Now that people have had the device for a few days, I was hoping their to headstart could help potential switchers and as the SR doesn't have it's own forum yet so I'm asking here.
Newbie alert!!!!
I am wondering how easy it will be to move from the Gs2 to the skyrocket? Basically any recommended ways of moving my apps, texts, pictures, etc to the SdCARD and back from the SdCard to the new phone? Contacts are synced with Google Contacts so no problems there, my main concern is with paid apps, I'd rather not pay for them again.
Can I back up apps via TiBU and restore them on the Skyrocket? Or can I just reinstall them on the new phone?
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Paid apps are in your google account as well, you will be able to reinstall all your paid apps through the market (without repaying) by just signing in to your same google account.
The only thing you need to backup is your pictures/music.
Here's what I did to migrate to my Skyrocket from my Captivate:
*Duh Alert* Have your original phone rooted and Titanium Pro installed.
Original Phone
1. Backup APK & Data with Titanium.
2. Locate where backup directory is on your phone. Mine was \sdcard\TitaniumBackup
3. Mount original phone and copy backup directory to your computer.
New Hotness
1. Root that bad boy. Search the site, its here.
2. Install Titanium Pro from market.
3. Back up 1 app, pick something silly. That will create the backup directory.
4. Mount the new hotness and copy your saved directory from your computer to the Skyrocket.
5. Restore apps. I did one at a time cuz I didn't want everything installed on the new phone.
95% of the apps and data restored properly.
Simplistic, yes....but it works. Go forth and multiply.
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
gheck911 said:
To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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If your just trying to backup like game saves then sometimes. A lot of times that data can be backed up by just mounting your sdcard to your computer and copying the files. Some games do save the data in funny locations so you do need (easier) to use something like Titanium, but you are always better off starting from as scratch as possible to avoid issues later.
Moving an app to save you from entering your login info for example, is just a bad idea. Most apps have no real data to backup, simple 2 second settings etc....
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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TiBu works great, usually, for restoring NON-System apps and their data.
Avoid restoring system apps/data.
Also, if you do happen to run into a problem with a particular restored app, all you need to do is uninstall/reinstall it and then use TiBu to restore the "data only" for that app.
This has always worked for me.
y?
Its basically the same phone, screen tiny bit bigger and it edges r round, and the. 3 faster CPU is not noticeable, and if u don't live in the handful of citys that have lte network what's the point by the time LTE gets fully activated skyrocket will be old phone something way better out, now if u didn't have the gs2 already if say hell ya but since u do wasted money IMO
on my 4th ROM now, comfortable with the process...but i'm still not super clear on the best way to backup.
i use titanium backup, and i have it set to batch twice a week, i go in and manually nandroid backup once a week or so, and i figured out that if i do a backup in LauncherPro (my favorite launcher) that i don't have to re-do all my screens again, just the clock widget. i also backup my bookmarks in Dolphin.
something tells me i have a bunch of unnecessary steps. can you guys streamline my process? or am i failing to understand how to use titanium (i suspect this is the case)?
appreciate any advice.
Sounds pretty good. Are you also copying off your backups to a PC or network share? That's important in case you lose your phone. Set Titanium to backup to Dropbox and do that periodically.
hmmm no i have not been backing up to PC. should i just copy the entire SD card to PC periodically? i did figure out the trick to get TIBU to synch with my dropbox without having to pay for it, though.
Nandroid backups are useless if you are swapping between ROMs, as they are pretty much a snapshot of your entire phone at the time that you create it. If you just want a complete backup of everything exactly the way it is, then this is all you need to do.
For most other purposes, Titanium Backup is all that you will need to use, it WILL backup the layout of your screen when it creates the backup for LauncherPro, so that's a wasted step. It also gives you quite granular control over how your applications are restored (and which ones). One thing to take note of is that things like SMSs and call logs may not be compatible when swapping between certain ROMs and restoring with titanium backup. To get around this, use a dedicated SMS backup utility from the market (there are plenty of free ones) since it saves the SMS and call log in a different format.
When swapping from something like gingerbread to ICS (for example), you may find that some applications WILL NOT work if you try to restore them. There really isn't any way that you can get around this, and it isn't the fault of any of your backup methods.
Also, its probably worth the five or so dollars to buy Titanium Backup, assuming you want to get the most out of your phone. There are a lot of pro only features that are quite powerful.
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hmmm no i have not been backing up to PC. should i just copy the entire SD card to PC periodically? i did figure out the trick to get TIBU to synch with my dropbox without having to pay for it, though.
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I'd just copy the nandroid backup directory to your PC periodically. The only downside is that the file is pretty big. No need to copy anything else to your PC as long as your syncing Titanium to Dropbox.
Hi there,
Short story, 2 q's:
1) Anyone know where BMA stores it's serial (or whatever you want to call the code it uses to generate it's time based passwords)
2) Anyone know where stock samsung firmware (SGS / Gingerbread) stores the SMS database?
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I've upgraded my SGS (Gingerbread) to the ICS ROM. This caused me to loose a lot. Made a nandroid backup (cwm) before proceeding and figured I would be able to get stuff back from it. Well... that's partially correct, could get some apps + settings back, some apps w/o settings and some things not at all.
There's only 2 major things left I really need. My SMS database and battle.net mobile authenticator. The authenticator was restored using appextractor or titanium backup pro. Restoration of the app went fine, but it lost it's key and is thus quite useless as I can't use it to log on.
Is there some hidden place it might store it's serial? If I can't restore it I'll have to go through a procedure to have it removed by Blizzard, which is somewhat cumbersome.
Don't want to restore an entire back-up (ie go back to gingerbread) as several apps have already been re-setup (amongst which my banking app which wasn't restored with it's data either causing me to have to re-subscribe/authenticate it and google authenticator (which btw came by out of backup fine, including it's accounts thus)).
Also am unable to find the SMS database. I have extracted the data.img with unyaffs, but there is no database under the usual com.android.providers.telephony. Samsung probably uses a custom app/location for the database, but haven't been able to find it. Neither titanium backup pro nor appextractor are able to restore the SMS's. Then again, they don't restore wireless either, but since I can just read the wifi/bcm_supp.conf file I don't really care . Just find it strange it doesn't restore whilst the file is that accessible, might be a non-default location as well however...
In case it matters, I run linux >90% of the time. Quite familiar with it, quite new to phones tho' . I do have windows so whatever tools might be required, both OS's are accessible to me.
TIA
UNROOTED!
I know titanium backup was always the best in the past but not sure if the last few years found better options for my S6 Verizon or if phones have better built-in backups. I think TB required root but i dont have that on my stupid S6 verizon. Otherwise, what other options do i have?
A guide would be appreciated, as I am afossil in the XDA world now!
I definitely want my photos/vids, my contacts (should be with google), texts, wifi/pws (thought it seems when I hit "Reset all settings" that it wiped them all, despite having "Backup to google" checked...), apps, etc all restored afterwards if possible.
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UNROOTED!
I know titanium backup was always the best in the past but not sure if the last few years found better options for my S6 Verizon or if phones have better built-in backups. I think TB required root but i dont have that on my stupid S6 verizon. Otherwise, what other options do i have?
A guide would be appreciated, as I am afossil in the XDA world now!
I definitely want my photos/vids, my contacts (should be with google), texts, wifi/pws (thought it seems when I hit "Reset all settings" that it wiped them all, despite having "Backup to google" checked...), apps, etc all restored afterwards if possible.
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Simple one I would suggest is Samsung SmartSwitch. It pretty much backsup everything.
But for example. if you have any game data stored on your device. It doesnt backup. and if it doesn't backup WhastApp chat back up data as well.
I would suggest a twrp/cwm backup is the best.
Orelse use a USB OTG pendrive to simply copy paste all the files and folders required.But you will need to restore everything
And Samsung Cloud is the best option for backup and restore as of now. For cloud services upto 15 GB after that you will have to pay for the services
My wife and I are awaiting our pixel 7 pro phones to arrive. I'd like to start the backup process and be prepared for as much of a seamless switch as possible.
She has a Galaxy note 8 and I have a rooted pixel 2xl. We will be backing up via the stock Google backup process. This gets 80%+ of what we need, but if there's a good way to backup and restore pics, messages, app data not covered under a Google backup, and more stuff I'm not thinking of I'd love to hear about it.
I've read that transferring data from the old phone to the new over the adapter and cord can make the new phone inexplicably have bad battery drain issues for a long time after the data transfer. Because of this it's recommended that over air backups be completed.
For my wife's stock Galaxy note 8 is a swift backup and restore via swfitbackup on her new p7p recommended? What are my options given I'm on a rooted phone? Is there any more thorough backup and restore I can do through swift backup, titanium backup, or other methods? The only times I've ever restored from Titanium backup it was incomplete and I was dissatisfied. I'm note sure what I did wrong.
My thread in general, but you could start with Post #7 - My personal advice for how to get your device back up and running as you had it before a factory reset
Have fun with your new phones when you get them!
Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
Its not just the cord but *any* backup that can restore things that muck up the phone, restoring settings in particular, but app data can be a problem too.
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Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
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Remove settings and apps? Did you mean app data? If I don't restore the apps there's really no point in a restore is there?
EtherealRemnant said:
Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
Its not just the cord but *any* backup that can restore things that muck up the phone, restoring settings in particular, but app data can be a problem too.
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I just want to point out that my wife and I have been restoring app data from Google's backup for 6+ years on (5? 6?) devices for each of us and have never had any problems. In two cases (only one for my wife), going to a Samsung device, and also once in each of our cases, going from a Samsung to Pixel.
Restore by cord I agree is a mistake. But just because Google's cloud restore works so much better and more complete.
For the record, I used Swift Backup (and SMS Backup) yesterday to move my apps from my 4 XL to my 7 Pro (both rooted). It worked fine. Some apps asked me to sign in again but settings remained intact for the most part.
I'll see how things are in the coming days but so far, so good.
Ghisy said:
For the record, I used Swift Backup (and SMS Backup) yesterday to move my apps from my 4 XL to my 7 Pro (both rooted). It worked fine. Some apps asked me to sign in again but settings remained intact for the most part.
I'll see how things are in the coming days but so far, so good.
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Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
Schroeder09 said:
Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
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Nah, I always use SMSBackupandRestore. This app has never let me down since the beginning of Android!
SMS Backup & Restore - Apps on Google Play
A simple app that backs up and restores SMS & MMS messages and call logs.
play.google.com
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Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
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Yes, it is. I confirm I have texts in my Google Messages app going back to December, which I recall was when I factory reset my P6P by mistake by accidentally leaving the "-w" in the flash-all.bat, and I have never been too concerned with restoring SMS since I mainly use Google Voice (which keeps things forever no matter what), so whether I allow the cloud restore of SMS when setting up a device fresh is 50/50 for me.
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SMS Backup and Restore is a 3rd party app designed to specifically backup and restore all your SMS text messages because in years past the default Google backup did not do this. I have used it many times myself. However, even though I recommend a fresh install to mitigate any potential bugs, you have stated that you have done several restores to new phones without incident. I also did a Google restore on my 7 Pro without incident AND all my texts came back automatically so it appears as if Google backup is now working properly. So go ahead and let the backup return. You "should" be OK. YMMV
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Remove settings and apps? Did you mean app data? If I don't restore the apps there's really no point in a restore is there?
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The restore would still copy over texts and call logs and such but you are correct, it would be largely a clean install. This has *always* been the recommendation when moving to a new phone. Clean slate = least amount of issues. Added bonus, you get rid of apps you don't even use anymore and get a more streamlined setup.
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I just want to point out that my wife and I have been restoring app data from Google's backup for 6+ years on (5? 6?) devices for each of us and have never had any problems. In two cases (only one for my wife), going to a Samsung device, and also once in each of our cases, going from a Samsung to Pixel.
Restore by cord I agree is a mistake. But just because Google's cloud restore works so much better and more complete.
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Cord or cloud shouldn't really matter as it should be the same settings and app data, just a faster restore with the cord and the copying of some files from storage. Not everyone has problems either but if you don't want to have to potentially set everything back up a second time, it's always good to start with a clean slate if you have the patience to do so.
Schroeder09 said:
My wife and I are awaiting our pixel 7 pro phones to arrive. I'd like to start the backup process and be prepared for as much of a seamless switch as possible.
She has a Galaxy note 8 and I have a rooted pixel 2xl. We will be backing up via the stock Google backup process. This gets 80%+ of what we need, but if there's a good way to backup and restore pics, messages, app data not covered under a Google backup, and more stuff I'm not thinking of I'd love to hear about it.
I've read that transferring data from the old phone to the new over the adapter and cord can make the new phone inexplicably have bad battery drain issues for a long time after the data transfer. Because of this it's recommended that over air backups be completed.
For my wife's stock Galaxy note 8 is a swift backup and restore via swfitbackup on her new p7p recommended? What are my options given I'm on a rooted phone? Is there any more thorough backup and restore I can do through swift backup, titanium backup, or other methods? The only times I've ever restored from Titanium backup it was incomplete and I was dissatisfied. I'm note sure what I did wrong.
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This post/topic makes me feel nostalgic....
It makes me sore for the days we could do nandroid TWRP backups (back in the days from the Pixel 2 XL, like the OP). I found, if tweaked right, those backups saved absolutely everything -- from wallpapers, icon placements, widgets, apps & settings, anything and everything! It was like a literal snapshot of the phone at the time of backup. I messed up my phone a bunch of times, and relied on those backups and would restore and would never miss a beat!
I used to swear by SMS Backup & Restore (from Droid 1 to Galaxy S5, I have texts still from 2012), but (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's not able to save MMS's and RCS (particularly & obviously, because it's totally different technology). I think it even states that in the app on its limitations...so that's something that should be considered when using that to back up -- that you may want to be sure that whatever backup method you use, it saves the MMS's (pictures, audio files, stickers, bitmoji's, etc.)....
I've found Swift is/does well enough. I could be wrong, but I don' t think it backups like Titanium though where you can have different versions and backups of the same app -- I haven't looked hard at the settings or backup, but I couldn't find a way to restore an app at different certain stages. I couldn't get the wallpaper (picture/image) to save correctly on Swift as well...But it is great at supported split apks and "extended media" like .obb files (for games I believe).... Using the phone transfer cord and Swift seems to be comparable as it seems both my messages stated to transfer 2GBs worth, while Swift compressed it to 500MB, it seemed to save the 10s of thousands of texts I have been carrying with me for a decade...
simplepinoi177 said:
This post/topic makes me feel nostalgic....
It makes me sore for the days we could do nandroid TWRP backups (back in the days from the Pixel 2 XL, like the OP). I found, if tweaked right, those backups saved absolutely everything -- from wallpapers, icon placements, widgets, apps & settings, anything and everything! It was like a literal snapshot of the phone at the time of backup. I messed up my phone a bunch of times, and relied on those backups and would restore and would never miss a beat!
I used to swear by SMS Backup & Restore (from Droid 1 to Galaxy S5, I have texts still from 2012), but (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's not able to save MMS's and RCS (particularly & obviously, because it's totally different technology). I think it even states that in the app on its limitations...so that's something that should be considered when using that to back up -- that you may want to be sure that whatever backup method you use, it saves the MMS's (pictures, audio files, stickers, bitmoji's, etc.)....
I've found Swift is/does well enough. I could be wrong, but I don' t think it backups like Titanium though where you can have different versions and backups of the same app -- I haven't looked hard at the settings or backup, but I couldn't find a way to restore an app at different certain stages. I couldn't get the wallpaper (picture/image) to save correctly on Swift as well...But it is great at supported split apks and "extended media" like .obb files (for games I believe).... Using the phone transfer cord and Swift seems to be comparable as it seems both my messages stated to transfer 2GBs worth, while Swift compressed it to 500MB, it seemed to save the 10s of thousands of texts I have been carrying with me for a decade...
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All those texts have been migrated from your various texting apps to the Google messages app you use now? That'd be awesome to retain all those. I search for OLD stuff quote a bit, but it seems some stuff disappears.
Ghisy said:
Nah, I always use SMSBackupandRestore. This app has never let me down since the beginning of Android!
SMS Backup & Restore - Apps on Google Play
A simple app that backs up and restores SMS & MMS messages and call logs.
play.google.com
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I second this. Been using this since the really really old days when it was 2 apps in the OG Android days. It can even auto backup to Google Drive everyday and restore from it just as easy.
If you have access to a computer, you could just copy everything and go through the folders bit by bit, or upload them somewhere(Google Photos, Dropbox, Mega, etc) temporarily and put them on your new device.
Whenever I clean flash my phone's, I restore text messages once in awhile but pretty much always start clean and download apps as I find the need for them rather than bulk downloading them all.
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All those texts have been migrated from your various texting apps to the Google messages app you use now? That'd be awesome to retain all those. I search for OLD stuff quote a bit, but it seems some stuff disappears.
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I used SMS Backup & Restore in its infancy back on my Droid 1 days (2012)...and had been migrating each backup after every upgrade up to the S5. I did have a lot of success with TWRP nandroid backups, but I don't think I successfully used it to migrate to a phone upgrade; also it's not an option to the Pixel 7 anyways. Then when I transferred to the Pixel 2 from the S5, I found the transfer tool (via cord) transferred everything perfectly. I went from that to the Pixel 5 to the Pixel 7 now, and it seemed to transfer everything.
It seems the app now makes sure to backup MMS pictures and audio and other media, which it wasn't stable or fully capable back then (which is why I had stopped backing my texts up using it). But a lot of people are swearing by it and that was my go-to back in the day, so I'm sure it's a great tool for transferring texts.
I always used Verizon Messages and it used to transfer well enough, except for this time -- I doubt you use this app, not many do. Verizon Messages was able to detect all the texts, but it couldn't migrate/detect the MMS messages transferred. Again, I doubt you (or anyone) uses the app, but if you do, know that it is lacking or buggy.
I liked to use it though because it supposedly stores texts for 3 months on their server, they'll accept texts even if the device can't receive signal, and will update/resend it when the device can connect, and I kinda liked their interface and how you can apply colors to conversation bubbles...