Hi all! Today I have received my Note 10 and did transfer data from my S10e. All went well as usual. Played with the phone for an hour or so. I then launched Phone Info app and Personal tab showed my phone's battery health at 99.4% and discharge cycle is 0(never charged phone yet). I thought strange... I plugged the phone in as the battery % was at 31. While phone was charging, I kept checking battery health through Phone info app and it went down to 97.5%.
As an example: I have S10e which I owned for 2+ months and battery health is shown as 100% and discharge cycle is 19, which is about right.
Could it be that the phone is new and was never charged to let the battery calibrate itself and system to realize that?
Link to app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
If this app is correct, I may need to exchange/return device. Can anyone check their Note 10 or maybe Note 10+ for the battery health info?
I tried to factory reset device couple of times, but the battery health is around 98%. Other Samsung phone that I had, showed 100% especially when new.
I think that software is unreliable I think you should just enjoy your phone.
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shook187 said:
I think that software is unreliable I think you should just enjoy your phone.
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I would have to agree, I installed the app last night and it said my battery health was like 40%.
I've had this app for awhile didn't realize the battery health section. Mine is saying 40% as well. I wouldnt worry about it
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My 10+ also shows 40. My SOT is ~9.5hrs. Go figure.
Same as me. I installed phone info and show health 40%
My Note 10+ shows 40.1%, and I do think you need a rooted device to make that app reliable.
A brand new battery often shows 94 - 97% health on a rooted device.
The battery gets better and better after several charge/discharge cycles done the right way, up until a point where it starts to drop from the charging cycles.
If you always let you phone die or go under 20% and then charge to 100% it will degrade faster.
I have tried this on both S8 and S9 with root.
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I've been looking at apps but none of them tell me the Original charge capacity vs the current wear level (current charge capacity).
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I've been looking at apps but none of them tell me the Original charge capacity vs the current wear level (current charge capacity).
Thanks
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Try "Battery Calibration" from the market. It will clear out your old battery stats and shows you the correct battery charge. Follow these steps:
1. Download and install "Battery Calibration"
2. Charge your phone to 100%
3. Without unplugging, press the "Calibrate" button in the app
4. After calibrating is done, unplug the phone
5. Use the phone till it drains out to 0% and turns off
6. Charge it to 100% without a break
Now your phone should show you the correct battery stats. This app is a must-have if you've flashed a new ROM onto your phone. But you can use it to calibrate your battery whenever you feel that it is not reflecting the correct charge.
Or if you have CWM recovery installed, just boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats when ur battery is at 100% and still plugged in.
People.... he is NOT asking about the calibration nonsense (pure placebo, the apps do not do anything useful). He wants to know the nominal vs. current capacity, i.e. the wear level.
@OP: Sorry, neither do I. Maybe the info is just not accessible by SW.
I just want an app that shows me the % used / hour.
bump! i want this app to show wear and tear? anyone? or should i google it :lol:
Battery charging and wear levelling
newklear85 said:
I've been looking at apps but none of them tell me the Original charge capacity vs the current wear level (current charge capacity).
Thanks
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Actually, it is hard to tell the battery charging and weal levelling. It may vary due to the usage, temperature, environment variables (humidity etc) and the ROM too.
I don't that there is such applications available in market.
Google play only lists the apps which is showing the battery charged/remaining percentage only.
Usually batteries last for around 400-500 charge cycles. A charge cycle is completed when you discharge the phone to 0% and charge it to 100%. If you charge your phone once everyday, your battery will last around a year and a half I.e. 18 months.If you charge your phone twice everyday, the battery will last for around 9 months and so on
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Usually batteries last for around 400-500 charge cycles. A charge cycle is completed when you discharge the phone to 0% and charge it to 100%. If you charge your phone once everyday, your battery will last around a year and a half I.e. 18 months.If you charge your phone twice everyday, the battery will last for around 9 months and so on
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Not necessary. I charge twice a day and my battery lasted for the last 2 years.
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Everyone email snapdragon devs to have them incorporate battery information on weartear. N cycle counts into that app
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i'm also
i'm also searching for application thats shows battery wear level and charging capacity, but i fined this thread
doctor83 said:
i'm also searching for application thats shows battery wear level and charging capacity, but i fined this thread
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Have u tried snap dragon app?
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Junior Einstein said:
Usually batteries last for around 400-500 charge cycles. A charge cycle is completed when you discharge the phone to 0% and charge it to 100%. If you charge your phone once everyday, your battery will last around a year and a half I.e. 18 months.If you charge your phone twice everyday, the battery will last for around 9 months and so on
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gonna call bull on these numbers - I've had my phone for near 3 years. There's times it gets charged 3 times a day when being used heavily and times it can go 48 hours or longer before it needs to be charged. I have not noted any decrease in the time it holds a charge. I think there are too many factors that can impact battery life to say there is a set number of charging cycles it can handle.
Which means unless you had something installed to measure the battery right from the first charge you aren't going to find an app that can tell you what you want as there is no way for it to go back in time and tell you what the original numbers were.
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I would also like to know how much wear my battery has.
I had a DROID 3 and I had terrible battery life and when I replaced the battery the phone ran like new, it was great. In that case I was sure the battery was old at that point so now I want to know if I should do the same for my DROID 4 however the process is definitely more involved so I wanted to know if it was possible beforehand to see if it is worth it
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There is a plethora of such programs for windows, like this one :
http://batterycare.net/en/images.html
we are looking for the same thing for Android
It would be especially useful since some battery will last longer then others...
Some battery will still have 85% of their design capacity after 900 cycles..
Others are at 50% after 300 cycles.. a 3000 mAh battery is now a 1500mAh one...
Depends fron the battery cell origin and quality.. japanese cell are the best
Also very useful to check if the replacement battery you purchased is holding the advertised charge...
Is it even possible to get that info out from a cellular battery?? They are much smaller, perhaps they dont have the required circuitry.
Any news about a battery that would do that (indicate battery wear level) for Android in 2015 ?
I would love to check by battery wear level as well.
I have a Nexus 7 2013 and am wondering if a new battery would be worth it yet.
Ok guys often we unplug charger when fone says 100% but i found a simple trick. I installed battery saver app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ijinshan.kbatterydoctor_en
Even after 100% the charging system enters trickle charging system which takes 10 mins even after 100%. Point to note is when the status is at 3 the fone reports the batt is 100% but that is the time trickle charging kicks in..and doing this my battery did showed little more improvement
Please note : I did not use any batt saving options via app i just used it for monitoring the trickle charge...
Really puzzles me why such a basic app would need to many permissions. Better apps on the store that requires much less permissions to run.
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Really puzzles me why such a basic app would need to many permissions. Better apps on the store that requires much less permissions to run.
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No idea bt it did help...thats all
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No need for any app to do this, I always let my devices to charge at least 10 mins more after reaching 100%.
No need for this application as phone does not give message of fully charged even after reaching 100% and status will be " (100% charging). Once the trickle charging is complete you will get message on lock screen" Fully charged".
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There is an option on my Samsung laptop to only charge to 80% to prolong battery lifespan. My Note 3's battery is so good, I would rather see such an app that would stop charging at 80% or 90%.
I usually have 50-60% battery left by the end of a long day. And that's with quite heavy work. I stopped plugging in the charger in the car for my commute, there is no need!
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There is an option on my Samsung laptop to only charge to 80% to prolong battery lifespan. My Note 3's battery is so good, I would rather see such an app that would stop charging at 80% or 90%.
I usually have 50-60% battery left by the end of a long day. And that's with quite heavy work. I stopped plugging in the charger in the car for my commute, there is no need!
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Wow! I agree that the note 3 battery life is the best I've experienced so far but mine is not as good as yours. Will have to try your method of charging to 80%.
When i forget my phone in the charger all night, i get like 20% more battery life out of it!
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Just charge it overnight.
On the big screen U do not do anything ... For normal use the battery life is max 2 days. With gaming max 1 day maybe less...
I got an S7 G930F yesterday, first full charge last night, I haven't it even properly set up yet, haven't got most of my apps installed yet. I took it of the charger this morning at 8am its now at 50% at 2pm, 45 mins screen on time with the biggest battery drain being android system 20%.
I have hardly used the phone today as I'm off work, at this rate it'll be dead long before bedtime with me doing nothing.
Any ideas?
Hard to expect getting the best of it at first. It took me a good week to figure out how to optimized battery without having to use it like a 2G phone. I suggest you do factory reset. Observe how it goes that way. For the first time, a handful of things run in the background; syncing, location, whatsoever so I bet it'll take a while to really adapt and I can assure you based on experience, it's like that as it was like for me.
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I got an S7 G930F yesterday, first full charge last night, I haven't it even properly set up yet, haven't got most of my apps installed yet. I took it of the charger this morning at 8am its now at 50% at 2pm, 45 mins screen on time with the biggest battery drain being android system 20%.
I have hardly used the phone today as I'm off work, at this rate it'll be dead long before bedtime with me doing nothing.
Any ideas?
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Always takes a few full charge cycles to get the best out of a new battery I find, fully charge and fully discharge 4-5 times, calibrates the phone too to know what 0% and 100% are iirc
But you're always going to see high battery usage setting up a new phone, installing apps, screen on constantly, playing about with it more than you will once you've had it a while
The are wide reports today of crazy bad battery life. Some people are tying it the latest Oculus update.
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Always takes a few full charge cycles to get the best out of a new battery I find, fully charge and fully discharge 4-5 times, calibrates the phone too to know what 0% and 100% are iirc
But you're always going to see high battery usage setting up a new phone, installing apps, screen on constantly, playing about with it more than you will once you've had it a while
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I'd like to believe that but I didn't have this issue on my Nexus 5X with a smaller battery or Huawei P9 Lite, in fact the P9 Lite also has a 3000mAh battery and I could make it last 2 full days, this won't last 1.
Getting the phone yesterday, you've hardly given it a chance, with heavy usage I get just over a day with mine, with medium, 2 days
Same phone, same OS, same battery
See how you get on in a week or two, or return it and get the Edge, 3600mAh
Check the package disabler pro threads, disable the battery draining bloatware (no root needed)
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Getting the phone yesterday, you've hardly given it a chance, with heavy usage I get just over a day with mine, with medium, 2 days
Same phone, same OS, same battery
See how you get on in a week or two, or return it and get the Edge, 3600mAh
Check the package disabler pro threads, disable the battery draining bloatware (no root needed)
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Yep thats the usage I got with my P9 Lite with the same size battery. I was sitting this morning look at the phones always on display. 30mins of the charger it was at 94% and that's with me not even touching it.
It's crap for the first few days
Whenever I first got my phone or when I factory reset or when I install new rom, the battery life is usually crap. But after a few days when battery optimization kicks in (power saving on apps not used in past few days) battery gets tremendously better.
Posting back to confirm that Oculus update shat on a lot of phones.
Oculus home process kept trying to install and uninstall. This demolished battery life, increased heat, etc.
Once I uninstalled Oculus, all problems went away. I will reinstall after fix.
This may be caused by either the oculus app or good lock app they have been reports on the Internet about these two particular apps
Also when setting the phone for the first time it will drain battery in the first few days
Confirmed about Oculus draining battery
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...p-samsung-phones-causing-heavy-battery-drain/
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The are wide reports today of crazy bad battery life. Some people are tying it the latest Oculus update.
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Definitely was, my phone overheated and shut down over night when the update came through. I literally couldn't charge it it with fast charger. it would just sit at the same % it was burning through the battery so quickly. uninstalled sammy vr and oculus apps everything fine now.
I don't have anything oculus related installed. The is day 2, second full charge last night. Of the charger now 1 hour, its got flight mode on with wifi calling enabled. I am currently at 90% with 1 min screen on time. Android services again the biggest hog but it contains IPSec services which does the Wifi Calling part.
I was about to remove Occulus when I received an occulus update, about one hour ago, and it seems that the problem is fixed. The battery looks ok, and the phone is not hot any more. I'm waiting a little bit more to be sure...
Right guys I have found the culprit of my drain issue. Wifi calling. I happened to turn it off and I have gone from 10% drain in an hour to 1%
That's more like it, never used WiFi calling so wouldn't know if it causes drain
EDIT - Not available with my model / carrier
There's a debloat script back in the Development Section which will remove all those trash that came with the phone, as for battery optimaztion This Ultimate Battery Guide is one of the best here in XDA and is a must see for anyone with an android phone basically
Goodluck
Hi, I installed the S3 update over the air to my Korean S2 a couple of days ago. Everything seems fine except for issues with the battery. I Can take the watch of the charger after an overnight charge and wear it all day, powering it off before i go to bed in the evening. When i shut it down the charge can be over 50% but when i power it back on in the morning the charge is just over 10%. If i leave it powered on but not on charge the percentage will increase over the next couple of hours back to just under 50%. The problem is i can never be sure what the true state of charge is, so i am unsure whether it will last the day.
Anyone else having this issue or know how to fix it?
I have problem with battery. Battery is discharging really fast.
That's weird. My battery life seems pretty good. My watch has been off the charger for 5 hrs and I'm still at 94%
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Yeah, it looks like that first 2-3 charging cycles were not good, but today I have really good battery life. ... So my problem is solved.
On the old firmware I could wear it 16 hours and put it back on the charger with over 60% left. Since the update I am down to 20% in four hours. I've done 2 hard and one soft reset to no avail. The battery thing on the phone app says its my watchface and I should use a dark one but I am. This, frankly, is a show stopper. I can't recharge 2 or 3 times a day. Any idea how to reinstall the R734XXU2DPG1 firmware? That worked.
Apparently a couple of recharges fixes the battery issue. Don't know why but it does. So far at least.
Hi
I just updated my gear s2 classic yesterday with the new ota, my battery doesn't even last for 2 hours now, before it gave me 1_1.5 days. In battery usage it shows 22% usage by contacts and 19% watchface even though I'm using the stock with no customization and even the background is same as default for menus.
I've denied the permission for gear plug in for contacts even then the drain is too fast.
How can we fix this, any ideas.
Does anyone get quite bad battery drain overnight?seems to drain more than when I had my s7 edge!!I know s7 edge had doze built in so I'm assuming s8+ also had doze built in,also compared to my previous phone iPhone 7+ which hardly drained,dropped 10% overnight about 6 hours doing nothing and was in ultra battery settings also using greenify,do I need to download the app doze?other than this battery life through the day and such has been great anyone else get this?cheers
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Does anyone get quite bad battery drain overnight?seems to drain more than when I had my s7 edge!!I know s7 edge had doze built in so I'm assuming s8+ also had doze built in,also compared to my previous phone iPhone 7+ which hardly drained,dropped 10% overnight about 6 hours doing nothing and was in ultra battery settings also using greenify,do I need to download the app doze?other than this battery life through the day and such has been great anyone else get this?cheers
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No issues here just woke up after 5hrs and half at 98% on AT&T S8 Plus
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No issues here just woke up after 5hrs and half at 98% on AT&T S8 Plus
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How come your apps haven't showed up should be so many with tiny use have you got apps installed?do you use greenify or anything?cheers
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How come your apps haven't showed up should be so many with tiny use have you got apps installed?do you use greenify or anything?cheers
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The reason why it don't show i unplugged phone around 2:30 am after that i went right back to bed and just woke up now , so thats normal will not show apps since phone wasn't touched till i got up, once you start using phone and apps then it will start showing apps being used!
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The reason why it don't show i unplugged phone around 2:30 am after that i went right back to bed and just woke up now , so thats normal will not show apps since phone wasn't touched till i got up, once you start using phone and apps then it will start showing apps being used!
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See look at pictures after i woke up a few minutes later am using phone so now apps are showing up!
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My battery drain overnight is minimal, 8 hours off the plug on a full charge is 4-6 per cent.
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My battery drain overnight is minimal, 8 hours off the plug on a full charge is 4-6 per cent.
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Yup that sounds about right!
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The reason why it don't show i unplugged phone around 2:30 am after that i went right back to bed and just woke up now , so thats normal will not show apps since phone wasn't touched till i got up, once you start using phone and apps then it will start showing apps being used!
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So before you stop using phone for night do you close all apps in background for them not to show or just leave it?thanks for info
I'm having a battery issue as well. I had my phone on the car charger for 5 hours and it showed that it was charging but my phone dropped to 6%. There were no apps running in the background and I restarted the phone.
My T-Mobile variant S8+ seldom has more than a 4% drop after being fully charged and sitting on desk for 8-9 hours. I've disabled Bixby and several other services.
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I'm having a battery issue as well. I had my phone on the car charger for 5 hours and it showed that it was charging but my phone dropped to 6%. There were no apps running in the background and I restarted the phone.
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I've had a couple of instances when the battery would not charge when plugged is. Showd as quick charging, but no increase in percent battery charge. Rebooting fixed it for me both times.
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I usually charge my phones overnight, but in the one instance that I left it unplugged, I was pleasantly surprised to wake up to 100%. Not a single percent dropped. It's worth mentioning that I turned the phone over so that AOD would shut off.
i've been having issues as well. it has been draining 20-40% overnight lately. i got gsam with advanced stats on and have been removing stuff... i'm not quite sure what the culprit is, but i think it might be dt ignite so i disabled that.
russellcausier said:
Does anyone get quite bad battery drain overnight?seems to drain more than when I had my s7 edge!!I know s7 edge had doze built in so I'm assuming s8+ also had doze built in,also compared to my previous phone iPhone 7+ which hardly drained,dropped 10% overnight about 6 hours doing nothing and was in ultra battery settings also using greenify,do I need to download the app doze?other than this battery life through the day and such has been great anyone else get this?cheers
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You need to identify the what the wake-locks are that are causing the battery drain. Install BetterBatteryStats, charge your phone right before bedtime, then leave it overnight to collect data. Post a screenshot of BetterBatteryStats when you wakeup the next morning.
i have the same problem with my galaxy S8 i lose overnight between 10 and 20 %.. before this problem i lost 1 to 3% overnight and now it has been a week that i have this problem of loosing 10 to 20% :/
I have my Wi-Fi off, phone face down so Aod is turned off. Location is on power saving mode. Optimised settings ,fhd+. Still I lose more than 10% overnight. What should I do to reduce this drain ?? I am getting a great battery life otherwise on my note 8. About 6 to 7hrs of Sot with about 18 hrs total.
I`m getting 2% drain over 8 hours of sleep with AOD off , wifi on or off it`s the same 2%, location always on on power saving mode.