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Made a boo boo and purchased the N9005 variant and I'm a straight talk user. I'm sure you can put two and two together and realize I'm only getting 3G service. Now I'm debating to keep the phone or purchase the N900A variant? Either be patient and wait for a tutorial release where At&t's LTE bands are readable or go purchase the N900A?!
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Made a boo boo and purchased the N9005 variant and I'm a straight talk user. I'm sure you can put two and two together and realize I'm only getting 3G service. Now I'm debating to keep the phone or purchase the N900A variant? Either be patient and wait for a tutorial release where At&t's LTE bands are readable or go purchase the N900A?!
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Can't remember whether I said in your last thread or not about it, but I'll post again lol. Do you need/want 4G/LTE? - if you can live with 3G then keep it, Plus a few people testify that the Snapdragon model is the better one AND there's more in terms of development and ROMs.
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Can't remember whether I said in your last thread or not about it, but I'll post again lol. Do you need/want 4G/LTE? - if you can live with 3G then keep it, Plus a few people testify that the Snapdragon model is the better one AND there's more in terms of development and ROMs.
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Yes actually I do need the 4G for the use I put into the N9005. Where I'm located. There is no data sent over 3G network. I went to send a text yesterday and I had to downsize it because of no data.
PatienceWithin said:
Yes actually I do need the 4G for the use I put into the N9005. Where I'm located. There is no data sent over 3G network. I went to send a text yesterday and I had to downsize it because of no data.
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In that case, you kinda answered your own question. Probably better to sell up and get that old N900(A) badboy :good:
You may get lucky and find someone who wants an N9005 and has an N900A, nothing is impossible these days.
radicalisto said:
In that case, you kinda answered your own question. Probably better to sell up and get that old N900(A) badboy :good:
You may get lucky and find someone who wants an N9005 and has an N900A, nothing is impossible these days.
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Selling it wouldn't be an issue. I'm just looking for an answer "If anyone is actually looking into tweeking the N9005 to read At&t's bands or not." Why I kind of posted this question if I should keep the phone or not. Hate to sell it, two weeks later. Someone found out how to add the two bands.
The bounty for changing the bands has been up a while, now the HW does support it, but there is a reason someone/people haven't changed them (yet) - plus there is a legal side to changing frequencies in countries etc
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The bounty for changing the bands has been up a while, now the HW does support it, but there is a reason someone/people haven't changed them (yet) - plus there is a legal side to changing frequencies in countries etc
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Which is why I'm thinking with the whole legal spectrum of it. The tweek hasn't been released. :crying:
Could possibly just keep it for a rainy day and have both variants.
PatienceWithin said:
Which is why I'm thinking with the whole legal spectrum of it. The tweek hasn't been released. :crying:
Could possibly just keep it for a rainy day and have both variants.
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Indeed you could, if you can afford to have both then do so, you can play around on the 9005 variant with ROMs etc or use as a media player or a backup phone.
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Indeed you could, if you can afford to have both then do so, you can play around on the 9005 variant with ROMs etc or use as a media player or a backup phone.
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Still have yet to break her in but noticed the N900 variant. Would that be classified as the unbranded version of the variants At&t and T-Mobile are running or?
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Still have yet to break her in but noticed the N900 variant. Would that be classified as the unbranded version of the variants At&t and T-Mobile are running or?
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Yes would be similar/same as unbranded
The difference is the A and V variants have a locked bootloader - whereas the 900/9005 don't iirc
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Yes would be similar/same as unbranded
The difference is the A and V variants have a locked bootloader - whereas the 900/9005 don't iirc
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Not to sound "stupid" but I am sounding stupid. Therefore that variant would read At&t 4G/LTE? Google isn't very friendly when trying to search this.
PatienceWithin said:
Not to sound "stupid" but I am sounding stupid. Therefore that variant would read At&t 4G/LTE? Google isn't very friendly when trying to search this.
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It should do yes, unless ATT have some stupid agreement with Samsung which I doubt.
Give ATT a ring, ask them if they support the N900 to be 100%
radicalisto said:
It should do yes, unless ATT have some stupid agreement with Samsung which I doubt.
Give ATT a ring, ask them if they support the N900 to be 100%
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To kill anyone's doubts. For future readers, it does support At&t 4G/LTE.
Thanks Rad for the help!
No problem
Hi, Im looking for some understanding between the T-Mobile Nexus 5 and the Unlocked Google Play Nexus 5.
I know that it is possible that several iterations of these type of explanations have gone on buried in these forums but I don't have much time to read through and have an in-depth understanding. I plan to buy one of these two versions today or tomorrow. Can someone explain the advantages and disadvantages of owning each of them with respect to the dev community? I used to install a lot of custom roms and nightlies on my previous nexus phones. If it is seen that the unlocked version has more development (which I'm sure it does) Ill will buy that but I will be on tmobile anyway. Thanks for your time. Please don't get upset at my post, I understand why people my be upset.
As you can see by my signature, its outdated. I currently own a Moto X which has little dev support on the bootloader locked versions. Looking to get into flashing again. The reason for this post is that somehow its cheaper for me to get the T-mobile version, but If the development section is in favor of the unlocked version, then I rather spend the extra money.
They're the exact same.
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Identical. Clones. One and the same. Indistinguishable.
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Look the same even in the mirror!
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No.. one has led on the right
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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I'm getting the T-Mobile version of the Nexus 5 tomorrow while it's $0 down and it's only $50 more total than on the Play Store. But the firmware across all variants are the same bro. There all unlocked and there is no difference in all versions from all the carriers.
mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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It's the same like everyone said. Who are you gonna believe xda members in the know or Tmobile sales reps that just know how to sell?
mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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They all have 4G lte
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Nocturnal86 said:
It's the same like everyone said. Who are you gonna believe xda members in the know or Tmobile sales reps that just know how to sell?
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Lol I believe you guys, thats why I asked, T-Mo reps near me don't know anything
jbreeze228 said:
I'm getting the T-Mobile version of the Nexus 5 tomorrow while it's $0 down and it's only $50 more total than on the Play Store. But the firmware across all variants are the same bro. There all unlocked and there is no difference in all versions from all the carriers.
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Thanks guy, getting mine tomorrow as well! can't wait to start flashing again!
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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They are all the same. There are no AT&T, T-Mobile, or Spring variants. A Nexus is a Nexus, all pure Google. The T-Mobile rep that told you otherwise was lying to you to get you to buy a device at a markup from them.
mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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All I have to say is "lol... Uninformed salesmen".
They all have LTE there's no difference
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mikeacela said:
Hi, Im looking for some understanding between the T-Mobile Nexus 5 and the Unlocked Google Play Nexus 5.
I know that it is possible that several iterations of these type of explanations have gone on buried in these forums but I don't have much time to read through and have an in-depth understanding. I plan to buy one of these two versions today or tomorrow. Can someone explain the advantages and disadvantages of owning each of them with respect to the dev community? I used to install a lot of custom roms and nightlies on my previous nexus phones. If it is seen that the unlocked version has more development (which I'm sure it does) Ill will buy that but I will be on tmobile anyway. Thanks for your time. Please don't get upset at my post, I understand why people my be upset.
As you can see by my signature, its outdated. I currently own a Moto X which has little dev support on the bootloader locked versions. Looking to get into flashing again. The reason for this post is that somehow its cheaper for me to get the T-mobile version, but If the development section is in favor of the unlocked version, then I rather spend the extra money.
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Like everyone else said, it's the same phone. Google offers a subsidy on the phone when you directly buy from them, T-mobile will lose money if they do the same, so the pricing is mainly for business reasons. Go with whatever that's the cheapest for you, you won't notice any differences. Hope that helped
Only reason I'm even considering the T-mo nexus for more money is because they cancel early termination fees, and it would cost me more to buy the phone from the play store and cancel my contract with verizon. I've always been a nexus fanboy. Ive had the Nexus 1 and Galaxy nexus. I wanted to get the nexus 4 but as expected, verizon and google didn't partner for it. Now I hate verizon and am ditching lol.
mikeacela said:
Only reason I'm even considering the T-mo nexus for more money is because they cancel early termination fees, and it would cost me more to buy the phone from the play store and cancel my contract with verizon. I've always been a nexus fanboy. Ive had the Nexus 1 and Galaxy nexus. I wanted to get the nexus 4 but as expected, verizon and google didn't partner for it. Now I hate verizon and am ditching lol.
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A downside of getting it from T-Mobile is they only offer the 16gb version. Just something to take into consideration if that's not enough storage on a phone for you.
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Got my phone guys! Tmo, 16 gigs is fine for me
thanks for the help, look forward to hitting the forums
mikeacela said:
Got my phone guys! Tmo, 16 gigs is fine for me
thanks for the help, look forward to hitting the forums
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Enjoy!
Most Definitely!
Pirateghost said:
They all have 4G lte
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FYI, to reiterate, they are the same device. However, the reason for the price difference is because Google discounts the phone in the Play Store whereas T-Mobile is selling the device at the suggested retail price. It's nice to know that some carriers do allow people to own a pure Android device without carrier bloatware.
Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.
I ordered from SamsungUK.. lets see if they honor the order.
i am checking into this place.
https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
I'll wait for the Duos version a month later from start shipping, I'm using exynos galaxy/notes from the note 2 .
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It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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I'm not sure. i've never bought intl phone.
I have written to the samsung UK web page and they told me the sim free phone is "locked" to unnlocked you muts make a 5 minut call to a number but from the place the phone was intended to sell, the UK
When you do the checkout on Clove store, you can choose this option: "Samsung’s region lock stops use of this handset within your chosen country unless activated with a European SIM. I agree for Clove Technology to break the seal on the box, activate the phone and remove the region lock by completing a 5 minute call on the handset."
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It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Doubt it. Every year on release there is this region lock, but when I get my phones, they're never region locked.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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Oh this sounds more like it. I've never had to deal with region lock..
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osmosizzz said:
Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?
luch4galaxy said:
Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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No I never got Samsung pay to work on the international model. But recently I think they got it to work on the s7 edge somehow.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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PuffinNugz said:
I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?
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I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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osmosizzz said:
I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.
PuffinNugz said:
When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.
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I just did it on my Computer and you're right..its cheaper than anywhere else. I may just pick it up now
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Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
The phone says it supports: LTE Bands 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(AWS), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
And ATT Uses 2, 4, 5, 17 1900, 1700 abcde, 700 bc
So would the internation phone support ATT LTE?
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Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
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LTE works.
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LTE works.
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Thanks for the education! I usually buy TMOB as in the past they have unlocked bootloaders and LTE works on ATT. But if I read the tea leaves correctly, TMOB might be changing that for the S8. I guess no one knows for sure yet for the S8, but generally speaking, have the boot loaders on past Sammy international models usually unlocked?
Been trying to find something about this variant with no luck just got the April security update but no Android 10..
I have the T-Mobile variant (SM-T867U). I called T-Mobile and they could tell be nothing. I also read somewhere that the Verizon variant had the update rolling out maybe 2 weeks ago. It seems like the delay is with T-Mobile at this point. I also asked about being able to beta test and was told there's no option for customers to beta test with T-Mobile. Looks like we just have to wait and watch our toe nails grow.
Tmobile is always last to get any sort of update. We're usually last for updates on my S20U
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I have the T-Mobile variant (SM-T867U). I called T-Mobile and they could tell be nothing. I also read somewhere that the Verizon variant had the update rolling out maybe 2 weeks ago. It seems like the delay is with T-Mobile at this point. I also asked about being able to beta test and was told there's no option for customers to beta test with T-Mobile. Looks like we just have to wait and watch our toe nails grow.
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Yeah mine is the Sprint Variant and still nothing.. in the past with my other devices I usually always received updates before Verizon and others... Not this time around
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Tmobile is always last to get any sort of update. We're usually last for updates on my S20U
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I'm super annoyed with T-Mobile on this but saying they are always last is silly. It is such wide variance with literally every carrier. Sometimes T-Mobile seems on top of it and at other times it's ridiculously delayed. In the case of the Galaxy Tab devices, it's clear that Samsung barely keeps support going for each variant and T-Mobile has almost no focus on supporting them. That has been consistent for at least 2 years now and it has caused me to completely switch over to an iPad Pro.
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I'm super annoyed with T-Mobile on this but saying they are always last is silly. It is such wide variance with literally every carrier. Sometimes T-Mobile seems on top of it and at other times it's ridiculously delayed. In the case of the Galaxy Tab devices, it's clear that Samsung barely keeps support going for each variant and T-Mobile has almost no focus on supporting them. That has been consistent for at least 2 years now and it has caused me to completely switch over to an iPad Pro.
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When it comes to the major 4 carriers in the US, the Tmobile variant is always last to get every firmware update. Verizon is usually first, and Tmobile is mostly always last
Hi i got the tab s6 from tmobile and i have doubts if is a good idea to flash it firmware to international or other variant of it?
Still waiting for Tmobile ?
Still waiting on tmobile too anyone has patched the German or UK firmware on their tab s6 just want to know if the LTE Bands works here fine the bans is my only concern here ?????
I'm guessing we aren't getting it
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Yep. Disgusted with the lack of security updates for the Tab S6. You pay 725 with Tnobile and get an outdated tablet and just stays outdated. This is a shame. They should be charging cheaper for an outdated tablet.
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Damn, I really wished I researched this before latching on to TMobile for S6. Didn't realize a lack of root for this tablet was in at as well. Oh well. Hopefully a solution will happen soon enough
Downloaded the UK and German version and attempted to install with ODIN, patched and unpatched. Got a Fail each time.
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Wish we at least get a SM-T867U1 version so we could get an unbranded Tab.
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I spoke with tech support the other day and they said they've already received numerous calls. She said she made a note and emailed the team to find out what the hold up is. So hopefully soon we receive the update. Its a shame to pay 725 for an outdated tablet with no support.
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This was a lie from support. They didn’t do anything whatsoever without giving you some sort of issue tracking number. They say all sorts of BS to appease customers
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Yep. Kinda figured that. It was funny though. At first she was like," android 10 is the firmware on the device and was pushed out." Then when she checked again she was like, " sorry, Samsung hasn't pushed the update." Then in which I told her that wasn't true because it has been pushed and tmobile hasn't released it. Im just irritated that we pay 725 for it and its outdated. Tmobile shouldn't be doing that kind of crap.
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Yeah man, it's freakin disappointing. I'm still within my 14 day return, so I definitely been thinking about that....
I can't even root the thing because there's no OEM unlock in the developer settings
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I spoke with tech support the other day and they said they've already received numerous calls. She said she made a note and emailed the team to find out what the hold up is. So hopefully soon we receive the update. Its a shame to pay 725 for an outdated tablet with no support.
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Yeah man, it's freakin disappointing. I'm still within my 14 day return, so I definitely been thinking about that....
I can't even root the thing because there's no OEM unlock in the developer settings
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Return it! Seriously. It is definitely not worth the price because even Samsung barely maintains tablet support. All of their focus is on a new tablet to compete with iPad Pro anyway.
Regret getting mine bow from Tmobile. I'm just going to pay it off and sell it for the new iPad
It's released
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/28/samsung-galaxy-tab-s6-android-10/
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Regret getting mine bow from Tmobile. I'm just going to pay it off and sell it for the new iPad
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Getting it now
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Now people can stop crying about updates
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BROKEN1981 said:
Now people can stop crying about updates
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It's not about "crying" so to speak.
It's about paying $700+ for a machine that should be kept up to date with the latest software
Has anyone tried the A71 root method for the 5g variant?
Dtox88 said:
Has anyone tried the A71 root method for the 5g variant?
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Waiting to hear this myself.
A71 4G uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon 730
A71 5G uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon 765
Possible the same method works, but with different CPUs, not a guarantee.
I think a few other phones may be using that chipset, so there is some hope!
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@Dtox88
The T-Mobile US version just got an update as of 07/13/20:
Just an FYI in case you have this version & are wanting to stay on the original firmware/bootloader.
KOLIOSIS said:
@Dtox88
The T-Mobile US version just got an update as of 07/13/20:
Just an FYI in case you have this version & are wanting to stay on the original firmware/bootloader.
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Thanks for the heads up. Getting it now.
Dtox88 said:
Thanks for the heads up. Getting it now.
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Was looking at this phone for the half-price promo. Enjoyed my LG G7, but it's time for a bigger screen (argh, age eats your eyes).
The G7 from TMO never got cracked, the over variants did. I'm not optimistic for a bootloader unlock on this one for that reason. Still, it looks like a great phone for $300 and tax, unlocked or not.
That would be disappointing. I haven't been on a locked device since the S2. Hoping the promo builds enough interest. So far I'm enjoying the phone.
steven.rn said:
Was looking at this phone for the half-price promo. Enjoyed my LG G7, but it's time for a bigger screen (argh, age eats your eyes).
The G7 from TMO never got cracked, the over variants did. I'm not optimistic for a bootloader unlock on this one for that reason. Still, it looks like a great phone for $300 and tax, unlocked or not.
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FWIW, Package Disabler Pro works on this phone.
I know this was likely a given, but, just wanted to put it out there.
The package disabler & Good Lock options make for a great phone, whether you get it for half-price or not.
I had the S10e for a brief period & I'd take this phone over it all day long. Performance is equal to or better & the addition of 5G & a lot smaller hole-punch & this one wins hands-down.
If nothing else, order it via telesales & if you're not impressed, return it within the buyer's remorse period to avoid a restocking fee that you'd be charged if you did the same buying in-store.
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FWIW, Package Disabler Pro works on this phone.
I know this was likely a given, but, just wanted to put it out there.
The package disabler & Good Lock options make for a great phone, whether you get it for half-price or not.
I had the S10e for a brief period & I'd take this phone over it all day long. Performance is equal to or better & the addition of 5G & a lot smaller hole-punch & this one wins hands-down.
If nothing else, order it via telesales & if you're not impressed, return it within the buyer's remorse period to avoid a restocking fee that you'd be charged if you did the same buying in-store.
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Picked it up at a local Tmobile brick store.
Love it.
Excellent photos, the camera updates came thru today with the ROM version update. Very configurable, also loving popping the thing into 64mp mode for detail- there's a lot to play with. 5g works well.
This was a steal at 300 bucks (I just happened to have to add a line.)
The Mrs. just got the OnePlus 7T, and I liked it so much I thought about the OnePlus 8 5G from Tmo, but I think I'd have to get the OnePlus 8 Pro to get a camera this good.
Mostly, I've always gone for top of the line phones, mostly for the gee whiz factor. But the top of the line at 1399 absolutely just isn't worth the extra oomph to me anymore.
Yah, the speaker could be better, but who listens to music without headphones or a decent Bluetooth speaker, really... this comes great through my UE Boom.
Couldn't be happier. The fast charging is so good I don't care about wireless charging, I can't exhaust the battery in a day anyway.
Thanks for the good steer!
I've tried to flash Magisk onto the US version, but it just wouldn't work. Could be because I can't find the OEM unlock switch. Any ideas?
SuperKidoftheStars said:
I've tried to flash Magisk onto the US version, but it just wouldn't work. Could be because I can't find the OEM unlock switch. Any ideas?
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Whether you use the direct method (which sounds like what you tried) or use a custom recovery to flash Magisk...I think either way you need an unlocked bootloader, which we don't have yet.
I would gladly pay a reasonable sum for a solution
to unlock the bootloader/root/unlock this device.
It's a fine device for my own use, and seems to be among the higher-end devices.
SkedAddled said:
I would gladly pay a reasonable sum for a solution
to unlock the bootloader/root/unlock this device.
It's a fine device for my own use, and seems to be among the higher-end devices.
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Yeah, I'm annoyed I'm having to do without root. I rooted the first Android phone (G1) back in 2008 and have had rooted phones ever since.
My last phone was a Note4 that I rooted straight out of the box and kept it for 6 years.
So I'm keeping my fingers crossed and (im)patiently waiting.
It looks like Samsung phones are dead locked.
The last Samsung phone was Note 3 and no more.
The first 5G phone will be Moto Edge.
I was offered A71 but I refused it
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It looks like Samsung phones are dead locked.
The last Samsung phone was Note 3 and no more.
The first 5G phone will be Moto Edge.
I was offered A71 but I refused it
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Let's me address some of those statements there:
My previous phone was a Note 4 that I rooted the second it came out if the box in 2014....and had it for 6 years. I can personally assure you the Note 3 was not the last Samsung phone to be rooted.
The exploit required to root the Note 9 & S9 was found in Jan 2020.
And lastly, the A71 (previous non 5G version) has been rooted and instructions are available in the forum for that phone.
This one will get root, its just likely to take 4-6 months for someone to figure it out like nearly every other phone out there.
The A71 5G is a new phone only on the market a few weeks. It will get there.
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Let's me address some of those statements there:
My previous phone was a Note 4 that I rooted the second it came out if the box in 2014....and had it for 6 years. I can personally assure you the Note 3 was not the last Samsung phone to be rooted.
The exploit required to root the Note 9 & S9 was found in Jan 2020.
And lastly, the A71 (previous non 5G version) has been rooted and instructions are available in the forum for that phone.
This one will get root, its just likely to take 4-6 months for someone to figure it out like nearly every other phone out there.
The A71 5G is a new phone only on the market a few weeks. It will get there.
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And the A71 was a US model?
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And the A71 was a US model?
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It was not. Europe & Asia only, but plenty of people in the US bought unlocked ones. I almost did myself since it was less than half the price and has already been rooted. But I didn't want to wait the 2 weeks to receive it and the 5G had just gone on sale.
The reason the A71 5G was introduced in the US market was because if I had walked into a carrier store in May, my choice of Samsung phones was either:
1) a flagship product with a 4-digit price tag
or
2) a sub $200 budget phone.
The A series filled in the midrange gap in Samsung products rather than forcing me to an LG, HTC, or Moto product.
KOLIOSIS said:
FWIW, Package Disabler Pro works on this phone.
I know this was likely a given, but, just wanted to put it out there.
The package disabler & Good Lock options make for a great phone, whether you get it for half-price or not.
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Holy smokes, thank you! I was skeptical on it working without root, but you're right, it's night and day. I think I have 3x more apps disabled than I have installed. The fact that you can get rid of idiotic stuff like Bixby is worth the 3 bucks right there!
I am currently looking into bootloader unlock and root method for all US Models.
I have combination firmware and stock firmware and am digging through them currently to see if an exploit is available
allenjthomsen said:
I am currently looking into bootloader unlock and root method for all US Models.
I have combination firmware and stock firmware and am digging through them currently to see if an exploit is available
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So have you found anything which may be a way in?
Yours is the first feedback which seems to show promise, at least on the surface.
so far all the old methods have been patched in both bootloader and boot.img so i am trying to see if i can escalate privlages on the combination firmware to be able to bypass a few CVE patchs and hopefully gain root to system or get the bootloader to unlock.
small update i would need engineering firmware for me to be able to crack the firmware and a engineering token so unless you happen to work at samsung and are willing to lose your job then unless someone more able than me is willing to take a crack at it im at an impass.