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With all the the new updates coming out, I was wondering if some of the more experienced people could put a decent post up on how to completely back up all my data and apps.
All the updates for TnT Lite recommend a data wipe and I am getting tired of finding and installing all my apps over and over. And doing stuff like the Hulu and swype hacks over again really suck.
I know I have read to use adb and Titanium, but honestly I do not know how to use either one correctly. I downloaded Titanium but I guess I have been too lazy to figure out how it works.
One more thing, I know CW has its own backup and I have been using that, but I am talking about something that allows for restoring on a new updated rom...
TaterTot24 said:
With all the the new updates coming out, I was wondering if some of the more experienced people could put a decent post up on how to completely back up all my data and apps.
All the updates for TnT Lite recommend a data wipe and I am getting tired of finding and installing all my apps over and over. And doing stuff like the Hulu and swype hacks over again really suck.
I know I have read to use adb and Titanium, but honestly I do not know how to use either one correctly. I downloaded Titanium but I guess I have been too lazy to figure out how it works.
One more thing, I know CW has its own backup and I have been using that, but I am talking about something that allows for restoring on a new updated rom...
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That thing that you are too lazy to learn about is the thing that will do exactly what you want. Titanium backup is very easy to use, has batch features so you can back up all of your apps, or just what you want. Load a new rom, and then do a restore with titanium and most everything will be back. It is not perfect, but it does a good job.
+2 for Titanium Backup. The free version works fine but I purchased it so that it would do automated backups.
Sprdtyf350 said:
That thing that you are too lazy to learn about is the thing that will do exactly what you want. Titanium backup is very easy to use, has batch features so you can back up all of your apps, or just what you want. Load a new rom, and then do a restore with titanium and most everything will be back. It is not perfect, but it does a good job.
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Awesome... I tried playing with it for a little while ealier tonight, but I am still not exactly sure how titanium is suppose to work.... is there a guide or faq out there somewhere?
TaterTot24 said:
Awesome... I tried playing with it for a little while ealier tonight, but I am still not exactly sure how titanium is suppose to work.... is there a guide or faq out there somewhere?
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Cool.. Don't know if there is a guide but I believe you need the paid version to do the batch things. That's what I have so I can't remember what the free version lets you do.
Pretty much all you do for apps is select backup/restore from the top menu bar, then just select the item you want backed up and a menu will come up allowing you to back it up. You can do that for each app, or with the paid version you can press the menu button while in backup/restore and it will have a batch selection. It will have a bunch of options to choose from. To backup all of your apps you would just select backup all user apps. Works pretty fast, and saves them all to your internal sd card in the TitaniumBackup folder by default. Restoring is the same except you pick the restore all user apps button.
It can do a lot more but just doing all of your apps will help a lot.
That's the basics to maybe get ya started...
Have fun...
Batch backup is available in the free version. From the restore/backup tab, press the menu button and choose batch. This will let you backup all apps.
The paid version adds ability to verify your backup.
I wasn't sure how to use titanium backup at first but I went back to android market and followed the link to the developers website where they have guides you can following.
Titanium Backup is the way to go! +2 for Pro and Dropbox sync
Now that people have had the device for a few days, I was hoping their to headstart could help potential switchers and as the SR doesn't have it's own forum yet so I'm asking here.
Newbie alert!!!!
I am wondering how easy it will be to move from the Gs2 to the skyrocket? Basically any recommended ways of moving my apps, texts, pictures, etc to the SdCARD and back from the SdCard to the new phone? Contacts are synced with Google Contacts so no problems there, my main concern is with paid apps, I'd rather not pay for them again.
Can I back up apps via TiBU and restore them on the Skyrocket? Or can I just reinstall them on the new phone?
End of Newbie question!!!!
Paid apps are in your google account as well, you will be able to reinstall all your paid apps through the market (without repaying) by just signing in to your same google account.
The only thing you need to backup is your pictures/music.
Here's what I did to migrate to my Skyrocket from my Captivate:
*Duh Alert* Have your original phone rooted and Titanium Pro installed.
Original Phone
1. Backup APK & Data with Titanium.
2. Locate where backup directory is on your phone. Mine was \sdcard\TitaniumBackup
3. Mount original phone and copy backup directory to your computer.
New Hotness
1. Root that bad boy. Search the site, its here.
2. Install Titanium Pro from market.
3. Back up 1 app, pick something silly. That will create the backup directory.
4. Mount the new hotness and copy your saved directory from your computer to the Skyrocket.
5. Restore apps. I did one at a time cuz I didn't want everything installed on the new phone.
95% of the apps and data restored properly.
Simplistic, yes....but it works. Go forth and multiply.
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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If your just trying to backup like game saves then sometimes. A lot of times that data can be backed up by just mounting your sdcard to your computer and copying the files. Some games do save the data in funny locations so you do need (easier) to use something like Titanium, but you are always better off starting from as scratch as possible to avoid issues later.
Moving an app to save you from entering your login info for example, is just a bad idea. Most apps have no real data to backup, simple 2 second settings etc....
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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TiBu works great, usually, for restoring NON-System apps and their data.
Avoid restoring system apps/data.
Also, if you do happen to run into a problem with a particular restored app, all you need to do is uninstall/reinstall it and then use TiBu to restore the "data only" for that app.
This has always worked for me.
y?
Its basically the same phone, screen tiny bit bigger and it edges r round, and the. 3 faster CPU is not noticeable, and if u don't live in the handful of citys that have lte network what's the point by the time LTE gets fully activated skyrocket will be old phone something way better out, now if u didn't have the gs2 already if say hell ya but since u do wasted money IMO
I made backups of my nexus 4 apps using helium, ready to restore them to my new nexus 5.
Also used helium to make backups of the missus' apps on her galaxy s3, ready to restore them to my old nexus 4 (which she is having).
On both devices I cannot restore the backups, it says there are no backups on internal storage.
Of course now I have wiped the nexus 4 so I can't try again. What's going on?
I have seen posts from other people on this issue but I have been unable to find an actual answer. The various workarounds mentioned do not work.
I thought I might get by without rooting my new N5 this time but I did want to transfer all of my apps and data from my galaxy nexus. I gave helium a try and had exactly the same results as you had. Fortunately I hadn't wiped my galaxy nexus so I broke down and rooted the N5 and used titanium to do the transfer.
I was really surprised at how almost non-existent was the helium support community. It was a real wake-up call. I decided there was no way I could rely on this product. Support is too thin, even if it was working, to rely on it. Too bad because there is no other option for non-root full backup.
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I thought I might get by without rooting my new N5 this time but I did want to transfer all of my apps and data from my galaxy nexus. I gave helium a try and had exactly the same results as you had. Fortunately I hadn't wiped my galaxy nexus so I broke down and rooted the N5 and used titanium to do the transfer.
I was really surprised at how almost non-existent was the helium support community. It was a real wake-up call. I decided there was no way I could rely on this product. Support is too thin, even if it was working, to rely on it. Too bad because there is no other option for non-root full backup.
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Yeah, unfortunately I am not prepared to root at all so I have lucked out on that. A bit peeved that I have lost a lot of game data/progress now but it's not the end of the world, worse thing happen.
Though I will certainly not trust helium ever again...
I had similar problem when switching roms on my old phone. Something got into me and I thought I'd try Helium. Have you tried this:
1. Install the app from Play. When you backup you can usually restore when you want to immediately on the same phone.
2. Overwrite the backup of the freshly installed app with your original backup. Don't delete anything, just overwrite only backup file (the largest, I don't remember extension)
3. Restore.
You can also do backups without rooting using adb backup.
I saw that workaround somewhere around the net but when I tried it only came up with three apps to restore (out of around 30-ish) and none of those actually restored anything.
Also tried the web interface thing, which didn't work either.
That's a terrible title.
Anyways, I had to install Cyanogen from scratch the other day because my upgrade attempt failed. It's been a while since I've started fresh so I figured it was about time anyways. So, as I do in times like these, I have slowly been going through and restoring my apps and settings. There were a few that I did not get to last night, but started working on this morning.
And now I realize that Titanium Backup ran last night and since I it was only set to save one backup, I no longer have backups for the apps that I didn't get to last night! Usually TB doesn't start it's scheduled backups right away, in the past, I have had to go into the program and enable them again. I guess not anymore! So now I have many apps that don't have a good backup since they were not configured prior.
Did I loose anyone? I'm just a little flabbergasted right now and am a little pissed to be honest. One of the apps is a game that I actually spent REAL money on building up and now all progress is lost! I know it's just a game, but it was REAL money!
One more strange thing, I didn't bother restoring most apps last night anyways because usually it's just a log in and stuff is back to normal, so no big deal. But the ones that I did try to restore in TB, it didn't seem to work anyways. I still had to enter login information in for example.
It's all just kinda weird and I'm not sure what to make of this. My old ROM was Cyanogen 10 and the new one is the latest and greatest 11. I wonder if the backups are stored in a different place? But then why would TB appear to have found them and load the data? I don't know. This just doesn't make sense to me.
Any suggestions or ideas out there?
it sounds like you have old nandroids? there is an option in titanium backup that allows you to get app data from nandroid backups.
not sure if i answered your question, and you might already have knowledge of this, but if not it should solve your problem
Maphack said:
it sounds like you have old nandroids? there is an option in titanium backup that allows you to get app data from nandroid backups.
not sure if i answered your question, and you might already have knowledge of this, but if not it should solve your problem
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Ah, thanks, I never noticed that before. However, I apparently made the backup with ROM Manager. Dang it...so close!!!
So, if you have a nandroid can't you just restore that nandroid (and thereby get your data back), then do a titanium backup to capture the data you want, then go through the whole thing again but do it right this time? Wouldn't that work?
Oh yeah, and copy the TiBu data to your SD card or computer as a safeguard too.
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Ah, thanks, I never noticed that before. However, I apparently made the backup with ROM Manager. Dang it...so close!!!
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shouldn't matter... i've been able to pull from both twrp and cwm i'm pretty sure...
rgrossie said:
So, if you have a nandroid can't you just restore that nandroid (and thereby get your data back), then do a titanium backup to capture the data you want, then go through the whole thing again but do it right this time? Wouldn't that work?
Oh yeah, and copy the TiBu data to your SD card or computer as a safeguard too.
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Unfortunately no. I get the MD5 checksum mismatch error. It appears that I ran out of space on my SD card and didn't realize it when I made the backup. Hence, it's not a complete backup.
I was able to combine the 5 tar files into one tar last night. However it did freeze up when I tried extracting. I will play with it some more tonight when I get home.
My wife and I are awaiting our pixel 7 pro phones to arrive. I'd like to start the backup process and be prepared for as much of a seamless switch as possible.
She has a Galaxy note 8 and I have a rooted pixel 2xl. We will be backing up via the stock Google backup process. This gets 80%+ of what we need, but if there's a good way to backup and restore pics, messages, app data not covered under a Google backup, and more stuff I'm not thinking of I'd love to hear about it.
I've read that transferring data from the old phone to the new over the adapter and cord can make the new phone inexplicably have bad battery drain issues for a long time after the data transfer. Because of this it's recommended that over air backups be completed.
For my wife's stock Galaxy note 8 is a swift backup and restore via swfitbackup on her new p7p recommended? What are my options given I'm on a rooted phone? Is there any more thorough backup and restore I can do through swift backup, titanium backup, or other methods? The only times I've ever restored from Titanium backup it was incomplete and I was dissatisfied. I'm note sure what I did wrong.
My thread in general, but you could start with Post #7 - My personal advice for how to get your device back up and running as you had it before a factory reset
Have fun with your new phones when you get them!
Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
Its not just the cord but *any* backup that can restore things that muck up the phone, restoring settings in particular, but app data can be a problem too.
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Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
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Remove settings and apps? Did you mean app data? If I don't restore the apps there's really no point in a restore is there?
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Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
Its not just the cord but *any* backup that can restore things that muck up the phone, restoring settings in particular, but app data can be a problem too.
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I just want to point out that my wife and I have been restoring app data from Google's backup for 6+ years on (5? 6?) devices for each of us and have never had any problems. In two cases (only one for my wife), going to a Samsung device, and also once in each of our cases, going from a Samsung to Pixel.
Restore by cord I agree is a mistake. But just because Google's cloud restore works so much better and more complete.
For the record, I used Swift Backup (and SMS Backup) yesterday to move my apps from my 4 XL to my 7 Pro (both rooted). It worked fine. Some apps asked me to sign in again but settings remained intact for the most part.
I'll see how things are in the coming days but so far, so good.
Ghisy said:
For the record, I used Swift Backup (and SMS Backup) yesterday to move my apps from my 4 XL to my 7 Pro (both rooted). It worked fine. Some apps asked me to sign in again but settings remained intact for the most part.
I'll see how things are in the coming days but so far, so good.
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Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
Schroeder09 said:
Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
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Nah, I always use SMSBackupandRestore. This app has never let me down since the beginning of Android!
SMS Backup & Restore - Apps on Google Play
A simple app that backs up and restores SMS & MMS messages and call logs.
play.google.com
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Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
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Yes, it is. I confirm I have texts in my Google Messages app going back to December, which I recall was when I factory reset my P6P by mistake by accidentally leaving the "-w" in the flash-all.bat, and I have never been too concerned with restoring SMS since I mainly use Google Voice (which keeps things forever no matter what), so whether I allow the cloud restore of SMS when setting up a device fresh is 50/50 for me.
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SMS Backup and Restore is a 3rd party app designed to specifically backup and restore all your SMS text messages because in years past the default Google backup did not do this. I have used it many times myself. However, even though I recommend a fresh install to mitigate any potential bugs, you have stated that you have done several restores to new phones without incident. I also did a Google restore on my 7 Pro without incident AND all my texts came back automatically so it appears as if Google backup is now working properly. So go ahead and let the backup return. You "should" be OK. YMMV
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Remove settings and apps? Did you mean app data? If I don't restore the apps there's really no point in a restore is there?
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The restore would still copy over texts and call logs and such but you are correct, it would be largely a clean install. This has *always* been the recommendation when moving to a new phone. Clean slate = least amount of issues. Added bonus, you get rid of apps you don't even use anymore and get a more streamlined setup.
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I just want to point out that my wife and I have been restoring app data from Google's backup for 6+ years on (5? 6?) devices for each of us and have never had any problems. In two cases (only one for my wife), going to a Samsung device, and also once in each of our cases, going from a Samsung to Pixel.
Restore by cord I agree is a mistake. But just because Google's cloud restore works so much better and more complete.
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Cord or cloud shouldn't really matter as it should be the same settings and app data, just a faster restore with the cord and the copying of some files from storage. Not everyone has problems either but if you don't want to have to potentially set everything back up a second time, it's always good to start with a clean slate if you have the patience to do so.
Schroeder09 said:
My wife and I are awaiting our pixel 7 pro phones to arrive. I'd like to start the backup process and be prepared for as much of a seamless switch as possible.
She has a Galaxy note 8 and I have a rooted pixel 2xl. We will be backing up via the stock Google backup process. This gets 80%+ of what we need, but if there's a good way to backup and restore pics, messages, app data not covered under a Google backup, and more stuff I'm not thinking of I'd love to hear about it.
I've read that transferring data from the old phone to the new over the adapter and cord can make the new phone inexplicably have bad battery drain issues for a long time after the data transfer. Because of this it's recommended that over air backups be completed.
For my wife's stock Galaxy note 8 is a swift backup and restore via swfitbackup on her new p7p recommended? What are my options given I'm on a rooted phone? Is there any more thorough backup and restore I can do through swift backup, titanium backup, or other methods? The only times I've ever restored from Titanium backup it was incomplete and I was dissatisfied. I'm note sure what I did wrong.
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This post/topic makes me feel nostalgic....
It makes me sore for the days we could do nandroid TWRP backups (back in the days from the Pixel 2 XL, like the OP). I found, if tweaked right, those backups saved absolutely everything -- from wallpapers, icon placements, widgets, apps & settings, anything and everything! It was like a literal snapshot of the phone at the time of backup. I messed up my phone a bunch of times, and relied on those backups and would restore and would never miss a beat!
I used to swear by SMS Backup & Restore (from Droid 1 to Galaxy S5, I have texts still from 2012), but (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's not able to save MMS's and RCS (particularly & obviously, because it's totally different technology). I think it even states that in the app on its limitations...so that's something that should be considered when using that to back up -- that you may want to be sure that whatever backup method you use, it saves the MMS's (pictures, audio files, stickers, bitmoji's, etc.)....
I've found Swift is/does well enough. I could be wrong, but I don' t think it backups like Titanium though where you can have different versions and backups of the same app -- I haven't looked hard at the settings or backup, but I couldn't find a way to restore an app at different certain stages. I couldn't get the wallpaper (picture/image) to save correctly on Swift as well...But it is great at supported split apks and "extended media" like .obb files (for games I believe).... Using the phone transfer cord and Swift seems to be comparable as it seems both my messages stated to transfer 2GBs worth, while Swift compressed it to 500MB, it seemed to save the 10s of thousands of texts I have been carrying with me for a decade...
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This post/topic makes me feel nostalgic....
It makes me sore for the days we could do nandroid TWRP backups (back in the days from the Pixel 2 XL, like the OP). I found, if tweaked right, those backups saved absolutely everything -- from wallpapers, icon placements, widgets, apps & settings, anything and everything! It was like a literal snapshot of the phone at the time of backup. I messed up my phone a bunch of times, and relied on those backups and would restore and would never miss a beat!
I used to swear by SMS Backup & Restore (from Droid 1 to Galaxy S5, I have texts still from 2012), but (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's not able to save MMS's and RCS (particularly & obviously, because it's totally different technology). I think it even states that in the app on its limitations...so that's something that should be considered when using that to back up -- that you may want to be sure that whatever backup method you use, it saves the MMS's (pictures, audio files, stickers, bitmoji's, etc.)....
I've found Swift is/does well enough. I could be wrong, but I don' t think it backups like Titanium though where you can have different versions and backups of the same app -- I haven't looked hard at the settings or backup, but I couldn't find a way to restore an app at different certain stages. I couldn't get the wallpaper (picture/image) to save correctly on Swift as well...But it is great at supported split apks and "extended media" like .obb files (for games I believe).... Using the phone transfer cord and Swift seems to be comparable as it seems both my messages stated to transfer 2GBs worth, while Swift compressed it to 500MB, it seemed to save the 10s of thousands of texts I have been carrying with me for a decade...
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All those texts have been migrated from your various texting apps to the Google messages app you use now? That'd be awesome to retain all those. I search for OLD stuff quote a bit, but it seems some stuff disappears.
Ghisy said:
Nah, I always use SMSBackupandRestore. This app has never let me down since the beginning of Android!
SMS Backup & Restore - Apps on Google Play
A simple app that backs up and restores SMS & MMS messages and call logs.
play.google.com
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I second this. Been using this since the really really old days when it was 2 apps in the OG Android days. It can even auto backup to Google Drive everyday and restore from it just as easy.
If you have access to a computer, you could just copy everything and go through the folders bit by bit, or upload them somewhere(Google Photos, Dropbox, Mega, etc) temporarily and put them on your new device.
Whenever I clean flash my phone's, I restore text messages once in awhile but pretty much always start clean and download apps as I find the need for them rather than bulk downloading them all.
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All those texts have been migrated from your various texting apps to the Google messages app you use now? That'd be awesome to retain all those. I search for OLD stuff quote a bit, but it seems some stuff disappears.
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I used SMS Backup & Restore in its infancy back on my Droid 1 days (2012)...and had been migrating each backup after every upgrade up to the S5. I did have a lot of success with TWRP nandroid backups, but I don't think I successfully used it to migrate to a phone upgrade; also it's not an option to the Pixel 7 anyways. Then when I transferred to the Pixel 2 from the S5, I found the transfer tool (via cord) transferred everything perfectly. I went from that to the Pixel 5 to the Pixel 7 now, and it seemed to transfer everything.
It seems the app now makes sure to backup MMS pictures and audio and other media, which it wasn't stable or fully capable back then (which is why I had stopped backing my texts up using it). But a lot of people are swearing by it and that was my go-to back in the day, so I'm sure it's a great tool for transferring texts.
I always used Verizon Messages and it used to transfer well enough, except for this time -- I doubt you use this app, not many do. Verizon Messages was able to detect all the texts, but it couldn't migrate/detect the MMS messages transferred. Again, I doubt you (or anyone) uses the app, but if you do, know that it is lacking or buggy.
I liked to use it though because it supposedly stores texts for 3 months on their server, they'll accept texts even if the device can't receive signal, and will update/resend it when the device can connect, and I kinda liked their interface and how you can apply colors to conversation bubbles...