My wife and I are awaiting our pixel 7 pro phones to arrive. I'd like to start the backup process and be prepared for as much of a seamless switch as possible.
She has a Galaxy note 8 and I have a rooted pixel 2xl. We will be backing up via the stock Google backup process. This gets 80%+ of what we need, but if there's a good way to backup and restore pics, messages, app data not covered under a Google backup, and more stuff I'm not thinking of I'd love to hear about it.
I've read that transferring data from the old phone to the new over the adapter and cord can make the new phone inexplicably have bad battery drain issues for a long time after the data transfer. Because of this it's recommended that over air backups be completed.
For my wife's stock Galaxy note 8 is a swift backup and restore via swfitbackup on her new p7p recommended? What are my options given I'm on a rooted phone? Is there any more thorough backup and restore I can do through swift backup, titanium backup, or other methods? The only times I've ever restored from Titanium backup it was incomplete and I was dissatisfied. I'm note sure what I did wrong.
My thread in general, but you could start with Post #7 - My personal advice for how to get your device back up and running as you had it before a factory reset
Have fun with your new phones when you get them!
Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
Its not just the cord but *any* backup that can restore things that muck up the phone, restoring settings in particular, but app data can be a problem too.
EtherealRemnant said:
Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
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Remove settings and apps? Did you mean app data? If I don't restore the apps there's really no point in a restore is there?
EtherealRemnant said:
Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
Its not just the cord but *any* backup that can restore things that muck up the phone, restoring settings in particular, but app data can be a problem too.
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I just want to point out that my wife and I have been restoring app data from Google's backup for 6+ years on (5? 6?) devices for each of us and have never had any problems. In two cases (only one for my wife), going to a Samsung device, and also once in each of our cases, going from a Samsung to Pixel.
Restore by cord I agree is a mistake. But just because Google's cloud restore works so much better and more complete.
For the record, I used Swift Backup (and SMS Backup) yesterday to move my apps from my 4 XL to my 7 Pro (both rooted). It worked fine. Some apps asked me to sign in again but settings remained intact for the most part.
I'll see how things are in the coming days but so far, so good.
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For the record, I used Swift Backup (and SMS Backup) yesterday to move my apps from my 4 XL to my 7 Pro (both rooted). It worked fine. Some apps asked me to sign in again but settings remained intact for the most part.
I'll see how things are in the coming days but so far, so good.
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Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
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Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
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Nah, I always use SMSBackupandRestore. This app has never let me down since the beginning of Android!
SMS Backup & Restore - Apps on Google Play
A simple app that backs up and restores SMS & MMS messages and call logs.
play.google.com
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Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
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Yes, it is. I confirm I have texts in my Google Messages app going back to December, which I recall was when I factory reset my P6P by mistake by accidentally leaving the "-w" in the flash-all.bat, and I have never been too concerned with restoring SMS since I mainly use Google Voice (which keeps things forever no matter what), so whether I allow the cloud restore of SMS when setting up a device fresh is 50/50 for me.
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SMS Backup and Restore is a 3rd party app designed to specifically backup and restore all your SMS text messages because in years past the default Google backup did not do this. I have used it many times myself. However, even though I recommend a fresh install to mitigate any potential bugs, you have stated that you have done several restores to new phones without incident. I also did a Google restore on my 7 Pro without incident AND all my texts came back automatically so it appears as if Google backup is now working properly. So go ahead and let the backup return. You "should" be OK. YMMV
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Remove settings and apps? Did you mean app data? If I don't restore the apps there's really no point in a restore is there?
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The restore would still copy over texts and call logs and such but you are correct, it would be largely a clean install. This has *always* been the recommendation when moving to a new phone. Clean slate = least amount of issues. Added bonus, you get rid of apps you don't even use anymore and get a more streamlined setup.
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I just want to point out that my wife and I have been restoring app data from Google's backup for 6+ years on (5? 6?) devices for each of us and have never had any problems. In two cases (only one for my wife), going to a Samsung device, and also once in each of our cases, going from a Samsung to Pixel.
Restore by cord I agree is a mistake. But just because Google's cloud restore works so much better and more complete.
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Cord or cloud shouldn't really matter as it should be the same settings and app data, just a faster restore with the cord and the copying of some files from storage. Not everyone has problems either but if you don't want to have to potentially set everything back up a second time, it's always good to start with a clean slate if you have the patience to do so.
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My wife and I are awaiting our pixel 7 pro phones to arrive. I'd like to start the backup process and be prepared for as much of a seamless switch as possible.
She has a Galaxy note 8 and I have a rooted pixel 2xl. We will be backing up via the stock Google backup process. This gets 80%+ of what we need, but if there's a good way to backup and restore pics, messages, app data not covered under a Google backup, and more stuff I'm not thinking of I'd love to hear about it.
I've read that transferring data from the old phone to the new over the adapter and cord can make the new phone inexplicably have bad battery drain issues for a long time after the data transfer. Because of this it's recommended that over air backups be completed.
For my wife's stock Galaxy note 8 is a swift backup and restore via swfitbackup on her new p7p recommended? What are my options given I'm on a rooted phone? Is there any more thorough backup and restore I can do through swift backup, titanium backup, or other methods? The only times I've ever restored from Titanium backup it was incomplete and I was dissatisfied. I'm note sure what I did wrong.
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This post/topic makes me feel nostalgic....
It makes me sore for the days we could do nandroid TWRP backups (back in the days from the Pixel 2 XL, like the OP). I found, if tweaked right, those backups saved absolutely everything -- from wallpapers, icon placements, widgets, apps & settings, anything and everything! It was like a literal snapshot of the phone at the time of backup. I messed up my phone a bunch of times, and relied on those backups and would restore and would never miss a beat!
I used to swear by SMS Backup & Restore (from Droid 1 to Galaxy S5, I have texts still from 2012), but (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's not able to save MMS's and RCS (particularly & obviously, because it's totally different technology). I think it even states that in the app on its limitations...so that's something that should be considered when using that to back up -- that you may want to be sure that whatever backup method you use, it saves the MMS's (pictures, audio files, stickers, bitmoji's, etc.)....
I've found Swift is/does well enough. I could be wrong, but I don' t think it backups like Titanium though where you can have different versions and backups of the same app -- I haven't looked hard at the settings or backup, but I couldn't find a way to restore an app at different certain stages. I couldn't get the wallpaper (picture/image) to save correctly on Swift as well...But it is great at supported split apks and "extended media" like .obb files (for games I believe).... Using the phone transfer cord and Swift seems to be comparable as it seems both my messages stated to transfer 2GBs worth, while Swift compressed it to 500MB, it seemed to save the 10s of thousands of texts I have been carrying with me for a decade...
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This post/topic makes me feel nostalgic....
It makes me sore for the days we could do nandroid TWRP backups (back in the days from the Pixel 2 XL, like the OP). I found, if tweaked right, those backups saved absolutely everything -- from wallpapers, icon placements, widgets, apps & settings, anything and everything! It was like a literal snapshot of the phone at the time of backup. I messed up my phone a bunch of times, and relied on those backups and would restore and would never miss a beat!
I used to swear by SMS Backup & Restore (from Droid 1 to Galaxy S5, I have texts still from 2012), but (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's not able to save MMS's and RCS (particularly & obviously, because it's totally different technology). I think it even states that in the app on its limitations...so that's something that should be considered when using that to back up -- that you may want to be sure that whatever backup method you use, it saves the MMS's (pictures, audio files, stickers, bitmoji's, etc.)....
I've found Swift is/does well enough. I could be wrong, but I don' t think it backups like Titanium though where you can have different versions and backups of the same app -- I haven't looked hard at the settings or backup, but I couldn't find a way to restore an app at different certain stages. I couldn't get the wallpaper (picture/image) to save correctly on Swift as well...But it is great at supported split apks and "extended media" like .obb files (for games I believe).... Using the phone transfer cord and Swift seems to be comparable as it seems both my messages stated to transfer 2GBs worth, while Swift compressed it to 500MB, it seemed to save the 10s of thousands of texts I have been carrying with me for a decade...
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All those texts have been migrated from your various texting apps to the Google messages app you use now? That'd be awesome to retain all those. I search for OLD stuff quote a bit, but it seems some stuff disappears.
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Nah, I always use SMSBackupandRestore. This app has never let me down since the beginning of Android!
SMS Backup & Restore - Apps on Google Play
A simple app that backs up and restores SMS & MMS messages and call logs.
play.google.com
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I second this. Been using this since the really really old days when it was 2 apps in the OG Android days. It can even auto backup to Google Drive everyday and restore from it just as easy.
If you have access to a computer, you could just copy everything and go through the folders bit by bit, or upload them somewhere(Google Photos, Dropbox, Mega, etc) temporarily and put them on your new device.
Whenever I clean flash my phone's, I restore text messages once in awhile but pretty much always start clean and download apps as I find the need for them rather than bulk downloading them all.
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All those texts have been migrated from your various texting apps to the Google messages app you use now? That'd be awesome to retain all those. I search for OLD stuff quote a bit, but it seems some stuff disappears.
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I used SMS Backup & Restore in its infancy back on my Droid 1 days (2012)...and had been migrating each backup after every upgrade up to the S5. I did have a lot of success with TWRP nandroid backups, but I don't think I successfully used it to migrate to a phone upgrade; also it's not an option to the Pixel 7 anyways. Then when I transferred to the Pixel 2 from the S5, I found the transfer tool (via cord) transferred everything perfectly. I went from that to the Pixel 5 to the Pixel 7 now, and it seemed to transfer everything.
It seems the app now makes sure to backup MMS pictures and audio and other media, which it wasn't stable or fully capable back then (which is why I had stopped backing my texts up using it). But a lot of people are swearing by it and that was my go-to back in the day, so I'm sure it's a great tool for transferring texts.
I always used Verizon Messages and it used to transfer well enough, except for this time -- I doubt you use this app, not many do. Verizon Messages was able to detect all the texts, but it couldn't migrate/detect the MMS messages transferred. Again, I doubt you (or anyone) uses the app, but if you do, know that it is lacking or buggy.
I liked to use it though because it supposedly stores texts for 3 months on their server, they'll accept texts even if the device can't receive signal, and will update/resend it when the device can connect, and I kinda liked their interface and how you can apply colors to conversation bubbles...
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Hi All,
Biggest pain when wiping/restoring my phone is restoring all the text's.
I use SMS Backup & Restore/Titanium Backup and also MyBackup Pro.
All of them though seem to restore the txt's one text at a time which can take forever with a huge number of old messages.
Are there any apps out there that will just backup the whole db file and then restore it so that it takes 1 min to do a full backup/restore rather than 5hrs?
Thanks
How many messages do you have?
Quite a lot
Basically a year and a half worth (think it was around 15,000+)
I have no desire to go through them all manually and see which ones I gave a **** about and which ones are pointless, I just want to keep them all.
Not too much to ask really for a smart phone of this level.
The best way would be to make a copy of the database file whose location I gave you in your other thread. You will need a rooted phone though.
Otherwise, try GOSMS Pro. It has a backup/restore feature and took me a few minutes to do around 500 messages. 15,000 can probably be done in an hour or two I guess?
Yeah, thats what I was thinking which was why the other thread.
Just surprised that there is no app for this seeing as I'd imagine its a common task for people doing full wipes/restores etc.
Would have thought Titanium or such like would have had some option for this.
nnila said:
Yeah, thats what I was thinking which was why the other thread.
Just surprised that there is no app for this seeing as I'd imagine its a common task for people doing full wipes/restores etc.
Would have thought Titanium or such like would have had some option for this.
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It probably can, but since the data is stored with the 'com.android.providers.telephony' app, I would imagine if you backed that up (with data) and restored it, the database file would be included. I'm just not sure what that app is listed as in Titanium.
I would also vouch for GOSMS Pro. It can also easily backup all the settings and custom configuation very easily.
Now that people have had the device for a few days, I was hoping their to headstart could help potential switchers and as the SR doesn't have it's own forum yet so I'm asking here.
Newbie alert!!!!
I am wondering how easy it will be to move from the Gs2 to the skyrocket? Basically any recommended ways of moving my apps, texts, pictures, etc to the SdCARD and back from the SdCard to the new phone? Contacts are synced with Google Contacts so no problems there, my main concern is with paid apps, I'd rather not pay for them again.
Can I back up apps via TiBU and restore them on the Skyrocket? Or can I just reinstall them on the new phone?
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Paid apps are in your google account as well, you will be able to reinstall all your paid apps through the market (without repaying) by just signing in to your same google account.
The only thing you need to backup is your pictures/music.
Here's what I did to migrate to my Skyrocket from my Captivate:
*Duh Alert* Have your original phone rooted and Titanium Pro installed.
Original Phone
1. Backup APK & Data with Titanium.
2. Locate where backup directory is on your phone. Mine was \sdcard\TitaniumBackup
3. Mount original phone and copy backup directory to your computer.
New Hotness
1. Root that bad boy. Search the site, its here.
2. Install Titanium Pro from market.
3. Back up 1 app, pick something silly. That will create the backup directory.
4. Mount the new hotness and copy your saved directory from your computer to the Skyrocket.
5. Restore apps. I did one at a time cuz I didn't want everything installed on the new phone.
95% of the apps and data restored properly.
Simplistic, yes....but it works. Go forth and multiply.
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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If your just trying to backup like game saves then sometimes. A lot of times that data can be backed up by just mounting your sdcard to your computer and copying the files. Some games do save the data in funny locations so you do need (easier) to use something like Titanium, but you are always better off starting from as scratch as possible to avoid issues later.
Moving an app to save you from entering your login info for example, is just a bad idea. Most apps have no real data to backup, simple 2 second settings etc....
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If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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TiBu works great, usually, for restoring NON-System apps and their data.
Avoid restoring system apps/data.
Also, if you do happen to run into a problem with a particular restored app, all you need to do is uninstall/reinstall it and then use TiBu to restore the "data only" for that app.
This has always worked for me.
y?
Its basically the same phone, screen tiny bit bigger and it edges r round, and the. 3 faster CPU is not noticeable, and if u don't live in the handful of citys that have lte network what's the point by the time LTE gets fully activated skyrocket will be old phone something way better out, now if u didn't have the gs2 already if say hell ya but since u do wasted money IMO
I made backups of my nexus 4 apps using helium, ready to restore them to my new nexus 5.
Also used helium to make backups of the missus' apps on her galaxy s3, ready to restore them to my old nexus 4 (which she is having).
On both devices I cannot restore the backups, it says there are no backups on internal storage.
Of course now I have wiped the nexus 4 so I can't try again. What's going on?
I have seen posts from other people on this issue but I have been unable to find an actual answer. The various workarounds mentioned do not work.
I thought I might get by without rooting my new N5 this time but I did want to transfer all of my apps and data from my galaxy nexus. I gave helium a try and had exactly the same results as you had. Fortunately I hadn't wiped my galaxy nexus so I broke down and rooted the N5 and used titanium to do the transfer.
I was really surprised at how almost non-existent was the helium support community. It was a real wake-up call. I decided there was no way I could rely on this product. Support is too thin, even if it was working, to rely on it. Too bad because there is no other option for non-root full backup.
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I thought I might get by without rooting my new N5 this time but I did want to transfer all of my apps and data from my galaxy nexus. I gave helium a try and had exactly the same results as you had. Fortunately I hadn't wiped my galaxy nexus so I broke down and rooted the N5 and used titanium to do the transfer.
I was really surprised at how almost non-existent was the helium support community. It was a real wake-up call. I decided there was no way I could rely on this product. Support is too thin, even if it was working, to rely on it. Too bad because there is no other option for non-root full backup.
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Yeah, unfortunately I am not prepared to root at all so I have lucked out on that. A bit peeved that I have lost a lot of game data/progress now but it's not the end of the world, worse thing happen.
Though I will certainly not trust helium ever again...
I had similar problem when switching roms on my old phone. Something got into me and I thought I'd try Helium. Have you tried this:
1. Install the app from Play. When you backup you can usually restore when you want to immediately on the same phone.
2. Overwrite the backup of the freshly installed app with your original backup. Don't delete anything, just overwrite only backup file (the largest, I don't remember extension)
3. Restore.
You can also do backups without rooting using adb backup.
I saw that workaround somewhere around the net but when I tried it only came up with three apps to restore (out of around 30-ish) and none of those actually restored anything.
Also tried the web interface thing, which didn't work either.
Hi. I own a rooted Nexus 5 with stock ROM & kernel, unlocked bootloader and custom recovery. I wonder if I can do a Nandroid backup, then flash CyanogenMod and restore the apps data from that backup. If no, is there another way to install CyanogenMod without loosing all data? Thank you.
I guess that should work but it may lead to some issues (app crashes, etc. - not quite sure though).
I always used Titanium Backup if I wanted to do this. Some users here also advise against it but I personally never had problems (except once with SMS). I'd only backup apps that don't offer the possibility. As an example: I never did a Titanium Backup of WhatsApp since you can easily backup/restore from the app itself. For messages I used an alternative app (SMS Backup & Restore) since I had a problem with TB once. I switch from CM to a Samsung ROM and then it wasn't able to restore my dialer/messages storage. With SMS Backup & Restore it's just fine.
But for everything else (e.g. games) TB is just great
And also take use of the sync-option You never have to backup any google-stuff (like contacts or notes in Keep and stuff like that)
I tried a lot of ROMs on my old Samsung Galaxy S2 - and if you did the whole backup/restore process a few times (there are a lot of tricks that save time), you get quite familiar with it. Didn't take longer than 20 minutes for me to completely switch to another ROM
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I guess that should work but it may lead to some issues (app crashes, etc. - not quite sure though).
I always used Titanium Backup if I wanted to do this. Some users here also advise against it but I personally never had problems (except once with SMS). I'd only backup apps that don't offer the possibility. As an example: I never did a Titanium Backup of WhatsApp since you can easily backup/restore from the app itself. For messages I used an alternative app (SMS Backup & Restore) since I had a problem with TB once. I switch from CM to a Samsung ROM and then it wasn't able to restore my dialer/messages storage. With SMS Backup & Restore it's just fine.
But for everything else (e.g. games) TB is just great
And also take use of the sync-option You never have to backup any google-stuff (like contacts or notes in Keep and stuff like that)
I tried a lot of ROMs on my old Samsung Galaxy S2 - and if you did the whole backup/restore process a few times (there are a lot of tricks that save time), you get quite familiar with it. Didn't take longer than 20 minutes for me to completely switch to another ROM
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Thank you very much for your answer. I'll try an let you know.
UNROOTED!
I know titanium backup was always the best in the past but not sure if the last few years found better options for my S6 Verizon or if phones have better built-in backups. I think TB required root but i dont have that on my stupid S6 verizon. Otherwise, what other options do i have?
A guide would be appreciated, as I am afossil in the XDA world now!
I definitely want my photos/vids, my contacts (should be with google), texts, wifi/pws (thought it seems when I hit "Reset all settings" that it wiped them all, despite having "Backup to google" checked...), apps, etc all restored afterwards if possible.
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UNROOTED!
I know titanium backup was always the best in the past but not sure if the last few years found better options for my S6 Verizon or if phones have better built-in backups. I think TB required root but i dont have that on my stupid S6 verizon. Otherwise, what other options do i have?
A guide would be appreciated, as I am afossil in the XDA world now!
I definitely want my photos/vids, my contacts (should be with google), texts, wifi/pws (thought it seems when I hit "Reset all settings" that it wiped them all, despite having "Backup to google" checked...), apps, etc all restored afterwards if possible.
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Simple one I would suggest is Samsung SmartSwitch. It pretty much backsup everything.
But for example. if you have any game data stored on your device. It doesnt backup. and if it doesn't backup WhastApp chat back up data as well.
I would suggest a twrp/cwm backup is the best.
Orelse use a USB OTG pendrive to simply copy paste all the files and folders required.But you will need to restore everything
And Samsung Cloud is the best option for backup and restore as of now. For cloud services upto 15 GB after that you will have to pay for the services