Was upgrading to the Note 10+ and saw the BOGO offer and also, if you order online, you get $150 Visa Gift card... After looking further, and calling AT&T Directly, I found out that those two promos only apply if you add a new line or are a new customer. Is that the same across the board with all carriers or just with AT&T?
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Was upgrading to the Note 10+ and saw the BOGO offer and also, if you order online, you get $150 Visa Gift card... After looking further, and calling AT&T Directly, I found out that those two promos only apply if you add a new line or are a new customer. Is that the same across the board with all carriers or just with AT&T?
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Verizon was the same. Only the BOGO offer if you add a new line. And Verizon was only going to give me $400 trade-in for my S10+. I preordered through Best Buy and they gave me $600 for my trade-in. Preorder bonuses/gifts suck this time around.
My wife and I are both T users and we both were looking to upgrade - until all the details were released last night.
My prior phones were rooted while my Wife bought a phone from T. I have been debating if I still need a rooted phone or not. The main things the custom XDA roms provide me is availability to use AdBlocker, Hotspot, and of course access to the lastest ROMs and features at the sacrifice of getting the latest and greatest T CSC.
But now I see that the "5G' model is not available on T. It might come out later in the year. But it will locked to T. Getting a 5G phone was a good justification to upgrade even though there will NEVER be 5G service in the sticks where I live.
We think we will hold off for now.
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My wife and I are both T users and we both were looking to upgrade - until all the details were released last night.
My prior phones were rooted while my Wife bought a phone from T. I have been debating if I still need a rooted phone or not. The main things the custom XDA roms provide me is availability to use AdBlocker, Hotspot, and of course access to the lastest ROMs and features at the sacrifice of getting the latest and greatest T CSC.
But now I see that the "5G' model is not available on T. It might come out later in the year. But it will locked to T. Getting a 5G phone was a good justification to upgrade even though there will NEVER be 5G service in the sticks where I live.
We think we will hold off for now.
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And the T-Mobile version will be an upgraded phone with the Qualcomm x55 modem. It will support more bands and downward compatible. Consume less power I'll give you a better 5G experience.
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And the T-Mobile version will be an upgraded phone with the Qualcomm x55 modem. It will support more bands and downward compatible. Consume less power I'll give you a better 5G experience.
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But the US Snapdragon phone are locked and since you won't have root you cannot change the CSC from TMOB to T like you could years ago? Or are you saying you can use the TMOB 5G model on T?
Verizon is giving me 450 off an old Note 8 sitting around here and the 150 dollar credit with Samsung. I didn't qualify for the BOGO, but I'm satisfied.
Take a look at Best Buy, I got $600 off trade-in for my AT&T S10+
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Note: I take no responsibility if you try this and it doesn't work for you...
So this was totally accidental. But I essentially bought my Note 5 for $300 after trading in two other devices for it. I ordered the note 5 on the edge plan so I could take advantage of the $200 device trade-in. As soon as I got the phone, I paid off the remaining balance so that my monthly fee essentially stayed the same (actually, it somehow got cheaper). In essence, I bought the phone outright for $496 plus tax.
But then about a week or so later, I received a text message saying "Congratulations on buying a new Note 5, you are now eligible for a $200 trade-in" along with a promo code to enter at their website. Mind you, I was skeptical at first since I already traded a phone in, but I went ahead and gave it a shot anyway figuring I've got nothing to lose. I went to the website and put in the promo code (the value of my trade-in device jumped from $1 to $200 lol), received the packaging material in the mail, sent in a pos phone, and received a $200 verizon gift card. This brought my total out of pocket with tax down to $330 for a brand new Note 5. My next step is convincing them to unlock it as I will be doing a lot of international travelling and if they think I'm going to be paying Verizon international roaming fees they are out of their damn minds.
So while I hate Verizon for locking bootloaders, disabling features, and blocking Samsung pay, along with all of their other gimmicks, I am at least a little internally satisfied that I DID get my money's worth on this particular phone. Thank you Verizon. You still suck!
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I did something similar. About to send in my m7 and s3
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Verizon phones are globally unlocked now I believe. Has been that way for a while now.
This has been true for the past few releases since the note 2. However nobody I have talked to at Verizon has been able to give me a straight answer on whether or not the note 5 is factory unlocked which raises my suspicion. In the past, that information was readily available and was actually used as a selling point.
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I got the same text. I wish I had a junk smartphone laying around. I thought about buying a phone on ebay, but didn't want to take the risk.
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This has been true for the past few releases since the note 2. However nobody I have talked to at Verizon has been able to give me a straight answer on whether or not the note 5 is factory unlocked which raises my suspicion. In the past, that information was readily available and was actually used as a selling point.
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It is def unlocked. Verizon was forced to unlock all LTE phones. It was part of an agreement for frequencies or bands.
Due to Lte 700 Mhz C block rules, the Verizon LTE phones have been sim/carrier unlocked.
That doesn't mean it supports all LTE bands though. You have to check the bands the phones support if you want to use them on another carrier.
I found this cool website willmyphonework.net. to check for frequencies in various countries.
Verizon Note 5 is sim unlocked but i believe they have Knox locked. Meaning you cant root the device and install custom ROMs.
This worked for me!
Thanks!
If you are on one of old's Verizon plan, I am on 1400 family plan, then I upgraded my wife's and my sister in law's phones to note 5 through Costco in California and they signed 2 years contract and got the phones subsidized at $277 including tax with free external charger. I didn't lose my unlimited data either when they upgraded.
I have edge plus that I bought at full price from best buy
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I'm looking to purchase the S7 at full price without any catch. I was looking into T-Mobile but need to purchase a plan with the phone and needs to be activated for 40 days for them to unlock it.
Apparently US Cellular has the lowest price currently; are they known to lock bootloaders? I use Cricket so I only need a phone that uses AT&T network if I can't sim unlock it.
Cricket has finally added a banner to their website for the S7. No details yet if they will have them on launch day or not, price should be the same as anywhere. https://www.cricketwireless.com/samsung-galaxy-s7.html
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Cricket has finally added a banner to their website for the S7. No details yet if they will have them on launch day or not, price should be the same as anywhere
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Thanks but I was hoping to pre-order for the headset.
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Thanks but I was hoping to pre-order for the headset.
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you could try clove or handtec. ships from UK. I've done this for the xperia series before and they worked perfect on ATT. Clove has mention of samsung locking their phones since 2013 though. May want to read everything carefully and make sure you know what you're getting into. I really wanted to do this as well. I hate the ATT bloatware. ATT address book and yellow pages drive me insane!
As the title would suggest, I going give my opinion on buying S9+. Again this is my experience and my opinions. I understand most of the community here is smart and don't need financial advice about how to spend their cash. I'll try to break it down into parts so people understand my opinion. So let's start:
So as many as you know S9 and S9+ was release 3/16/2018. There is 2 version of this phone you can get bloat or no bloatware. What do I mean? In San Diego where I live, my carrier is AT&T. They sell the S9+ at $789.99 if you do one of their payments plans. However if you want buy the device out right then the price is $940.99 this is the att version. I believe the same for Verizon and Tmoblie. But Tmoblie sell it at $839.99. If you are willing g to buy the unlocked version without carrier then it $839.99 however you have to buy it from a retailer like bestbuy or amazon.
My suggestion is to buy the phone out right and unlocked. The main reason is there is no bloatware. If you buy carrier version of the device out right from they add $100 more just to have bloatware. There is no difference hardware specs on the device. So why pay more just to have the carrier bloatware?
Now if that is not an option and you want to make payments, still buy the unlocked version and do payments with credit card. If you cant do that and you have to go thru your carrier then understand the payment plan and I advise against it. Right now all of the major carriers have deal where you can trade in your old Samsung up to $350 towards the S9 & + and its good. The catch is that credit goes towards your bill and not the device. That is crazy. Plus they give you an $150 Visa gift card. So in reality they are only giving $150 for the phone. I'm talking about AT&T. I'm pretty sure it's the same for the other carriers as well. Now my advice is to sell your device yourself and use that money towards the phone or come with at least half when you upgrade setup the payments wait a bill cycle and payoff the other half.
Honesty, buying this phone unlocked is the way to go. There is no reason to buy the carrier version since they just add bloatware and slow down performance. Plus you have the option of leaving your current carrier if they **** up your bill or there is a better deal out there.
I bought the ATT carrier locked version. The only "bloat" I see is a couple of games which I was able to uninstall. Not just deactivate, but actually uninstall. The ATT apps themselves I either uninstalled or use. Again, not disable but uninstall.
If you have the money to buy unlocked, good for you. However, the payment plans are 0% interest. Buying a 800-900 dollar phone on credit, your now paying more than what your claiming to save by buying it unlocked. Again, all the "bloat" I've noticed is uninstallable. On my last phone you could only disable them.
In my case I was able to sell my old device and only pay the difference. I considered just going through the carrier. Honestly I don't want to be held to a two year contract of paying off the device. Your right, buying a device on credit compaired to the carrier is cheaper with 0% interest. That not always going to be the case in the future. Again I'm just suggesting there options out there.
Certain cards, like best buys, offer 0% over 12 months. I upgrade every year with that and sell past generations phone and it covers about ⅔ the cost of the new phone
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Though this doesn't apply to everyone, I agree with OP on going the unlocked route to ensure faster official updates directly from Samsung. I am actually going a step further and getting international unlocked model (with unlocked bootloader) as I can't imagine buying a phone that has manufacturer/carrier enforced locked boot loader.
Not really followed the Galaxy Series as of late but I'm thinking of importing the SD 845 variant (for emulation) and wondering how long until bootoader can be unlocked? Would love project treble ROMs on it.
And does the Google camera work on the SD 845 variant?
There are ups and downs to each way of doing it. Though you mention the upside of doing unlocked, there is a downside if you want to use some functions too.
One upside you didn't mention on the unlocked versions is you get the Caller ID function stock! Most carriers will charge $3 a month for their "supreme" service.
Downside of doing unlocked is you might miss out on additional carrier features as well.
- HD Calling (hit and miss on this odd one at least with Verizon on past phones)
- Wifi / VoLTE Calling
- Hotspot (there can be work around to this)
So spending a thousand plus on a phone that won't take advantage of the network doesn't seem like a good decision to me. Even the Verizon version with 5G is first generation. The Qualcomm chip x55 is due out in the next few months. The question is do I jump the gun and and get a phone that is at launch behind the times. I read an interview where the CEO of T-Mobile said they are waiting for a version with the x55 chip which will make it more compatible with their Network and give a better experience to the end user.
I'm leaning towards waiting instead of jumping the gun. I think Samsung should have waited to truly make the phone second to none.
I know I'm going to be pissed when no 5G version comes out for T-Mobile. I'm not willing to jump to Verizon to be on a first-generation network that is already out outdated
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I'm on T-Mobile. I saw no reason to spend an extra $200 on 5G. Not yet. Maybe the Note 11.
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I'm on T-Mobile. I saw no reason to spend an extra $200 on 5G. Not yet. Maybe the Note 11.
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I don't see a reason to switch my phone. I have a Note 8 I skipped the note 9 to wait for the Note 10. But with that Hefty price tag I want to be sure that I have the latest and greatest. Knowing that new hardware is coming in a few months makes me want to wait.
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I don't see a reason to switch my phone. I have a Note 8 I skipped the note 9 to wait for the Note 10. But with that Hefty price tag I want to be sure that I have the latest and greatest. Knowing that new hardware is coming in a few months makes me want to wait.
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I upgrade every year, but I never pay full price. I sold a couple phones to pay for my 512GB Note 9, which I bought used. Well. It was used. But the guy just received it as an insurance claim, so it had actually never been used. I took all the factrou plastic off of it. But I only paid $700 for it in November of last year.
Here's how I'm getting the Note 10+ for basically free:
Sold my 512GB Note 9 for $585.
Bought a 128GB Note 9 for $400.
So I had a 128GB Note 9 plus $185 in my pocket.
Traded THAT Note 9 in on a Note 10+ and Samsung gave me $600 for it. (that's a $200 profit).
Samsung also gave me a $200 Samsung Gift card for reserving and preordering.
I signed up for a credit card that gives me $200 cash back, which I can apply to my cc bill, if I spend $1,000 in the first three months. I put the Note 10+ and some motorcycle parts on it that I wanted anyway, and have already spent $1,000. Cash back is on its way.
So I'll break it down:
Aura Glow Note 10+ $1,100
Sales Tax ~ $31
Trade in 128GB Note 9 -$600
Note 10+ purchase price $531
Cash from 512 N9 sale -$185
Cash back from CC -$200
Total cost of Note 10+ $146
So I have invested $146 in a new phone. But in September, I'll use my $200 Samsung gift card to buy the new Gear Active 2. It starts at $200, so it will basically be free. I don't need it, so I will sell it for maybe $175.
Note 10+ $146
Sell watch -$175
PROFIT $29
I am waiting for the note 10+ 5g to come out. I was disappointed again that verizon got the exclusive for it but i do wonder if its the x50 or x55. There are no specific specs that confirm it. Or maybe i just didnt look too closely.
Like you said, maybe the other carriers were trying to get x55 modem instead.
I will be really disappointed if the later note 5g doesnt come with x55 and it is the same x50.
At this moment, i highly doubt that they will put the x55. I am hoping that they will do though. I really want to use my 2 yr contract upgrade when the time comes.
For $1200 I'm waiting, either for a 5G model or if my current Note 8 breaks, I'll break down and buy the 4G version.
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I am waiting for the note 10+ 5g to come out. I was disappointed again that verizon got the exclusive for it but i do wonder if its the x50 or x55. There are no specific specs that confirm it. Or maybe i just didnt look too closely.
Like you said, maybe the other carriers were trying to get x55 modem instead.
I will be really disappointed if the later note 5g doesnt come with x55 and it is the same x50.
At this moment, i highly doubt that they will put the x55. I am hoping that they will do though. I really want to use my 2 yr contract upgrade when the time comes.
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From what I've been reading that seems to be the plan they're waiting for the x55 to be incorporated into the Note 10. Which should happen towards the end of the year.
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From what I've been reading that seems to be the plan they're waiting for the x55 to be incorporated into the Note 10. Which should happen towards the end of the year.
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Hopefully.
I did look up the fcc site for the verizon model and it only uses the nr bands n260 and n261. So maybe it uses only the mmwaves. It could be x50
Are you thinking of waiting for the 5g model?
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Hopefully.
I did look up the fcc site for the verizon model and it only uses the nr bands n260 and n261. So maybe it uses only the mmwaves. It could be x50
Are you thinking of waiting for the 5g model?
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Oh I've read many articles saying that the Verizon version is using the older x 50. Verizon's business model is to show market dominance but I'm assuming and I feel they jumped the gun cuz I read they had all kinds of issues with their 5G service. The x55 will support multiple bands and multiple protocols. When T-Mobile and Sprint merge they're going to have three bands of 5G service. Apparently the higher the frequency the more obstructions will affect the signal strength another words buildings Etc. TMobile has a 600 megahertz band and Sprint has a 2.4 and I believe they both have a band which is similar to Verizon.
Verizon's just flexing their muscle trying to show market dominance. And it will probably work judging by the number of people that are pre-ordering. There's no exclusivity TMobile AT&T and Sprint just decided to wait for a better chip.
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Oh I've read many articles saying that the Verizon version is using the older x 50. Verizon's business model is to show market dominance but I'm assuming and I feel they jumped the gun cuz I read they had all kinds of issues with their 5G service. The x55 will support multiple bands and multiple protocols. When T-Mobile and Sprint merge they're going to have three bands of 5G service. Apparently the higher the frequency the more obstructions will affect the signal strength another words buildings Etc. TMobile has a 600 megahertz band and Sprint has a 2.4 and I believe they both have a band which is similar to Verizon.
Verizon's just flexing their muscle trying to show market dominance. And it will probably work judging by the number of people that are pre-ordering. There's no exclusivity TMobile AT&T and Sprint just decided to wait for a better chip.
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Samsung has already confirmed that the Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G will come to AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint once its temporary exclusivity period with Verizon ends. All three carriers sell the Galaxy S10 5G.
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Oh I've read many articles saying that the Verizon version is using the older x 50. Verizon's business model is to show market dominance but I'm assuming and I feel they jumped the gun cuz I read they had all kinds of issues with their 5G service. The x55 will support multiple bands and multiple protocols. When T-Mobile and Sprint merge they're going to have three bands of 5G service. Apparently the higher the frequency the more obstructions will affect the signal strength another words buildings Etc. TMobile has a 600 megahertz band and Sprint has a 2.4 and I believe they both have a band which is similar to Verizon.
Verizon's just flexing their muscle trying to show market dominance. And it will probably work judging by the number of people that are pre-ordering. There's no exclusivity TMobile AT&T and Sprint just decided to wait for a better chip.
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Yea i believe that.
Verizon had always that mentality that they are comfortable in their position and their customers would care less.
In the 5g service, they didnt take in account of real world physics.
They will be in trouble once tmobile and sprint merges. Their combined spectrum and technology is def much better.
My theory on merging complications is that att and verizon are trying to stop it behind the lines.
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Oh I am sure they're coming out with the 5G model the question is will it be the second generation chip which is the Qualcomm x 55 not the x 50.
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Oh I am sure they're coming out with the 5G model the question is will it be the second generation chip which is the Qualcomm x 55 not the x 50.
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From tech republic:
Likewise, CNET reports that the*Galaxy Note 10+ 5G for AT&T and T-Mobile will use the second-generation Qualcomm X55 modem. The newer modem is anticipated to address power consumption and heat dissipation issues, though those models "will only be able to access their sub-6Ghz networks, not their millimeter wave service." Sub-6 GHz frequencies will not be able to deliver the headline-making speeds,*though will deliver more consistent coverage.
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Oh I am sure they're coming out with the 5G model the question is will it be the second generation chip which is the Qualcomm x 55 not the x 50.
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I'm not certain. I won't buy a 5G phone this year regardless of the chip. I was more referencing the statement that Verizon doesn't have exclusivity. Samsung claims they do. I opted for the Note 10+. I'd rather not have spotty 5G switching on and off destroying my battery. I will wait until it matures a bit.
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I'm not certain. I won't buy a 5G phone this year regardless of the chip. I was more referencing the statement that Verizon doesn't have exclusivity. Samsung claims they do. I opted for the Note 10+. I'd rather not have spotty 5G switching on and off destroying my battery. I will wait until it matures a bit.
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I agree with you 100% I might even wait for the note 11 even if the Note 10 later on this year comes with the x55 let them work out the bugs I don't want to be the guinea pig with the phone that chews up batteries and has spotty coverage. I think T-Mobile AT&T and Sprint made a good move passing on the 5G variant. Verizon's just going to market the hell out of it making it seem like we're the only carrier with 5G phones that work when in fact you're using a first generation I go as far as to say beta testing 5G network.
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I agree with you 100% I might even wait for the note 11 even if the Note 10 later on this year comes with the x55 let them work out the bugs I don't want to be the guinea pig with the phone that chews up batteries and has spotty coverage. I think T-Mobile AT&T and Sprint made a good move passing on the 5G variant. Verizon's just going to market the hell out of it making it seem like we're the only carrier with 5G phones that work when in fact you're using a first generation I go as far as to say beta testing 5G network.
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Yeah, I'm not a real fan of being a beta tester when I have to pay 1380 dollars for the privilege.
Someone is selling the Korean 5G Variant of the Note 10 - supposedly LTE will work on ATT - but will the 5G work on ATT when ATT Launches 5G ? Just curious....
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Someone is selling the Korean 5G Variant of the Note 10 - supposedly LTE will work on ATT - but will the 5G work on ATT when ATT Launches 5G ? Just curious....
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I think it depends if its international unlocked.
I never used international phones in the usa recently so im not entirely sure.
I think that each country or region has its own 5g bands. Korea uses diff 5g bands than the usa.
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Someone is selling the Korean 5G Variant of the Note 10 - supposedly LTE will work on ATT - but will the 5G work on ATT when ATT Launches 5G ? Just curious....
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@Geekser Linky please? This might possibly be a better than what I was looking at from Clove in the UK.
sunmybun said:
Yea i believe that.
Verizon had always that mentality that they are comfortable in their position and their customers would care less.
In the 5g service, they didnt take in account of real world physics.
They will be in trouble once tmobile and sprint merges. Their combined spectrum and technology is def much better.
My theory on merging complications is that att and verizon are trying to stop it behind the lines.
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Verizon won't be in trouble when T-Mobile and Sprint merges. T-Mobile and Sprint customers will be in trouble. Its going to take years to combine the two networks and I expect pricing to increase as they try to be a premier carrier.
I purchased a Note 20 ultra verizon that was supposed to be paid off. I popped my tmobile simcard into, i get 4g lte and am able to make calls. For some reason the firmware didn't reboot with T-Mobile firmware and I am not getting 5g. Can someone please help?
Its not that simple, you have to flash the proper firmware
Just being paid off is the least of your worries. The scam what they do is as follows. Sell you their phone then claim it's lost or stolen. They pay their deductible and get another phone. Yours will get blacklisted a month or two down the line .
Going back to your question. The firmware doesn't currently support carrier rebranding switching It will probably a few months down the line like other Samsung's have. Approx 4 to 6 months in life cycle. So to achieve what you want now, do what the other guy just said.