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Been a Samsung user since the the original note 3. I owned only OnePlus phone, aka OnePlus 1. It was fast back then and still is useable for me with custom rom. Now, current I own a note 5, I have it for almost 4 years now. Its getting slow even with a custom rom. There is not much support for the note 5 either, specially t mobile note 5. So my question is should I go with the Galaxy S10 plus or the OnePlus 7 Pro? S10 plus are listed for 750$ (8gb,128gb,unlocked). The OnePlus 7 Pro is also 750 unlocked with the best possible spec from OnePlus (256gb,12gb, unlocked). Money is not an issue for me to be honest, but I don't want to overpaid (weird). Which is better and your reason for choosing one over the other. Or .... Should I wait for the note 10? I know it's gonna be a beast :laugh:
honestly, I guess it comes down to personal preference.
i.e. Samsung is more feature packed but more locked down. OP is more dev friendly, if you'd like to play with modding and custom roms
Owning an s9+ for a couple of years, I enjoy some of the Samsung features, but could live without:
- water proofing - dunked the phone in water 3 times only: can't use the screen properly and that's a shame, also the speakers get muzzled and you get that annoying device is wet notification - better skip (the photos aren't that great either unless you're in a clear-water swimming pool)
- wireless charging - definitely cool feature, it's useful for me because I can charge the Iphone 8 with the same charger, but I use it mainly at night when placing the phone on the stand. It's too slow still. I definitely missed my OP5T charging speed when switching to Samsung, I literary changed charging habits with DASH
- micro-sd slot - never used it. I find popping out the tray to be an overkill. With cloud I don't see the point transferring videos (those are the storage eaters) over cable anymore. Or files for that mater. I use solid explorer and do my transfers via FTP server on my home wi-fi
- headphone jack - I guess I've used it only once. I find wired stuff cumbersome honestly and sacrificed some quality for comfort, even for home speakers. I listen to music everyday and it's nice to have two devices connect to the same headphones over BT
There's more to be discussed here, but you should really take a close look to your lifestyle, how your day goes by and match each device to that. You will certainly get your answer
OP7 PRO support HDMI or not like Samsung DEX ? If support i will buy one for sure couse will be best phone for me
I can not stand Samsung Bloatware, want Gmail does not matter here is Samsung Mail which you can not delete, want Chrome here is our Samsung browser, want Google Pay..... "Samsung Pay" .... etc.....
You will get Android 10, 2020 if you are lucky
And Samsung is still more expensive
Again it's personal preference.. I owned two oneplus devices before jumping to s10 plus..
Why samsung -
Features filled.
Water and dust proof
Not sure about custom roms support as I saw s9 and s8 has a tons of roms.. U have two options for roms one is oem rom another is aosp.. So when ur bored u can switch.
Headphone jack - Bluetooth doesn't support u always, the real master is headphone jack.
Better customer service world wide support.
Why oneplus
Strong dev support.. Still own 3T with rom support even after 3 years. Also the oneplus pushes updates till date.
Pricing - U get premium device for good deal..
Service center needs to be increased.
I'm really liking the new OnePlus 7 Pro, but I heard from the reviewers that with 90hz on, ur battery life won't last through a day. That refresh is one of the reasons I ant to buy the device. Been using 144hz monitor, so using phone with 60hz is not the best experience. I hope there will be more after market battery case, the current one for Oneplus device looks horrible. Custom is definitely a plus. To be honest the only reason for me to get s 10 or note 10 is good custom rom support, but right now, OnePlus 7 Pro looks so good to pass. With the cameras, I have to say still no where close to the pixel, but hope there will be a gcam version for it.
I have been using my op7p for a week now. Comparing to my gf s10 plus, I have to say the screen on the s10 plus is way over the 7pro, except the 90hz. Indoor usage, the brightness level for both phone is about the same; however, when it comes to using the phone under direct sunlight, the 7p falls behind. That the only thing I hope OnePlus will improve and the camera....., even my note 5 at max brightness is still usable under sun light. Everything else is great on the 7p. So worth it.
I still have both.
The ceramic S10 feels nicer in the hand and is noticeably easier to one-hand.
Always on display and wireless charging are big plusses
Both screens are great but if you pushed me I'd give the advantage to the Samsung.
I way prefer oxygen os over one UI, and there is a degree of comfort knowing you get the updates quicker, OP are very active in this regard
The OP7 pro is faster across the board at pretty much everything.
I find I get better and more reliable 4g and wifi performance on the OP. Starting to think my S10+ (exynos) may have something wrong with the radios.
YMMV
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I got rid of the OnePlus 7 Pro after 7 days of usage:
1. 90hz RR just disappears at most usages(there is a workaround using adb to enable 90 Hz RR but keeping at a fixed 90 Hz further dents on battery life).
2. The curves are rather deep (reminded me the curves of Galaxy s6 edge, s7 edge, s8+ that I didn't like)- my earlier Note 9 and current s10+'s less curvy & squarish design feel better to avoid accidental touches(& typing letters p, q, etc.) and reflection under artificial lighting conditions.
-3. Under sunlight, the s10+'s screen is way more legible. It's occasional to have such usage, but when it does , it does matter.
4. Like the notchless display, but at the cost of a pop-up camera that accumulates dust and debris in the compartment- that doesn't retract entirely by the time it touches ground dropping from a weist height/table is not something I appreciate.
5. It's heavy and big ,becomes uncomforfortable for my liking to talk for longer period of time. I was not happy with the weight of 512 gigs S10+ especially when talking for an hour or so daily, hence swapped to a 128 gigs version(175gms) that feels just right. At 206 gms+the weight of a case, I found the 7 Pro way more uncomfortable to use in 1 week of my of usage.
6. No IP rating counts. No company offers warranty for liquid damaged units even with IP rating but they do so bcoz they do not know how long the user kept in water- for 30 mins, 30 hours or for days, for 1 meter deep, 2 meters or was in salt water... But with an official IP rating it's a peace of mind. You can dunk a certified IP67/68 rated smartphone in a swimming pool without thinking twice but you can't with the 7 Pro with a fear of damaging it. For light rain or splash- 7 Pro is fine, so does most of the non-IP certified smartphones now a days with zero advertising of "bucket-test" by the manufacturer itself.I do not like a smartphone that often accumulates dust. To users like me, ingress protection matters.
7. Why have a glass back on when no wireless charging ? Probably even OnePlus does not know.
8. OOS 9.5.7 improved the camera but it still has focusing issues in low light and macro, and wide angle cam can't be used for video yet- These are nitpicky and might get resolved with future updates.
(OOS 9.5.8 is out but I couldn't get the chance to check it).
Overall the 7 Pro failed to impress me to be my daily driver even after having some strong "+ve" sides.
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I got rid of the OnePlus 7 Pro after 7 days of usage:
1. 90hz RR just disappears at most usages(there is a workaround using adb to enable 90 Hz RR but keeping at a fixed 90 Hz further dents on battery life).
2. The curves are rather deep (reminded me the curves of Galaxy s6 edge, s7 edge, s8+ that I didn't like)- my earlier Note 9 and current s10+'s less curvy & squarish design feel better to avoid accidental touches(& typing letters p, q, etc.) and reflection under artificial lighting conditions.
-3. Under sunlight, the s10+'s screen is way more legible. It's occasional to have such usage, but when it does , it does matter.
4. Like the notchless display, but at the cost of a pop-up camera that accumulates dust and debris in the compartment- that doesn't retract entirely by the time it touches ground dropping from a weist height/table is not something I appreciate.
5. It's heavy and big ,becomes uncomforfortable for my liking to talk for longer period of time. I was not happy with the weight of 512 gigs S10+ especially when talking for an hour or so daily, hence swapped to a 128 gigs version(175gms) that feels just right. At 206 gms+the weight of a case, I found the 7 Pro way more uncomfortable to use in 1 week of my of usage.
6. No IP rating counts. No company offers warranty for liquid damaged units even with IP rating but they do so bcoz they do not know how long the user kept in water- for 30 mins, 30 hours or for days, for 1 meter deep, 2 meters or was in salt water... But with an official IP rating it's a peace of mind. You can dunk a certified IP67/68 rated smartphone in a swimming pool without thinking twice but you can't with the 7 Pro with a fear of damaging it. For light rain or splash- 7 Pro is fine, so does most of the non-IP certified smartphones now a days with zero advertising of "bucket-test" by the manufacturer itself.I do not like a smartphone that often accumulates dust. To users like me, ingress protection matters.
7. Why have a glass back on when no wireless charging ? Probably even OnePlus does not know.
8. OOS 9.5.7 improved the camera but it still has focusing issues in low light and macro, and wide angle cam can't be used for video yet- These are nitpicky and might get resolved with future updates.
(OOS 9.5.8 is out but I couldn't get the chance to check it).
Overall the 7 Pro failed to impress me to be my daily driver even after having some strong "+ve" sides.
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First world problems lol. Most of your cons are personal preference and also based on aesthetics. Only thing i can agree with slightly is the wireless charging. It wouldn't make sense to get wireless charging that gets you full battery in 2.5 or 3 hours over warp charge in an hour or less(?). Camera is OK, i'll take the 7 pro over the overly done beauty shot in selfie mode and over saturation on the s10. There also has been tests to see if the 7 Pro is water resistant, plenty of videos on youtube and insurance is optional on the phone which do cover drops, spills and cracks. Heaviness of the phone... i like it, better than the lightweight of the s10. Maybe the next one will impress ya.
Don't really care about the weight ? I need more battery, so I ordered a battery case to run 90hz full time. You can tweak it. The rest really depends on your need and personal references.
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Don't really care about the weight ? I need more battery, so I ordered a battery case to run 90hz full time. You can tweak it. The rest really depends on your need and personal references.
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Pro Weight lifter. Talk sometimes.
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Don't really care about the weight I need more battery, so I ordered a battery case to run 90hz full time. You can tweak it. The rest really depends on your need and personal references.
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One can easily find an international Samsung Galaxy S10+ within 50-60 dollars price difference. When you compare side-by-side (features, specifications, and aesthetics), S10+ beats OP7 Pro hands down. The biggest strength of OP branding was to provide customers speed at a reasonable price. With negligible price difference why would you even buy OP7 Pro?
Oh, did I mention the almost useless OP customer service? I could not get my OP6T repaired through OP d/t horrible customer service. I am a firm believer you get what you pay for.
If the OP7 Pro price was capped under $600, then the value proposition would have given OP7 an advantage. Again, just my personal opinion, your mileage may vary.
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One can easily find an international Samsung Galaxy S10+ within 50-60 dollars price difference. When you compare side-by-side (features, specifications, and aesthetics), S10+ beats OP7 Pro hands down. The biggest strength of OP branding was to provide customers speed at a reasonable price. With negligible price difference why would you even buy OP7 Pro?
Oh, did I mention the almost useless OP customer service? I could not get my OP6T repaired through OP d/t horrible customer service. I am a firm believer you get what you pay for.
If the OP7 Pro price was capped under $600, then the value proposition would have given OP7 an advantage. Again, just my personal opinion, your mileage may vary.
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Where I live the s10 plus is about the same price as the 12gb model op7p. I used student discount to buy the op7p so it is cheaper. Both are new and unclocked, but you get more ram storage higher refresh rate with the 7. The software is also better on the 7. Everytime I use a Samsung device, I have to flash custom rom to get the most out of it. Sometime, developer abandoned the project and the rom never get updated. The s10 plus beats the 7 outdoor visibility which I really wish the op7p would get to 1000 nits and the camera (opinion), depends on what you prefer. Samsung used to be great, beefy spec, newest technology, but they rather selling components to other companies to make more money than use it for their own products. If the note 10 comes with 90hz or higher, I would drop my money for it, but we all know too well that it won't. The question I asked before buying is why would I get 60hz? When the 90hz is way better. It's night and day difference.
I traded my 512gb S10 plus for the 12/256GB oneplus 7 pro and I think both phones are great. I think the only thing the s10 did better was to quickly adjust to the surrounding light. I often find myself adjusting the brightness level of my OP7P as it is often too dim and too slow to ramp up the nits. Other than that I'm quite happy with it. Until the Note 10 pro that is?
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First world problems lol. Most of your cons are personal preference and also based on aesthetics. Only thing i can agree with slightly is the wireless charging. It wouldn't make sense to get wireless charging that gets you full battery in 2.5 or 3 hours over warp charge in an hour or less(?). Camera is OK, i'll take the 7 pro over the overly done beauty shot in selfie mode and over saturation on the s10. There also has been tests to see if the 7 Pro is water resistant, plenty of videos on youtube and insurance is optional on the phone which do cover drops, spills and cracks. Heaviness of the phone... i like it, better than the lightweight of the s10. Maybe the next one will impress ya.
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Fast charging and wireless charging have nothing to do with one another, lol. The convenience if wireless charging is not having to plus something in. So much nicer to just set something down and let it charge. It's not meant to be a fast wireless charger. If u wanted to charge faster, I'd plug it in, lol. Like the Huawei. It's got wireless charging and fast wired. Two separate solutions for two separate problems. One doesn't trump the other. The Galaxy phones have a quick wired charging so it's not super slow if you needed some juice. But the OnePlus has NO (zilch, zero, nada) option for wireless charging.
I immediately eliminate any phone with a notch from my list. I thought thanks to new hole in display Samsung phones I would keep my note 9 until they release phones without which may not be for another 2 years. No thanks to 7 pro with its 6.7 inch no notch display I got the upgrade itch. Why anybody would buy a notched phone is beyond me. What a stupid idea. Imagine your TV having a notch . 7 pro out selling s10 in China and people have spoken.
Despite the speed of the processor and the fluidity of the 90 hz display, the 6GB OnePlus 7 Pro retains the same disastrous problem from it's predecessor - pathetic RAM management. The stock phone app hangs! Other apps hang too, but the hung phone app on a Rs.49,000 phone is unacceptable under any yardstick or scale.
Summary: A high end phone with a hung phone app is what the latest 6GB model of OnePlus 7 Pro is. None of the PVR cinema ads or online hype makes no mention of the reality that it cannot meet the bare minimum requirement of a smartphone - a working stock phone application. That's all this review is all about. If you don't have time, you can leave it here.
If you want the numbers continue reading. 85% of RAM is always used up, that is without opening a single RAM heavy app. Spoke to Amazon tech support and OnePlus support. All they could do is show me where to find the list of apps consuming the memory (which show average memory use over a period of time, not live data). I had to uninstall many essential apps (none of them are games or have heavy graphics) significantly reducing the value of my OnePlus device. Wonder why they don't show the live data? the RAM management that's shockingly bad. Installed 2 professional diagnostic tools to check (one of them advised by Amazon tech support) and the RAM used under below average load conditions was 85% (after uninstalling RAM heavy apps.) This probably has to do with overclocked processing. Flightradar24 is an app I cannot do without, as a frequent flyer. It's RAM heavy according to OnePlus. I now run it on a cheap backup from Xioami phone (which by the way costs 1/10 that of the OnePlus 7 Pro). Same with Uber, bank apps and financial market tracker apps, which did not have any problems running on my previous device - Samsung S10 plus. I gave it away. At least it was far lighter and reliable than OnePlus. Oh OnePlus has a fancy 90Hz display and fast fingerprint reader, the effects of which wear off in the 1st week of use. When reality dawns, half a lakh of cash is gone. The display or fingerprint reader cannot compensate for a hung phone app.
The conclusion is - the phone like a caged lion, struggles within the bars of it's limited RAM. It gives off the sensation of unreliability. The slippery smooth glass combined with the tablet-heavy phone reduces reliability further. It requires a minimum of 8GB, if not more in the long run.
The worse part is Oneplus cannot do anything. And Amazon cannot replace is as the stock apps getting stuck on account of insufficient RAM is a technical issue and not one that warrants a replacement of device. Again, OnePlus is not Samsung. BEWARE.
Batterylife? Forget 90 hz Even when kept at 60 hz fulltime it's lower than the exynos model of samsung gs10 plus. This is a fact, I KNOW because just before this Oneplus I used gs10 plus for three months in a raw.
Lemme tell about outdoor visibility :-- It plain SUCKS. Due to my job commitment I stay outdoors many a times. And I end up finding shades to see what's in the screen LMAO. It's 2019 for God's sake Oneplus. Poor minimal nits was intentional to keep batterylife in control is what oneplus did with the best of my thinking. No option to choose 90 hz in settings as it would eat up battery like an elephant drinking water. Oneplus already clarified that. More bigger battery means more height,width,length and weight than that it already is, so didn't. Very nice move.
The oneplus has a specific audience =>> college/highschool going students who love consuming media non- stop and happy playing PUBG and other games, keep in watching movies, browse social media, comment, recharge and repeat. Definitely does not look like made this keeping corporates in mind. I'm repenting for not doing enough research before buying this. Learnt a lesson and selling this in OLX. Forgive me who have read this far but did not like it at all for me not at all knowing how fast, no notch , yada yada great of a phone this oneplus is.
I had to decide between the s10+ and 7 pro as the 10+ was just 25$ more. I chose 7 pro because it was impossible for me to cope with the pill, I find it worse than a notch just because it has screen between it and the frame making it feel like a part of the image(an ugly part especially because the sky sits there if you watch stuff on it...)
Got a chance to own both devices (actually S10+, P30 Pro and OP7 Pro)
Oneplus 7 Pro (overall)
1. 90hz + QHD + Amoled display is the icing on the cake here.
2. The warp charging will definitely makes you think of choosing OP over S10 all day.
3. Superb gaming experience.
4. Battery life still good if not the best among flagship phones available today, I'm seriously getting 7hrs SOT with 90hz and QHD settings and that's more than enough for me given the fact that I can warp charge my 7 pro.
5. Completely full display (notchless/ no pinhole design).
S10 plus
1. Display brightness
2. Lightweight and easy to hold with one (1) hand.
3. Ip68 rating (its good to have this on the next oneplus)
4. 3.5mm jack
5. OneUI customization
6. Wireless charging is good to have but it's no use for me.
If I were to choose:
1. P30 Pro on top (very slight edge over the Oneplus 7 Pro)
2. Oneplus 7 pro
3. S10 plus
Hi good folks!
I want to upgrade from a note8 to a new phone but the more I read the more questions I have. I have chosen to settle for the 20 line because of the card slot and s21 and s22 don't have it. Apart the SD card slot, I need a long sot and great caméras (i travel à lot)
Anyway I have a couple of questions and I hope you'll be able to answer them! Thank you!
1. The note20 ultra has a variable refresh rate. Does it means it can do 1440p at a vrr of 45 to 120hz? And it also means the sot lasts longer?
2. The s20 ultra has a bigger battery and in most of the tests the sot is between 10 and 13 hours. Compared to the note20u at 7 to 10. Is that what you've seen also?
3. Cameras. The main camera picture quality is almost the same but I wanted to talk about selfies. I think the s20u has better selfies than the note. Is that true?
4. A 3z5mm jack would be a blessing but they dont produce it anymore?
Which one would you chose? Or maybe I should go with another phone like the Xperia 1 Mk. 3? Or maybe the v60?
Hello. I have some ansvers on your questions.
1. WlQHD goes only 60Hz, but FHD+ has Adaptive screen rate switching from 1Hz up to 120Hz.
2. No abswer on this question. With my usage Note 20 Ultra is good. I'm happy.
3. Camera on Note 20 Ultra is better then S20 Ultra. And S20 Ultra has focus issue. But if we look wide then there are many scenarios which depends of light, background and situation.
4. No 3.5mm jack. So you have to use usb-c dongle.
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Hello. I have some ansvers on your questions.
1. WlQHD goes only 60Hz, but FHD+ has Adaptive screen rate switching from 1Hz up to 120Hz.
2. No abswer on this question. With my usage Note 20 Ultra is good. I'm happy.
3. Camera on Note 20 Ultra is better then S20 Ultra. And S20 Ultra has focus issue. But if we look wide then there are many scenarios which depends of light, background and situation.
4. No 3.5mm jack. So you have to use usb-c dongle.
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1. That's a bummer
2. And how long can your phone last with GPS, BT and LTE connected?
3. Good to know! And what about the selfie camera?
4. No problem.
Overall, would you recommend this phone?
2. With my usage all day. In the evening when I'm going to sleep I put on charge.
latouffe said:
Hi good folks!
I want to upgrade from a note8 to a new phone but the more I read the more questions I have. I have chosen to settle for the 20 line because of the card slot and s21 and s22 don't have it. Apart the SD card slot, I need a long sot and great caméras (i travel à lot)
Anyway I have a couple of questions and I hope you'll be able to answer them! Thank you!
1. The note20 ultra has a variable refresh rate. Does it means it can do 1440p at a vrr of 45 to 120hz? And it also means the sot lasts longer?
2. The s20 ultra has a bigger battery and in most of the tests the sot is between 10 and 13 hours. Compared to the note20u at 7 to 10. Is that what you've seen also?
3. Cameras. The main camera picture quality is almost the same but I wanted to talk about selfies. I think the s20u has better selfies than the note. Is that true?
4. A 3z5mm jack would be a blessing but they dont produce it anymore?
Which one would you chose? Or maybe I should go with another phone like the Xperia 1 Mk. 3? Or maybe the v60?
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Hello friend, I have the Note 20 Ultra (ex990) and I will try to clarify your doubts a bit:
1: The note 20 Ultra has VRR but at 1080p, it varies between 48hz-120hz, the way it works is as simple as if you don't touch the screen for 3s, it lowers the frequency normally to 60hz, from my point of view could have been implemented better...
2: I've had the S20 Ultra for 6 months as well, and I can tell you that I didn't notice any big difference in battery life, the S20U lasts a bit longer in certain situations (idle for example) but the difference isn't noticeable. The battery in general with the 990 ranges between 4h and 6.5h SOT at 120hz, and 5.5h and 8h at 60hz 2K.
3: I would like to say that the rear camera of the Note 20U seems much better to me because they fixed the problems that the S20U had, the selfie camera is definitely better in the S20U, but both are so good that it should not be a determining aspect.
4: The 3.5mm connector is doomed to disappear but Samsung includes a 3.5mm to USB-C adapter, it is a useful solution if you want to continue using your wired headphones, it is also worth noting that in Europe it includes very good quality AKG headphones in the box (USB-C).
Torn between S21+ and Note 10+. Watched Youtube videos and found nearly all the videos and the follow-up comments were one-sided: Note 10+ is better than S21+. Considering Note 10+ was 1.5 years older than S21+, it's hard to believe that note 10+ is really better than S21+. S21+ is now on sale plus the trade-in program with the T-mobile promotion. Which one is worth buying note 10+ or S21+? Thank you for the help!
You can still get a new N975U for $800 running on Q. I have two now, the other is a N975U1 running on Pie. In spite of being almost 2.5 years old my original one looks and runs like new. One battery replacement was the only repair. The display is still perfect. Current load will be 2 years old in June, still fast and stable.
SOT is 7-13%@hr, 7%@hr for Brave browser more for streaming vids.
The deal breaker against the S21+ are:
•No SD card* slot, I use a .5tb V30 Sandisk extreme soon the be upgraded to 1tb.
•The S21 and all variable rate displays have slightly poorer color rendering and numerous display issues of all sorts. The N10+ display has an excellent track record and it's gorgeous with square corners. Perfect for vids.
•The N10+ comes loaded with Q, no forced encryption and scoped storage isn't fully active, older apps run fine on it like WPS Office.
•The N10+ has a native spen for bt remote shutter release and the very useful Smart Capture tool.
•The N10+ is 7mm thick so even when well protected in a Zizo Bolt case it's not very thick and easy to hold and use.
•5G not needed as my cheap unlimited data plan is 4G. 4G uses less battery which is important to me.
•Cams are pretty damn good on the N10+, laser focus be nice but not high on the list. The better color rendering of the N19+ display outweigh the slightly better cams of newer models.
•Build quality of the N10+ is excellent, battle tested. All buttons, the spen still work like new.
Beyond all that the N10+ is a fun, snappy phone to use even after over 2 years. With 12gb of ram you just don't run out, nominal usage is 4.9-5.2gb on Pie.
The new one was $800, I didn't blink at the price as I know what I was getting. Both will likely never be upgraded to 11 or 12, security isn't an issue for Pie and up. Both can be upgraded to 12 if you wish but likely not 13.
The other phone I considered was the N20U but the 10+ won out. I'm having an excellent user experience with the beast, so I got a backup
*I use the SD card as a data drive, all critical data goes there including full backups (within the limits of a stock Android). I can do a full reload with no internet connection or PC, anywhere.
Moreover I carry my entire CD/HDCD collection in my pocket as wav files. A fast dual drive 1+tb PC in your pocket is magnificent.
Thank you Blackhawk! How is the camera on note 10+ compared with S21+? On eBay, I saw "brand new" note 10+ for less than $500.
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Thank you Blackhawk! How is the camera on note 10+ compared with S21+? On eBay, I saw "brand new" note 10+ for less than $500.
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Well I never shot with the S21+ so for all I know it's AF gets lock ons instantly. The 10+'s shutter release could be faster but nothing to compare to except pro cams I shoot with
Still pics, vids are good, action shots not... unless you use burst mode which is easy to do by simply holding the release.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release is great though. Below is one from 10 feet out... not even trying to make it nice.
Be very careful with vendors. Best to talk with them first on the phone. Many are misrepresenting what they are selling. The Snapdragon variant you want is the N975U, it interfaces with AT&T just by putting in the sim card. Assuming you're using AT&T; get the correct variant for your provider. Make sure it has 12gb of ram. Used ones will likely be reflashed to Android 11. You want to keep display brightness at 50% or lower; did the previous owner? AMOLED displays have a finite lifespan; the brightest stars burn out first.
Factory sealed, two day free delivery. I like this seller, not super cheap but top shelf phones, zero issues and he answers his phone. I did a lot of searching...
Personally I think the S21+ is a dog.
In my opinion the Note20U be your next best choice but I dismissed it in part because of potential reliability issues with the display, the display color rendering is less than the 10, and they are shipped with Android 11. The 5G modem will likely eat battery and it's form factor sucks. You may feel differently and as of today it is the last Note. Faster memory/cpu/spen, excellent cam (and hump) and variable refresh rate display. Be very careful if you buy one, a lot of scamming going on with this model worse than what I saw with the N10... it's bad.
Make sure it has 12gb of ram and is the unlocked factory model.
Got a headache yet?
Awesome! Thanks. I am now seriously thinking about getting a note 10+ instead of s21+. Appreciate your help!
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Awesome! Thanks. I am now seriously thinking about getting a note 10+ instead of s21+. Appreciate your help!
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It's a tough call between the N10+ and N20U*. On paper the N20U seems to have the edge.
In real life though... results may vary
Note 10+ display review.
Note 20U display review.
*S21+, for me the call is an easy no go
Hello
Having an S21U exynos for a year now I am thinking to swap it with a S22U snapdragon (yes we are getting Snapdragon in Middle East at last)
Who "upgraded" from S21 Ultra to S22 Ultra?
Do you regret it?
-Do you feel the screen is bigger and better?
-Is it true the speakers are bad? (Flossy Carter review)
-The battery is as good as the s21 ultra or worst?
-Anyone tried a third party 45w charger? Would it be faster than the Samsung one?
-Can you finally enlarge the statusbar to get a bigger clock font?
I actually did the upgrade basically because the pre-order incentives made it close to a 1:1 swap for me and I wanted to have a stylus / note experience.
To give you some replies to your direct questions:
Don't regret it.
Screen is basically the same.
Speakers seem fine, but I don't use them very loudly, would use another media device or headphones for that.
Battery seems equal, but I'm not a heavy gamer where the power hungry tendencies of the chip may be felt.
Haven't tried 45W fast charge, I use slow charge overnight and don't need to top off during the day .
Have never thought to enlarge font on status bar, but I would imagine that would not be any ability put into a specific phone model. You'd be looking for Goodlock module or some other 3rd party app to do so.
Bottom line, I'm loving the phone, but I loved my s21 ultra too. If I had to pay a lot to upgrade I would not have - most upgrades are negligible and both phones are amazingly capable.
Note - had SD version of s21 Ultra, have SD version of s22 Ultra. Not sure if Exynos changes the equation for you at all.
It is not a justified jump, because I think s21u is a complete phone. S22 is slight better in ever aspect + S pen but is worst in ergonomics.
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Hello
Having an S21U exynos for a year now I am thinking to swap it with a S22U snapdragon (yes we are getting Snapdragon in Middle East at last)
Who "upgraded" from S21 Ultra to S22 Ultra?
Do you regret it?
-Do you feel the screen is bigger and better?
-Is it true the speakers are bad? (Flossy Carter review)
-The battery is as good as the s21 ultra or worst?
-Anyone tried a third party 45w charger? Would it be faster than the Samsung one?
-Can you finally enlarge the statusbar to get a bigger clock font?
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I have both Snapdragon US variantrs
-bigger better? Better YES, Bigger, a bit
-speakers are great and both sound identical and good
-battery is better than my s21u
-I have a baseus 65w gan2 pro and it works great!
-not sure with the last part tho
I have used both Snapdragon variants. The S21 Ultra has better speakers, is narrower to hold, and has a stronger vibrate motor. Other than that the S22 Ultra is the same.
They're not the same phone. S22U is basically a note ultra.
Camera is better, mainly video glitching with AF hunting is fixed. It's the closest to iphone 13 Pro max I've seen.
Speakers don't sound as rich, but Apple wins in this department. Their speakers are like the HTC One M7 days. Battery life is brutal at first but once things settle in it's acceptable. No 13 Pro Max (is any phone even close LOL) but workable. S-pen is back, Note users rejoice! Biggest of all is e-sim actually works out of the box with the unlocked version in the USA!
I went from S21U to Google Pixel 6 Pro (meh) and now S22U, and I love it. Selling my S21U and Google 6 Pro. The camera on the S22U is a BEAST. The 1TB storage is incredible. The speed is great and I have zero regrets. Remember: soooooo many people are negative online, believe about 5% of what most people say.
I did. I dont regret it at all.
Better all around camera, especially low light pics and vids, as well as zoom past 10x. Way less lens flare too.
Battery seems almost the same, possibly a lil better.
Screen is brighter and better. My brother is still using his S21U, we put them side to side to compare. Yes, screen feels bigger/larger. S Pen is great!
Thanks everyone
So the snapdragon version doesn't suffer from the lags some people reported elsewhere?
About the speakers, people who found them not as good as the s21u, did you mean the sound quality or loudness?
I didn't root my s21u but I would for my s22u if it needs some sound mods
vegetaleb said:
Thanks everyone
So the snapdragon version doesn't suffer from the lags some people reported elsewhere?
About the speakers, people who found them not as good as the s21u, did you mean the sound quality or loudness?
I didn't root my s21u but I would for my s22u if it needs some sound mods
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I used the S21U for quite some time when it came out and now I[m on S22U, no regrets, like the form factor and design and SnapDragon is just sweet, no lags or issues on my part in more than a month. Sound is really good but then again, I'm mostly on headphones
Did they fix the built in earpiece speaker when using the phone to the ear and on a call it would exhibit distorted output if HD calling was not being used on the s21u.
We are a month before the s23u unveiling , I can still sell my s22u at 800ish $ but in a month it will start to loose resale value, so I am very tempted to switch to the Pixel 7 Pro
After a whole year with the s21u and 8 months with the s22u, I am bored and annoyed by samsung oneui, so I don't see myself another year with it.
The Oneplus 11 is just...average with a meh 2x zoom and nothing new as added value in the software and betting on a 11 Ultra is like betting on the lotery.
Xiaomi you will say? Well we don't have the Pro or Ultra series in my country (Lebanon) only the cheap ones and the UI is not sexy
The Pixel 7 Pro in another hand looks like a winner to me and is available in regular shops as we can't buy it online from Google, it's 1020$ for the 256gb model.
So here's the conclusion I got from reading reviews and videos, if I am wrong please let me know, or if you have additional point to add from your experience:
Advantages Pixel 7 Pro over the S22U:
-Rounded corners, more ergonomic
-Lighter by 17gm (I am pretty sure you can feel them on a smartphone) and 20gm with a s23u
-Rootable without the culprit of knox
-More responsive UI , what I HATE with samsung UI for the last 6 years is that you can't open anything as log as there is a micro scrolling animation, you end up tapping twice or 3 time to open an app or settings
-5x optical zoom is more useful than 10x in everyday life, at least for me, and the 2x hybrid zoom looks pretty sharp
-Speakers are louder and crisper
-Several new AI stuff, some gimmicky and other useful
-Tap tap on the back to launch an app
What I will loose:
-The slightly bigger screen size
-Shortcuts in the lockscreen
-Faster charging time, it takes about 50 mins to recharge from 30 to 100% on my s22u, how long your P7P takes?
-2 nano sim cards tray. I will have to transform my actual line to esim to let a place for a temporary sim card when traveling with the P7P
My questions:
-Can you use tap on the back while the screen is off, sort of replacing the missing shortcuts in the lockscreen? I use the torch light everyday
-Can you simply install a third party lockscreen or you will need a custom rom?
-Actual custom roms have the new AI stuff introduced on the P7 series?
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My questions:
-Can you use tap on the back while the screen is off, sort of replacing the missing shortcuts in the lockscreen? I use the torch light everyday
-Can you simply install a third party lockscreen or you will need a custom rom?
-Actual custom roms have the new AI stuff introduced on the P7 series?
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Yes
There is really no need for custom ROMS anymore
See above
Having used both the S22 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, I'd wait for the S23 Ultra, or even the Pixel 8 Pro. The S22 Ultra is simply the superior phone. The screen is way better (more vibrant, bright, and crisp), the scrolling is smoother (see the P7P scrolling issue), the battery life, charging speeds are better, and the reception / data speeds are better. Heck, using a series of mods, one can make the S22U UI look 95% like the Pixel UI without root.
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Having used both the S22 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, I'd wait for the S23 Ultra, or even the Pixel 8 Pro. The S22 Ultra is simply the superior phone. The screen is way better (more vibrant, bright, and crisp), the scrolling is smoother (see the P7P scrolling issue), the battery life, charging speeds are better, and the reception / data speeds are better. Heck, using a series of mods, one can make the S22U UI look 95% like the Pixel UI without root.
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I agree. I've had both the S22 Ultra since launch. I could get a Pixel 7 Pro through work for cheap (about <$200), and I've been using it since October. It's not a bad phone by any means, but overall I prefer the S22 Ultra. Better build quality, better screen, better battery life, better performance. Better, smoother overall experience (and I don't even use the stylus at all). I do like the faster shutter time of the P7P camera, though, so it's easier to capture moving objects.
I have deliberately hung on to my S22 Ultra. Samsung's Unpacked event is scheduled for February 1, when they will undoubtedly announce their S23 series. Assuming they will have similar trade-in deals as with the S22 Ultra last year (I ended up paying about $200 for my S22 Ultra with a trade-in of my S21 Ultra, with free $100 accessory credit to boot), I'm planning to take advantage of that and then sell my Pixel 7 Pro. I should easily come out ahead with that, with money left in my pocket. And even if I decide to keep my Pixel Pro 7, I can sell a brand-new S23 Ultra for a lot more than what I can get for my current S22 Ultra. Last year you got a $1,000 trade-in credit for the previous year's S21 Ultra. I would expect it should be similar this year, which should bring down the price for the S23 Ultra with S22 Ultra trade-in to $300 or so. And they might even throw in other incentives, such as accessory credit or a free watch.
You mention you could sell your S22 Ultra for $800 or so today. I highly doubt that. I'd be happy to get $600 for it, particularly with all the S22 Ultra discounts out there now to clear stock before the S23 Ultra launch.
Either way, it's a win-win for me, and I'll end up with a couple of hundred dollars in my pocket.
Good luck!
--Ron
pixel 7 pro best decission overALL
I am not in the US to get the good prices of the samsung trade in and besides I am tired of sammy UI, I don't see myself using a Samsung another year.
Though the screen image quality and charging time are the only 2 things that are not letting me swap my s22u with the Pixel easily.
I can cope with the slower charging time but what about the screen that you like it much more than the 7 Pro ? Is it because it's more saturated ? I found the vivid mode too vivid and the normal one too bleach , that's why I use the Cinema mode which is hidden and can't be selected but by an adb command, this mode made the saturation right in the middle between normal and vivid, is the Pixel 7 Pro somehow just less saturated than the S22U vivid mode?