That's a terrible title.
Anyways, I had to install Cyanogen from scratch the other day because my upgrade attempt failed. It's been a while since I've started fresh so I figured it was about time anyways. So, as I do in times like these, I have slowly been going through and restoring my apps and settings. There were a few that I did not get to last night, but started working on this morning.
And now I realize that Titanium Backup ran last night and since I it was only set to save one backup, I no longer have backups for the apps that I didn't get to last night! Usually TB doesn't start it's scheduled backups right away, in the past, I have had to go into the program and enable them again. I guess not anymore! So now I have many apps that don't have a good backup since they were not configured prior.
Did I loose anyone? I'm just a little flabbergasted right now and am a little pissed to be honest. One of the apps is a game that I actually spent REAL money on building up and now all progress is lost! I know it's just a game, but it was REAL money!
One more strange thing, I didn't bother restoring most apps last night anyways because usually it's just a log in and stuff is back to normal, so no big deal. But the ones that I did try to restore in TB, it didn't seem to work anyways. I still had to enter login information in for example.
It's all just kinda weird and I'm not sure what to make of this. My old ROM was Cyanogen 10 and the new one is the latest and greatest 11. I wonder if the backups are stored in a different place? But then why would TB appear to have found them and load the data? I don't know. This just doesn't make sense to me.
Any suggestions or ideas out there?
it sounds like you have old nandroids? there is an option in titanium backup that allows you to get app data from nandroid backups.
not sure if i answered your question, and you might already have knowledge of this, but if not it should solve your problem
Maphack said:
it sounds like you have old nandroids? there is an option in titanium backup that allows you to get app data from nandroid backups.
not sure if i answered your question, and you might already have knowledge of this, but if not it should solve your problem
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Ah, thanks, I never noticed that before. However, I apparently made the backup with ROM Manager. Dang it...so close!!!
So, if you have a nandroid can't you just restore that nandroid (and thereby get your data back), then do a titanium backup to capture the data you want, then go through the whole thing again but do it right this time? Wouldn't that work?
Oh yeah, and copy the TiBu data to your SD card or computer as a safeguard too.
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Ah, thanks, I never noticed that before. However, I apparently made the backup with ROM Manager. Dang it...so close!!!
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shouldn't matter... i've been able to pull from both twrp and cwm i'm pretty sure...
rgrossie said:
So, if you have a nandroid can't you just restore that nandroid (and thereby get your data back), then do a titanium backup to capture the data you want, then go through the whole thing again but do it right this time? Wouldn't that work?
Oh yeah, and copy the TiBu data to your SD card or computer as a safeguard too.
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Unfortunately no. I get the MD5 checksum mismatch error. It appears that I ran out of space on my SD card and didn't realize it when I made the backup. Hence, it's not a complete backup.
I was able to combine the 5 tar files into one tar last night. However it did freeze up when I tried extracting. I will play with it some more tonight when I get home.
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With all the the new updates coming out, I was wondering if some of the more experienced people could put a decent post up on how to completely back up all my data and apps.
All the updates for TnT Lite recommend a data wipe and I am getting tired of finding and installing all my apps over and over. And doing stuff like the Hulu and swype hacks over again really suck.
I know I have read to use adb and Titanium, but honestly I do not know how to use either one correctly. I downloaded Titanium but I guess I have been too lazy to figure out how it works.
One more thing, I know CW has its own backup and I have been using that, but I am talking about something that allows for restoring on a new updated rom...
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With all the the new updates coming out, I was wondering if some of the more experienced people could put a decent post up on how to completely back up all my data and apps.
All the updates for TnT Lite recommend a data wipe and I am getting tired of finding and installing all my apps over and over. And doing stuff like the Hulu and swype hacks over again really suck.
I know I have read to use adb and Titanium, but honestly I do not know how to use either one correctly. I downloaded Titanium but I guess I have been too lazy to figure out how it works.
One more thing, I know CW has its own backup and I have been using that, but I am talking about something that allows for restoring on a new updated rom...
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That thing that you are too lazy to learn about is the thing that will do exactly what you want. Titanium backup is very easy to use, has batch features so you can back up all of your apps, or just what you want. Load a new rom, and then do a restore with titanium and most everything will be back. It is not perfect, but it does a good job.
+2 for Titanium Backup. The free version works fine but I purchased it so that it would do automated backups.
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That thing that you are too lazy to learn about is the thing that will do exactly what you want. Titanium backup is very easy to use, has batch features so you can back up all of your apps, or just what you want. Load a new rom, and then do a restore with titanium and most everything will be back. It is not perfect, but it does a good job.
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Awesome... I tried playing with it for a little while ealier tonight, but I am still not exactly sure how titanium is suppose to work.... is there a guide or faq out there somewhere?
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Awesome... I tried playing with it for a little while ealier tonight, but I am still not exactly sure how titanium is suppose to work.... is there a guide or faq out there somewhere?
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Cool.. Don't know if there is a guide but I believe you need the paid version to do the batch things. That's what I have so I can't remember what the free version lets you do.
Pretty much all you do for apps is select backup/restore from the top menu bar, then just select the item you want backed up and a menu will come up allowing you to back it up. You can do that for each app, or with the paid version you can press the menu button while in backup/restore and it will have a batch selection. It will have a bunch of options to choose from. To backup all of your apps you would just select backup all user apps. Works pretty fast, and saves them all to your internal sd card in the TitaniumBackup folder by default. Restoring is the same except you pick the restore all user apps button.
It can do a lot more but just doing all of your apps will help a lot.
That's the basics to maybe get ya started...
Have fun...
Batch backup is available in the free version. From the restore/backup tab, press the menu button and choose batch. This will let you backup all apps.
The paid version adds ability to verify your backup.
I wasn't sure how to use titanium backup at first but I went back to android market and followed the link to the developers website where they have guides you can following.
Titanium Backup is the way to go! +2 for Pro and Dropbox sync
I am new to Android but experienced with PC's C++ etc.
Anyway, a quick question. I bought a g-tab today. Immediately installed clockworkmod and TNT lite. All is good and I am having fun.
Is it easy to switch roms without losing my userdata (passwords, bookmarks etc).
I would like to try other roms and don't want to create more work than I need to.
Oh and the viewing angles are acceptable to me as the user
I have been using Titanium backup without any issue for doing it
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Stuggy said:
I am new to Android but experienced with PC's C++ etc.
Anyway, a quick question. I bought a g-tab today. Immediately installed clockworkmod and TNT lite. All is good and I am having fun.
Is it easy to switch roms without losing my userdata (passwords, bookmarks etc).
I would like to try other roms and don't want to create more work than I need to.
Oh and the viewing angles are acceptable to me as the user
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Yes, Titanium backup!!!
Yes, use Titanium Backup to do Batch backups of Apps and Data before you try other ROMs. I also do a full Backup in Clockwork before I try something new, in case I want to go right back to where I was.
ok thanks guys. New to Android so getting up to speed. I must say very smooth process getting it up and running and tweaking it so far.
I noticed the slower boot time with tnt-lite but last boot it seemed faster. I think it was mentioned in the docs.
It might be interesting if there was a poll for which roms people prefer.
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ok thanks guys. New to Android so getting up to speed. I must say very smooth process getting it up and running and tweaking it so far.
I noticed the slower boot time with tnt-lite but last boot it seemed faster. I think it was mentioned in the docs.
It might be interesting if there was a poll for which roms people prefer.
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Your First boot is always going to take some time as there is alot going on in the background that you can only see if you are watching Logcat via adb. After the first boot, boot times should drop unless a large number of apps have been installed.
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Titanium Backup is awesome, but would be nice if there was a big "Back up All System/Data/Apps" button on the main menu. That's pretty much what everybody wants it for right?
nunjabusiness said:
Titanium Backup is awesome, but would be nice if there was a big "Back up All System/Data/Apps" button on the main menu. That's pretty much what everybody wants it for right?
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You wouldn't want to restore system data with Titanium anyway. This is not recommended especially when changing roms. Apps and their data are okay. I make full system backups with Clockwork and backup my apps and data everyday with Titanium. My titanium is linked to dropbox so returning from a repartition/reformat is easily done as well.
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You wouldn't want to restore system data with Titanium anyway. This is not recommended especially when changing roms. Apps and their data are okay. I make full system backups with Clockwork and backup my apps and data everyday with Titanium. My titanium is linked to dropbox so returning from a repartition/reformat is easily done as well.
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Since you have experience with this, is there a way to force TB to send the backups to my external SD card? Copying it there manually is not REAL difficult, but it is an extra step.
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Since you have experience with this, is there a way to force TB to send the backups to my external SD card? Copying it there manually is not REAL difficult, but it is an extra step.
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Not that I know of. Its easier for me to setup the free dropbox account and link Titanium to that. I have the same account on my laptop so it automatically uploads from my tab to dropbox and then downloads to my laptop
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Not that I know of. Its easier for me to setup the free dropbox account and link Titanium to that. I have the same account on my laptop so it automatically uploads from my tab to dropbox and then downloads to my laptop
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I just got a dropbox account since it looks stupid-easy to do it that way.
Now that people have had the device for a few days, I was hoping their to headstart could help potential switchers and as the SR doesn't have it's own forum yet so I'm asking here.
Newbie alert!!!!
I am wondering how easy it will be to move from the Gs2 to the skyrocket? Basically any recommended ways of moving my apps, texts, pictures, etc to the SdCARD and back from the SdCard to the new phone? Contacts are synced with Google Contacts so no problems there, my main concern is with paid apps, I'd rather not pay for them again.
Can I back up apps via TiBU and restore them on the Skyrocket? Or can I just reinstall them on the new phone?
End of Newbie question!!!!
Paid apps are in your google account as well, you will be able to reinstall all your paid apps through the market (without repaying) by just signing in to your same google account.
The only thing you need to backup is your pictures/music.
Here's what I did to migrate to my Skyrocket from my Captivate:
*Duh Alert* Have your original phone rooted and Titanium Pro installed.
Original Phone
1. Backup APK & Data with Titanium.
2. Locate where backup directory is on your phone. Mine was \sdcard\TitaniumBackup
3. Mount original phone and copy backup directory to your computer.
New Hotness
1. Root that bad boy. Search the site, its here.
2. Install Titanium Pro from market.
3. Back up 1 app, pick something silly. That will create the backup directory.
4. Mount the new hotness and copy your saved directory from your computer to the Skyrocket.
5. Restore apps. I did one at a time cuz I didn't want everything installed on the new phone.
95% of the apps and data restored properly.
Simplistic, yes....but it works. Go forth and multiply.
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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If your just trying to backup like game saves then sometimes. A lot of times that data can be backed up by just mounting your sdcard to your computer and copying the files. Some games do save the data in funny locations so you do need (easier) to use something like Titanium, but you are always better off starting from as scratch as possible to avoid issues later.
Moving an app to save you from entering your login info for example, is just a bad idea. Most apps have no real data to backup, simple 2 second settings etc....
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If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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TiBu works great, usually, for restoring NON-System apps and their data.
Avoid restoring system apps/data.
Also, if you do happen to run into a problem with a particular restored app, all you need to do is uninstall/reinstall it and then use TiBu to restore the "data only" for that app.
This has always worked for me.
y?
Its basically the same phone, screen tiny bit bigger and it edges r round, and the. 3 faster CPU is not noticeable, and if u don't live in the handful of citys that have lte network what's the point by the time LTE gets fully activated skyrocket will be old phone something way better out, now if u didn't have the gs2 already if say hell ya but since u do wasted money IMO
on my 4th ROM now, comfortable with the process...but i'm still not super clear on the best way to backup.
i use titanium backup, and i have it set to batch twice a week, i go in and manually nandroid backup once a week or so, and i figured out that if i do a backup in LauncherPro (my favorite launcher) that i don't have to re-do all my screens again, just the clock widget. i also backup my bookmarks in Dolphin.
something tells me i have a bunch of unnecessary steps. can you guys streamline my process? or am i failing to understand how to use titanium (i suspect this is the case)?
appreciate any advice.
Sounds pretty good. Are you also copying off your backups to a PC or network share? That's important in case you lose your phone. Set Titanium to backup to Dropbox and do that periodically.
hmmm no i have not been backing up to PC. should i just copy the entire SD card to PC periodically? i did figure out the trick to get TIBU to synch with my dropbox without having to pay for it, though.
Nandroid backups are useless if you are swapping between ROMs, as they are pretty much a snapshot of your entire phone at the time that you create it. If you just want a complete backup of everything exactly the way it is, then this is all you need to do.
For most other purposes, Titanium Backup is all that you will need to use, it WILL backup the layout of your screen when it creates the backup for LauncherPro, so that's a wasted step. It also gives you quite granular control over how your applications are restored (and which ones). One thing to take note of is that things like SMSs and call logs may not be compatible when swapping between certain ROMs and restoring with titanium backup. To get around this, use a dedicated SMS backup utility from the market (there are plenty of free ones) since it saves the SMS and call log in a different format.
When swapping from something like gingerbread to ICS (for example), you may find that some applications WILL NOT work if you try to restore them. There really isn't any way that you can get around this, and it isn't the fault of any of your backup methods.
Also, its probably worth the five or so dollars to buy Titanium Backup, assuming you want to get the most out of your phone. There are a lot of pro only features that are quite powerful.
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hmmm no i have not been backing up to PC. should i just copy the entire SD card to PC periodically? i did figure out the trick to get TIBU to synch with my dropbox without having to pay for it, though.
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I'd just copy the nandroid backup directory to your PC periodically. The only downside is that the file is pretty big. No need to copy anything else to your PC as long as your syncing Titanium to Dropbox.
Done some searching, but can't figure out the answer. I have TB pro. In the past, it has backed up the apk and data. The apk's took up a lot of space, so I changed settings to back up data only. Put on a new ROM, and now I can't restore any of the apps (everything has a line through it, presumably because there's no apk?). I assumed that I could just automatically reinstall the apps from the play store and that then my settings would be restored as well. Apparently this isn't the case? Huge PITA to restore everything from the play store. If the apk's are necessary (and that's real silly if so) can I just back them up/restore from dropbox? Am I missing something?
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Done some searching, but can't figure out the answer. I have TB pro. In the past, it has backed up the apk and data. The apk's took up a lot of space, so I changed settings to back up data only. Put on a new ROM, and now I can't restore any of the apps (everything has a line through it, presumably because there's no apk?). I assumed that I could just automatically reinstall the apps from the play store and that then my settings would be restored as well. Apparently this isn't the case? Huge PITA to restore everything from the play store. If the apk's are necessary (and that's real silly if so) can I just back them up/restore from dropbox? Am I missing something?
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not sure i can be of help, but yes, if you didnt backup the app then you have to do it manually from the store. i just use the google auto restore from previous set up, for apps, during the initial phone set up. then i go to titanium and restore the data.
i backup apps to, so im just guessing, but i think once you install the app, the line will go away so you can use the backup to restore the data.
Yeah, I think you're right. The auto restore is flakey, the new ROM means it's a new phone, so it wasn't automatic. And the play store is a freaking nightmare to deal with/organize when you have a bunch of different devices going back 5 years. As good as TB is, that's just ridiculous. It knows what apps I have, it should be able to download them again. Why keep the apks on the device? What is the market link function for? A nandroid backup + TB eats most of my SD card space.
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Yeah, I think you're right. The auto restore is flakey, the new ROM means it's a new phone, so it wasn't automatic. And the play store is a freaking nightmare to deal with/organize when you have a bunch of different devices going back 5 years. As good as TB is, that's just ridiculous. It knows what apps I have, it should be able to download them again. Why keep the apks on the device? What is the market link function for? A nandroid backup + TB eats most of my SD card space.
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i never had much luck with it, but i know you can make a zip of your apps to flash with titanium. maybe try that, and if you can get it to work, just store the zip on your pc until you need it, then you can delete the backups. i have an otg i use from time to time for flashing in twrp, you could store it on that also, if you had one.
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Yeah, I think you're right. The auto restore is flakey, the new ROM means it's a new phone, so it wasn't automatic. And the play store is a freaking nightmare to deal with/organize when you have a bunch of different devices going back 5 years. As good as TB is, that's just ridiculous. It knows what apps I have, it should be able to download them again. Why keep the apks on the device? What is the market link function for? A nandroid backup + TB eats most of my SD card space.
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Titanium Backup doesn't download apps. It backs them up from your device if you choose and restores them to your device if you choose. The market link function is mainly to BREAK the market link if you don't want to see updates for a particular app, or to FIX a broken link.