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Samsung Omnia Pro!!!!

A device has now been tested www.gsmarena.com/samsung_b7610_omniapro-review-378.php
What are your thoughts? Is this a match for the TP2?
I hate to say it, but im swayed by this device to move away from HTC until they bring the next touch/keyboard device (TP3?)

I still prefer TP2!
The only point I can see is not better is in processor, but I´ll wait patiently to see the 09-10 HTC new models!

ooh i dont know that seems prettty nice.... but since its probably not coming to tmobile here in the us i think i have no choice but to go iwth the touch pro 2, it will probably go to Verizon cause they where the only one to get the last omnia

A match? To be honest, I'm not seeing how the Touch Pro 2 is supposed to be better or even equal to a phone that has an AMOLED screen and 800Mhz Cortex A8 processor. The B7610 even beats the TP2 in little things like camera and ROM storage amount.

steve7702 said:
A device has now been tested www.gsmarena.com/samsung_b7610_omniapro-review-378.php
What are your thoughts? Is this a match for the TP2?
I hate to say it, but im swayed by this device to move away from HTC until they bring the next touch/keyboard device (TP3?)
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That's old news... I was not impressed.

Im so impatient, I dont think I can wait til the next version of the Touch Pro is available. The TP2 has only just been released and therefore its probably going to be another 12 months.
The fact the Samsung is lighter, better screen, camera (inc flash), I have to admit im tempted

.... and you have Samsung build quality which is, in my experience, awesome..... unlike my experience of HTC's which is frankly, awefull.
You will be able to get many cooked roms over at omnia.modaco.com and you will get just as much support from them and here when combined.
i'm gutted I bought my Acer m900 only to THEN find out about the Omnia Pro (the acers great but ....)

poetryrocksalot said:
That's old news... I was not impressed.
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It was dated "GSMArena team, 20 July 2009. " .... i'd hardly call that old!

I used to have a Touch HD and video performance was a letdown. Don't get me wrong the HD is a magnificent device, but not being able to watch videos as they should be on this great screen was dissapointing. I tried many different encoders, like doctor divx, nero recode and the encoder made for this device but none of them gave me satisfiyng results. Especially considering that I had to REENCODE a complete movie, this process could easily take several hours. Many tweaks drivers etc never gave me full satisfaction. I made tons of little clips to test the best possible performance for the least amount of encoding time and my findigs were that my best option was to reencode with Nero at a maximum resolution of 524 and max bitrate of 700 and selecting Quicktime compatibility for the MPEG ASP. So I ended up with tons of clips, each time trying wich is the best. The following things were particularly frustrating.
- No out of the box divx/xvid support
- playback of divx/xvid with coreplayer or any other 3rd party player was slow and laggy
- No standard MPEG 4 ASP support, for example videos recorded on other devices like Nokia's wouldn't play. Also many programs would create incompatible mp4 files for this device. Later I found out because it doesnt support the Advanced Simple Profile but only the Simple Profile. (Quicktime compatible)
- No standard MPEG 4 AVC support, as the point above the only way to make mp4 video work on this device was to use the encoder program wich was very very very slow. (on my pc at least) Files created with nero or xvid or any other VC-1 encoder would fail to play on this device.
- Even videos created with the special encoder would play fine, but seeking and switching from fullscreen to portrait etc was always lagging.
NOW : I bought a Samsung Omnia PRO B7610 and man it's a world of difference. Seriously this device is awesome for video playback. Smooth playback, fast mode switching, fast seeking forward. I mean everything wich was wrong with the HD is right with this device. I hadn't deleted my bunch of test clips for the HD and this device plays nearly all of them without a problem. And the best part is, I don't have to reencode anything anymore. Every divx/xvid video I tried played flawlessly. Lost episodes downloaded from the web at 624 resolution look perfect on the Amoled Screen, and play perfectly smooth. Well I am certainly satisfied with this device.

samsung b7610
where did you get this deveice from , i've been waiting for it for a long time. does anyone have any idea about a UK release date. i've been scouring the internet and can't find a thing.

I got it online from pdashop / Coolblue. Price for just the phone without contract was 468 euros. You can probably find it cheaper online, but I was prepared to give a little more to get my hands on this a soon as possible.

tuntang said:
where did you get this deveice from , i've been waiting for it for a long time. does anyone have any idea about a UK release date. i've been scouring the internet and can't find a thing.
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It appears not to be in the UK until 7th Oct. clove.co.uk have it and also Play.com both about £399 inc VAT

steve7702 said:
It appears not to be in the UK until 7th Oct. clove.co.uk have it and also Play.com both about £399 inc VAT
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I love all this new found competition and new companies entering the Winmob market, prices of high end devices are tumbling!

maryjohn said:
Hey all..
I get whole briefly details of Samsung Omnia Pro, hey i m agree it's processor is not much more better compare to HTC, but yet i like samsung due to it's big feature screen resolution..
i like most it screen size as well as sound quality and operating system.. hey it's deserve to 9 point out of 10.
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What do you mean its a 272mhz difference on cpu not much but on a phone at this time it is a significant difference.

sdlopez83 said:
What do you mean its a 272mhz difference on cpu not much but on a phone at this time it is a significant difference.
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MHz mith and people who know nothing about processor design, gota love it.
google mhz, ghz, processor design and learn. You can NOT compare simple MHZ.

Samsung: Better cpu, Better camera, no tilt screen (a plus for me)
I think I would still prefer the HTC Touch Pro until this get´s cheaper .

now i've got the new Samsung Omnia Pro GT-B7610
Can anybody tell me when the new WM 6.5 will be available for that phone?

If only it had ATT 3g capability, I'd be on it like a flea on a dog...

why not have the guys over at modaco cook up a full fledged HTC rom with manila 2.5/2.6 and other HTC goodies instead of the samsung apps??
i mean all the HTC goodies in a 800MHZ CPU with a dedicated GFX accelerator and a AMOLED screen = PERFECT

mike21pr said:
why not have the guys over at modaco cook up a full fledged HTC rom with manila 2.5/2.6 and other HTC goodies instead of the samsung apps??
i mean all the HTC goodies in a 800MHZ CPU with a dedicated GFX accelerator and a AMOLED screen = PERFECT
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in the words of my favourite film "Chill Winston"
They will, very soon I would imagine. Modaco has been the major source of Omnia I900 roms and I have no doubt it will be so for the new Omnia's.

Exynos UI Snappier than S600 or placebo effect?

After seeing dozens of vids i started to notice in Russians vids (Exynos Version) UI transitions seems to be more snappier than vids using S600 version.
In russians vids all in S4 seems pretty smooth and fast (like here and other vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ymXQHSxOh4).
In s600 vids seemed to me have seen something clawing here and there.
Someone more have notice this or is just a placebo effect i have.
Thx.
I'm dying to see 2 versions face to face.
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Placebo it's probably using the a7s anyway when UI browsing
S4 INFO

TingTingin said:
Placebo it's probably using the a7s anyway when UI browsing
S4 INFO
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That may be true, but the GPU is more power full so it could be faster due to that. I don't know, they both look good to me.

Also dont know, as i said after seeing many videos I found myself looking preferably Russians videos because what i saw in their S4 screens looks better to me than no Russians vids, although in beginning didnt associated they use Exynos version.
I hope is placebo effect because here we only have S600 version....arrhhhh SAM.

wish it could've been subtitled. I couldn't understand at all.
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It's possible. Neither has the final SW out and Samsung has been working on the Exynos version before they realized they'll need the Snapdragon to meet all the demand. How quickly they managed to adapt with all features to a different SoC only means they'll improve it further upon launch and then some, but I can't say I've seen any lag on either version in videos.
The only thing's bothering me is the home button lag cause it waits for double input, can you turn it off?
Also, is there a way to make AirView pop-ups instantaneous like mouse hover instead of waiting a second over the content?

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The only thing's bothering me is the home button lag cause it waits for double input, can you turn it off?
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Yes, atleast on the s3 you can disable home button for S-voice

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my fault.

pack21 said:
Rude and unhelpful, when i dont understand what someone is trying to say i dont do such kind of comment.
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I don't think there was any intent to be rude in his statement. There is a beta caption translator built into YouTube which gives you a rough idea what he is saying if you enable it.
Still delaying my preorder/early upgrade because of this (although most likely placebo) and other reasons. Really hope the i9500 someone makes it here to the UK so I can get rid of my temp-phone BlackBerry! :crying:

darrendm said:
I don't think there was any intent to be rude in his statement. There is a beta caption translator built into YouTube which gives you a rough idea what he is saying if you enable it.
Still delaying my preorder/early upgrade because of this (although most likely placebo) and other reasons. Really hope the i9500 someone makes it here to the UK so I can get rid of my temp-phone BlackBerry! :crying:
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Thanks, I hadn't realized that.
At first glance it seemed to be referring to my post, @emylia777 might have added that was referred to youtube vid.
@emylia777, In that case i apologize.

4ktvs said:
That may be true, but the GPU is more power full so it could be faster due to that. I don't know, they both look good to me.
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The Adreno 320 should be similar performance to the SGX544MP3 on the Exynos. Both of the chips GPU are clocked higher than stock, we know the SGX544MP3 is at 533Mhz. Plus in theory the Adreno 320 still should perform better due to better intergration in the GPU. The Adreno 320 has more to offer than the SGX544MP3 in the long run such as OpenGL 3.0 and Open CL 1.0, which should make the UI smoother.
Anyways, I won't be surprised in the Exynos version is more optimized, the A7 CPU is a lot slower than the Snapdragon 600, so they'll have to make it optimize for the Exynos chip than the S600.

With 2 GBs of RAM, who knows how many things are running and what is on the priority list. Those are things we don't get to see in these videos.
I wonder if lets say having 5 memory intensive apps open would bog down the CPU priority list and slow the device down a bit.

First comparative says the Octa version delivers 10% better benchmark performance to the Snapdragon 600 variant
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and better battery life.
http://www.galaxy-s4.info/galaxy-s4...os-5-octa-detailed-review-by-russian-websites
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Is there a way to have 4K video recording?

With root or something?
Thanks!
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Unfortunately no, it's up to the processor

Unfortunately, there is no 4K video recording on the device. The max resolution for the Honor 8 is 1080P/60p. (NS)

i'm looking into this phone. would like to have 4k in my future phone. don't have a 4k capable monitor/tv and probably never will. even if this phone had 4k, or those that do have it like galaxy s8 and other expensive flagships, is it me or is 4k in phones overrated? i looked at s8 video and it doesn't seem like gopro or a dedicated compact cam quality. I don't know if it's me or phones have lower bitrate, worse or no stabilization or inferior something else. I don't even have 1080/60 in my phones. It would be cool to have 2k/60 but i dream. Trying to decide if i should keep using my new cheap but fast phone and get a premium 4k action cam or invest in a 4k phone.

Sensamic said:
With root or something?
Thanks!
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simply, Not possible.

venugopalu007 said:
simply, Not possible.
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May be possible with root

gopinaidu77 said:
May be possible with root
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with out the SOC support how can we record ?

It is impossibe to make honor 8 shoot 4K, basically because the chipset (kirin 950) can't record video in that resolution

It's not possible to shoot 4k but if you can convert the video to 4k using 3rd party video editor in Honor 8.

The chip probably capable of doing so but somehow restricted for business reasons like how the 'flagship' p9 couldn't do the same but other android phones with less capable soc (sd625) could.

pijes said:
The chip probably capable of doing so but somehow restricted for business reasons like how the 'flagship' p9 couldn't do the same but other android phones with less capable soc (sd625) could.
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Ho then there is a way or us we have to find

It is simply impossible, because kirin 950 isn't snapdragon 625, basically the kirin 950 doesn't support 4K video. Simple as that

But this is flag ship of honor 8 is last year flagship , if there is recording capable ,devs will updates us

venugopalu007 said:
But this is flag ship of honor 8 is last year flagship , if there is recording capable ,devs will updates us
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The ISP in the Honor 8 can't record 4K video, simple as that. It's not an update thing, it's a hardware limitation.

fireyoshiqc said:
The ISP in the Honor 8 can't record 4K video, simple as that. It's not an update thing, it's a hardware limitation.
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Finally, I didn't how to say it.
Thanks a lot for clarifying

pijes said:
The chip probably capable of doing so but somehow restricted for business reasons like how the 'flagship' p9 couldn't do the same but other android phones with less capable soc (sd625) could.
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Maybe the device is capable. Unfortunately I can never play any 4k videos in me device

fireyoshiqc said:
The ISP in the Honor 8 can't record 4K video, simple as that. It's not an update thing, it's a hardware limitation.
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Saeem said:
Maybe the device is capable. Unfortunately I can never play any 4k videos in me device
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It can't record 4K, look at fireyoshiqc explanation

Could you guys test this.
Download Open Camera, go to Settings and scroll all way down then enable camera2 api. Then open the video settings and check the video resolution options. On my phone there will be 2 additional resolutions higher than 1080p but only the top one managed to record video successfully. It's not 4k but higher than full HD though I'm not sure if it's actually recording in that resolution or simply a mistake in the camera app.

pijes said:
Could you guys test this.
Download Open Camera, go to Settings and scroll all way down then enable camera2 api. Then open the video settings and check the video resolution options. On my phone there will be 2 additional resolutions higher than 1080p but only the top one managed to record video successfully. It's not 4k but higher than full HD though I'm not sure if it's actually recording in that resolution or simply a mistake in the camera app.
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Can you try recording in these resolutions?! Tell us if it works or not

Tried it. The resolution of the file is 4k alright but the quality is either worse or on par with the stock app on 1080p/60
And without stabilization on open camera it starts lagging after a few secs.
All on auto settings and stock rom.
Though the stock file was 4 times bigger than the opencamera one so tweaking the settings might help.
Then again afaik stock has the best quality anyway so no clue what 4k would add to that. Not quality though for sure
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Could anyone be so kind and help me, by testing a game with this great smartphone?

Hello there happy Op7 owners
In 3 days is my 40th birthday and I am in the search of a present for myself - a new smartphone
But, i searched the world for eons (i mean, the internet for a few weeks) for a device capable of playing full speed 60 fps, a certain collection of games.
I asked owners of Pocophone, Mi9, S9, OP6 to test this little game for me, and the results, while promising, were not the full speed that i want. All these phones are capable of runing the game, on paper, but the CPU throttling destroys the performance after a short while. The game needs a big core to run as efficient as it can.
All my research led me to OP7 which apparently, seen from tests with CPU throttling app, has an amazing way of keeing the big core full speed without throttling, or with very minimal throttling.
So, please help me confirm this is the chosen one (...or not) by testing for me the rom Espgaluda 2 (i can provide it in pm if needed, though is easy easy to find in google), using Retroarch emulator (PlayStore) with Mame 2015 core (2015!). The core is downloaded inside the app from Load Core menu. Don't forget to activate On Screen fps :good:
If played for like 5 minutes, we should have an ideea of performance. If one could record with a second phone the test, it would be perfect!
Thanks so much and forgive my enthusiast :angel:

That's minimum what I got lol. Constantly 60FPS.

Kollachi said:
That's minimum what I got lol. Constantly 60FPS.
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Wow man! Could you please confirm that the smoothness remains even after playing more than 5 minutes?
And, very important; Are you rooted? Any special CPU related tweaks or just stock 100%?
Thankss!!

RaduNastase said:
Wow man! Could you please confirm that the smoothness remains even after playing more than 5 minutes?
And, very important; Are you rooted? Any special CPU related tweaks or just stock 100%?
Thankss!!
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I tried it a few minutes and it was still great. Don't remember 5 or 10 minutes.
Yes I'm rooted with bluespark kernel, but I bet its the same with stock kernel, because there is no overclock with bluespark, so far I know.

S9+ 120fps Camera Mod? (request)

The A50 has just recieved a 120fps camera mod.
There are numerous sources that confirm that the S9 is capable of this.
[Unfortunately as i am a lurker and do not have an account i cannot post links yet so you will have to search yourselves but the sources are numerous]
It is quite obvious that Samsung limited this feature, perhaps in order to segment their branding or because they felt that it was too unstable.
Does anyone know if there is an existing mod for this?
I have a 144hz monitor and would love to start capturing footage I can watch at a higher framerate.
Thanks

MattL600 said:
The A50 has just recieved a 120fps camera mod.
There are numerous sources that confirm that the S9 is capable of this.
[Unfortunately as i am a lurker and do not have an account i cannot post links yet so you will have to search yourselves but the sources are numerous]
It is quite obvious that Samsung limited this feature, perhaps in order to segment their branding or because they felt that it was too unstable.
Does anyone know if there is an existing mod for this?
I have a 144hz monitor and would love to start capturing footage I can watch at a higher framerate.
Thanks
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Trying to figure this out. super slow mo runs at like 940 fps and slow mode like 240. My numbers might be a bit off. but it already its higher than 120

TheMadScientist said:
Trying to figure this out. super slow mo runs at like 940 fps and slow mode like 240. My numbers might be a bit off. but it already its higher than 120
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Awesome! Thanks for your work!

MattL600 said:
Awesome! Thanks for your work!
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Not mine Samsung's lol. Have you read the specs on the s9 camera?

TheMadScientist said:
Not mine Samsung's lol. Have you read the specs on the s9 camera?
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Oh i thought you were a developer. The S9 can record at 240fps but the actual video is only exported in 60fps and plays at 60fps. I can tell by comparing actual 120fps video with slow mo video i recorded myself without exporting it.

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Oh i thought you were a developer. The S9 can record at 240fps but the actual video is only exported in 60fps and plays at 60fps. I can tell by comparing actual 120fps video with slow mo video i recorded myself without exporting it.
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I see now. Lol. That's kinda weird. I'm sure it will come along soon enough mate.

guys.. just open the camera and go to the settings and chose 720p as a resloution.. it will record and export in 240fps and you can do whatever it is that you want with it!