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What tablet do I get?
I was wondering if anyone had any good suggestions for a tablet to install into my dash. The Archos 5 IMT looks like it has almost everything I want, but I would really like a 7".
It needs:
Built-in GPS (or enough ports for a dongle, and support for a dongle. I don't want bluetooth, because I don't want to have to worry about it losing power)
FM receiver (I know there are internet radio apps, but I want to be able to use this offline.. if it's possible)
Capacitive screen (Cause I want it) with a wide viewing angle.
I don't care much about which version of Android it has, it will pretty much just be used for GPS and Music/video.
As a side note, I'm still doing research, but if anyone knows how to, or knows where there's a tutorial, I need to figure out how to hook the tablet to the speakers. I don't really want to have to use a head unit, though that would be the easy way. There must be some kind of small device I can use that has a volume knob and maybe fade/balance controls that I can install anywhere in the truck.
Thanks for reading!
I have installed the archos 5IT in my dash and love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kUsui3-5Y0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nN-8Hrf0sM
Its not capacitive but it does not suffer from the glare that the glass screens have. As far as touch sensitivity its pretty acurate for a resistive device.
I dont have the gps signal issues most have as i have the flash version and not the hard drive based ones as most say the hdd must be blocking the gps. I paid for the one time map fee from Ndrive but also tether to my phone and use google maps as well.
I have over 100 youtube music video's in mp4 format ripped to the device and use those as my music and have it set to random play and it goes from one file to the next without having to select a new video once one is over.
Thanks!
Some good input there. I'll have to keep that in mind. I just really think a 7" would look a lot better. Especially in my F150 XLT. Seems like the 5" would look dinky, and I have room for a 7".
If archos put the 5's guts into the 7 form factor, I'd buy 2 right now. Rly.
Also, for anyone who stumbled on this, I think it won't be too hard to set this up without using a head unit. (I could be wrong on some of the technical info, but I think I have the right idea here.) Your amplifier has a 'plug' with like 20 wires attached coming out. Normally, your radio has a plug that fits this plug. You plug it in, and now the radio's attached to the amp, which is attached to the speakers. Good to go. So you buy a new plug (called a wire harness), one that fits your amplifier (assuming stock amplifier, I will just look up 2000 F150 wire harness on amazon, and that's it), and wire up your tablet to it instead of your radio.
The wire harness puts out a 12v (ignition on) wire. You can adapt this to a USB and use that to charge the device. Set it to display/wifi/gps/all other battery draining crap off while not charging. When you turn the car on, it's now "Charging" and everything will turn off. I think it should be able to 'sleep' for a few days, so it should be 'always on' as far as you can tell.
The harness also has a wire for each of the 4 speakers, maybe subwoofers too, I forget now. I'm sure someone makes a product that controls these easily, I'm going to have to go to a local car audio shop, and ask some questions. Hopefully I can put the audio out from the tablet into the audio in of this unknown device. Then I should be able to wire the unknown device to the wiring harness. If I can't find something, I think I'll just make my own circuit, 3 Pots for volume, fade and balance, some resistors or something.. we'll see if I can't just buy something. The rest of the EQ can be done on the tablet.
(If I do make my own, I want to use a slide-style pot for volume instead of a rotating one. I think that'd be the nuts.)
Wiring harness: Ignition on wire adapted to USB. Speaker wires wired to volume/fade/bal device.
Tablet: plug in USB, and connect audio out to volume/fade/bal device.
Easy cheesy.
I'll be updating.
This thing is starting to look like it'll be really easy to do.
I can't get started 'til I find my tablet though. I would love to hear some more ideas! THANKS!
they updated the 7" home with newer hardware but it does not have gps. I would look into the upcoming wifi only samsung galaxy tab and see if it will have gps.
your on the right track with the audio wiring however you would better off getting a cheap 4ch amp to do it as you need power to pump the speakers the way you are talking about wiring it up would basically have the android device trying to power door speakers from the headphone output amp. If you got a cheap 4 ch amp and wired it through the stock vehicle harness you would have all the hookups u need just get the headphone to rca cable and a set of splitters to power all 4 channels of the amp volume could be controlled from the android device. If the amp had external volume remote or if you wired one inline with the headphone output you could have better volume control however the turning on and off of the amp might send a pop to the speakers as the amp would always be turned up.
Hmm
I was under the impression that my vehicle came with a stock amp. Everything's stock (as far as I know, got it used and haven't tinkered with it yet.)
Just trying to understand better, as I have never dealt with car stereos before.
So my stereo was supplying power to the speakers before? There's not an amp in my truck right now between the stereo and the speakers?
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I'm almost thinking of getting something really cheap, as I plan on permanently mounting it in the dash. Something Chinese maybe?
I'm sure the Galaxy Tab would work really well, but it's a bit expensive for a GPS/radio/computer.. now that I'm typing this out, that's a ****ing deal! Maybe I will get something nice to pop in there.
I found a tutorial online for making the 12v ignition into 2 USBs, so I am now considering a usb-powered bluetooth gps. Too bad it adds $50 to the cost.
Alright
Nope, no amp in the F-150 standard. It's in the head unit. So I will need to get an amp.
I figure I can move this whole system to my next car (Plan on getting a new truck in 3-4 years.. or sooner if this one decides to go on me), so the amp is an investment.
Truck has 4 speakers stock (no subwoofers)
I will hook those 4 speakers to the amp I buy. (I'll have to look up how to install an amp now.. geesh.)
I will put the audio out from my tablet into the amp.
Now I have to figure out how the 12v ignition on is gonna work, since I'm now going through a new amp. I found a tutorial on instructables titled "12v to USB adapter \ 12v to 5v transformer (great for cars)" I'm not allowed to post links yet, but I'm sure you can find it if you want it.
Yeah the amp any small 4ch or 2ch if you dont care about front rear fade will work..
As far as hooking up an amp they are pretty easy just need to run your own main power wire for the 12v constant for the amp. 8-10 gage should be fine for 400-600w 2 or 4 ch amp to power door speakers....
then use your red ignition wire from the harness u get to power the remote to the amp so its only on with the ignition. Extent the speaker wires to reach your amp you can mount under the passenger side dash or behind the center consol as trucks have plenty of room under there.
the wires from the harness you get to plug into your factory radio harness are easy to figure out as the colors have been standard for a while. Black is ground but you will need your own closest to the amp as possible any bare metal spot you can find that has a bolt to the frame or under dash should suffice. The black from the harness will power the usb fine. Yellow is constant + (always on) if you want the usb to always have power if not use the red as its only on with the ignition it will have enogh amps to power the remote for the amp and charge/power the tablet. green and purple are rear speakers, white/gray are front speakers. the remaining wire colors depend on the vehicle if they have them like blue is for power antenna or factory amp turn on. orange is to dim an after market head unit display when the head lights are on.
I was in best buy a few weeks ago and saw the archos 7 home tablet for $129 almost got one just because of the deal but dont need it as the 5it i have is fine and has the built in gps. but if using an external bluetooth gps is the route you go the 7 should be great. You will just need to find your own gps app or use google maps and have to terher to something like a smart phone for data.
http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_7/specs.html?country=us&lang=en
they show the gps icon on the home screen however it does not have built in gps. there are a ton of gps solutions you can side load or get from android market.
Damn...
Was just about to order the 7 home. Such a good deal.
No bluetooth...
The search continues.
i was searching ebay for something 7" that had gps or bluetooth and nothing cheap cought my eye so i took the 7" tag out and added 2.2 for froyo and gps...
I came up with this. http://goo.gl/hyNtC
All you would need to look like the soundman from youtube with his f150 ipad 2 install.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jr3_zLHTbY
May have found a contender.
a 10 inch would be nice, but I don't know how to do fiberglass, and for my first car mod, I'd prefer to keep it simple. a 7-inch should just fit in my double din.
Found this little gem.
http://www.dinodirect.com/tablet-pc...camera-android.html?ddse= gps&utm_source= gps
Gonna look at it more when I get home, will probably buy it. Only thing that's funky about it is that it charges with AC. We'll see...
A software to be written to tell it to go to sleep immediately when "ac" power is removed would be nice, also, that app to tell music/radio to resume on "wake" would be nice.
That way it plays the true car infotainment roll.
A device with USB host would almost be required before I dig into android platform for my infotainment system.
I have a custom built net-top based system built in my truck using a 7" touch screen, automatic power supply from mini-box.com, and a USB controller connected to my steering wheel control buttons. USB host is a must for me!
Sounds like a good setup. Honestly i'm fine with the stock radio in my truck, but I like to tinker.
Still haven't found the right device. I'm buying an Arnova 8 when they switch to the new model, and I'll give that a test fit.. see how it goes.
My plan is to set the device to have the display always on when plugged in. It's in settings or something. If it's wired to the ignition, should work right? We'll see.
I think if I get juice defender and set it to aggressive (no gps, no wifi, no bluetooth, no anything), it should stay on for a while in standby.
Well...
Seems like Android Tablets haven't matured enough for my project. I don't see a cheap 7" capacitive tablet with GPS coming out anytime soon. I'm going to go ahead and get a stereo with rear usb and aux ports, and make a mount for my phone. Should be fun. I'll make a new post with pictures and instructions, and link it here.
Oh well...
My 2 cents...
I've been looking to do the same thing. I've been digging around for a good table and this is the best I've got. Specs wise, it fits the bill. But I can't find any good reviews.
http://hotmid.com/wits-a81h-tablet-cortex-a8-7-capacitive-touchscreen-android-2-3-gps-wifi.html
Just in case that link doesn't work...
http://mp4nation.net/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=483
The big thing I'm looking for is a parts list. Amp, harnesses, etc. And a how-to would be the coolest as far as basic wiring for power and sound.
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concept after-market product
What appears to be lacking in the market currently is a ready-to-use 2DIN or double-din head unit that is basically a permanent in-dash universal docking system such that you can simply pop in a 5 or 7 inch tablet (or adaptable for say a minimum 4 inch or greater smartphone?) with the head unit's rear interface designed for plugging into the car's power, sound system, and steering wheel controls just like an aftermarket care stereo. Sorta like the currently available units that utilize removable electronic faceplates-- except here the tablet or smartphone itself is the "removable faceplate".
Spepper, I have seen one on Ebay. Looks a bit dodgy but might be good:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ES666MO-...153004?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item336b841f6c
ES666MO Car DVD/GPS/ANDROIT TABLET
http://ca-fi.com/en/ it's not a removable tablet, but it's an all-in-one Android-powered double-din radio, looks awesome, but it comes at a price because it has all the hardware built-in
stevey500 said:
A software to be written to tell it to go to sleep immediately when "ac" power is removed would be nice, also, that app to tell music/radio to resume on "wake" would be nice.
That way it plays the true car infotainment roll.
A device with USB host would almost be required before I dig into android platform for my infotainment system.
I have a custom built net-top based system built in my truck using a 7" touch screen, automatic power supply from mini-box.com, and a USB controller connected to my steering wheel control buttons. USB host is a must for me!
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The wake-up is covered using plug in launcher from the market.
I am checking if it can be used for the sleep portion.
So I wanted an inline audio option for my 2004 Isuzu Axiom. I hate FM modulators, especially due to how I love road trips, always running into some nosey radio station trying to annex my music. I don't have a tape player, so those nifty contraptions are out. And if you saw how Isuzu decided to combine a radio, a/c and onboard computer (of sorts) then you would understand how complicated it would be to simply replace the radio (hell, I would lose the ability to change through different suspension presets among other things). Yeah, it is possible, but is it worth it, meh.
Well, w/me joining Google music beta, I have finally decided to do something about it w/this purchase.
For those that don't know, the TranzIt offers a direct, inline connection to your stereo by hooking it up inline through the antenna in. It also adds a 5volt charging station via USB, which, if I understand correctly, is the correct voltage for charging mobile phones and such as opposed to the voltage used by car chargers.
I also got a 1 meter long micro USB cable at no charge due to some special.
Obviously, it's not connected just yet, but I should be able to install it this weekend. After which, I'll update this post w/install pics, a review of both installation and actual usage. Once I get home, I'll edit a link into this post, but again, I can't verify whether it's worth it yet.
So, here are some pics still in the box...
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ok thats a inline fm modulator with a usb charging port the modulator will cut off the antennas connection to the radio while on and you will still have to tune it to a certain frequency to use it. but that is deffinatly a better option then using the regular fm modulators.
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ok thats a inline fm modulator with a usb charging port the modulator will cut off the antennas connection to the radio while on and you will still have to tune it to a certain frequency to use it. but that is deffinatly a better option then using the regular fm modulators.
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Yeah, but the operative statement "will cut off the connection to the" antenna feed, is what makes me so happy. My options are limited, and if I want to keep the installation at least fairly simple, than that drops my options even more.
I plan on placing the USB and audio in ports in an unused and available spot on the radio itself (basically next to my sport suspension preset and winter TOD preset) they have a couple of other areas that look like they were meant for other options and could look stock. Then I want to mount the power switch to on the dash or maybe in the center console next to the CD changer. The cord is more than long enough and it would be less conspicuous. I want it to look as OEM as possible. And looking over the contents of the box, it shouldn't be difficult to make it look like it belongs. I've done much more complicated NOS switches.
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How much does this options run???
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I use the car charger to charge my G2x and I use the old tape player adapter for CD players and plug it in to the headphone port on the phone. Works awesome!
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I use the car charger to charge my G2x and I use the old tape player adapter for CD players and plug it in to the headphone port on the phone. Works awesome!
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Yeah, I LOVE those tape player adapters! The sound was great, but my stock radio doesn't have a cassette player. But you're right, that is an awesome combo.
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tidewaterns said:
I use the car charger to charge my G2x and I use the old tape player adapter for CD players and plug it in to the headphone port on the phone. Works awesome!
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That's my hook-up also. With PowerAmp, those Bose speakers in my Maxima are getting a work-out.
Well, it only took me almost 20 days, but today I decided to brave the 100+ degree heat and connect it up in my Axiom.
It turned out to be an easy set up, well, as far as connecting it up. I connected the power to the leads connecting to my cigarette lighter, although, when I go back in to place the connections in my console [or maybe in my ashtray, just some cuts to allow the wires] I think I'll directly connect it to the ignition.
Now for the review. F'N AWESOME! I'm running CM that comes preinstalled w/DSPManager, so I'm given a full gambit of audio options. Even w/o that, it still comes out crisp and works well w/my oem stereo and the options available through it.
It gives a 5 volt charge, which is the correct voltage as opposed to most car chargers that don't have the ability to drop down the voltage.
My only real issue is the fact the USB connection is for pwr only and I have to use a 3.5 audio connector to play the music. So I have 2 lines running from my phone to 2 separate jacks... I won't say it's a small issue either. I'm big on as few cables and as neat as possible, so this is a thorn in my side. I also understand though, that it's not as simple as just changing the wire or the USB port, so the possibility I'll ever find an aftermarket connector that offeres all in one isn't going to happen.
Overall, considering how much simpler this is than getting a new stereo, then customizing my console [the Axiom combines the A/C controls, GPS, damn near everything into the head unit] this was a much better option for me and I'm glad I got it.
best bet would be to hook into the accessory wire on your ignition. that way it only runs when your car is on.
is the cig lighter powered all the time? if it is you can hook a relay in between the cig lighter and car kit and use the accessory wire as a signal wire to tell the relay to turn on the power.
Xargon321 said:
best bet would be to hook into the accessory wire on your ignition. that way it only runs when your car is on.
is the cig lighter powered all the time? if it is you can hook a relay in between the cig lighter and car kit and use the accessory wire as a signal wire to tell the relay to turn on the power.
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Yeah, that's the plan, the ignition at least. The only reason I connected it through my cig lighter was to get it done fast. I don't have the USB or audio port set where I want it either. I wanted an idea on how I liked it prior to putting any real time into it, especially cutting for the ports.
Several days into it now and I love it more than before. Decided I'm going to modify my ashtray to house the ports and the power switch. That way it'll stay incognito for the most part [since the available pop out tabs on the head unit aren't large enough to house the USB port for a more OEM look] and the light that activates at night, when opened, will be great as far as not fumbling around for the connections. Won't be this weekend, but once I get some time, I'm finishing this project up, my interior looks GHE-TTO and I don't like it.
Got it and very happy. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-AS111-Fidelio-Docking-Smartphone/dp/B005LB9GQM
Wow! What's it like?
Please post a mini review! And some pics!
Cool! Got it online? Amazon? How much?
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The Dock connector works with Desire S? And its possible to charge battery connecting there?
I'll take some pics and post, but a quick review
£69 from Amazon.
The doc works and it does charge the phone. The Fidelio app connects bluetooth without a problem. Docking doesn't trigger Dock Mode, but I can do that with AutomateIt and the same would be true with Tasker, etc. I have set it so that when it is on the dock and bluetooth starts, it starts an app called Desk Clock Plus which I have put a button for Tune In Radio on. AutomateIt or Tasker could start anything of course. TuneIn has a sleep timer and an alarm, so I use that.
Sound quality is fine for me. It isn't Hi Fi, but it isn't cheapo either.
There is one problem - one of the two adjustable supports that props the phone either side of the USB connector does touch the volume control, so I had to shave the edge off it slightly. Works fine now. I think the placing isn't as secure as an iPhone, but it is solid enough. Because of the placement of the USB socket on the DS, the connector it has to be over to one side, but that means the phone is centralised on the dock.
Overall, I am happy with it. AMA else you want.
The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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Nice find!
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This is the setup using the HDMI to VGA converter:
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wow, i like this setup
Great. Where did you find this in the PHilippines?
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The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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Great, I've been looking for an HDMI to VGA converter that works and is also small. Most of the one's I found are huge and kinda defets the purpose of a portable device. Please tell what store or where you found this converter. Thanks a lot!
UPDATE: SORRY JUST LOOKED at the PICS! thanks....which mall outlet exactly? the outlets I visited only have the really huge "box type" version. Thanks.
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Great, I've been looking for an HDMI to VGA converter that works and is also small. Most of the one's I found are huge and kinda defets the purpose of a portable device. Please tell what store or where you found this converter. Thanks a lot!
UPDATE: SORRY JUST LOOKED at the PICS! thanks....which mall outlet exactly? the outlets I visited only have the really huge "box type" version. Thanks.
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I got this at the CDR King SM Dasmarinas. It's a new product at P1500+, and then I saw one with another make without the need of a power supply at the Acer store at SM MOA for half the price the other day!
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I got this t the CDR King SM Dasmarinas. It's a new product at P1500+, and then I saw one with another make without the need of a power supply at the Acer store at SM MOA for half the price the other day!
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Wow, a cheaper one at half the price w/ no need for a power supply? That's great. Is it also a cdr-king product? Or an acer product? Is there an exact name for the store at MOA or just acer? Still not sure that the one at the acer store will work (lot's of those powerless converters lying around that don't actually work costing 800 or more, plus they don't have an audio plug like the one you have on your unit).
Btw, how's the cdr-king converter? Build wise/quality? Does it over heat after prolonged use? I'm really interested in it. Hope to connect it not just to the note 8 but to an android mini pc like the MINIX NEO G4.
I'm also thinking of connecting the the note 8/minix & this converter to an external battery/power pack to minimize the need for too many plugs. Do you suppose it might work (or tried it for yourself?)
Thanks a lot for your very helpful post and your quick response. I was losing hope that I would ever be able to connect android to a…regular monitor/projector.
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I got this at the CDR King SM Dasmarinas. It's a new product at P1500+, and then I saw one with another make without the need of a power supply at the Acer store at SM MOA for half the price the other day!
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ProjectER said:
Wow, a cheaper one at half the price w/ no need for a power supply? That's great. Is it also a cdr-king product? Or an acer product? Is there an exact name for the store at MOA or just acer? Still not sure that the one at the acer store will work (lot's of those powerless converters lying around that don't actually work costing 800 or more, plus they don't have an audio plug like the one you have on your unit).
I'm also thinking of connecting the the note 8/minix & this converter to an external battery/power pack to minimize the need for too many plugs. Do you suppose it might work (or tried it for yourself?)
Thanks a lot for your very helpful post and your quick response. I was losing hope that I would ever be able to connect android to a…regular monitor/projector.
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Please beware of the fact that the non powered HDMI to VGA converters don't really work with the Note 8.0 MHL to HDMI. I am not sure why....but they don't, probably the MHL doesn't give enough power to run the converter. I tried and it didn't work.
That's not to say that Non powered converter never works, when you connect to a regular HDMI port like of a laptop, it works very well, and mine also had an audio out. Had to return it with a lot of difficulty.
If you just want to connect a note 8.0/note 2/S3 to a VGA input, take a look at this as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248575
Only one MHL to VGA adapter and a 5 pin to 11 pin adapter needed. Also, only a single power source required, much simpler.
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ProjectER said:
Wow, a cheaper one at half the price w/ no need for a power supply? That's great. Is it also a cdr-king product? Or an acer product? Is there an exact name for the store at MOA or just acer? Still not sure that the one at the acer store will work (lot's of those powerless converters lying around that don't actually work costing 800 or more, plus they don't have an audio plug like the one you have on your unit).
Btw, how's the cdr-king converter? Build wise/quality? Does it over heat after prolonged use? I'm really interested in it. Hope to connect it not just to the note 8 but to an android mini pc like the MINIX NEO G4.
I'm also thinking of connecting the the note 8/minix & this converter to an external battery/power pack to minimize the need for too many plugs. Do you suppose it might work (or tried it for yourself?)
Thanks a lot for your very helpful post and your quick response. I was losing hope that I would ever be able to connect android to a…regular monitor/projector.
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As Agambhandari has warned, it looks like the unpowered type will probably will NOT work! The CDR King with the power adapter works quite fine, and has an audio out anyway. It doesn't produce any heat and I have tested it to an HD tv and projector. It's working fine with good audio out - probably why it needs to be powered. The only thing I find frustrating is the power adapter is not a micro USB type of connector, like for the Note 8. So you really need to plug in for its power source, hence you cannot power it with your external battery pack unless you have that exact plug adapter (USB to the round power plug).
One problem I encountered is the video ratio. It cannot adjust the 10:16 ratio to my old 3:4 Viewsonic monitor, and everything is just stretched vertically. My old monitor doesn't have the option to match the 10:16 of the Note 8. It works fine with contemporary lcd tvs and the projector since they match the 10:16 ratio and they have options to adjust.
Yes, the ₱1,580 CDR King HDMI to VGA converter is worth the buy. You only need to be careful of buying the correct 11-pin micro USB to HDMI adapter for the Note II/S3/S4/Note 10.1/Note. The old micro USB to HDMI adaptor that worked with the Note 1 will not work for the Note 8.
You need to hurry up or else stocks run out and it's usually months till they stock up on these.
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As Agambhandari has warned, it looks like the unpowered type will probably will NOT work! The CDR King with the power adapter works quite fine, and has an audio out anyway. It doesn't produce any heat and I have tested it to an HD tv and projector. It's working fine with good audio out - probably why it needs to be powered. The only thing I find frustrating is the power adapter is not a micro USB type of connector, like for the Note 8. So you really need to plug in for its power source, hence you cannot power it with your external battery pack unless you have that exact plug adapter (USB to the round power plug).
One problem I encountered is the video ratio. It cannot adjust the 10:16 ratio to my old 3:4 Viewsonic monitor, and everything is just stretched vertically. My old monitor doesn't have the option to match the 10:16 of the Note 8. It works fine with contemporary lcd tvs and the projector since they match the 10:16 ratio and they have options to adjust.
Yes, the ₱1,580 CDR King HDMI to VGA converter is worth the buy. You only need to be careful of buying the correct 11-pin micro USB to HDMI adapter for the Note II/S3/S4/Note 10.1/Note. The old micro USB to HDMI adaptor that worked with the Note 1 will not work for the Note 8.
You need to hurry up or else stocks run out and it's usually months till they stock up on these.
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thanks again to TheNeighbor101 and Agambhandari for your great inputs. I agree that Agambhandari's set up is simpler when connecting the note 8 in particular (at least one less power cord). However, i also want this adapter as a multpurpose adapter, so i can connect any tablet with an HDMI out to a projecter or even (as I said earlier) an android mini pc. I used to think that HDMI was so out of the ordinary to be practical when every laptop had a vga port but now that tablets have become mainstream, how i wish HDMI ports were more common place in everyday projectors (how quickly the future creeps up on us)...
I realized that an android mini pc is cheaper (smaller like a big usb flash drive) to just leave connected to a projector while you mirror your presentation from the note 8. Kingsoft office is great with this especially with the floating notes in presentation mode (you see your speaker notes on the multiwindow of the note 8 but it stays hidden on the mirroring device). I wouldn't want to leave the note 8 connected/chained to the projector while you're at the podium/stage. Am still saving up for the set up. Will post feed back if i hopefully get it working....
btw: i'm using the generic 11-pin for the note 8 (it works, tried it on the tv). I thought that the new 11 pin allows for simultaneous charging of the note 8/note2/S3/S4 (as compared to the original 5 pin which didn't)...however, when plugged in, it just seems to power the mhl-hdmi cable. the note 8 shows a charging icon but continues to discharge (bat levels number continues to go down) despite being plugged to a socket? is this becuase it's a generic cable? If I use the true samsung cable will that charge the note 8 and power the mhl cable?
Thanks again to you both....you saved me a ton of effort. More power to XDA
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thanks again to TheNeighbor101 and Agambhandari for your great inputs. I agree that Agambhandari's set up is simpler when connecting the note 8 in particular (at least one less power cord). However, i also want this adapter as a multpurpose adapter, so i can connect any tablet with an HDMI out to a projecter or even (as I said earlier) an android mini pc. I used to think that HDMI was so out of the ordinary to be practical when every laptop had a vga port but now that tablets have become mainstream, how i wish HDMI ports were more common place in everyday projectors (how quickly the future creeps up on us)...
I realized that an android mini pc is cheaper (smaller like a big usb flash drive) to just leave connected to a projector while you mirror your presentation from the note 8. Kingsoft office is great with this especially with the floating notes in presentation mode (you see your speaker notes on the multiwindow of the note 8 but it stays hidden on the mirroring device). I wouldn't want to leave the note 8 connected/chained to the projector while you're at the podium/stage. Am still saving up for the set up. Will post feed back if i hopefully get it working....
btw: i'm using the generic 11-pin for the note 8 (it works, tried it on the tv). I thought that the new 11 pin allows for simultaneous charging of the note 8/note2/S3/S4 (as compared to the original 5 pin which didn't)...however, when plugged in, it just seems to power the mhl-hdmi cable. the note 8 shows a charging icon but continues to discharge (bat levels number continues to go down) despite being plugged to a socket? is this becuase it's a generic cable? If I use the true samsung cable will that charge the note 8 and power the mhl cable?
Thanks again to you both....you saved me a ton of effort. More power to XDA
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I use a non-Samsung micro USB to HDMI adapter too. It's practically the same thing and quality but at half the price. It slows down the power consumption. It's charging but the rate of incoming charge is lower than the discharging of the battery to power the screen and processing. Try charging it through the adapter with screen turned off or without connecting to an HDMI as an experiment to see this.
If that's your case, my advice is you get the Samsung AllShareCast dongle for only ₱3,800 and connect to the VGA adapter. This is a strong recommendation, unless the Android pc has a wifi hotspot capability, you need to rely on the local network to operate with RemoDroid (only works on rooted) and the frame rate is low and laggy for live sketching or markups. Videos can't show on the projected screen.
The AllShareCast dongle is perfect. Practically shows no image delay. I plan to get one myself for a big presentation around August as I'll be presenting an architectural design to a group of people. I'll need to sketch to get my points across.
rooted stock Galaxy Note 8 GT-N5100
Are you using the stock note 8.0 charger which has a 2.0 A rating?
Your case also happened to me but then, I was using a Nokia charger with a lower rating of only 1.3 A?
There would be no difference in usage or utility of a Samsung and a compatible adapter.
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Yup, using the official charger
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Are you using the stock note 8.0 charger which has a 2.0 A rating?
Your case also happened to me but then, I was using a Nokia charger with a lower rating of only 1.3 A?
There would be no difference in usage or utility of a Samsung and a compatible adapter.
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Yes, I'm using the official charger. Thanks. So no dice with the simultaneous usage/charging I supposed (and I thought that was one of the advantages of the new 11 pin.)
Anyway, will keep both your comments and suggestions in mind. Just wish the generic screen mirroring on JB 4.2.2 would start being more main stream so we don't have to get stuck with Samsung products using group play and all share cast.I know that chinese tablets are already getting a WIMORX implentation of this and it looks pretty good. I hope this gets baked into a rom. Remodroid hasn't been updated in a while for rootless screen mirroring (on samsung and lg devices). Thanks again to you both.
The generic screen mirroring is actually known as Miracast. AllShare Cast is nothing different from it except the name.
If you have one of the new TV's or any Miracast adapter, the Note 8.0 will also mirror easily to that.
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any generic android mini pc to support generic miracast?
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The generic screen mirroring is actually known as Miracast. AllShare Cast is nothing different from it except the name.
If you have one of the new TV's or any Miracast adapter, the Note 8.0 will also mirror easily to that.
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Oh so it will work on any miracast adapter?Thanks...I just think that buying a miracast adapter is way to expensive for just mirroring which is why I was thinking of getting an android mini pc stick instead. This way, If i'm not mirroing the note 8, i can still use the stick as a mini pc for the TV. The price of good android mini pc's and the proprietary samsung adapter are just about the same. My problem with the mini pc's is that they're all mostly on ICS4.-- JB 4.1 which don't have working miracast yet. JB 4.2 has it but I'm not sure it will work across all devices.
Do you have any suggestions for cheaper generic miracast adapters (preferably as portable as the samsung one)?
Thanks again.
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Yes, I'm using the official charger. Thanks. So no dice with the simultaneous usage/charging I supposed (and I thought that was one of the advantages of the new 11 pin.)
Anyway, will keep both your comments and suggestions in mind. Just wish the generic screen mirroring on JB 4.2.2 would start being more main stream so we don't have to get stuck with Samsung products using group play and all share cast.I know that chinese tablets are already getting a WIMORX implentation of this and it looks pretty good. I hope this gets baked into a rom. Remodroid hasn't been updated in a while for rootless screen mirroring (on samsung and lg devices). Thanks again to you both.
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I found an app called Screen Standby that turns off the screen while it is actively connected to the HDMI dongle. It means you can mirror everything onto the projector/screen, except the device's screen is off. It can give you a more charging. You need to root for this to work.
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interested on this find
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The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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I'm interested - How long did it take to ship and how much shipping fees? Holding up alright after a month?
minix WIMORX compatibile with Samsung's ALLSHARE cast?
agambhandari said:
The generic screen mirroring is actually known as Miracast. AllShare Cast is nothing different from it except the name.
If you have one of the new TV's or any Miracast adapter, the Note 8.0 will also mirror easily to that.
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Hi, just to add to my first reply about generic miracast. I'm thinking of getting the minix neo x5 mini. It has WIMORX installed. I was wondering if anyone in the note 8 forums has actually seen MINIX's WIMORX and SAMSUNG'S allshare cast (basically both proprietary names for MIRACAST) working together. I've alread seen WIMORX working on you tube and it's really fast even with 2d games (haven't seen 3d games yet)...and we already know that ALLSHARE cast is also good...this may help me decide on this product. I know that based on agambhandari's post it should in theory be compatible but just wanted to know if anyone has actually tried it out or seen it working... thanks...again.
Thought I'd update this thread a bit.
TheNeighbor101 said:
I use a non-Samsung micro USB to HDMI adapter too. It's practically the same thing and quality but at half the price. It slows down the power consumption. It's charging but the rate of incoming charge is lower than the discharging of the battery to power the screen and processing. Try charging it through the adapter with screen turned off or without connecting to an HDMI as an experiment to see this.
If that's your case, my advice is you get the Samsung AllShareCast dongle for only ₱3,800 and connect to the VGA adapter. This is a strong recommendation, unless the Android pc has a wifi hotspot capability, you need to rely on the local network to operate with RemoDroid (only works on rooted) and the frame rate is low and laggy for live sketching or markups. Videos can't show on the projected screen.
The AllShareCast dongle is perfect. Practically shows no image delay. I plan to get one myself for a big presentation around August as I'll be presenting an architectural design to a group of people. I'll need to sketch to get my points across.
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Greetings,
It's been a while. i thought I'd share some of my experiences on trying to hook up to VGA and ask a few questions as well while I'm at it. I din't get the allsharecast dongle. Instead, I opted to get the minix neo g4 android mini pc. It's a great product. I figured, the allshare cast dongle is great but it doesn't do much else without a samsung device to mirror its contents. The minix is a full fledged android device running 4.1 (upgradable to 4.2) so even without any samsung or other android device, it can stand on its own. It's RK remote is amazing as well so you can play touch games like dead trigger 2 on it using your android phone as the controller (ala droidmote). For presentations, I realized that kingsoft office is great since you can "share play" powerpoints slides similar to presenter view on a windows PC. To illustrate, you can present the slides on the minix neo g4 (synchronized to the note 8) and still pull out your slide notes on the note 8 (without these showing up on the minix/vga projector set up). With screen mirroring, if you pull out your slide notes than this gets mirrored to the projector screen.
Instead of getting the CDRking HDMI to vga converter with audio noted on this post, i opted to get the MINIX HDMI to VGA converter. It also works like a charm. Connected it to a samsung laptop's HDMI (at the store) and it worked, connected it to an asus TF101 tablet (mini HDMI to REGULAR HDMI than to MINIX HDMI-VGA) and it worked, connected it to the minix neo G4 and obviously...it WORKED (FULL 1080p)...plus it has an audio out (for full speakers) as well that WORKS even without connecting the optional power supply to the converter....now the sad part and also my question....
1)I connected it to the NOTE 8 and tried the S2 as well: MHL to HDMI adapter then to the MINIX HDMI-VGA adapter. The TV connected, the "hdmi connected" appeared on the note 8, the TV autoadjusted it's VGA input signals and then voila...GREEN SCREEN. Am I doing something wrong?
What I've found so far:
a) I read in another forum that some HDMI manufactureres USE some kind of HDMC digital code (sorry don't remember the actual acronym) to limit piracy of digital content.. Unfortunately, this HDMC code isn't supported by VGA so it won't work. Could that be what's going on? My asus is already on a custom rom (using the KATKIS 4.3 multiwindow stable edition rom which is excellent if i might add) and doesn't ende up with this GREEN SCREEN. The asus is also an older model using an even older GPU (Tegra 2) but it screen mirrors to VGA just fine. Is it time to flash a custom note 8 rom? Did you get a similar problem with your HDMI-VGA adapter. If so, how did you overcome it?
b) I've read in another forum that it's faulty cables but I used the same cables for the asus and minix.both worked without a hitch.
2) Next question. How did it go with the presentation using the note 8. You said you'd be using it with the allshare cast dongle. I've noticed that on the big screen (using kingsoft, quickoffice, polaris), all power point slides just aren't as sharp as when viewing them using a regular PC and windows software (even on the minix which already uses full HD 1080p resolution).Plus, there are always black bars along the sides.Can't full strecth the slide the way microsoft powerpoint stretches slides to fill the screen when presenting.
Thanks again.
Anyway
Had the same green screen problem. The problem I believe is that the MHL standard doesn't have enought power to give the hdmi to vga converter.
If possible try an MHL to VGA adapter, or else replace the current HDMI TO VGA with a powered HDMI to VGA .
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Hi there,
I just found this awesome tablet as I planned to exchange my Nexus 7 2013 LTE as car device. I bought Timurs Kernel for this and it works awesome. Unfortunately GSM-calls are not possible with the Nexus.
This flaw is gone with the Huawei tablet. It has a better CPU and Memory performance either. LTE Dual-Sim is also awesome.
Is it possible to port the kernel feature OTG + simultaneously charging combined with a PowerEvent Manager which puts the tablet in Deep Sleep Mode if Power drops and wakes it up when power is available again?
I think there is no chance to attach a 2nd screen via wire, isn't it? I also planned to extend the screen to a 5" Display in my upper car dashboard, but it's very hard to find 5" chrome/miracast displays. Perhaps somebody has a solution for this? I already tried to attach a HDMI chromecast to 5" HDMI Raspberry display, but there are big black stripes on the right and left sides so there are scaling issues I cannot influence.
Which steps would be necessary to get this features working?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Greetings
Schwimmbuxx.
No one interested in car media revolution?
From what I have read about the specs on this device, it has no NFC functionality so no wireless charging android pay etc.
Those are features I never use although I can see NFC charging coming in handy if the micro usb slot gets damaged.
I too am looking at buying one of these to replace my Nexus 7 2nd gen (a hard device to replace) and my now 4 year old ascend y550, I pretty much carry them both all the time since the Nexus is the WiFi version I hot spot my phone to it.
I'm sure there are apps and skins that allow you to set power on/off with usb power, designed for exactly what you are doing.