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I already have the HTC TP since almost 2 weeks and I'm quite happy with the HTC Touch pro so far .
However I have been a SONY Ericsson P Series user since SE ever came up with the P800 many years ago. After the P990i I thought I'd migrate to WM and I bought myself a Fujitsu Siemens T830 , I used it for a month and I realised that it's too difficult to use with one hand so I bought myself the new SE P1i by then.
After using the HTC Touch Pro for about 10 days, I still think my current Sony Eriscsson P1 is still much better when it comes to one hand operation and ease of executing things quicker than a WM based device.
Today I received a message from Clove.co.uk that they will be starting to ship the new awaited SE X1 on October 6th and asking me if I want one too..
So I was wondering if I should buy also the new SE X1 since it's a Sony Ericsson phone and this phone will supersede the SE P1i and I was hoping that they will somehow implemet the succesful points on the P1 into the X1.
Do you guys thing that X1 is a better phıne than the HTC Touch Pro and if yes why ? I compared the specs basically two phones have identical specs.
Which one would you buy ? Do you think that I should hang on to HTC TP until WM 7 is out ?
I'm open to suggestions
thanks
P.S. If I buy the SE X1 , I will give my TP to my wife . If I don't like the X1 she gets to keep the X1
Well, the Sony has most of what the HTC TP has (not sure about GSensor) but also has 800 X 480 pixels and a larger screen.
If I didn't already buy the HTC TP I would go for the Sony.
yeah if i end up not getting 3g on my TP then i will look to sell and get the X1 if it can.
topspeclt said:
Well, the Sony has most of what the HTC TP has (not sure about GSensor) but also has 800 X 480 pixels and a larger screen.
If I didn't already buy the HTC TP I would go for the Sony.
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Doesn't have a G-sensor, but it does have a 3.5mm headphone jack and a bigger screen... The specs look better (384MB RAM!), but the interface is a memory whore so the performance may not be so much better than the Touch Pro. Keyboard on the Touch Pro is better as well.
The sony is out next week! I just received an email from clove.com. I thought it was not due out this fast?!
Black93300ZX said:
Doesn't have a G-sensor, but it does have a 3.5mm headphone jack and a bigger screen... The specs look better (384MB RAM!), but the interface is a memory whore so the performance may not be so much better than the Touch Pro. Keyboard on the Touch Pro is better as well.
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The X1 has a ATI Graphics Accelerator so everything sould be smooth - and it is if you check the youtube videos.
Damn. I only had my HTC Touch Pro for a week and now I need to sell!
The X1 is also much larger than the TP - this might be a major for some people.
Yea, been watching the videos. Its also a brick. Many metal parts although I hear its built real nice thou. Very sturdy... hmmmm
topspeclt said:
The X1 has a ATI Graphics Accelerator so everything sould be smooth - and it is if you check the youtube videos.
Damn. I only had my HTC Touch Pro for a week and now I need to sell!
The X1 is also much larger than the TP - this might be a major for some people.
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If you were correct I'd agree, but I just saw a video of a very recent version where they rotated on the panel interface, and the panels skipped and lagged quite a bit going from portrait to landscape... So no, it's not smooth. It's in retail packaging, which I thought was odd.
Edit: Here ya go, this was just posted 4 days ago.
http://miniurl.org/2qL
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Yea, been watching the videos. Its also a brick. Many metal parts although I hear its built real nice thou. Very sturdy... hmmmm
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That's one thing I love about it, I like heavy phones and I like metal. It just makes it feel more well-built, even if you know in your heart HTC had their hands on it.
Both Phones have Pro's compared to each other.
Rather than just ordering one, maybe I should test one X1 to decide.
But I heard WM 7.0 is on the way at 2009 , TP and X1 probably cam be rom updated ?
Don't forget: SE announced that this will be their last (WM?) phone. So I doubt that they will give much support in the future.
doublecheese said:
Both Phones have Pro's compared to each other.
Rather than just ordering one, maybe I should test one X1 to decide.
But I heard WM 7.0 is on the way at 2009 , TP and X1 probably cam be rom updated ?
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Nobody knows at this point, I'm assuming so based on the track record of Windows Mobile. It's expected to be late 2009 before the release, so I wouldn't worry about that just yet.
clausg said:
Don't forget: SE announced that this will be their last (WM?) phone. So I doubt that they will give much support in the future.
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That's the great part, they won't give support to windows-mobile specific features, but the panel interface SDK could be universal. Could be... We'll see if they carry that on over to other devices.
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Don't forget: SE announced that this will be their last (WM?) phone. So I doubt that they will give much support in the future.
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I thought I heard it the other way around as UIQ is having hard time and SE will not continue on P series because of that.....
@Black93300ZX
So let's put WM 7.0 aside for the time being, thanks
I was in doubt too, but eventually went for the TP because even tough a bigger screen is nice, it will probably be incompatible with some apps, i also thought it would be more expensive (it is) and i don't like the panel interface that much.
Another big thing is the community: i guess there is a lot more support for for the Diamond/TP on this forum then for the X1.
Was also doubting between there two. Went for the pro since it was out earlier, I thought the X1 would be more expensive, I liked the looks of the pro more, odd screensize (incompatibilities?), and some more...
But now I'm doubting again to maybe go for the X1 afterall (and sell the pro). Main reasons being the average camera, perhaps SE can make something more out of it, the gps problems and the fact the keyboard reacts sluggish or not at all sometimes (mainly with wifi on).
But as long as no reviews are out, or the phone itself it's too early to make decisions...
Hi,
I might change to the X1, if it had GPS, but it is no option for me without internal GPS. Or am I wrong, does it have GPS?
S.
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Hi,
I probably would change to X1, if it had internal GPS. Or am I wrong does it have GPS?
S.
Yes it has a A-GPS , same as the Touch Pro.
I still can't decide if I should also buy the X1 ......or not ???
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P.S. If I buy the SE X1 , I will give my TP to my wife . If I don't like the X1 she gets to keep the X1
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Been using TP for 3-4 weeks now. Will look out for user experience for X1 (hopefully in Xda-developers too) instead of just reviews. If have good experience from users, will get one and give TP to me wife
Hey guys I have just ordered this from Play.com for JUST £49.99
I was expecting to pay around £100 so am very happy with that.
Play.com
there is the link if any1 else is interested.
once I have the device I will let you guys know how the battery life of the DHD has held up for me as i'm wondering if I will even get a day out it with bluetooth on all day!
haha, the irony. requires android 2.0 or better. no sony handset officially has 2.0 or better.
anyway, they do look cool. if it does full screen clock il get one, £50 isnt much for a watch. i doubt il use it for its intended purpose much.
thanks for the heads up. keep us updated on if its any good!!!
Ooh - this is right up my street. and for £50 I'm hoping you can't really go wrong!
I'm gonna wait for reviews, but I love crap like this! I'm excited.
rossysaurus said:
haha, the irony. requires android 2.0 or better. no sony handset officially has 2.0 or better.
anyway, they do look cool. if it does full screen clock il get one, £50 isnt much for a watch. i doubt il use it for its intended purpose much.
thanks for the heads up. keep us updated on if its any good!!!
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they are getting an upgrade soon....i think its around the same time as the product lauch!
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Ooh - this is right up my street. and for £50 I'm hoping you can't really go wrong!
I'm gonna wait for reviews, but I love crap like this! I'm excited.
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I will try and review it here, so if you have an specific questions feel free to ask.
i'm most worried about the thickness and the battery life of the DHD
Hmm, well after the experience i had with their X10, it will be a looong time before i would be comfortable buying another SE product...
It has just been delayed till the 29th
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Just made my Christmas list! G/f was going to get me WoW: Cataclysm (Does she realise what that would do to our relationship?!), but this is more than likely a better choice
REVIEW
I was very excited about this little gadget and thought that the Sony Ericsson brand and the cost of the device assured me of its quality. However I am actually very disappointed in it.
Firstly the screen, although AMOLED, really is quite poor. The resolution is low and the colours are all washed out. The strap that comes with it is a bit crude and when worn as a watch looks very unstylish.
Next and most importantly, connection; I succesfully connected to my HTC Desire HD but it loses this connection - a lot - and it's not because I am too far away either. I can't stress how the process of reconnection is extremely frustrating and takes a lot of attempts. It defeats the entire purpose of this device. Now I know there have been issues with BT connectivity on the DHD but I see other makes and models having similar problems with this gadget. (Samsung Galaxy S, Desire, Wildfire)
As for transferring of data, that seems to be fine once connected, but don't expect all features to work with non Ericsson phones. I could not use media player function and calendar reminder for example.
The user interface is a bit fiddly too and one feature to 'remote control' your phone to show the full version of an article you have on the LiveView, is hit and miss too.
Now obviously this is a new device with a lot of potential from developers to introduce their own plug-ins, and software updates may eradicate some of these problems. But for now, I feel that it's too buggy to be useful and you are best waiting for it to be more established. It may be fine with SE phones but as it clearly states it is compatible with all Android v2+ phones, so I expect more reliability.
So this device has connection problems with dhd, right?
Does it command smoothly radio channels as well?
goodbye liveview!
Thanks apprentice, you've saved me 50 quid - I saw your review on Amazon and decided to steer clear for now.
Be nice if the issues were fixed, but I somehow doubt they will be.
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Can confirm that these do not fully work with most devices, Sony announced that a vital update is needed this morning and should be coming mid January..
-Source:
engadget.com/2010/12/22/sony-ericsson-liveview-getting-much-needed-january-update/
mikechannon said:
For info this received via email:
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Wow! Sony? Actually listening to their users???
This is a major milestone in Sony's history. I can't say that I'm impressed, but I am surely surprised and very grateful!
Wow! Sony? Actually listening to their users???
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In my experience Sony's customer support is second to none. But let me be clear, I mean Sony, not Sony Ericsson.
I bought a SONY LCD TV, and discovered a strange bug: If I selected a mono radio station, it entirely cut off sound output from SCART 2. I phoned Sony, they apologised and suggested a work around. A couple of months later I get a phone call "We've fixed that problem you reported, would you like us to send round an engineer to update your TV's firmware?".
So I won't have a word said against Sony.
Sony Ericsson and to an extent Sony Computer Entertainment, on the other hand... be my guest.
And yes, the LiveView as it stands is unusable, and I just don't understand how it could have got through any QA process in this state. It just does not work.
Not going to pay out for Googles keyboard. Haven't used one on a tablet - what are your bluetooth keyboard suggestions?
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Not going to pay out for Googles keyboard. Haven't used one on a tablet - what are your bluetooth keyboard suggestions?
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Found this: http://www.amazon.com/IVSO-8-9-inch...Portfolio/dp/B00OLQEMHQ/ref=pd_rhf_gw_p_img_1
Not sure if I want to pull the trigger
I use this one on my Nexus 10. And it will probably work perfectly for the N9 too. I'm suspect Kensington may make one sized for the N9, but the one for 10" tablets will only provide more outer protection for a smaller tablet.
The N9 keyboard is not like the Asus Transformer Keyboards, which were built especially for that specific model of tablet. The N9 keyboard is just a bluetooth keyboard. There's no shortage of them on the market and any should work fine.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk
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Found this: http://www.amazon.com/IVSO-8-9-inch...Portfolio/dp/B00OLQEMHQ/ref=pd_rhf_gw_p_img_1
Not sure if I want to pull the trigger
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What's the difference between http://www.amazon.com/IVSO-8-9-inch-Ultra-Thin-Bluetooth-Portfolio/dp/B00OLQEMHQ/
and http://www.amazon.com/IVSO-8-9-inch-Ultra-Thin-Bluetooth-Portfolio/dp/B00OM1BDRM/, except one is in stock and the other on October 31 and is 0.40 USD cheaper?
Nevermind: Found the difference after carefully checking the pictures
Cheers
Tom
I would recommend you the Filco MiniLa Air Bluetooth Mechanical Keyboard
I'm planning on using this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005EOWBKE
tom1807 said:
What's the difference between http://www.amazon.com/IVSO-8-9-inch-Ultra-Thin-Bluetooth-Portfolio/dp/B00OLQEMHQ/
and http://www.amazon.com/IVSO-8-9-inch-Ultra-Thin-Bluetooth-Portfolio/dp/B00OM1BDRM/, except one is in stock and the other on October 31 and is 0.40 USD cheaper?
Nevermind: Found the difference after carefully checking the pictures
Cheers
Tom
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What's the difference? I can't tell?
1 link, 2nd picture shows that the keys are smaller to have more space for the hand to rest on the keyboard, the 2nd link, first picture is this missing, but bigger keys
tom1807 said:
What's the difference between http://www.amazon.com/IVSO-8-9-inch-Ultra-Thin-Bluetooth-Portfolio/dp/B00OLQEMHQ/
and http://www.amazon.com/IVSO-8-9-inch-Ultra-Thin-Bluetooth-Portfolio/dp/B00OM1BDRM/, except one is in stock and the other on October 31 and is 0.40 USD cheaper?
Nevermind: Found the difference after carefully checking the pictures
Cheers
Tom
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Well, there's one big problem with these cases. They cover both speakers. Beats me, why they didn't account for this, when designing the thing.
Great looking covers though.
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I'll personally be using the Logitech K480.
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I'll personally be using the Logitech K480.
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Yeah, looked at that one too, but I guess I decided that I didn't like the round keys. Also I saw in an interview that it is quite heavy and there for not ideal for using it as a note taking tool in class.
If you get, please let me know how you feel about it
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I thought the n9 keyboard used NFC...
GatorsUF said:
I thought the n9 keyboard used NFC...
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It does, but only as a pairing tool, it uses Bluetooth to maintain the connection.
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I bought my Periboard 804 from Perixx and used it heavily about two years with my N7.1. It works like a charm!
Gormsen said:
Yeah, looked at that one too, but I guess I decided that I didn't like the round keys. Also I saw in an interview that it is quite heavy and there for not ideal for using it as a note taking tool in class.
If you get, please let me know how you feel about it
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I actually got it about a week ago, using it with my N7 while I wait for the N9 to ship. I really like it, yes it's heavy and not really meant to be taken around everywhere, but it's surprisingly sturdy and I think the extra heft will help with keeping the N9 in place when it's docked into the keyboard. Using it to type this post right now
farmerbb said:
I actually got it about a week ago, using it with my N7 while I wait for the N9 to ship. I really like it, yes it's heavy and not really meant to be taken around everywhere, but it's surprisingly sturdy and I think the extra heft will help with keeping the N9 in place when it's docked into the keyboard. Using it to type this post right now
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Not bad
As I'm going to use my N9 for taking notes in class, I'm gonna need a lighter keyboard to carry around. So really considering the one from Microsoft
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Not bad
As I'm going to use my N9 for taking notes in class, I'm gonna need a lighter keyboard to carry around. So really considering the one from Microsoft
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Speaking of using this in class, I've got the N9 and keyboard case pre-ordered but I'm debating the utility of it vs a smaller Windows notebook or convertible. Any thoughts on this?
I'm going to order this and keep my order on the Magic case. Much cheaper than $130
http://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Blue...09&sr=1-6&keywords=android+bluetooth+keyboard
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I actually got it about a week ago, using it with my N7 while I wait for the N9 to ship. I really like it, yes it's heavy and not really meant to be taken around everywhere, but it's surprisingly sturdy and I think the extra heft will help with keeping the N9 in place when it's docked into the keyboard. Using it to type this post right now
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Thanks for posting about the Logitech keyboard. I think I am going to order one.
Just got the Microsoft Wedge Keyboard, I'll let you guys know how well it does, now I'm just waiting for the damn tablet to ship
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I don't know if this is a mistake or if it is intentional, but I jumped on it. You might want to do the same.
Nexus 9 Keyboard Folio for $87
http://bitli.es/n9kbd
Mike
mhannigan said:
I don't know if this is a mistake or if it is intentional, but I jumped on it. You might want to do the same.
Nexus 9 Keyboard Folio for $87
http://bitli.es/n9kbd
Mike
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Out of stock already - go figure. Some big gift-giving holiday coming up...
Joe_6pak said:
Out of stock already - go figure. Some big gift-giving holiday coming up...
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You can still order it at that price though, and get it when its in stock.
I successfully had amazon price match mine and received it today. At $130 I was very buyers-remorse-y, but $87 seems really fair. I'm typing on it right now and it's a solid piece of kit. I wish it was backlit, but the magnets are strong, and found it will actually support it in 3 angle configurations. I'm pretty happy with it overall. Just wish they had opted for dedicated home/back/ recent as opposed to the 2 awfully large emoji keys, but c'est la vie.
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Must have been a bad Price by HTC.
It's back to $129, even with a Prime account.
For those that got it.... Lucky You!
Correction... $125.18
naah amazon will reduce prices on things at random. many people sign up for these types of alerts on specific items.
the folio case is nice! i eventually picked it up from goog since amazon had no eta. it is nice and with a bluetooth mouse, its the perfect combo for me.
cloud storage and a sandisk 64 gb otg drive, im good...
Hey, has anyone tried any of the Bluetooth game pads with this phone, obviously they're going to work, but I mean specifically the pads that hold the phone like the ipega ones.
Has anyone actually got one of these and can say how well they fit the note 9?
beta546 said:
Hey, has anyone tried any of the Bluetooth game pads with this phone, obviously they're going to work, but I mean specifically the pads that hold the phone like the ipega ones.
Has anyone actually got one of these and can say how well they fit the note 9?
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i ordered the 9023 after extensive research and should be getting it next week. its not perfect but from what i have read there is alot of crap out there and this is the least worst of it that can fit a nite9
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i ordered the 9023 after extensive research and should be getting it next week. its not perfect but from what i have read there is alot of crap out there and this is the least worst of it that can fit a nite9
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That's actually the one I was most interested in as it would hold the smaller of my tablets as well. I've read good reviews about it, but bad ones too, you never know what to believe with stuff like that.
I hope it works well for you, but let me know how it is once you receive it ?
Any updates?
beta546 said:
Hey, has anyone tried any of the Bluetooth game pads with this phone, obviously they're going to work, but I mean specifically the pads that hold the phone like the ipega ones.
Has anyone actually got one of these and can say how well they fit the note 9?
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Im waiting for the updated Gamevice to works with the Note 9. Right now it supports all Samsung phones except the Note 9 which IDK why.
I might sell it and get the ROG Phone.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N8OQKZ1/ref=ppx_yo_mob_b_inactive_ship_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought this one in 2017 and it works great on my SM-P580 (Android 7.1) Note 5 (Android 7.1), Note 9 SM-N960U1 (Android 9). I can't vouch for other controllers by that company though.
I currently have the FlyDigi Stinger (Left / Right) and the worth great, specially for shooters