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I came from using an iPhone. The things I loved about iOS were the smoothness of the operating system (especially the animations and scrolling in apps) and the nice slection of apps that is available. Now I was up for a new phone last month and after serieusly considering the new iPhone 6 I decided to give Android another go. I really liked what google had done with android 5 and the new apps coming out were much more to my taste. I tried several phones in shops and my wife's One plus One. To my surprise the one plus was very smooth most of the time. Scrolling was finally almost without lag and it felt nice enough to use.
Now I decided to go for the Z3 as I loved the phone itself. As it has the same insides as the oneplus I assumed it would be just as smooth. It isn't. Its a lot more laggy and that is especially the case when scrolling in various twitter and rss apps. I annoys me to the point where I read want to ditch the phone.
I have tried several factory resets and even flashed the stock firmware (old and new) via flash tool. Whatever I do it doesn't seem to help. Why is the one plus (and the nexus 9) so much smoother than my Z3 when I use them side by side. Is there something I could try to improve this? Maybe performance will improve when we finally get Lollipop? I am at a loss.
Just a thought, but under Settings > Power Management > STAMINA mode, do you have Extended usage turned on?
melogray said:
Just a thought, but under Settings > Power Management > STAMINA mode, do you have Extended usage turned on?
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I have. But I only when have stamina mode turned on when I don't use the phone for long periods. Otherwise it is turned of.
Try turning it off and reboot your device. Normally the Z3 is working buttery smooth without any lag or stuttering. When activating extended usage the phone should display a message advising you to keep the setting turned off if it causes too much performance issues. In my experience, once you turn extended usage on, it kind of remains active in the background until you actually reboot the phone, even if you turn the setting off. I also find that the performance loss coming with the extended usage setting is out of all proportion to its power saving abilities.
Tried but that has no effect. Still way less smooth scrolling through fenix timeline than scrolling through exact same timeline on my wife's one plus. Really strange. Games are comparable but scrolling in all apps is just poor.
what firmware are you using? before the latest update mine was a bit laggy, but even with extended stamina mode enabled all the time now, phone is super quick.
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what firmware are you using? before the latest update mine was a bit laggy, but even with extended stamina mode enabled all the time now, phone is super quick.
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23.0.1.A.5.77
Tried reflashing it twice with full factory reset and still no improvement. I will say it is slightly less laggy though than it was on the previous firmware. Maybe its just i am used to IOS. But what bothers me is that my wife's Oneplus is much smoother while that has the same hardware,.
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23.0.1.A.5.77
Tried reflashing it twice with full factory reset and still no improvement. I will say it is slightly less laggy though than it was on the previous firmware. Maybe its just i am used to IOS. But what bothers me is that my wife's Oneplus is much smoother while that has the same hardware,.
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what apps do you have installed? my z3 next to other peoples iphone 6's and s5 etc, seems lightning quick, again with extended stamina enabled. maybe you have a rogue app or an app running in the background killing your resources?
No looked into that. That's not the problem.
Maybe the title of the thread is misleading. I agree the Z3 is snappier than an iPhone. That's pure speed though. What I am talking about is smoothness. Particularly when scrolling. That's when the laggyness is most noticeable
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No looked into that. That's not the problem.
Maybe the title of the thread is misleading. I agree the Z3 is snappier than an iPhone. That's pure speed though. What I am talking about is smoothness. Particularly when scrolling. That's when the laggyness is most noticeable
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i never really thought about it before, but maybe because i am using apex launcher? are you able to try another launcher, do you get the same thing?
do you have any dev options enabled?
I use Nova Launcher. The launcher is fine. Its scrolling inside apps that is the main problem. And occasionally elsewhere in the os but going through homescreens is smooth
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I use Nova Launcher. The launcher is fine. Its scrolling inside apps that is the main problem. And occasionally elsewhere in the os but going through homescreens is smooth
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ok so its the apps that cause the problem then. how about the dev menu, do you have any options in there enabled? if so which ones.
Only Verify apps over USB and USB debugging.
hmm, not sure what else to suggest looking at. maybe someone else will have an idea? something is clearly not quite right though. have you tried using cpuz to see what your cpu is doing? do you get fullspeed on the cpu?
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hmm, not sure what else to suggest looking at. maybe someone else will have an idea? something is clearly not quite right though. have you tried using cpuz to see what your cpu is doing? do you get fullspeed on the cpu?
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Just checked. It seems like the CPU is working fine though there are a lot of spikes when I only have cpuz open.
I think I will probably just wait and see what lollipop has to offer in a month or so and if it doesn't improve I'll likely switch back to an iPhone. Maybe my priorities are just in the wrong place for android.
Have u tried using any other Z3's as a point of reference? The comparisons that I've seen btwn the OnePlus & the Z3 seem to state near identical performance re: ui smoothness & stutter free scrolling, etc.
I, for one, have no such issues with my Z3 although I may not be comparing the same apps with which u speak of? I'm using Nova Launcher & the lollipop theme.
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Have u tried using any other Z3's as a point of reference? The comparisons that I've seen btwn the OnePlus & the Z3 seem to state near identical performance re: ui smoothness & stutter free scrolling, etc.
I, for one, have no such issues with my Z3 although I may not be comparing the same apps with which u speak of? I'm using Nova Launcher & the lollipop theme.
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Unfortunately I have no way of comparing another Z3. All the apps that I use are not installed on the demo models in shops. I have been using my wife's oneplus now for 24 hours and the difference is immense. I would say it is almost completely lag free. A lot nicer to use. Such a disappointment for me as I really wanted to like the Sony more than I do. I now also notice that I very much dislike the glass back.
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I came from using an iPhone. The things I loved about iOS were the smoothness of the operating system (especially the animations and scrolling in apps) and the nice slection of apps that is available. Now I was up for a new phone last month and after serieusly considering the new iPhone 6 I decided to give Android another go. I really liked what google had done with android 5 and the new apps coming out were much more to my taste. I tried several phones in shops and my wife's One plus One. To my surprise the one plus was very smooth most of the time. Scrolling was finally almost without lag and it felt nice enough to use.
Now I decided to go for the Z3 as I loved the phone itself. As it has the same insides as the oneplus I assumed it would be just as smooth. It isn't. Its a lot more laggy and that is especially the case when scrolling in various twitter and rss apps. I annoys me to the point where I read want to ditch the phone.
I have tried several factory resets and even flashed the stock firmware (old and new) via flash tool. Whatever I do it doesn't seem to help. Why is the one plus (and the nexus 9) so much smoother than my Z3 when I use them side by side. Is there something I could try to improve this? Maybe performance will improve when we finally get Lollipop? I am at a loss.
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First thing
Please don't compare iOS to Android..they are both very much different platform and iOS manages memory very much efficiently and also their hardware platform is completely different from other companies.
Now About OnePlus > it uses CyanogenMod which is modded to work more efficiently than pure android or any other skinned android like SenseUI, XperiaUI or TouchWizUI.
Nexus 6 uses pure android which is way more light then other UI so you got the answer maybe why our Z3 lags...but i dont mind a little lag here and there..its quite normal its a phone after all..
My mom has the iPhone 6, I can't say its any better than my Z3 in function but the Z3 has a much much better battery life and is as smooth as the iPhone 6. Maybe you have an errant app/s, try a factory reset is nothing works. Most people who switch to Android from iPhone seem to prefer HTC Sense UI, my dad bought the M8 for that very reason. The Z3 is pretty close to stock and almost as good as Sense in my opinion and is stutter free in use.
I don't know about CM being more efficient because some review sites like GSMArena found the colors OS version of the Oppo phone to be better performing and having slightly better battery wise. CM is less cluttered compared to OEM garbage and has more useful options though.
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My mom has the iPhone 6, I can't say its any better than my Z3 in function but the Z3 has a much much better battery life and is as smooth as the iPhone 6. Maybe you have an errant app/s, try a factory reset is nothing works. Most people who switch to Android from iPhone seem to prefer HTC Sense UI, my dad bought the M8 for that very reason. The Z3 is pretty close to stock and almost as good as Sense in my opinion and is stutter free in use.
I don't know about CM being more efficient because some review sites like GSMArena found the colors OS version of the Oppo phone to be better performing and having slightly better battery wise. CM is less cluttered compared to OEM garbage and has more useful options though.
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I would want to agree on that...my friend... Completely true...
Hello.
Im thinking of swithing from an 6p to a mate 9. The reason is that, i think everybody knows that 6p has shutdown problems and they are driving me crazy. I realy enjoy sing my 6p, but the time has come.
Is here somebody who came from a 6p to a mate9? Pros and cons over the 6p?
there isnt much information about user experience comparing them two, thats why im asking it here. Is it worth it or not?
the bigger battery, "stereo kind of" speakers, large display, less bezzels, and kirin 960 vs 810 , it is allready very tempting.:good:
I ordered my brand new Mate 9 and it is going to be in my hands tomorrow evening. I will share my experiences asap.
I had the 6p for a while.
6p pros...
Better speakers, the mate 9 speakers are good but not near as good as the Nexus.
More development
Stock Android, if you prefer that
Mate 9 pros...
Better and bigger display
Better fingerprint sensor
The camera appears to be better
Very long battery life
Expandable storage
IR Blaster
I actually like EMUI, it has a lot of neat features
I think the Mate 9 looks better
Faster and smoother than the 6p
If I think of more, I'll report back.
Rooted Nexus 6p (RRemix MM rom) user to rooted Mate 9 (MHA-L29 C432B138) user. Best decision I ever made. I am on AT&T. Both my Pebble Time Steel and Samsung Gear S3 Classic work great with it. Honestly, zero hiccups. I use Nova Launcher Prime and a handful of other applications for notifications/ease. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I agree with the gentleman above. Honestly, you will love the extra battery life, the amazing camera, and smoothness. The wifi is also stronger/more consistent. The display is actually pretty damn amazing despite being 1080P LCD.
Honestly, the developers are coming...trust me. So much has happened especially thanks to @duraaraa. The Mate 9 is hands down the best phone I've ever had. I have zero regrets.
yes, the speakers, the display, and the developement for the 6p are pros.
But as it seems the Mate 9 will be a good upgrade, till that time when this years flagships will be launched.
After 6 months ill maybe give mate9 back to my provider, and upgrate to a more top notch phone. till that im almost sure i can live without flashing roms, and e.t.c, and get used to EMUI. As when i took LG G4 after Nexus 5.
and is the difference in display quality noticable as coming from qhd to full hd?
Came from 6p and had the shut down issue. You might be over exaggerating a little. Mine would randomly shut down under 10%. Wasn't a huge deal.
I've used the 6p off and on since release. Only reason I was using last couple of months because I cracked my mate 8.
Battery life is the biggest pro for me. After using the mate 8 for so long, going back to a smaller battery had me charging a few times a day versus maybe once a day. Always searching for a charger. I am a media/data hog.
Biggest pro for Nexus is the modding community.
Most important for me is tlthe mate series can take a beating and the only phone that makes me rethink the 2k display. Nothing competes with Samsung flagship displays but this is a quality 1080p panel.
Plus with T-Mobile binge on and it's 480p, I could care less besides bragging rights.
Mine 6p is shutting down even at 60%, and i can turn it on only when i find a charger. And it is hard when i havent got the charger by hand, and i need a phone. Thats why im searching for a good upgrade. I dont want an s7 edge or anything else. The only phone that felt in my eyes was mate 9. The bigger battery and performance comparision sn810 vs kirin 960.
And maybe the developement, and roms will start to appear here after time.
I got mate 9 pro after the 6p because of the shut down issues. No complaints this far
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Got the Mate 9 after my 6p went into bootloops. Huawei will replace but couldn't wait 2 weeks without a phone so bought the Mate 9. Everything mentioned above is right on. It is a great phone. I really like EMUI. The black theme makes it even better. Battery is great compared to 6p. Phones are like new girlfriends, there are things you like and dislike in the beginning. It takes time to get used to the change The battery was the #1 reason I went with the Mate 9 and not the V20. Glad I did.
Came from a 6P also and I love this phone. I do miss the Nexus development but this phone has been great so far, and I actually don't mind running emui. Would love to see AOSP on this bad boy but I can actually live with the phone as is.
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Upgraded to the Huawei Mate9 because my Huawei 6P has been wonderful! The Mate9 has newer better specs and amazing form factor! Keeping both and look forward to root, flashing, etc...
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Rooted Nexus 6p (RRemix MM rom) user to rooted Mate 9 (MHA-L29 C432B138) user. Best decision I ever made. I am on AT&T. Both my Pebble Time Steel and Samsung Gear S3 Classic work great with it. Honestly, zero hiccups. I use Nova Launcher Prime and a handful of other applications for notifications/ease. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I agree with the gentleman above. Honestly, you will love the extra battery life, the amazing camera, and smoothness. The wifi is also stronger/more consistent. The display is actually pretty damn amazing despite being 1080P LCD.
Honestly, the developers are coming...trust me. So much has happened especially thanks to @duraaraa. The Mate 9 is hands down the best phone I've ever had. I have zero regrets.
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Would you mind sharing with us what apps you use for notifications /ease apart from nova?
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I really love EMUI as many things are baked into the system. But it's not perfect. You'll find many small things missing. Third party music controls on LS for example.
I actually smashed screen on Nexus 6P and also dropped in loo.. Still works but actually got the Mate 8 and I love it some much going to sell and get Mate 9 I love Emui and solid performance of the mate 8 and with Resolution of Mate being a lot lower have not noticed one bit..
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Would you mind sharing with us what apps you use for notifications /ease apart from nova?
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Launcher: Nove Prime.
LED Notifications: Light Manager or Light Flow Legacy. I went back to Light Manager because it's just simpler/faster to customize. I use the "always on" feature to have my LEDs come on. Light Flow allows you to prioritize. It's really a matter of preference. Use the fastest setting or 1 second setting or always on feature in each app if you want it to work properly. Also, the only colors that work are Blue, Cyan, Yellow, White, Orange, Red, Pink, and Green. If you venture too far from their spectrum, no light will show up. TIP: make sure not to use any of the custom battery settings for the LED because that will mess with the notifications. Just leave the stock battery feature to monitor that LED going from Red, Yellow, Green; I found this annoying, but at least this way it works consistently. That is the biggest thing I miss about my Nexus 6P - the stronger/brighter LED that actually blinked faster rather than pulsed like the Mate 9. I can't stand pulse (you have to leave this on in the main settings for the LED to work), so I use the "Always On" settings in either of these LED apps to be able to easily see my LED notification.
File Manager: Solid Explorer (best file/root manager app period recommended by top developers on XDA).
Music: Spotify.
Weather: 1Weather (has solid widgets for time, weather, different locations and customization for appearance).
Lock widget: Nova lets you create your own custom icon for this under Actions and it works instantly. Saves battery and the waste of using a separate widget app.
Flashlight: Tiny Flashlight + LED - great widget with custom icons that works well.
Ad-free App: AdAway - you need to be rooted, but it works once you have restarted your phone, enabled it, and made sure it is in the ALLOWED apps under Ignore Optimizations in Settings.
Casting App: Bubble UPnP - hands down the best app for casting to a smart tv, dlna device/dongle, and chromecast device.
Video Player: MX Player Pro.
Tech Apps: XDA Forums and Geekbytes Pro (the best tech info app that compiles tech info from multiple places like Droid-Life, Phandroid, Android-Headlines, etc).
Wall Charger Voltage/Power Checker: Ampere.
Off the the top of my head, those are the most useful. If you have a Pebble or Samsung Gear S3 smartwatch, I know a bunch of apps that make them much more useful. PM me for that or any other questions regarding specific apps. You don't really need any battery saving/optimizing apps like Greenify or Doze because Nougat has built in Doze (the optimization, etc). You can, however, download Wakelock Detector to see what apps keep your device awake in different scenarios. That can be pretty useful at narrowing down battery hogs. All the best! :highfive:
Another former Nexus 6p-turned-Mate 9 user here.
To be fair, I really loved the design, screen, camera and the stock experience of the 6p. Have used it for 1+ years and would want to keep it longer. Unfortunately the phone becomes increasingly unreliable as the battery failed me a few times when it reaches 20%.
Changed to Mate 9 a couple of weeks ago and never looked back. Here's what stood out for me for this phone:
- dual sim, with 64GB built-in storage. Can run 2 sims comfotably in one phone without having to worry about storage
- Great battery life, even with 2 sims (Sim 1 running 4G) and with wifi and BT on as well
- Super fast charging!
- Screen is good, don't miss the higher res of 6p
- Camera is decent, comparable to 6p for normal lighting. Though i feel 6p performs better under low lighting. The monochrome shots of Mate 9 are beautiful.
- Audio quality from the earjack is very good and that is important for me as I listened to music regularly. Speakers are not as bad as what some reviews says
- Speed and memory management is good, especially considering it's not stock android. EMUI is not too intrusive either.
The only thing i would miss from 6p is the regular updates for Android. But then given how Google has been messing up the regular updates and Nougat, stability might be a good thing! And Mate 9 would have been perfect if it's water resistant/proof.
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Launcher: Nove Prime.
LED Notifications: Light Manager or Light Flow Legacy. I went back to Light Manager because it's just simpler/faster to customize. I use the "always on" feature to have my LEDs come on. Light Flow allows you to prioritize. It's really a matter of preference. Use the fastest setting or 1 second setting or always on feature in each app if you want it to work properly. Also, the only colors that work are Blue, Cyan, Yellow, White, Orange, Red, Pink, and Green. If you venture too far from their spectrum, no light will show up. TIP: make sure not to use any of the custom battery settings for the LED because that will mess with the notifications. Just leave the stock battery feature to monitor that LED going from Red, Yellow, Green; I found this annoying, but at least this way it works consistently. That is the biggest thing I miss about my Nexus 6P - the stronger/brighter LED that actually blinked faster rather than pulsed like the Mate 9. I can't stand pulse (you have to leave this on in the main settings for the LED to work), so I use the "Always On" settings in either of these LED apps to be able to easily see my LED notification.
File Manager: Solid Explorer (best file/root manager app period recommended by top developers on XDA).
Music: Spotify.
Weather: 1Weather (has solid widgets for time, weather, different locations and customization for appearance).
Lock widget: Nova lets you create your own custom icon for this under Actions and it works instantly. Saves battery and the waste of using a separate widget app.
Flashlight: Tiny Flashlight + LED - great widget with custom icons that works well.
Ad-free App: AdAway - you need to be rooted, but it works once you have restarted your phone, enabled it, and made sure it is in the ALLOWED apps under Ignore Optimizations in Settings.
Casting App: Bubble UPnP - hands down the best app for casting to a smart tv, dlna device/dongle, and chromecast device.
Video Player: MX Player Pro.
Tech Apps: XDA Forums and Geekbytes Pro (the best tech info app that compiles tech info from multiple places like Droid-Life, Phandroid, Android-Headlines, etc).
Wall Charger Voltage/Power Checker: Ampere.
Off the the top of my head, those are the most useful. If you have a Pebble or Samsung Gear S3 smartwatch, I know a bunch of apps that make them much more useful. PM me for that or any other questions regarding specific apps. You don't really need any battery saving/optimizing apps like Greenify or Doze because Nougat has built in Doze (the optimization, etc). You can, however, download Wakelock Detector to see what apps keep your device awake in different scenarios. That can be pretty useful at narrowing down battery hogs. All the best! :highfive:
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Can you please elaborate the given part please? I did not understand this part at all. "Just leave the stock battery feature to monitor that LED going from Red , Yellow , Green : I found this annoying , but at least this way it works consistently"
This one too. " Lock widget Nova lets you create your own custom icon for this under Actions and it works instantly . Saves battery and the waste of using separate widget app" Does nova has a LS widget? How to do it?
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Can you please elaborate the given part please? I did not understand this part at all. "Just leave the stock battery feature to monitor that LED going from Red , Yellow , Green : I found this annoying , but at least this way it works consistently"
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So, the stock pulse LED from system settings overrides all battery LED changes. So, it's pointless to modify the battery LED settings in Light Manager or Light Flow. The stock colors change based on battery level from RED (0-29% (I think)) to YELLOW (30-89%) to GREEN (90-100%) when plugged in for charging. So, if you attempt to modify the battery LED colors within one of these apps, it will either do nothing or mess up the other notifications.
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So, the stock pulse LED from system settings overrides all battery LED changes. So, it's pointless to modify the battery LED settings in Light Manager or Light Flow. The stock colors change based on battery level from RED (0-29% (I think)) to YELLOW (30-89%) to GREEN (90-100%). So, if you attempt to modify the battery LED colors within one of these apps, it will either do nothing or mess up the other notifications.
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Thanks for the info.
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So, the stock pulse LED from system settings overrides all battery LED changes. So, it's pointless to modify the battery LED settings in Light Manager or Light Flow. The stock colors change based on battery level from RED (0-29% (I think)) to YELLOW (30-89%) to GREEN (90-100%) when plugged in for charging. So, if you attempt to modify the battery LED colors within one of these apps, it will either do nothing or mess up the other notifications.
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In my case I am not able to use many colors consistently. Like yellow or cyan etc. When I set colours to yellow for third party apps and do the test the colour appears is always random like red or green. Any idea? App: Light flow legacy
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This one too. " Lock widget Nova lets you create your own custom icon for this under Actions and it works instantly . Saves battery and the waste of using separate widget app" Does nova has a LS widget? How to do it?
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Hold anywhere on the screen where there is space for an ICON. Then select WIDGETS. At the top you will see, Nova Action, select that. Then select Screen Lock. That's it. It will create a Screen Lock icon that locks your screen. If you hold this icon, you can EDIT. This will allow you to rename it or have no name (I have no name so it looks more like a widget icon than an app icon). The awesome part is that you can have a swipe action for it also. So, this allows you to swipe up on the icon and it can do pretty much any NOVA option you want. Mine is currently set to SHORTCUTS > Directions (to my home) using Google Maps. If you select the icon, you can change it to any icon you want.
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In my case I am not able to use many colors consistently. Like yellow or cyan etc. When I set colours to yellow for third party apps and do the test the colour appears is always random like red or green. Any idea? App: Light flow legacy
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You're very welcome.
Light Flow Legacy is tricky because some of the color options given don't align up correctly to the Color Scale that matches the Mate 9 LED spectrum, so honestly, you just have to keep testing until you find the color that works within the 12-15 colors that are listed. I prefer Light Manager for this reason because it does the exact color and you don't need to guess.
Funny enough I was originally considering a 6P. I was looking to transition from iOS and a Nexus device looked like the most logical step to take.
Then I started reading about the battery shutdown issues with Nougat beta... and along came the Mate 9 to tempt me so here I am. Brilliant device.
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HI all. To make matters short, after three years of being a huawei user I've bought my self one xiaomi mi4 lte-cu.
It came with stock 4.4.4. kitkat and MIUI 7 by xioami.eu 5.12.11 Beta.
My question is what would be the best rom for my phone (Mi 4LTE-CU 2/16 gb). I am looking for good battery life, stability (everything works like it should) and good camera quality. And if anyone can point me in the right direction what are the best instructions for backup (before upgrade), and the instructions for upgrade (necessary steps).
Now I get aprox 4h of Screen on time (with 4g and wifi enabled interchangeably), everything works most of the time ok (sometimes some games crash depending on the battery level), and the picture quality of the camera is so so.
My previous phone was Huawei P7, which by available specification should have an identical sony camera sensor. However, it produced better photo quality by order of magnitued (in my humble opinion). I wonder why is this so?
Any help would be much obliged....
What to enable or disable to make it less aggressive?
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Hi,
I have the same problem and it is f*** annoying! I have the 8GB version of the OP7pro and I don't know why the phone always closes my apps after a certain amount of time. I have disabled all (as far as I know) battery optimization features and also disabled the RAM booster.
In parallel I still run a Galaxy Note 3 with a really old custom rom, which has started to act a bit buggy now, but this phone does not overwrite MY settings and kills apps I want to keep open.
Does anyone know how to get rid of this behavior? Or is the only way to flash a custom rom again? I don't know if it is related to Oxygen OS or Android 9.
Thanks
GP
This is the problem with Chinese oems. Aggressive ram management, notification problems, not quite there cameras. Having the hardware is one thing. Software r & d is something else.
Can't remember exactly where I read it but...OnePlus is supposedly working on an update to "fix" the problem with aggressive killing of background apps as a result of all the complaints they receive concerning this issue. Something that can possibly help along with shutting off all battery/ram management is to lock your open apps to keep them open. While scrolling through your open apps you will see a three dot menu in the top right corner and one of the options is to "lock" the app which is supposed to lock it in memory/RAM. YMMV
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Can't remember exactly where I read it but...OnePlus is supposedly working on an update to "fix" the problem with aggressive killing of background apps as a result of all the complaints they receive concerning this issue. Something that can possibly help along with shutting off all battery/ram management is to lock your open apps to keep them open. While scrolling through your open apps you will see a three dot menu in the top right corner and one of the options is to "lock" the app which is supposed to lock it in memory/RAM. YMMV
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Are we sure this isn't a Pie issue? I just came from a pixel 3xl and had the same issues in the beginning. Everyone blamed the 4gb RAM as the culprit. Google eventually updated a Fix but it wasn't 100% fixed. It was better but apps still closed to early. So maybe we're looking at an Android problem. Who knows
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This is the problem with Chinese oems. Aggressive ram management, notification problems, not quite there cameras. Having the hardware is one thing. Software r & d is something else.
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This is totally crap, I switched from my Note 3, which I still like very much (but only with AOSP based custom ROM) to OP because I don't like the way Samsung and Huawei gone to. I'm not rooted right now, so I can not tell what can be done with Magisk Modules or Xposed Modules (or other mods) on a Oxygen based ROM.
Can someone tell if this behavior can be stopped with mods or is the only way to switch to an AOSP based ROM again?
I wanted to give Oxygen OS a try but right now I'm not fully convinced with the current situation, even if OP is one of the fastest supplier for updates. I don't like it, when a manufacturer tells me what I can do with a device and what not. At least OP should give me the choice how strict the RAM management is and when I want to get apps closed.
Missing notifications is one other big point. Due to the fact that there is no notification LED and no AOD (STILL) I tried several third party apps to get a AOD, but the battery drain on this apps is heavy as f*** and they often do not work correctly, because the system prevents them to run correctly.
Does anyone know a good way to get a reliable way for notifications?
Thanks.
GP
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This is totally crap, I switched from my Note 3, which I still like very much (but only with AOSP based custom ROM) to OP because I don't like the way Samsung and Huawei gone to. I'm not rooted right now, so I can not tell what can be done with Magisk Modules or Xposed Modules (or other mods) on a Oxygen based ROM.
Can someone tell if this behavior can be stopped with mods or is the only way to switch to an AOSP based ROM again?
I wanted to give Oxygen OS a try but right now I'm not fully convinced with the current situation, even if OP is one of the fastest supplier for updates. I don't like it, when a manufacturer tells me what I can do with a device and what not. At least OP should give me the choice how strict the RAM management is and when I want to get apps closed.
Missing notifications is one other big point. Due to the fact that there is no notification LED and no AOD (STILL) I tried several third party apps to get a AOD, but the battery drain on this apps is heavy as f*** and they often do not work correctly, because the system prevents them to run correctly.
Does anyone know a good way to get a reliable way for notifications?
Thanks.
GP
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Not only that. 3rd party apps like notification buddy work but Google Assistant stops working once you install it. I don't know what GA has to do with notification lighting. It's supposed to be a phone first and foremost. OnePlus seems to have forgotten what it is they're making. Something as basic as missed notifications seems not terribly important to them.
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Not only that. 3rd party apps like notification buddy work but Google Assistant stops working once you install it. I don't know what GA has to do with notification lighting. It's supposed to be a phone first and foremost. OnePlus seems to have forgotten what it is they're making. Something as basic as missed notifications seems not terribly important to them.
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I agree. Samsung and Huawei show that AOD can work without heavy battery drain, so why can't OP get this to work or can they but don't want it?
I will root the device and have a look what I can optimize.
What I cannot change (unfortunately I had no chance to hands on the device before I bought it) is the size and the weight. It is to big and way to heavy. Not only while taking a phone call, even if you just hold it in one hand and do some stuff, it gets heavy within a very short time.
Maybe this OP was my first and last one - I will see. But it seems that all devices get bigger and heavier with every iteration, which is totally insane.
smallsmx301 said:
Are we sure this isn't a Pie issue? I just came from a pixel 3xl and had the same issues in the beginning. Everyone blamed the 4gb RAM as the culprit. Google eventually updated a Fix but it wasn't 100% fixed. It was better but apps still closed to early. So maybe we're looking at an Android problem. Who knows
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It's definitely a pie thing as Android 10 had much better ram management even on pixel 2xl with 4gb ram. I suspect it will resolve most of our problems.
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I agree. Samsung and Huawei show that AOD can work without heavy battery drain, so why can't OP get this to work or can they but don't want it?
I will root the device and have a look what I can optimize.
What I cannot change (unfortunately I had no chance to hands on the device before I bought it) is the size and the weight. It is to big and way to heavy. Not only while taking a phone call, even if you just hold it in one hand and do some stuff, it gets heavy within a very short time.
Maybe this OP was my first and last one - I will see. But it seems that all devices get bigger and heavier with every iteration, which is totally insane.
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I have a problem with the weight as well, like my previous note 9. I got the s10+ after that, before being enticed by all the YouTube reviews of the 7pro at launch. I'm beginning to regret that decision. Dual speakers are no where near the s10+ and neither is video stabilisation. I'm on the beta 2 now, rooted and the experience is beginning to improve. Sure there are pros like the fast charging, display and the quick implementation of android 10. I can't justify the note 10 and all the year end releases with SD 865 round the corner so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.
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I have a problem with the weight as well, like my previous note 9. I got the s10+ after that, before being enticed by all the YouTube reviews of the 7pro at launch. I'm beginning to regret that decision. Dual speakers are no where near the s10+ and neither is video stabilisation. I'm on the beta 2 now, rooted and the experience is beginning to improve. Sure there are pros like the fast charging, display and the quick implementation of android 10. I can't justify the note 10 and all the year end releases with SD 865 round the corner so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.
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You're on Beta software...what do you expect? I'm on stable and all is working fine. I'm on T-Mobile but using an unlocked 7 Pro purchased from OnePlus directly.
jaseman said:
You're on Beta software...what do you expect? I'm on stable and all is working fine. I'm on T-Mobile but using an unlocked 7 Pro purchased from OnePlus directly.
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Did you actually read what I wrote? The experience has improved on android 10.
i had the s10+ and i couldnt deal with the half bakes software. so oneplus was the natural choice for me.
sure the speakers arent the best but theyre plenty fine - its not like we use our speakers for hidef sound, wireless headphones or a jukebox can take care of the rest (i have these strategically placed around the house so its never an issue when i play music)
failing AOD, dt2w is just as good imo.
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I have a problem with the weight as well, like my previous note 9. I got the s10+ after that, before being enticed by all the YouTube reviews of the 7pro at launch. I'm beginning to regret that decision. Dual speakers are no where near the s10+ and neither is video stabilisation. I'm on the beta 2 now, rooted and the experience is beginning to improve. Sure there are pros like the fast charging, display and the quick implementation of android 10. I can't justify the note 10 and all the year end releases with SD 865 round the corner so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.
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i had the s10+ and i couldnt deal with the half bakes software. so oneplus was the natural choice for me.
sure the speakers arent the best but theyre plenty fine - its not like we use our speakers for hidef sound, wireless headphones or a jukebox can take care of the rest (i have these strategically placed around the house so its never an issue when i play music)
failing AOD, dt2w is just as good imo.
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If you use Magisk, make sure to flash Ainur Sauron. That's an absolute game-changer for audio quality. I can't say the audio will quite compare to the Note 9 (I own it), but it should be fairly comparable to the S10+ (Have two in the family). The Note 9 has the advantage of actual front-facing speakers since it has bezel.
If you want to use Viper or JamesDSP, you'll need to also flash AML in Magisk which allows for multiple audio mods to be integrated. If you want a simple flash and away w/o further customization, then just flash Ainur Sauron.
Thank you. Good recommendation
So much stuff OnePlus broke for no reason at all.
(This 1st point is for all OnePlus devices on Android 10)
1. The screen calibration from Android 9 was perfect! OnePlus broke it in literally every OnePlus device and made it hella uncomfortable to my eyes just to use the same damn phone. Vivid and all are dull and Amoled Wide Gamut is too damn harsh.
(I gave so many feedbacks but thanks to OnePlus's arrogant behaviour towards its customers and not fixing it)
2. GCams which made me love my OnePlus 6 are not working properly.
SuperResZoom is broken.
Gcam, only one version works now and can't use the cloned GCams which worked flawlessly on OOS 9.0.9, now just stops the HDR+ processing at 75% and other versions don't work on OxygenOS 10 but works fine on Android 10 custom roms.
(broke it for no reason at all!)
3. Auto Brightness takes painfully 10seconds+ just to adjust. (broke it for no reason)
4. 2.4ghz Wifi Link speed is still capped to 65mbps- 72mbps. After rooting and flashing a Magisk module namely "WIFI BONDING" the link speed goes upto 300mbps.
This issue I've only faced in my OnePlus 6 and my other phones like Redmi K20 Pro, Poco F1, Samsung Galaxy Note 9 all have 150mbps-300mbps by default.
(Again gave so much feedback yet no response from OnePlus)
5. Front camera now doesn't allow to zoom at all. (broke it for no reason) (not a big one tho)
6. Also Much worse battery life and slower charging times.
OOS 9 - 0-100% takes 72-75minutes.
OOS 10 - 0-100% takes 90-95minutes
Battery life - approx 12% per hour on OOS 9
Battery life - approx 18-20% per hour on OOS 10
Other than that OnePlus 7T does not have their own OxygenOS Special Navigation Gestures. Like what? Why? The little things that made me a loyal buyer and fan of OnePlus, they are just removing that for no reason?
I made my friend buy a OnePlus 7 Pro even tho I knew the prices would fall like crazy but I still asked him to get it at 53k because I trusted OnePlus and I was a genuine fan of their work and I loved their software, the lovely OxygenOS and the OnePlus brand which listened to their consumer's problems and then gives fixes.
But now I'm done.
Guess I'll stick to Android 9 on this OnePlus 6 and will get a S11 or anything else but OnePlus.
OnePlus is losing all their loyal fans by this stupiduty just like they lost me. I did recommend earlier but now definitely a big NO.
Let's see if they fix these or not. If they dont then surely a goodbye to them.
shubham7171 said:
So much stuff OnePlus broke for no reason at all.
(This 1st point is for all OnePlus devices on Android 10)
1. The screen calibration from Android 9 was perfect! OnePlus broke it in literally every OnePlus device and made it hella uncomfortable to my eyes just to use the same damn phone. Vivid and all are dull and Amoled Wide Gamut is too damn harsh.
(I gave so many feedbacks but thanks to OnePlus's arrogant behaviour towards its customers and not fixing it)
2. GCams which made me love my OnePlus 6 are not working properly.
SuperResZoom is broken.
Gcam, only one version works now and can't use the cloned GCams which worked flawlessly on OOS 9.0.9, now just stops the HDR+ processing at 75% and other versions don't work on OxygenOS 10 but works fine on Android 10 custom roms.
(broke it for no reason at all!)
3. Auto Brightness takes painfully 10seconds+ just to adjust. (broke it for no reason)
4. 2.4ghz Wifi Link speed is still capped to 65mbps- 72mbps. After rooting and flashing a Magisk module namely "WIFI BONDING" the link speed goes upto 300mbps.
This issue I've only faced in my OnePlus 6 and my other phones like Redmi K20 Pro, Poco F1, Samsung Galaxy Note 9 all have 150mbps-300mbps by default.
(Again gave so much feedback yet no response from OnePlus)
5. Front camera now doesn't allow to zoom at all. (broke it for no reason) (not a big one tho)
6. Also Much worse battery life and slower charging times.
OOS 9 - 0-100% takes 72-75minutes.
OOS 10 - 0-100% takes 90-95minutes
Battery life - approx 12% per hour on OOS 9
Battery life - approx 18-20% per hour on OOS 10
Other than that OnePlus 7T does not have their own OxygenOS Special Navigation Gestures. Like what? Why? The little things that made me a loyal buyer and fan of OnePlus, they are just removing that for no reason?
I made my friend buy a OnePlus 7 Pro even tho I knew the prices would fall like crazy but I still asked him to get it at 53k because I trusted OnePlus and I was a genuine fan of their work and I loved their software, the lovely OxygenOS and the OnePlus brand which listened to their consumer's problems and then gives fixes.
But now I'm done.
Guess I'll stick to Android 9 on this OnePlus 6 and will get a S11 or anything else but OnePlus.
OnePlus is losing all their loyal fans by this stupiduty just like they lost me. I did recommend earlier but now definitely a big NO.
Let's see if they fix these or not. If they dont then surely a goodbye to them.
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Every single point is very very true!
Anyone having problem with screen cast. I think this one broken too. Cant connect to my LG TV using screen cast from QS and setting. But Youtube cast button works with no issue. Works perfectly before in android 9.
More reasons why i will stay on 9.0.9.....it just works!
They've already lost my trust, I've been with OnePlus since the op3, op6 now and this is my last one. I'm going with Xiaomi
This is why I am staying on 9.0.9 and have not attempted to once even try and upgrade to 10. I have 10 on my Pixel 2 XL, works FLAWLESSLY. OP has really dropped the ball here and if they continue on this path, I'll be looking for another phone in about a year when I want to upgrade that is made by someone else.
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Anyone having problem with screen cast. I think this one broken too. Cant connect to my LG TV using screen cast from QS and setting. But Youtube cast button works with no issue. Works perfectly before in android 9.
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Agreed! That problem is faced by me too! It isn't phone specific they messed up man.....
Screencast is woking fine on my end with samsung tv and QC. I am on beta 32.
Why my Gboard keyboard raised up for at least one key height?! Is that a bug?
Took me sometimes to fix the clipboard back thx Android Q...
iskorotul said:
Anyone having problem with screen cast. I think this one broken too. Cant connect to my LG TV using screen cast from QS and setting. But Youtube cast button works with no issue. Works perfectly before in android 9.
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The only issue I have, that I know is, Google Photos app. It casts but stays at the splash screen. multiple chromecasts and built-in chromecast Toshiba TV.
Screen casts no issues here.
OB1-3 and stable 10.3.0
can I somehow disable the notification that a system update is available? I don't want to upgrade after reading this but the notification sticks and cannot be swiped away.
tox1 said:
Why my Gboard keyboard raised up for at least one key height?! Is that a bug?
Took me sometimes to fix the clipboard back thx Android Q...
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No. That is indeed intended because google is featuring it's on gesture control by now and wants users to not trigger gestures while using the keyboard.
There is a rudimentary fix, you can google for it. But it involves messing around with adb to change the dpi or some kind of thing like that.
Ironic said:
No. That is indeed intended because google is featuring it's on gesture control by now and wants users to not trigger gestures while using the keyboard.
There is a rudimentary fix, you can google for it. But it involves messing around with adb to change the dpi or some kind of thing like that.
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Thx for the answer dude! Poss takes sometime to adapt it.
How about the left screen (widget page) that only the upper screen touch work sometimes? It is fix by rebooting the phone but can't do it everytime right?!
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can I somehow disable the notification that a system update is available? I don't want to upgrade after reading this but the notification sticks and cannot be swiped away.
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you can freeze that system app using titanium backup or similar. I do not recommend uninstalling it fully though.
I have termporary slow downs. It seems like there is a memory leak, either in android 10 or oxygen 10.3.0.
Anyone else has the same?
1. Wide Gamut - cool - looks good.
2. Arnova Gcam beta works perfectly.
3. Takes around 5 sec for me.
4. Agree
5. Shouldn't use digital zoom in the first place.
6. Never tested\cared.
7. Battery life does seem a bit worse, flashing custom kernel made it better.
My girlfriends S9+ is still on android 9, has issues with dark netflix videos, freezing in general occasionally, whatsapp broke once completely and had to reinstall a few times to make it work, took them over a year to fix the camera light glare, no working gcam.
Gcam looks same and sometimes better than S9+.
Non-English character are not displaying properly.
Basically Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Tamil and etc are not displaying properly. Anyone got a fix?
i hate oos 10 really , thank god i downgraded to 9
mamoo said:
i hate oos 10 really , thank god i downgraded to 9
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Which method did you use? I don't care about losing data. Just want to keep unlocked bootloader and root the easy way, via TWRP if possible. I basked up my 9.0.9 system before going to 10.3.
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vkass said:
1. Wide Gamut - cool - looks good.
2. Arnova Gcam beta works perfectly.
3. Takes around 5 sec for me.
4. Agree
5. Shouldn't use digital zoom in the first place.
6. Never tested\cared.
7. Battery life does seem a bit worse, flashing custom kernel made it better.
My girlfriends S9+ is still on android 9, has issues with dark netflix videos, freezing in general occasionally, whatsapp broke once completely and had to reinstall a few times to make it work, took them over a year to fix the camera light glare, no working gcam.
Gcam looks same and sometimes better than S9+.
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1. Try out Wide Gamut and have a look at Reds. They burn your eyes, too damn saturated.
2. 1 Gcam works fine but if I want to access the Aux camera or MJL and Xtreme's both we can't.
3. Used to be 2secs in OOS9
5. Still having a option and then removing makes no sense.
7. There shouldn't be a need to flash a custom kernel when it was pretty damn goood on stock one.