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I've read mixed reviews regarding the Moto G's camera, some say it's pretty good, others describe it as dire and has trouble focusing.
What are your experiences and have you tried any other camera apps? Can different software overcome the problems? And even add features, such as white balance settings? I use Pro Capture sometimes on my N5, simply because the standard camera app has a 16:9 viewfinder when it shoots 4:3 pictures and that annoys me no end...
My friend has just ordered this phone based on my recommendation (there is no other phone in her price range that I would even consider, frankly), and I want to make sure her experience is a great one! This will be her first ever smartphone.
Also, does the phone have any other minor niggles which I can resolve in advance for her, by changing settings or using different apps? I'm already considering installing Opera as her main browser rather than ram-hog Chrome.
Edit: This phone will not be rooted, I'm not opening that can of worms for her just yet, unless I'm asked.
Moto Camera app itself is pretty good with simplest settings, I wouldnt recommend using any other camera apps. It has both 16:9 and 4:3 viewfinder options. I didn't have any "focus" issue and might happen sometimes when there is hardly any lighting. Chrome actually works good in this phone but if she has no need for syncing desktop bookmarks and other things, stock aosp browser (can be installed from play store) works much faster than any other browser.
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Moto Camera app itself is pretty good with simplest settings, I wouldnt recommend using any other camera apps. It has both 16:9 and 4:3 viewfinder options. I didn't have any "focus" issue and might happen sometimes when there is hardly any lighting. Chrome actually works good in this phone but if she has no need for syncing desktop bookmarks and other things, stock aosp browser (can be installed from play store) works much faster than any other browser.
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I love the AOSP browser but too many things quit working after Jellybean for me to continue using it. I miss AOSP browser every day though, not least of all text reflow and the speed. Dumping the ability to implement text reflow (not only in Chrome but also every app that relies on the Webview class, such as GMail) was a **** move by Google. Hate them for that.
Glad to hear that the camera is going to do ok with not much messing with settings, my friend really just needs a point and shoot that will capture stuff with minimum hassle. I'll see how she gets on with it then.
For me the camera sucks, i got some purple tint with flash in my pics :S
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For me the camera sucks, i got some purple tint with flash in my pics :S
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Is that not a fault? Thought about taking it back and exchanging it?
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Yup, that would def. be a major faulty worthy of free replacement or repair and even easy to prove.
Is it not annoying that the focus feature is not launched by default, and you have to go to the settings wheel every time that you want to take a picture with something in focus? This is another reason I'm thinking about installing a third party camera app for my friend, when the phone arrives.
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Not enough RAM
The camera isn't that bad. I've had some good shots from it.
But the lack of RAM is the biggest issue for me, especially when using Chrome. When browsing I often see all other apps killed off, including music playback, which is very frustrating. Basically I cannot use Chrome and Google Play Music together for long.
Also, if I'm casting something to my Chromecast then using Chrome will often kill off the Chromecast notification in the status bar.
And it isn't just Chrome. Yesterday I had RunKeeper tracking a long walk with the family and when I tried using the camera to take some photos along the way it forced RunKeeper to close so I lost my route mapping.
1GB of RAM just isn't enough for me sadly and I am looking to switch to a different device. I am saving for either a Moto X or a Nexus 5.
I understand that problem well - my last phone before my N5 was a Galaxy S3, and the multitasking was abysmal. It was a lot better with an AOSP ROM though, and I was hoping that 1GB RAM on a nice clean (almost) stock build of Android would perform well enough for my friend. There really isn't much alternative in this price range to be fair. Sad to hear about Runkeeper, she's into running in a big way and that's almost certain to be one of the first apps she downloads...
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It's an nice nippy device, beautiful screen. Just the camera seems to bu a lot of people.
If you update the camera app through the play store and use HDR then the pictures are good.
There seem to be some problems using the flash, but on mine I haven't had this problem. Though,
what I find using the flash is that it doesn't always(mostly) lite's up correctly. Leaving mostly
dark pictures. I am pretty sure with the correct software it would function just fine.
We should be able to activate the flash manually then start the camera. Could be done with an hack.
Someone on the net suggested to update to the correct radio if you have an custom rom and purple shine. Don't know if that is true. But it couldn't hurt to try.
In any case, not using HDR gives horrible pictures for sure. Check out the pictures thread
on the the moto g forum for examples there above acceptable. And check 'motorola' in the play store.
edit; you also can checkout CameraMX.
Camera issues resolved.
I had a bit trouble with camera but not anymore. You simply change the picture to 4:3 and most importantly control focus and exposure by yourself ( because in low light camera doesn't take good pics at all). You can keep HDR and flash on auto mode.
You can even try AOSP camera ( install it manually without flashing) but I would recommend to stick to stock camera.
Bad call quality(to low volume)
I don`t care about camera, or RAM, they are good enough for me. Bad low volume in earpiece, that **** is killing me. This is my best phone overall i owned, but sound quality(in call volume) is the worst. Does anyone alse also have that problem? I`m thinking about selling Moto G, just because of this issue.
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I don`t care about camera, or RAM, they are good enough for me. Bad low volume in earpiece, that **** is killing me. This is my best phone overall i owned, but sound quality(in call volume) is the worst. Does anyone alse also have that problem? I`m thinking about selling Moto G, just because of this issue.
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Is there any Fix available for this?
By our Moto G Developer community??
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Hi guys,
I appreciate that this is a specific Mix 2 question but couldnt see a mix 2 section yet to post in.
I recieved my Mix 2 about a week ago and my first impressions are that its a great phone - it does everything I want....... apart from when it comes to the cameras.
Firstly, the quality is pretty bad and a large step back from the oppo find 7 I am switching from. Both front and rear facing cameras fail to properly focus and always seem to take photos like there is a dirty lens, a sort of soft look, most obvious when photographing text, which just isnt sharp at all.
Secondly, it appears that the second rear facing camera doesn't do anything - is it even real?!? I believe its there for the optical zoom option, but even when you zoom in with the camera app, you can still cover this camera and it has no effect on the photo, therefore it is not used.
Any ideas on how to improve the picture quality? I presume its going to be a case of waiting for Doogee or some developers to take this device on to update the firmware......
Thanks
joeyjoejoe206 said:
Hi guys,
I appreciate that this is a specific Mix 2 question but couldnt see a mix 2 section yet to post in.
I recieved my Mix 2 about a week ago and my first impressions are that its a great phone - it does everything I want....... apart from when it comes to the cameras.
Firstly, the quality is pretty bad and a large step back from the oppo find 7 I am switching from. Both front and rear facing cameras fail to properly focus and always seem to take photos like there is a dirty lens, a sort of soft look, most obvious when photographing text, which just isnt sharp at all.
Secondly, it appears that the second rear facing camera doesn't do anything - is it even real?!? I believe its there for the optical zoom option, but even when you zoom in with the camera app, you can still cover this camera and it has no effect on the photo, therefore it is not used.
Any ideas on how to improve the picture quality? I presume its going to be a case of waiting for Doogee or some developers to take this device on to update the firmware......
Thanks
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A new update of the firmware is being "cooked" to solve this problem.
I know that will be released soon.
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A new update of the firmware is being "cooked" to solve this problem.
I know that will be released soon.
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It would be great... Camera performance is the main issue of the device. On the other hand, all the other features are quite well
Sorry to put this query here. Even i haven't got any place to right it down. I also have a same problem. Rear camera not working. Bought this phone specially for camera specifications. When will be the updates release to make the second rear camera work. Even 8 MP Nokia camera takes better picture than this 16 MP. And there are many bugs. Many apps crashes. And on YouTube I have seen many videos which shows many camera app showing 4k video recording option, but I think that was after update and I still haven't received it.i show that video 1 month back.
New update from company has improved the camera lil bit. But still not a usable one. And it keeps on hunting for focus in video.
From morning all Google apps are getting closed by itself. Please help to solve the issue in mix 2
no updates have improved the camera on this phone for me so far. Taking photos of static images is ok - maybe 6/10, if I use whatsapp to take a photo of anything it always appears very soft and a little blurred. If I try to take a photo of my cat.....no chance, the shutter is so slow, unless the object doesnt move at all you cant capture the image. I do like the phone and previously havent been bothered about camera specs, but that was when all my previous phones could take decent pictures. This might be the reason I get rid of this phone in a few months, it turns out a decent camera is a must for me - I was spoilt with my Oppo find 7, which had an incredible camera
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no updates have improved the camera on this phone for me so far. Taking photos of static images is ok - maybe 6/10, if I use whatsapp to take a photo of anything it always appears very soft and a little blurred. If I try to take a photo of my cat.....no chance, the shutter is so slow, unless the object doesnt move at all you cant capture the image. I do like the phone and previously havent been bothered about camera specs, but that was when all my previous phones could take decent pictures. This might be the reason I get rid of this phone in a few months, it turns out a decent camera is a must for me - I was spoilt with my Oppo find 7, which had an incredible camera
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+1 about camera perfrmance, i bought it to do a review and the camera is the worst thing in an otherwise decent phone. I did a comparison with the honor 7x, which has a much better camera at the same price.
Hdr+
Hallo guys, there isn't a procedure to flash Google camera hdr+ on this smartphone o mediatek CPU. I founded everything for Qualcomm but nothing to mediatek.
Hey, All...
I'm on the newest 9.5.7 on my 12/256 OP7P that I ordered direct from OP.
Although the updates are making the camera better, I still can't wrap my mind around how there can be such a detail and focus issue between photos and apps on the SAME device. To me, that means that it's software that is the issue, and not actually hardware quality...
Here's a comparison of two photos I took with the same conditions in the same distance in the same lighting. One is from the G cam app on my OnePlus 7 Pro and the other is from the stock camera on my OnePlus 7 Pro How can there be such a difference?
Needless to say, the photo that looks better and has much more detail is from the G cam app
To be totally transparent, I also have a Pixel 3XL that I use
Thanks for helping me understand!
Yay for black cats! I have one, too.
Anyhoo, if you're trying to understand the difference in quality between Google's software and OP's, I don't think it's fair. Google's software for their camera is the best on the market. Even the likes of Samsung haven't beaten them yet (for still images and night shots). Personally, I'm happy with the stock camera performance on this 7 Pro because I don't really demand the bleeding edge camera performance on a phone. Not to suggest that you require that, most of us just want usable pics to share online with each other.
Pixel 3a is $400 and has the second best camera (behind the regular Pixel 3) on the market. For some folks, the camera is the number one reason for choosing their phone. For me, it's like number 4 on my list. I didn't like the 6T performance because even for regular shots that I shared online, it was hot garbage. But they've made enough improvement to it on this 7 Pro to make day to day living and photo shooting fair enough. When I need just that much more quality (especially at low light), I just use the Gcam.
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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I wonder how good the actual hardware is on the pixel 3xl camera compared to the OP7P then, lol.
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I wonder how good the actual hardware is on the pixel 3xl camera compared to the OP7P then, lol.
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In my opinion, I don't think it's any better or worse tbh. The capability of the camera application is crucial.
Google put all their effort into taking the best "auto" photos it can conjure up. That's why there doesn't exist the ability to manually change it.
But that camera app is also designed specifically for that HW camera (whichever hw model Pixel it is).
Google just knows what they are doing in that dept.
stuff said:
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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In my opinion, I don't think it's any better or worse tbh. The capability of the camera application is crucial.
Google put all their effort into taking the best "auto" photos it can conjure up. That's why there doesn't exist the ability to manually change it.
But that camera app is also designed specifically for that HW camera (whichever hw model Pixel it is).
Google just knows what they are doing in that dept.
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So, this means, as soon as someone comes up with an amazing G cam port for our phone, we'll be sitting pretty just like everyone else.
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So, this means, as soon as someone comes up with an amazing G cam port for our phone, we'll be sitting pretty just like everyone else.
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Don't take my word 100% on it, but I believe that is the case.
Hey guys, Got my phone 2 days back. I received a software update the very moment I signed in and I did.
Later through the day I went on checking the cameras. I was in a medium to low lit room and I could see the front camera was blurry. So I tried taking pictures but they did turn out well. I tried gcam but the viewfinder was still the same blurred with good shots after the photo was clicked.
I went outside to check the camera and I could see the viewfinder preview was sharp as it looks on my op5. I went back to the low lit room and the viewfinder turned blurry again. Also I tried video calling and the receiver told me that my video looked like some low frame rate camera.
I received an update later which reduced the blur effect a little but it's very much noticeable.
Anybody else has this issue?
Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to be as detailed as possible.
Also I'm not sure if it's a hardware issue. If it's a hardware issue the viewfinder should've been blurred in good light too right?
Also photos when clicked in low-light come out good. The issue is with the viewfinder only.
I'm sceptical of getting a replacement if it's not a hardware issue due to the lockdown delay and all and since it's from OnePlus site I don't get the return option either like Amazon.
Please share your valuable thoughts regarding this and if anyone else's facing the same issue.
Seems like nobody has the issue. So I might rma the device.
Thanks people
alanjolly123 said:
Seems like nobody has the issue. So I might rma the device.
Thanks people
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Man I have the same issue, and yes a friend told me bad quality during whatsapp videocall, I hope is a software problem cause is not acceptable...
claudiovalen said:
Man I have the same issue, and yes a friend told me bad quality during whatsapp videocall, I hope is a software problem cause is not acceptable...
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Ohh finally someone with the same issue. Did you try to report or something?
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Ohh finally someone with the same issue. Did you try to report or something?
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I am still trying to understand if this is an hardware problem or software. I wrote on a forum and they told me "sometimes blurry, but its okay with the colours" and another "whatsapp videocalls were always pretty bad, but I faced issue with blurry camera only at night". People answered me like if this is normal for a 1000€ phone...I come from one plus 7t pro and the front camera was better. I don't know what to do, I wait some days to find more discussion about this, if this is an hardware problem I try to replace otherwise I will ask refund...
I'm pretty sure the 7T & both 8s use the same font camera sensor (Sony imx471) so the images should be similar depending on software.
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I'm pretty sure the 7T & both 8s use the same font camera sensor (Sony imx471) so the images should be similar depending on software.
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Actually the photos in low light turn out good once you've captured them. They're blurry only in the viewfinder. As such video calls are also blurry since what you see on the viewfinder is what the receiver gets.
To top it all the viewfinder is sharp when it's good lighting out there. The issue is only with medium to low light
Hi, i am facing the exact same problem. I got my phone (OnePlus 8) two days back and I started having second thoughts. I really hope it's a software issue. Spent a lot on this device.
I just bought one plus 8 and I am feeling so regretful as I figured out my front camera blurry, I don't know what should i do
Should I wait for software update?
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I just bought one plus 8 and I am feeling so regretful as I figured out my front camera blurry, I don't know what should i do
Should I wait for software update?
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I had a pixel2xl before the one plus 8. When I compared the quality of the photos in general, I thought that the one plus 8 must be broken. we agree that the camera of the one plus 8 is simply ****...
I think my pixel 7 pro is taking photos which are unnecessarily over sharpened and full of digital noise specially in ultrawide is it just me ?? I just got the phone today and and I am now confused if only I am facing this problem or its wide spread,,
Strange, at least in three of four of your photos. This might be the only sample cloud photo I've taken recently. I've cropped this to cut out distracting elements. I don't see anything similar, although in my case there's no blue sky at all, so there could be better examples. Try rebooting?
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Strange, at least in three of four of your photos. This might be the only sample cloud photo I've taken recently. I've cropped this to cut out distracting elements. I don't see anything similar, although in my case there's no blue sky at all, so there could be better examples. Try rebooting?
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Yeap i rebooted the phone ,as it's evening now I can't take the same sky photos,but I will report back tomorrow, can it be a problem only with my device?? Should I return it ??
It is known, that Pixel 6 and 7 phones oversharpen in certain situations. It is quite prominent in 2x portrait mode.
Trouble is not in the fact itself, but in impossibility to configure the intensity of post-processing.
I'm not getting what you're getting in the clouds in the first 3 pictures of yours. Mine aren't taken in ultrawide though. What do your cloud pictures look like without ultrawide?
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Yeap i rebooted the phone ,as it's evening now I can't take the same sky photos,but I will report back tomorrow, can it be a problem only with my device?? Should I return it ??
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As to whether you should return it before confirming that it's always a problem depends on when you're initial (15?) day grace period is up. If it's up very soon, then I would consider returning it and ordering another separately - that way you're guaranteed a brand-new, not refurbished phone. I assume by now that there are at least some refurbished ones available.
Otherwise, you could contact Google and see if they'll guarantee you a new replacement, which would avoid the hassle of return/refund/re-order.
That all said...
Personally, I doubt if there is anything wrong with your hardware. On the Pixel 6 Pro, I remember light flares being a huge problem, especially in night photos just after I got mine, and I remember noticing at some later date that I no longer noticed the issue, so they likely adjusted the camera software or Android firmware in some way to compensate for this.
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I think my pixel 7 pro is taking photos which are unnecessarily over sharpened and full of digital noise specially in ultrawide is it just me ?? I just got the phone today and and I am now confused if only I am facing this problem or its wide spread,,
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Alternatively, you could use GCAM and adjust the post-processing according to your needs.
Gcam is FULLY working on Pixel devices, it just needs a few configuration steps and viola, "better" than stock camera since it gives you almost "full" manual control over post-processing.
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Alternatively, you could use GCAM and adjust the post-processing according to your needs.
Gcam is FULLY working on Pixel devices, it just needs a few configuration steps and viola, "better" than stock camera since it gives you almost "full" manual control over post-processing.
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This is my next step. I loved GCAM on my S21 Ultra and am missing the level of customization with the stock camera app on my Pixel. Is there a particular mod/build you'd recommend?
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This is my next step. I loved GCAM on my S21 Ultra and am missing the level of customization with the stock camera app on my Pixel. Is there a particular mod/build you'd recommend?
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BSG latest works with Pixel 7 Pro perfectly. You just need to set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Also, it would need some fine tuning in the settings, since lenses are detected, but wrongly "named", and the 5X is not there, I mean the button is 4x, but it's the digital zoom, and if you expand to 5x manually with fingers it goes to the 5x lens automatically. That needs to be adjusted.
Otherwise, it works great without any configuration on the sensors, photos are stock like (can be adjusted of course to "better") and video fully works like on stock, including OIS, slow motion too and timelapse.
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BSG latest works with Pixel 7 Pro perfectly. You just need to set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Also, it would need some fine tuning in the settings, since lenses are detected, but wrongly "named", and the 5X is not there, I mean the button is 4x, but it's the digital zoom, and if you expand to 5x manually with fingers it goes to the 5x lens automatically. That needs to be adjusted.
Otherwise, it works great without any configuration on the sensors, photos are stock like (can be adjusted of course to "better") and video fully works like on stock, including OIS, slow motion too and timelapse.
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For me, on latest BSG 8.6 (v9) the tele button does work correctly. It says 5 and it will switch to the tele. Could be because I am using a config from telegram.
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For me, on latest BSG 8.6 (v9) the tele button does work correctly. It says 5 and it will switch to the tele. Could be because I am using a config from telegram.
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The latest BSG with interface set too Pixel 6 Pro, it shows a 4x, but if you start zooming in manually by sliding 2 fingers, after it gets 5x digital, it switches to the physical zoom lens. It works perfectly fine on P7P.
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The latest BSG with interface set too Pixel 6 Pro, it shows a 4x, but if you start zooming in manually by sliding 2 fingers, after it gets 5x digital, it switches to the physical zoom lens. It works perfectly fine on P7P.
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Shows 5x for me. No need to zoom manually.
And yeah I just tried something, I cleared app data and set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Now it says 4x.
Try the attached config, if you wish (credit goes to SkyKing007), it should "fix" the tele button.
Alternatively you can search for "tele" in the developer settings and set the "camera.ultra_tele_zoom_ratio_facing_back" to 5.0.
I know that it over sharpenes the 2x potrait but it's pretty weird to me that it's doing the same in main or ultra wide camera even my previous OnePlus 9 pro haven't done this ..
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It is known, that Pixel 6 and 7 phones oversharpen in certain situations. It is quite prominent in 2x portrait mode.
Trouble is not in the fact itself, but in impossibility to configure the intensity of post-processing.
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I'm not getting what you're getting in the clouds in the first 3 pictures of yours. Mine aren't taken in ultrawide though. What do your cloud pictures look like without ultrawide?
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It's more or less the same the 1st photo is taken on the standard main camera.
roirraW edor ehT said:
As to whether you should return it before confirming that it's always a problem depends on when you're initial (15?) day grace period is up. If it's up very soon, then I would consider returning it and ordering another separately - that way you're guaranteed a brand-new, not refurbished phone. I assume by now that there are at least some refurbished ones available.
Otherwise, you could contact Google and see if they'll guarantee you a new replacement, which would avoid the hassle of return/refund/re-order.
That all said...
Personally, I doubt if there is anything wrong with your hardware. On the Pixel 6 Pro, I remember light flares being a huge problem, especially in night photos just after I got mine, and I remember noticing at some later date that I no longer noticed the issue, so they likely adjusted the camera software or Android firmware in some way to compensate for this.
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Thak you for the suggestions,I just got the phone tomorrow I would continue to check if its a consistent problem or not ,as much as I know pixels get update with in the 1st week of every month so I will wait to see if the November update improves something..
@jericho246 thanks for the config! which version should i use? ...ENG.apk or ...MGC.apk?
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Thak you for the suggestions,I just got the phone tomorrow I would continue to check if its a consistent problem or not ,as much as I know pixels get update with in the 1st week of every month so I will wait to see if the November update improves something..
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Improve what? This is how pixels take photos. No joking here, maybe just go back to what you had? Or your phone is defective. Try a new one first.
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Shows 5x for me. No need to zoom manually.
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And yeah I just tried something, I cleared app data and set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Now it says 4x.
Try the attached config, if you wish (credit goes to SkyKing007), it should "fix" the tele button.
Alternatively you can search for "tele" in the developer settings and set the "camera.ultra_tele_zoom_ratio_facing_back" to 5.0.
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Hmm interesting, I made quick comparision in all modes and stock gcam making better photos, more details in most of situations, but differences are small. Actualy this is first situation I ever noticed where stock app is better than any modded gcam, well stock is gcam
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@jericho246 thanks for the config! which version should i use? ...ENG.apk or ...MGC.apk?
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For Pixel phones it doesn't matter which one you use. I use the MGC one.
I'm seriously confused about people using gcam, on well, a pixel. The pixel has gcam!