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Hi guys,
Here in Eastern Europe (and according to the recent AP article on eBay as well) dual-sim 955FD is cheaper than single-sim 955F.
Could someone explain why is it so? What problems may I have with custom ROMs and other flashables for 955FD? Some member explained here that CSCs are universal. Does it mean that main ROM part (not radio) is universal too and dual/single can be switched via some flag or so? In my opinion, dual-sim is more complicated technically (considering even extra cubic millimeters for the second sim, the hardware should be slightly 'compressed' comparing to 955F , not mentioning software complications ) .
The bottom line is... where is the catch (for modifications lover) ? Would/did you buy FD instead of F ?
Thanks
I bought the FD instead of the F as it was MUCH cheaper.
The box is either Korean or Chinese, I can't tell, but the device is exactly the same as a single sim variant. Both support microSD cards too
p0izn said:
Hi guys,
Here in Eastern Europe (and according to the recent AP article on eBay as well) dual-sim 955FD is cheaper than single-sim 955F.
Could someone explain why is it so? What problems may I have with custom ROMs and other flashables for 955FD? Some member explained here that CSCs are universal. Does it mean that main ROM part (not radio) is universal too and dual/single can be switched via some flag or so? In my opinion, dual-sim is more complicated technically (considering even extra cubic millimeters for the second sim, the hardware should be slightly 'compressed' comparing to 955F , not mentioning software complications ) .
The bottom line is... where is the catch (for modifications lover) ? Would/did you buy FD instead of F ?
Thanks
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If i have to guess most double SIM models are from Korea and else where in Asia because officially they dont get sold in Europe and "america" . To make one function in europe you have to open the package enter a sim from the home country and use it for 5min. So you buy a open box from a unknown seller. This might push the price down. This is pure guessing.
@From0toHero, I wouldn't agree on necessity of homecountry sim - there is a lot of offers on eBay of factory-sealed, country-unlocked 955FDs (no mentions about specific activation flow, should work OOTB).
But after some investigation I would agree that low price tag comes from gray import and blurry warranty scheme (declared as "US return address, foreign manufacturer warranty" ).
Though I've never bought officially imported and certified devices because in my country it automatically means cosmic price =)
As for ROMs compatibility , currently all ROMs are stock-based and F/FD compatible, but I'm interested in possible AOSP developments.
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@From0toHero, I wouldn't agree on necessity of homecountry sim - there is a lot of offers on eBay of factory-sealed, country-unlocked 955FDs (no mentions about specific activation flow, should work OOTB).
But after some investigation I would agree that low price tag comes from gray import and blurry warranty scheme (declared as "US return address, foreign manufacturer warranty" ).
Though I've never bought officially imported and certified devices because in my country it automatically means cosmic price =)
As for ROMs compatibility , currently all ROMs are stock-based and F/FD compatible, but I'm interested in possible AOSP developments.
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Where are you from mate?
From Belarus.
Btw, appears that FD is officially here: the only retailer sells it for $1030.
I got et the distinct feeeling the s8 dual sim is much more widely released than previous samsung dual sim phones. mine is the Ltin American version i bought locally in the caribbean and it comes with officla Samsung warranty in-country. Previously, I had bought the s7 Edge from Amazon, it came with "international waranty", which actually meant NO international warranty, when i cracked the screen, i had to have the phone sent back to egypt (which is where the Amazon seller had sourced the phone from), local Samsung service refused to repair the phone even though i wasnt (and couldnt, as it was accidental damage by way of clumsy fingers)) asking for in-warranty repair but was going tonpay the full repaur price.
Not sure why these are cheaper - at 1030, there is nothing cheap about these. The 64gb s8 plus I got in Trinidad cost 910 US$ - thats the cheapest I could find in-country.
Note 7 FD or dualism were also cheaper. I have purchased both and only use one sim lol. Both worked perfectly.
Sent from my S8+Rooted
RizSher said:
I got et the distinct feeeling the s8 dual sim is much more widely released than previous samsung dual sim phones. mine is the Ltin American version i bought locally in the caribbean and it comes with officla Samsung warranty in-country. Previously, I had bought the s7 Edge from Amazon, it came with "international waranty", which actually meant NO international warranty, when i cracked the screen, i had to have the phone sent back to egypt (which is where the Amazon seller had sourced the phone from), local Samsung service refused to repair the phone even though i wasnt (and couldnt, as it was accidental damage by way of clumsy fingers)) asking for in-warranty repair but was going tonpay the full repaur price.
Not sure why these are cheaper - at 1030, there is nothing cheap about these. The 64gb s8 plus I got in Trinidad cost 910 US$ - thats the cheapest I could find in-country.
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Here in Switzerland i saw the 8+ 64gb singel sim for 749.- swiss. Thats around 780 Dollars.
p0izn said:
@From0toHero, I wouldn't agree on necessity of homecountry sim - there is a lot of offers on eBay of factory-sealed, country-unlocked 955FDs (no mentions about specific activation flow, should work OOTB).
But after some investigation I would agree that low price tag comes from gray import and blurry warranty scheme (declared as "US return address, foreign manufacturer warranty" ).
Though I've never bought officially imported and certified devices because in my country it automatically means cosmic price =)
As for ROMs compatibility , currently all ROMs are stock-based and F/FD compatible, but I'm interested in possible AOSP developments.
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I purchased a 955FD in Kuwait city last December. Having an issue with No wifi calling in the USA, so can I flash the Deutsche Telekom software version for dual sim card and get wifi calling, and if so would it work on t mobile USA? Also would i change the csc at the same time?
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Hi there. I'm new here and I signed up with hopes of getting advice on the Mi 9!
Background Live in Ontario
Often travel between cities (ie. Toronto, London and possibly Ottawa)
Phone carrier is Freedom Mobile
What attracts me to the Mi 9 is the affordability and mid-range pricing with the specs provided. I really like the camera features and image quality; the chipsets and the ability to wirelessly charge your phone are an added plus. I've only owned two phones in my life, being: (1) Sony Ericsson Z1010 and (2) Samsung S4 so I am really looking to upgrade.
I understand that the Global Version of the Mi 9 is compatible with the following FDD-LTE Bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17*, 20, 28, 38, 39, 40.
* Read somewhere that band 17 is only available when flashed with the Global ROM.
Mi 9 does not support the new bands 13 and 66 that Freedom Mobile has
Is this a smart purchase (ie. "future-proof") or should I look into another phone that more supports the Canadian market? Alternatively, will I be fine without those bands? I've read posts of other people experiencing no problems but are these unique cases or are they just not experiencing problems for now?
Honestly, I think deep down I know the answer to the above-mentioned but I really like this phone and can't justify a higher price point for other phones with similar or lesser specs. Aggh!
Option 1: Finding another phone
Can you share any other comparable models? Prefer if the price range is below $700 CAD; mid-range bang-for-your-buck, really. I'm looking for internal storage space, battery life, and camera quality.
Option 2: Finding another compatible carrier
Recommend any other carriers outside of the Big 3 (Rogers, Telus, Bell)? Can you share details of the phone plans offered?
MY PLAN I have a $35 CAD grandfathered plan with Freedom. It includes:
Unlimited Canada-wide calling and texting
Unlimited Canada-wide/ U.S. text, picture, and video messaging
Unlimited data (2 GB full speed allotment)
Voicemail
I want to preface this with the fact that my knowledge of phones + phone plans is very narrow and limited so please tread carefully. I'll take this as a learning opportunity and a chance to develop more knowledge -- thanks to your help.
Thanks a million!
Muller21pr0 said:
what do you mean? are you taklking about smatphone mi 9 that was released recently?
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Yes, the Xiaomi Mi 9. I've edited the post to include the brand name now!
Hello,
I would like to know the following:
1. Based on the Samsung's Unpacked - Part 2 event, there was a slide / presentation that revealed a 512 GB storage option - so, which market / model would have this?
See attached image.
2. Presuming following the Note 20 Ultra 5G., HK version - which is based on the snapdragon variant, unlock-able bootloader, which means rootable, correct?
3. What the various model numbers for various regions?
3. Will the Thom Browne Edition come in 512 GB?
Thanks.
Very good questions. I saw an ad on ebay that was selling (pre-order) a 512GB so now I'm curious to know what the story is
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...432164&hash=item3b4cbda32d:g:CR8AAOSwK1dfOjtl
Swarai said:
Very good questions. I saw an ad on ebay that was selling (pre-order) a 512GB so now I'm curious to know what the story is
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...432164&hash=item3b4cbda32d:g:CR8AAOSwK1dfOjtl
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China only I believe I read?
Got some answers ...
karthigan said:
Hello,
I would like to know the following:
1. Based on the Samsung's Unpacked - Part 2 event, there was a slide / presentation that revealed a 512 GB storage option - so, which market / model would have this?
See attached image.
2. Presuming following the Note 20 Ultra 5G., HK version - which is based on the snapdragon variant, unlock-able bootloader, which means rootable, correct?
3. What the various model numbers for various regions?
3. Will the Thom Browne Edition come in 512 GB?
Thanks.
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So, I have an update from Samsung Canada - Chat online (the lpcdn.lpsnmedia.net website for the chat session - since it appears the original chat session never gets connected to an "actual" agent), if you need the direct chat link URL, let me know.
1. 512GB variant is only available in selective markets - according to the internal documents - 512GB is stated as *TBD* - but the chat agent thinks it will likely be the South Korea Variant, and HK Variant only. But also it could be released much later than the original launch date.
3. Thom Browne Edition WILL NOT come in 512 GB, it is only 256 GB.
Also, since you CAN NOT pre-order the Thom Browne Edition on Samsung's Canada's Website - it is again, *TBD* - out of the limited quantities available - Samsung Inventory Management Department (I was quoted to SIMD by the agent) - every region will have a certain quantity for order, and once done, there is no way to order it, unless third party web sites (wondamobile, pda plaza, swiftronics, etc.) carries then.
Not sure if I should take these answers with "grains of salt" or if this agent was actually knowledgeable. The agent's name was Paula.
So, we'll see.
Hitman3984 said:
China only I believe I read?
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Yeah, China, Taiwan, and Korea
Swarai said:
Yeah, China, Taiwan, and Korea
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Guess they figured those of us in North America and Europe werent good enough for the 512gb version.
Samsung is doing quite a bit to annoy customers this year. I am one of them, long time samsung customer and they are doing a fabulous job of alienating its loyal customer base so far in 2020 especially lately
force70 said:
Guess they figured those of us in North America and Europe werent good enough for the 512gb version.
Samsung is doing quite a bit to annoy customers this year. I am one of them, long time samsung customer and they are doing a fabulous job of alienating its loyal customer base so far in 2020 especially lately
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Isn't this due to different habits in each market? EU/US are very cloud heavy, with a lot of streaming for video & music...so most of the storage space will be for apps and photos.
For most users, i'd wager over 90% but don't have stats to back that up, 256gb is more than enough - overkill in fact.
In Korea/China/HK things are different and local storage is really important, so you see a lot of manufacturers offering expandable or larger storage in those markets.
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Isn't this due to different habits in each market? EU/US are very cloud heavy, with a lot of streaming for video & music...so most of the storage space will be for apps and photos.
For most users, i'd wager over 90% but don't have stats to back that up, 256gb is more than enough - overkill in fact.
In Korea/China/HK things are different and local storage is really important, so you see a lot of manufacturers offering expandable or larger storage in those markets.
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who knows why, either way it's very frustrating similar to how having the note 20 ultra 512gb version available only in black.
its idiotic and just irritates some customers, people want choices that's nothing new.
512 vs 256
Spud1 said:
Isn't this due to different habits in each market? EU/US are very cloud heavy, with a lot of streaming for video & music...so most of the storage space will be for apps and photos.
For most users, i'd wager over 90% but don't have stats to back that up, 256gb is more than enough - overkill in fact.
In Korea/China/HK things are different and local storage is really important, so you see a lot of manufacturers offering expandable or larger storage in those markets.
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I'd have to respectfully disagree with this, as I've lived in China for 20 years, literally about half my life. Basically, all China runs on the cloud. You'll find very very few, except for maybe the old generations (50+) not streaming everything from music to games to movies and tv from online streaming services. The only local storage used is to install games and apps, and to hold tens of thousands of pictures they love taking of every little thing. You won't find them storing videos or music or anything on their phones though. So this particular line of reasoning, at least for China, I feel doesn't hold water. But that's JMHO.
Regardless of who lives where and such, it should come with at least what the previous version did and/or allow expandable storage. We all keep getting less yet the price becomes higher. Charger is next to go. They tried as best they could to get it as close to the original price as possible, but there are sacrifices because of it obviously.
Word of caution. We're back to the old days where different variants have different cellular bands. My Tab S7+ 5G from Spain supports a handful of EU 5G bands but the only U.S. band it supports is AT&T's 850MHz. It's SD 865+ just like the Z Fold 2 so I'd imagine all Samsung's 5G phones are going to have support for bands by region. If you're happy with LTE then it doesn't matter. If you like to flip your phones I think a non-5G capable version of a $2,000 phone would be a hard sell here in the U.S. so that's something to consider too.
Old days?? Been like that for as long as I can remember.
shollywood said:
Old days?? Been like that for as long as I can remember.
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Multi band LTE radios made it much less of an issue.
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Multi band LTE radios made it much less of an issue.
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Samsung has made multi-models for as long as I can remember. Unless you specifically purchase the US/Canada model, there was always at least 2+ bands missing on LTE from the other variants. Those devices would work in most areas, but not in all of the outskirts.
Even the S20 USA and Canada versions differ, both LTE and 5G bands are different. This on a very recent device.
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Samsung has made multi-models for as long as I can remember. Unless you specifically purchase the US/Canada model, there was always at least 2+ bands missing on LTE from the other variants. Those devices would work in most areas, but not in all of the outskirts.
Even the S20 USA and Canada versions differ, both LTE and 5G bands are different. This on a very recent device.
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Which LTE bands do you consider missing? The point I was making is that multi-band LTE support has greatly evolved whereas 5G is going to be hit or miss for a while. Someone with a current generation device can pretty much count on accessing LTE worldwide no matter what the phone's country of origin. For 5G? Not so much and not for a long time.
Looks like wonda mobile got their pre-order page up: https://www.wondamobile.com/samsung-galaxy-fold-2-5g-dual-512-gb-f907n-sim-free-and-unlocked.html
The link mentions F907N variant, but on the page it is F9160.
It costs: $2,221.40 USD (approx. $2,926.21 CAD)
It is the 12 GB RAM, 512 GB storage.
However, surprised to see it as a single SIM, not even an SD slot and/or 2nd sim, is that new for a HK model?
I have asked this question in the Note 20 Ultra thread, but I'll ask again here (as no answers were posted), now that all Galaxy Z Fold 2 is using Snapdragon chipset:
1. Since it is based on the Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865+, is there a way to change the LTE & 5G bands on the SM-F9160?
2. Is it hard-coded into the firmware of the 5G modem that is incorporated with the Snapdragon 865+, which makes the change impossible?
3. Since I am with Rogers provider - is it possible to change the CSC on SM-F9160 to match that of Rogers?
Dont think your going to get any answers for the next little while. It is still in pre-order state and not readily available. However, I have not seen or heard of any that will have dual SIM and definitely no SD card slot for storage expansion.
karthigan said:
Looks like wonda mobile got their pre-order page up: https://www.wondamobile.com/samsung-galaxy-fold-2-5g-dual-512-gb-f907n-sim-free-and-unlocked.html
The link mentions F907N variant, but on the page it is F9160.
It costs: $2,221.40 USD (approx. $2,926.21 CAD)
It is the 12 GB RAM, 512 GB storage.
However, surprised to see it as a single SIM, not even an SD slot and/or 2nd sim, is that new for a HK model?
I have asked this question in the Note 20 Ultra thread, but I'll ask again here (as no answers were posted), now that all Galaxy Z Fold 2 is using Snapdragon chipset:
1. Since it is based on the Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865+, is there a way to change the LTE & 5G bands on the SM-F9160?
2. Is it hard-coded into the firmware of the 5G modem that is incorporated with the Snapdragon 865+, which makes the change impossible?
3. Since I am with Rogers provider - is it possible to change the CSC on SM-F9160 to match that of Rogers?
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I could live without the SD card slot if it came with 512gb. But that's the minimum for me. 256gb won't cut it for me so I'm hoping this phone would work out for me in the US. But I don't want to give up 5g or all the bands I need for LTE on tmobile in the US.
chetly968 said:
I could live without the SD card slot if it came with 512gb. But that's the minimum for me. 256gb won't cut it for me so I'm hoping this phone would work out for me in the US. But I don't want to give up 5g or all the bands I need for LTE on tmobile in the US.
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Same, I still cant believe samsung was stupid enough to give this top-tier phone only 256gb of storage in most parts of the world. They seem to favour the asian countries since they got 512gb.Note 20 ultra got 512gb in black only here i canada and most other places yet again some (not all) asian countries got other colours in 512gb.
This is a trend starting here and not a good look for samsung or any company showing bias like this.
I've imported tons of phones, but I will not do that with this one due to its more fragile nature and knowing samsung canada will not touch a non Canadian device for warranty.
Hard enough to get them to touch a CDN device with warranty!
Hello everyone...
I am transitioning away from iOS thanks to the Z Fold 2 after 13 years (on iOS since the 3GS) and one of the biggest concerns I have right now is whether the US version of the phone is compatible with NFC-F (FeliCa).
I have family in Japan and having used Suica alongside my phone and Apple Watch made all the difference in the world while there...
My question: I remember reading somewhere that the hardware on the Z Fold 2 is exactly the same everywhere... Considering there is no chance on Earth a manufacturer would release a flagship in Japan without FeliCa, my hope is that the US version will also be compatible with it.
Where can I find the list of specific SKUs (assuming Samsung has something similar to Apple)?
Thank you!
Samsung differentiates their products by market. Typically features are common within individual market groups (EG: Europe, Asia, U.S.). This year the radios are different in each phone with 5G bands varying by country. Instead of SKU's Samsung alters the model numbers. So there's no assurance that phones from one region will support all the radio bands and features from another region. Here's the Fold 2 page from the Samsung Japan site. There's probably a chat or phone number to call and they'd be able to answer your question.
https://www.galaxymobile.jp/galaxy-z-fold2/
I have been reading that the US versions of the Z Flip 3 do not have eSim support. However Google Fi uses eSim on all of their other phones so I am wondering if they are getting their phones with that enabled.
I currently use my eSim and a physical sim card in my Pixel 3XL so this matters to me. They are not active at the same time but I can easily switch between them. I had assumed I could still do the same since all of the specs I found online listed an eSim. If anyone knows if this will be the case I would love to know. Otherwise I might need to cancel my pre-order.
Thanks,
Master K
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
I discovered that there are 2 IMEI numbers on the Flip 3 box. There were IMEI1 and IMEI2. This leaves me to believe the US version of the Flip 3 is physically identical to the International version. The difference is probably software.
I contacted Samsung’s costumer support and inquired about the eSIM on Flip 3. Customer Support said this is not a feature that US version is provisioned for. Not willing to give up, I pointed out that the box lists 2 IMEI numbers. I asked if this is something that could be fixed with a software. The customer support said Samsung would be sending out an update to fix this when ready. I am not sure if I was given an answer just to get rid of me. Since the international version has eSIM function so, this is not a technical issue.
The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
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The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
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My Flip 3 is from Google Fi and it was made in Vietnam.
OK. Like I said: Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
The US models of the Galaxy S21 line still have eSIM disabled.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung has followed this plan again with the US unlocked models of its new Galaxy Z Flip 3 and Z Fold 3 phones. For now, at least, you'll be connecting these phones to one subscription at a time.
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Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
Markeee said:
Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
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The article is saying it takes forever, if at all. It includes the Fold. It also implies that the carrier plays a role in whether or not it gets enabled.
That aside, I'm not actually looking for it. I just like to be informed.
Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
Anyone who's contacted Google for anything learns quickly not to contact Google for anything.
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I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
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Yes, this was an option but I traded in my Pixel 4XL already. My Pixel 4XL was quite good. I did not have any battery issue. The only thing was that it got really hot when I used Google Maps for navigation. Sometimes, it would even shut down on a hot day in the car while using navigation. Mine was in excellent shape and I got $350.00 back for trade in. Not too bad as I got that for half price during a Black Friday sale. I got $150.00 Samsung credit for getting this phone. This Flip 3 is actually cheap. Adding all the credits and refund on my Pixel 4XL. It only cost me slightly over $200.00 (including tax).
This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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Nice meeting you. Take care.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
Markeee said:
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
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Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
chompx2 said:
Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
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You should be getting One UI 4.0 Beta soon let us know if it enables it on your Flip also I think it will
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/pp5euk
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/po25h5
mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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Not true, note 20 ultra has esim.