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o2 xda Orbit II.....AAC Files

Please could someone help or explain.I purchased the orbit II last week,I am still getting used to its power and capabilities.
In the manual it says it can play AAC files.I have downloaded some onto the storage card and the touch flo player hasnt recognised them, nor has the windows media player.
It recognises and plays MP3 files.The aac files are not protected they are ones that I downloaded myself from my own cds.
Also why can I not see photos that I have just taken that are saved to my storage card,in the photo viewer on Touch flo.
Thank you in advance for any help,
Peter

pocketmusic can play aac

Thansk for that,but I was looking to find out what the situation was with the phone rather than get a programme that will do something that the manufacturers are saying the phone should do.
I have noticed that the windows media player does add the tunes to its catalogue but files them under ARTIST "UNKNOWN" (as though the tags arent working).The touch flo or HTC player however doesnt even do this.
Does anybody know of a solution to this other than spending money on a progamme to do something that the phone should do already,
many thanks
Peter15965

It's really wierd. I have the same problem and also had this problem with my previous phone which was an O2 XDA Orbit 1 (i.e. rebranded HTC Artemis).
I'm afraid that I never found a solution that didn't involve third party software. I think the problem is that, although HTC have included the decoder to play AAC and AAC+ files, neither of the built in players seem to be able to read the tags from the m4a container format so, although they can play the contents, they can't incorporate the tracks in a meaningful way into the library (I also saw Windows Media Player putting everything as unknown).
I know it's not what you were hoping to hear, and I'd love for someone to prove me wrong, but right now I think you're stuck with going the third-party route.
If you don't want to spend money then I initially used TCPMP. It doesn't have any library browser built in but I found that by intelligent choice of the directory tree structure I used to store my files (My Music/<Artist>/<Album>/<Tracks>) then I could use the file browser in TCPMP to browse my collection in a fairly convenient manner. I now use Conduits PocketPlayer because that has a fantastic library browser and reads the m4a tags perfectly; the program is pretty resource hungry but for now I'm keeping the faith in the hope that they'll address that at some point in the future (their support is good).
- Julian

Thanks Julian at least I know its a common problem(does 2 handsets constitute common).
I will look into pocketplayer as a solution for the timebeing.I was hoping I wouldnt have to put other apps on that would slow the phone down.
Thanks again
Peter15965

peter15965 said:
Thanks Julian at least I know its a common problem(does 2 handsets constitute common).
I will look into pocketplayer as a solution for the timebeing.I was hoping I wouldnt have to put other apps on that would slow the phone down.
Thanks again
Peter15965
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You're welcome.
In most cases putting other apps on shouldn't slow down the phone. The reason apps can slow down the phone (and/or drain battery) can be because they have a Today plugin which, if not well written or if it needs to keep accessing the network, can slow things down. If an app does have a Today plugin (as PocketPlayer does) then you can often disable it (as you can for PocketPlayer).
The other reason for third party apps to slow down the phone is because Windows Mobile default behaviour when you click the top-right "x" button is to minimise the app (i.e. leave it running in the background) rather than close it down completely. Again, in this case an app that does anything significant when it is running in the background can slow down the phone. Clearly a music player needs to keep running while it is playing music but, once finished, you can make sure it is out of memory completely by selecting Exit from the application's menu.
In short, if you're careful to fully close apps when you don't need them, then you shouldn't slow down your phone at all (except so far as having a music player running in the background, whether built in or third party, will always put a drain on the CPU and make other apps run more slowly while the music is playing).
- Julian

Oops. One big thing I forgot to mention. If you do look at PocketPlayer then don't download the latest version (3.51) from their web site. There is a nasty problem in that build specifically related to playing AAC files on HTC devices that I reported to them and has been fixed in an internal beta for 3.52 which, as the reporter of the bug, I have been given to test. You should email [email protected] and say that you want to use it for AAC on an HTC device and hopefully they (Carrie) will let you try out a beta build with the issue fixed.
The issue by the way is that 3.51 doesn't correctly detect end-of-stream when an AAC track has finished so (a) it doesn't auto-advance to the next track in the playlist because it thinks the current track hasn't finished yet and (b) even worse, if you forget to explicitly turn off your device after you've finished listening then PocketPlayer thinks it is still playing your last track and so the device will not put itself into standby and can drain the battery. The issue is fixed in the latest beta build and as an added bonus it also parses m4a tags natively (in 3.51 you could tag your collection by using an option in PocketPlayer to infer the tags from the filenames used in your folder structure but it now reads the real tags in the latest beta).
There is also one other more obscure problem I'm trying to help them diagnose related to AAC on HTC devices but I've been a bit busy recently so am due to give them some feedback and check status on that today or tomorrow. This may or may not be fixed at this stage, I can probably give more feedback in a couple of days so personally I would hold off until I give you an update. If you definitely want to go ahead with a beta build then I can give you a workaround that works most of the time.
- Julian

Thanks again Julian, a fantastic answer by all accounts.I will hold off until you get an answer back about the problems you mention.
Thanks again for a most comprehensive answer.How will we know when the fix is through?
Peter15965

peter15965 said:
Thanks again Julian, a fantastic answer by all accounts.I will hold off until you get an answer back about the problems you mention.
Thanks again for a most comprehensive answer.How will we know when the fix is through?
Peter15965
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I emailed them this afternoon and got the answer. They've fixed the problem and I'm about to install a new beta to check it's OK. Apparently it was a Windows Mobile bug that they've managed to work around. I'll play with this new update pretty extensively tomorrow so you should get an answer from me in about 24 hours.
- Julian

peter15965 said:
I have downloaded some onto the storage card and the touch flo player hasnt recognised them, nor has the windows media player.
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I found out some interesting thing: Some files are playing correctly but others refuse to work. I think that has to do with the bitrate of the files. All my m4a-files are bought from Apple Music Store. Most times my files are the unprotected ones with higher bitrate, but I have a few files which were protected (unfortunately I must have lost the copy protection somewhere, I'm really sorry for that ). The protected ones were encoded in a lower bitrate. What I found out is, that all my former protected files are played correctly. So maybe Windows Media Player can only handle files up to certain bitrate which obviously should be lower than 256kbps.
Further test: I created a playlist within windows mobile, but the Audio Manager (Touch Flo) wasn't able to read it. I managed that the playlist was recognized by the program, but it couldn't find any files.
So it is possible to play aac files (up to a certain bitrate) and to create playlists in Windows Media Player without any issues (yet). But I couldn't get it working in TouchFlo.
So, ok, I made half the way. Now it's up to you to make it fully functional.

have the same issue, I see the AAC file in the explorer and can play them from there but they are not loaded in the catalogue. anybody any other idea how to make the visible there? is buying pocket player the only solution?
thanks for the help in advance to everybody

JulianL said:
I emailed them this afternoon and got the answer. They've fixed the problem and I'm about to install a new beta to check it's OK. Apparently it was a Windows Mobile bug that they've managed to work around. I'll play with this new update pretty extensively tomorrow so you should get an answer from me in about 24 hours.
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The news isn't as positive as I'd hoped. The latest build has improved the problem (so at least they've identified it and found the right area to make changes) but it hasn't fixed it completely.
The player is still usable with AAC files but there is one glitch. After it's been playing for a while, say about 2 hours, then something seems to get corrupted in the image or via a bug in Windows Mobile itself such that thumbnails of the artwork for the album covers no longer display properly when browsing your music library. With the previous build the device would lock up at this point and require a soft reset so at least they've fixed that problem but there is still some sort of issue unresolved.
The workaround seems to be to just fully exit PocketPlayer every couple of hours and then re-launch it again so it's not too arduous and shouldn't prevent you playing with the trial version (although this partially-fixed beta isn't publicly available so you will need to contact support to see if they'll give it to you and given that it still has a known issue they might just ask you to wait a bit).
I'm obviously still working with them to try and 100% nail this issue.
- Julian

Skifta - Honeycomb DLNA

Even before today's update 'Skifta' has always been my favorite DLNA software. Today's update improved the honeycomb supoort and added landscape-mode.
It is far superior to the bundled 'MyNet' software as it discovers more servers, is faster and more stable. To put it in simple words, it just works!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skifta.android.app&feature=search_result

I also use that DLNA Tool-grat app!! Now,with landscape support it looks nice too
MKV Files doesn`t works for me

leonore said:
I also use that DLNA Tool-grat app!! Now,with landscape support it looks nice too
MKV Files doesn`t works for me
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Great feedback - thanks for the comments - glad you're enjoying the product!
For MKV (or other non-handset native formats), you probably want to install one of the third party players (I like VPlayer, but I know RockPlayer/MoboPlayer also feature on the list of likes by the team here). If Skifta detects other players available, it'll give you the option to use them for video playback.
Let us know if this works better for you (either here or over at our forums - forums.skifta.com).
Allan (of the Skifta team),

Updated and still cannot see any video, just music. Have Skifta on Dell streak without any problem. Mobo, rockplayer and arcmedia installed.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Well I'd uninstall and delete all data, cache etc of all of these apps (skifta, mediaplayers) and then install skifta and moboplayer only. These two work perfectly together for me (asus eee tf).

fabsn said:
It is far superior to the bundled 'MyNet' software as it discovers more servers, is faster and more stable. To put it in simple words, it just works!
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OMG, do you work for Skifta?
Well I gave it a try. Here it goes:
"Updating skifta" - no no no no. First launch did quite some download, but each time one starts Skifta an update check? And what happens when temporarily one has the INet down? Or some other connectivity problem? Well it did happen to me today; INet was up but the "updating skifta" was there just idle ... a good few minutes. No go exiting and relaunching Skifta ... always the update check. So in such cases the program is unusable at all.
Chose media source - "No media sources found". We wait and wait and wait... Aha! Found one server. But not the local MyNet which is always running. Oh, MyNet server appeared. And finally Skifta's own server. We need improvement with discovery. MyNet, ArkMC and UPnP are almost instantaneous.
On to video playback. We browse and select and ... have to select 3rd party player. No renderer function (at least for video). Sigh.
Images - buffering .... buffering .... buffering and image (turns out it's taking some time loading the icons images). But why is it so small??? Seems like 640x480 (sometimes 800x600) but _never_ fills the width or height. And it's not the server downscaling the images, try with the preinstalled on the TF101 local images like Boat, Bus, Cat. That's with jpegs, with gifs it does fit w or h. Lets zoom!!! Nope, no zoom A simple tif - black. Let's try a bitmap - black screen again. No message that unsupported, just black.
Audio. No ogg/vorbis support with builtin renderer. A very quick "unsupported" popup and automatically the next song is selected. Wav? Good they work. Seeking - nice, fluid. But ... with mp3 seeking is horrible, better if it was muted.
Overall it is very good that competition products appear. Skifter is still beta so much room for improvement. For the moment I'll stick with MyNet,
"to put it in simple words, it just works!"
Allan, after we users weed out the bugs, will the first non-beta be still ... free?

That's quite interesting. MyNet never worked for me but Skifta did out of the box. That's why I posted this thread, even though I don't get paid for it
Eventually everybody's gotta figure out what app is best for his hardware and software config, as it seems like right now there's no dlna app that works for everybody. Actually I haven't heard any bad reports about upnplay, but its UI is driving me nuts. Its all a compromise

Strange that MyNet didn't work for you. The more we get to chose from the merrier I do hope they will continue improving Skifta and keep the "low" (read: free) price tag.

Diodato - couple of points to make in terms of the issues you raise specifically..
On the update issues that you mention - Skifta checks for new fixes/functionality on each boot and dynamically introduces them if available. Primarily this is used for bug fies against specific devices/device classes. If there aren't any updates found, this should be pretty quick. Since version 0.72 the client has had the 'offline' mode built into it. Provided you've connected at least once before with an internet connection, it will startup without doing the check.
There was also a bug that meant that the app would sometimes hang on the 'updating' screen regardless of connection state - we think we've 95% fixed this, but there are still certain circumstances where it will happen - these occurrences are more likely around skifta app upgrades from the market if it's already running). There will be further bug fixes in this area as we narrow the causes down more.
In terms of the playback capabilities of Skifta - the app currently uses the native player (over which we have no control of codec support) or a third party player (in the case of video, if there are one - or many - installed). I know it's frustrating when your favourite codec X isn't in there (for us too), hence the introduction of the third party player option - there is a fairly large amount of choice here (vplayer being my current favourite and moboplayer getting a lot of good comments from our users).
Device discovery happens according to DLNA spec, but that sometimes means that you'll miss a broadcast and wait for the next retry. For the majority of devices, they'll respond to our first query and be instantly available - others won't and the app will discover them as they broadcast themselves.
We at Skifta very much appreciate all feedback, good or bad and as you probably noticed, try to respond with code drops, fixes, advice, etc fairly promptly - it is vital for the product as far as we're concerned to keep that feedback loop active.
We're also constantly working on new features, stability improvements, device compatibility enhancements and behind the scenes features that should mean that the service keeps moving for you guys. It would definitely be worth you checking out the latest market upgrade (0.74) that addresses some of the items I've touched on above.
We're working on some particularly exciting features right now that I'll be able to talk to you about soon!
Allan.

UpnPlay is a good dlna client also. Mynet didn't want to list my files for some reason.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App

atimms said:
On the update issues that you mention - Skifta checks for new fixes/functionality on each boot and dynamically introduces them if available.
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Well it's a personal thing. _I_ want to be in control when an application connects for updates. The Android Market will notify me anyway if there is an update available for Skifta, right?
atimms said:
There was also a bug that meant that the app would sometimes hang on the 'updating' screen regardless of connection state...
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That's good to know that it was fixed.
atimms said:
In terms of the playback capabilities of Skifta - the app currently uses the native player (over which we have no control of codec support) or a third party player (in the case of video, if there are one - or many - installed). I know it's frustrating when your favourite codec X isn't in there (for us too)...
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No, I am not looking for a universal player. The native Android will do for me. But I didn't know that Skifta is delegating _all_ video rendering to an external player. Would be nice if Skifta supported also the video playback through the native renderer. Perhaps future releases.
For the moment you can try to fix playback of OGG (natively supported by the Android player) and images (full screen with zoom possibility)
atimms said:
Device discovery happens according to DLNA spec...
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No doubt since you're DLNA certified.
atimms said:
We're also constantly working on new features, stability improvements, device compatibility enhancements and behind the scenes features that should mean that the service keeps moving for you guys. It would definitely be worth you checking out the latest market upgrade (0.74) that addresses some of the items I've touched on above.
We're working on some particularly exciting features right now that I'll be able to talk to you about soon!
Allan.
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Will keep an eye on Skifta.

Also, you can watch live tv
I have orb installed on my media center computer, I'm using skifta and moboplayer and now I can watch live tv on my TF. This is wonderful.

More aggressive network buffering, please.

I enjoy watching videos that are hosted on my PC though Windows File Staring. MX Player plays them fine but does not buffer enough video to prevent hiccups in playback. This is especially true with very complex scenes in 1080p. Copying the same video to my device will play uninterrupted, leading me to believe this is an inadequate buffering issue. Pressing pause will not pre-buffer any large amount of video as the user might expect.
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 P600

a-raccoon said:
I enjoy watching videos that are hosted on my PC though Windows File Staring. MX Player plays them fine but does not buffer enough video to prevent hiccups in playback. This is especially true with very complex scenes in 1080p. Copying the same video to my device will play uninterrupted, leading me to believe this is an inadequate buffering issue. Pressing pause will not pre-buffer any large amount of video as the user might expect.
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 P600
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It's a well known issue. Since it's already listed in priority list hopefully the developer will improve it in next major version mx player v2.0

ktsamy said:
It's a well known issue. Since it's already listed in priority list hopefully the developer will improve it in next major version mx player v2.0
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Version 2.0 huh. I was hoping this would be something that finds its way into [perhaps] the next minor update. Change some integer value from 50 to 300 and call it good.

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Hello, Do not know if this is the thread for my question or not!? I want to know one thing; when reproduced before a live network link, entering places where (playing from network) and the link was there. Now not find it. And is there the last link I've attached. Me question is: I need to change something in the settings to locate? Or should I do?
Thank you friends for your attention.
Regards

mrsdan1940 said:
Hello, Do not know if this is the thread for my question or not!? I want to know one thing; when reproduced before a live network link, entering places where (playing from network) and the link was there. Now not find it. And is there the last link I've attached. Me question is: I need to change something in the settings to locate? Or should I do?
Thank you friends for your attention.
Regards
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Hello mrsdan1940: I don't understand your question. So let me gather some information to see if I can help you. Is your primary language English? Are you using the program MX Player for Android? It's a video audio media player for your mobile or tablet device.

Is MX Player subject to today's new subtitle parsing vulnerability?

http://blog.checkpoint.com/2017/05/23/hacked-in-translation/
Seeing as how VLC, Kodi and Popcorn Time are vulnerable I figured that they are probably using the same libraries and there was a fair chance that MX Player is similarly affected. Please let us know and if so the expected timeline for a fix.

jpizz said:
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2017/05/23/hacked-in-translation/
Seeing as how VLC, Kodi and Popcorn Time are vulnerable I figured that they are probably using the same libraries and there was a fair chance that MX Player is similarly affected. Please let us know and if so the expected timeline for a fix.
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MX Player is not vulnerable to this issue

Video Players | Security breach report
Hi guys,
I don't want to alarm anyone and I'm new on this forum.
I'm not a developer of any kind but I've recently came across an article that's affecting many of the video players used in android.
Is MX player at risk and are there any measures taken to address this situation?
Thanks in advance for your assistance

Give the details of the report.
I am assuming that you're talking about the one with able to remote access victim's computer with specially prepared movie subtitles? Is that the one?

SHADOW-XIII said:
Give the details of the report.
I am assuming that you're talking about the one with able to remote access victim's computer with specially prepared movie subtitles? Is that the one?
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply since it's my first thread ,I cannot quote any external sources to provide more information.
The one that you're describing is exactly the one.
Thank you

Unfortunately, it was not disclosed publicly hot to exploit the issue is but I don't believe there was any indication of an Android app being affected (it requires VNC server so presumably not).
MX Player developers will need to address this one, I imagine once there are more details

My bad, actually it's already covered in https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/mx-player/mx-player-subject-to-todays-subtitle-t3611258/ - MX Player is safe

Thanks for the ref post that confirm the issue covered
Regards

Threads merged

Need cast function when using miracast(smart screen)

Like some other player, MX player needs 'cast' function when using miracast.
Turn off the phone screen greatly increase the performance, so it is absolutely necessary when it comes to play high bitrate files, with software decoder.
Some phones can't play well when they are in miracast duplicate mode, even if the file played well before. This problem can be solved by 'Cast only', not duplicate.

iuahciuhdsicu said:
Like some other player, MX player needs 'cast' function when using miracast.
Turn off the phone screen greatly increase the performance, so it is absolutely necessary when it comes to play high bitrate files, with software decoder.
Some phones can't play well when they are in miracast duplicate mode, even if the file played well before. This problem can be solved by 'Cast only', not duplicate.
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Thanks for your valuable suggestions. We give prime importance to your needs and will pass your feedback to our product management team on behalf of you. Based on the feasibility and customer requests, our product management team will take a call to add it in our future roadmap. Meanwhile, your patience is highly appreciated.