilant about re-hiding the usage, or you'll obliviously and quickly use up your tethering allotment. Small price to pay though, right? I don't know if the ClockWorkMod Tether app has this problem. I don't have Netflix anymore, so I can't check. Amazon Prime doesn't have this issue.
I can't speak for the tethering method within BlissPop, or any other ROM. I know carriers often disable and/or hijack the tethering that is natively built into Android. But without a companion program PC side, like PdaNet and CWM Tether offer, I'd expect that it'd count against the tethering allotment.
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I use PdaNet+ with my phones and unlimited T-Mobile highspeed plan. I haven't tried ClockworkMod Tether, so I can't speak for it, but it sounds like it works the same way. Both use a companion program on the PC. With PdaNet there is an option in PC application to "hide tether usage", which creates a sort of VPN that blocks the carrier from knowing what your data is being used for. I don't know how this option is set up in CWM Tether, but by its description it has the same function. No obnoxious user agent masking plug-ins to mess with
Both have a trial version, so give them a try before deciding which one you prefer. PdaNet's trial works for ~10 minutes before turning off (you can turn it on again), CWM's works for 14 days before limiting you to 20MB/day. You might have only have one installed at any given time though, as having both might cause complications.
I use about 300GB/month with my T-Mobile high speed plan. Saves me hundreds of dollars a year not needing home internet (I live alone). I browse, stream Amazon Prime, view risque pictures of attractive females, download torrents, etc. Never been throttled, cut off, gotten angry emails, or anything.
Even more fun is that you can run WiFi Tether Router (by Fabio Grasso) at the same time and give your other devices (if you have any) at the same time. However, this is murder on your battery. Wifi tethering takes a ton of juice, so your devices is constantly charging while discharging (sometimes not fast enough, and it discharges faster than it charges). Because of this, I'd recommend using a cheap phone with a removable battery (I use a Galaxy Light). I've already blown up (not quite literally) 2 batteries on my Galaxy Light doing this, so I wouldn't recommend doing this with a phone like the OnePlus One where the battery isn't easily replaceable. Not for an extended period of time, anyway. You don't need to worry about this if you're only USB tethering. It takes extremely little juice and doesn't create any heat other than typical charger and data use.
The one caveat I've found with using PdaNet is that Netflix won't load while you're USB tethered. Whatever the PC program does to mask your data messes with Microsoft Silverlight, and you'll get taken to the page about minimum required specs and browser versions. The way around this is to disable the "hide tether usage" option, load the video, then once it starts loading (the red ring), hide the tether usage again. It's a PITA, and you have to remain vigilant about re-hiding the usage, or you'll obliviously and quickly use up your tethering allotment. Small price to pay though, right? I don't know if the ClockWorkMod Tether app has this problem. I don't have Netflix anymore, so I can't check. Amazon Prime doesn't have this issue.
I can't speak for the tethering method within BlissPop, or any other ROM. I know carriers often disable and/or hijack the tethering that is natively built into Android. But without a companion program PC side, like PdaNet and CWM Tether offer, I'd expect that it'd count against the tethering allotment.
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Thanks for the great detailed insight! I'll give pdanet+ a try. Btw, do you know if T-mobile allows you to track how much of the mobile hotspot data you have used?
I am curious to know if custom ROMS such as BlissPop prevent the carrier from knowing when using the native Android tethering. What if I use a VPN on my phone or on my PC along with the native Android tethering. Will the carrier find out?
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Thanks for the great detailed insight! I'll give pdanet+ a try. Btw, do you know if T-mobile allows you to track how much of the mobile hotspot data you have used?
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As long as there's a T-Mobile SIM card in the phone, you can download their account app. It tells you your minutes, messages, data usage (including tethering), when your bill is due, etc. You can pay your bill through it too. I find it to be very useful. Just make sure you turn off all the diagnostics and notifications. Not because they'll learn anything you don't want them to know, but because they're obnoxious and useless.
I know it's an old question but I'll post a response for those who arrive here via a Google search. It's incredibly simply to get around the carrier limitation. Follow the instructions in this link below which, while very detailed because they want to reach a wide audience, explains how to solve the problem. You just need to add a record to a database file. It's that simple. If you're an expert then just skip to the end of the tutorial for the database that needs to be edited and for the record that needs to be added. I tried this on my Note 4 on T-Mobile. I was throttled and after making this edit I'm back to full speed.
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/tether-your-nexus-5-without-your-carrier-knowing-0155546/
Quick edit: the battery drain is an issue but is easily solved with either additional batteries or with a phone/charger combo that allows for fast charging. With a fast charger on my Note 4 I easily stay ahead of the battery drain.
I use and am currently using clockwork tether in conjunction with nord vpn Most of the vpn servers are very stable I always link up with them for several days to make sure it is not killing the connection before I link it on my phone but it works great. All the traffic going through the isp is encrypted so they cant tell that I am hooked up to the xbox servers on my phone there is no way to tell that it is not regular phone traffic. If you are going to do this I would deffinitely reccomend spending the money fo a good vpn service. You will not be able to game over this connection but download speeds are good. I get nord vpn servvice for less than 3 dollars a month when I buy their 2 year plan for like 71 bucks. They havve servers all over the world and it also protects me from any backlash I might see due to my heavy p2p dowloading. Clockwork tether is great because it will utilize lte networks not just the 3g networks and it does not require any root access. I am currently on lg g6 through sprint so root will be a while out if ever (encrypted bootloader) but I can still utilize my unlimited lte data. I also have a grandfathered data line with them that is unlimited but they will not let me upgrade to lte. When they let 4g wimax die i was downgraded to nothing but 3g on that line but I cant give it up because I use 250 to 300 gigs a month on just it. I had a lot of problems with the wifi air cards because of the high discharge rates and heat problems but have solved that by going to the old 3g computer dongles now and running them directly into openwrt router. Good enough to play call of duty on but not good for download speeds and if my wife is looking up a recipe for dinner it lags out. Thus I use the tethering for all downloads and the data only line for regular traffic that is permitted. (Not pirating vvideos because i dont want to give them a reason to kick me off my unlimited plan) n0sec
Is anyone else having trouble with getting this feature to work? I have my android watch paired, and my home set as a trusted zone, but still have to enter my pin every time.
Works fine with my watch and car. I don't use location based, so I can't comment there.
This is an android feature I beleive. The "home" location address never worked on my s5. So I never bothered with it on this note5. So I just used the other options.
On another note (pun) samsung has a widget that will display apps based on where you are, and you can set that up with wifi networks! Which is so much better. Hopefully either they, or google, move in this direction.
On another note (pun#2) there's always tasker.
I have the watch and home location function working on Note 4
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I am pretty sure that every Note 12.2 Pro Verizon Wireless version will crash every 5 to 10 minutes if you have most apps open.
To fix this, you need to remove the SIM card from the tray.
Prerequisites
Must be a Verizon Wireless model
Other proposed solutions that didn't work:
Resetting the device.
Removing MicroSD.
Switching from Samsung Keyboard to Google Keyboard
Replacing/repairing the tablet (probably not a hardware issue)
Charge the battery (flickering screen fix)
References:
The SIM card fix here did work --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...absolutely-perplexing-problems-5-1-1-t3262803
These solutions did NOT work --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/help/crashing-minutes-t2840972
This is verified to work on the Verizon Wireless Note Pro 12.2! It seems that if your SIM card has no active data plan, then this will cause their device to cause apps to crash to the home screen. Just remove the SIM card since you aren't using cellular data anyway. I don't think it is a hardware issue, but rather a firmware issue that has not been addressed and will never be for a device this old. This fix not only removed crashes that happened constantly, but it also improved app performance. Before this fix, drawing in Autodesk's Sketchbook app was a pain. Sometimes a pen/brush stroke would not appear or would delay. Similar things happened with my Lecture Notes app, causing me to believe that I may have had defective RAM (which was absolutely untrue). So please do yourself a favor and remove your inactive SIM card.
However, I don't know if a SIM card with an active Verizon Wireless data plan will also cause the Note Pro to crash. I bought it for WiFi use but it was on sale brand new for the same price as the WiFi only version. If anyone can check if the bug persists with an active SIM card with a data plan, I would appreciate that very much.
poetryrocksalot said:
I am pretty sure that every Note 12.2 Pro Verizon Wireless version will crash every 5 to 10 minutes if you have most apps open.
To fix this, you need to remove the SIM card from the tray.
Prerequisites
Must be a Verizon Wireless model
Other proposed solutions that didn't work:
Resetting the device.
Removing MicroSD.
Switching from Samsung Keyboard to Google Keyboard
Replacing/repairing the tablet (probably not a hardware issue)
Charge the battery (flickering screen fix)
References:
The SIM card fix here did work --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...absolutely-perplexing-problems-5-1-1-t3262803
These solutions did NOT work --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/help/crashing-minutes-t2840972
This is verified to work on the Verizon Wireless Note Pro 12.2! It seems that if your SIM card has no active data plan, then this will cause their device to cause apps to crash to the home screen. Just remove the SIM card since you aren't using cellular data anyway. I don't think it is a hardware issue, but rather a firmware issue that has not been addressed and will never be for a device this old. This fix not only removed crashes that happened constantly, but it also improved app performance. Before this fix, drawing in Autodesk's Sketchbook app was a pain. Sometimes a pen/brush stroke would not appear or would delay. Similar things happened with my Lecture Notes app, causing me to believe that I may have had defective RAM (which was absolutely untrue). So please do yourself a favor and remove your inactive SIM card.
However, I don't know if a SIM card with an active Verizon Wireless data plan will also cause the Note Pro to crash. I bought it for WiFi use but it was on sale brand new for the same price as the WiFi only version. If anyone can check if the bug persists with an active SIM card with a data plan, I would appreciate that very much.
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I have an active T-mobile SIM in mine and no issues so far with an active data plan.
You are right though, it did have some odd issues when I had the sim in without an active data plan.
I diddnt have any app crashes but for some reason google play would not update apps even when I was on wifi, they would just stick in downloading status.
as soon as the sim card was activated or removed they downloaded fine.
There were a few other odd blips here and there when using something with network connectivity (Browser, facebook etc.)
The only reason I could see was that if you have an inactive sim card and then go to settings > about device > status the mobile network is constantly connecting and disconnecting and switching between unknown and LTE every second or two.
I suspect this may use extra processor resources and would likely impact battery life a bit as well.
I have an inactive sim at home, I may run some tests to verify it uses extra resources.
thanks for posting this, I noticed the issues and what resolved it but did not put two and two together until reading this post.
My SIM card was an inactive verizon wireless if that helps. I've only had crashing and memory issues. It's been several months now and not a single crash, and I always use my tablet.
If you want to test on your verizon sim, you should try sketchbook, videos, and any game such as clash of clans or boom beach. You need a memory or graphic intensive app to trigger these crashes.
Any small apps like Gmail will not crash. Although I had crashes in Adobe Reader if the PDF was large or the pages had a lot of visual content.
Note that I said you will crash with most apps open, I retract that statement. It is actually more likely to crash with anything that uses a lot of memory, caches alot, or is CPU or graphics intensive
Also, I think this bug only occurs on Android version 5.1.1
No problems here
Just wanted to let you know that I am still using my Note Pro with an active Sim card and I'm not running into any reboot issues. (I still haven't found anything even comparable to it to upgrade to without crossing over so i'll just keep using it! )
I was looking to get an S3. What I wanted to know is can the watch be connected to the app store and download faces/apps without a phone either over wifi or if an LTE version over the network? Such as if you get a tablet, you can use it fine with just a wifi connection, you don't need to pair those to a phone. I ask because for one I don't have the latest phone of the month (Sammy seems to snub those with phone models older than a year - slight exaggeration but not much). The other thing is that I want to be able to leave the phone home at times and still be able to browse for watch faces etc over wifi.
I really don't care about notifications or email (I don't get that many) nor to I want to pay for things with the watch. When I really need to do those things I don't find using the phone that much work. I just want the watch to use as a watch, and have some helpful apps to use when not carrying my phone, is it possible?
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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So unlike a tablet Samsung locks you out of the app store on the actual watch even if LTE if you don't have a phone connected? That seems kind of dumb and limiting especially since the supported phone list is so small. Is it just because browsing apps on the watch is too difficult maybe?
I wonder if this will change, I can get apps on a tablet through wifi I don't see why not with the watch. This watch seems like a mini tablet that tells time.
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Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Are you sure my friend that it can make and receive calls and send messages without it being connected to the phone via bluetooth??i got mine s3 a week ago...i love it really, but it doesn't do these things when not connected ro the phone (s6 edge plus)...
Just saw, i have the bluetooth s3 frontier version and not the LTE version...so i guess that's why it has to be connected to the phone via bluetooth...
My only problem is that i can not connect to my phone via wi-fi...whenever i activate this option on my phone, it crashes with the message gear S pluggin has stopped working...any clues ?
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afblangley said:
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Are these stand alone functions also available if you have the wifi version and no LTE?
I don't have any experience with the S3 BT model. I can only speak to the capability of the Frontier LTE. This watch is a phone. It has functionality that's probably comparable to a basic flip phone. It comes preloaded with apps for phone, messaging, contacts, S Health, weather, reminders, and a few others. When the eSIM is activated, it can perform tasks associated with these apps immediately upon startup. No phone is required.
When the watch is setup via Gear Manager, it installs software that enables additional apps to be installed and gains greater functionality. Most of which remains even when the watch is disconnected from the phone.
Gear Manger compatibility isn't limited to Samsung phones, it can be installed many Android phones, but not tablets. Not even Samsung tablets.
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I don't have any experience with the S3 BT model. I can only speak to the capability of the Frontier LTE. This watch is a phone. It has functionality that's probably comparable to a basic flip phone. It comes preloaded with apps for phone, messaging, contacts, S Health, weather, reminders, and a few others. When the eSIM is activated, it can perform tasks associated with these apps immediately upon startup. No phone is required.
When the watch is setup via Gear Manager, it installs software that enables additional apps to be installed and gains greater functionality. Most of which remains even when the watch is disconnected from the phone.
Gear Manger compatibility isn't limited to Samsung phones, it can be installed many Android phones, but not tablets. Not even Samsung tablets.
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If the watch is basically a phone then why couldn't I directly install apps/faces etc from the watch? It doesn't make much sense to me. If I install apps on a phone I do't need another phone to install things on the first one. It seems like Samsung is just too lazy to make an app on the watch to do it, or they want everyone to have to buy a new phone to use the watch (and hopefully a big percentage will buy a Samsung phone wink wink).
I wonder what the free space on the watch memory/storage is between the BT and LTE versons? If the LTE has more stuff installed I wonder if user memory is less?
I'm one of the few who use an S3 as my primary phone. I too wish that the S3 was a more independent device. But as it stands right now, it's the most capable smartwatch available (excluding watches running full Android made by a few small manufacturers). I hope that it paves the way for more standalone offerings by Apple and Android Wear watch makers.
I have a gear s3 lte Att e-sim unlocked. How can I activated with ATT GO PHONE or any other carrier Cricket,Tmobile? I am not an att customer. Thank you!
handrade773 said:
I have a gear s3 lte Att e-sim unlocked. How can I activated with ATT GO PHONE or any other carrier Cricket,Tmobile? I am not an att customer. Thank you!
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Since the eSIM is provisioned via programming, Cricket and MVNOs don't have the system to do it. So that's a no go.
Theoretically, T-Mobile should be able to do it because they also sell the watch. The difficulty is finding an employee who knows how to do it, since the IMEI won't be in their database. Getting it on a wearable line instead of a smartphone (more expensive) or tablet (no talk) plan will be an additional obstacle.
Putting the watch on GoPhone is also technically doable, someone on this forum or Android Central said they did it. I think they called CS with the IMEI and ICCID. Perhaps they will chime in on exactly how they were able to get it done.
I called ATT CS and I was able to activated on $30 plan ($25 Auto).
AFBLANGLEY, does the phone that you use to set up and manage the watch with, does that phone need to have a service plan?
Thanks, Dan
Dudical said:
AFBLANGLEY, does the phone that you use to set up and manage the watch with, does that phone need to have a service plan?
Thanks, Dan
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No, it doesn't need a SIM. As long as the phone is connected to a WiFi network, the watch can remotely connect to it. My phone sits docked permanently, right next to the router.
afblangley said:
No, it doesn't need a SIM. As long as the phone is connected to a WiFi network, the watch can remotely connect to it. My phone sits docked permanently, right next to the router.
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Are you able to utilize apps like spotify and audible from the phone that is connected back home? I am going to attempt to use the same set up as you and keep my Iphone as primary phone. I just would like to get all notifications and be able to respond with the GS3 as well.
jmr5x said:
Are you able to utilize apps like spotify and audible from the phone that is connected back home? I am going to attempt to use the same set up as you and keep my Iphone as primary phone. I just would like to get all notifications and be able to respond with the GS3 as well.
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It's my understanding that if you have a Spotify premium account, you can stream directly to the watch, but I'm not a Spotify user. I don't believe that there is an Audible app for Tizen.
In terms of messages, email and notifications, yes they will be passed through as long as the watch is remotely connected to the "host" phone.
What you're wanting to do will work fine. The reason I have the setup is because I use a tablet and it is incompatible with the S3.
afblangley said:
It's my understanding that if you have a Spotify premium account, you can stream directly to the watch, but I'm not a Spotify user. I don't believe that there is an Audible app for Tizen.
In terms of messages, email and notifications, yes they will be passed through as long as the watch is remotely connected to the "host" phone.
What you're wanting to do will work fine. The reason I have the setup is because I use a tablet and it is incompatible with the S3.
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This is exciting news. Do you happen to have a link that describers your experience using the setup with additional phone? I would be interested to know some details but hate to pick your brain if its already out on the interwebs.
Im guessing that the tablet has no connection and never has to the GS3?
Are you using the tablet with google voice number for calls and messaging? I was contemplating on how I could link my Verizon number on the iPhone to the android at home near the router.
Does your gear s3 still count the steps without connection with the phone? Mine stops with bt and wifi turned off.