Hello there happy Op7 owners
In 3 days is my 40th birthday and I am in the search of a present for myself - a new smartphone
But, i searched the world for eons (i mean, the internet for a few weeks) for a device capable of playing full speed 60 fps, a certain collection of games.
I asked owners of Pocophone, Mi9, S9, OP6 to test this little game for me, and the results, while promising, were not the full speed that i want. All these phones are capable of runing the game, on paper, but the CPU throttling destroys the performance after a short while. The game needs a big core to run as efficient as it can.
All my research led me to OP7 which apparently, seen from tests with CPU throttling app, has an amazing way of keeing the big core full speed without throttling, or with very minimal throttling.
So, please help me confirm this is the chosen one (...or not) by testing for me the rom Espgaluda 2 (i can provide it in pm if needed, though is easy easy to find in google), using Retroarch emulator (PlayStore) with Mame 2015 core (2015!). The core is downloaded inside the app from Load Core menu. Don't forget to activate On Screen fps :good:
If played for like 5 minutes, we should have an ideea of performance. If one could record with a second phone the test, it would be perfect!
Thanks so much and forgive my enthusiast :angel:
That's minimum what I got lol. Constantly 60FPS.
Kollachi said:
That's minimum what I got lol. Constantly 60FPS.
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Wow man! Could you please confirm that the smoothness remains even after playing more than 5 minutes?
And, very important; Are you rooted? Any special CPU related tweaks or just stock 100%?
Thankss!!
RaduNastase said:
Wow man! Could you please confirm that the smoothness remains even after playing more than 5 minutes?
And, very important; Are you rooted? Any special CPU related tweaks or just stock 100%?
Thankss!!
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I tried it a few minutes and it was still great. Don't remember 5 or 10 minutes.
Yes I'm rooted with bluespark kernel, but I bet its the same with stock kernel, because there is no overclock with bluespark, so far I know.
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I am on stock 2.3.6. I installed 1.2 apk and it really lags alot.
Xperia play unrooted and stock seems to play it quite smoothly, nexus S is more powerful so surely it should run smooth??
I have the same problem and I also like to know how to fix it.. The game runs reaply badly for my usual gaming habits. I use Matrix kernel @ 1.46GHz and the latest CM9 nightly. I get really high bench scores for 4.0.3 and overall performance kicks the ass of my friends' stock Galaxy SII I-9100.
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Delete the audio files.
Firstly I would suggest posting this in the correct section for more responses - q&a. Second, perhaps check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103284
Tegra 2 Games on the Nexus S
I've never tried it because I have yet to experience the problems you describe but perhaps it's worth a try.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
Harbb said:
Delete the audio files.
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Whats the point then of playing?
Bruce lee roy said:
Firstly I would suggest posting this in the correct section for more responses - q&a. Second, perhaps check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103284
Tegra 2 Games on the Nexus S
I've never tried it because I have yet to experience the problems you describe but perhaps it's worth a try.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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I have generally found the general section to be most responsive. That method you are saying is via root and I am not rooted.
I always played it on mute anyway, and after deleting the audio files i got a massive jump in performance (audio was being processed even with volume at 0). Personal preference, but a noticeable fps jump.
So I guess the game isnt optimized for powerVR?? It seems to run fine on adreno 205, this is disappointing.
I mainly want to play it for the nostalgic bit and the audio is really important part of it.
The nostalgia value of my GTA3 experience was with a sound bug that forced the rain to play constantly. Not really the highlight of the game for me
The sound on the Nexus S seems kind of delayed and i've noticed many games that slow down a little as sounds are meant to kick in. I don't know exactly why, maybe mediaserver isn't given good enough priority. This seems to be the same issue that plagued my GTA3 adventures though.
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Whats the point then of playing?
I have generally found the general section to be most responsive. That method you are saying is via root and I am not rooted.
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perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
I don't think the processor is to blame for your inability to play the game. The ns processors have proven to be more than capable of handling most processes. Rather, the stock software does not allow the hardware to reach its full potential. In other words, the nexus s is a peacock you; you've got to let it fly.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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I havent experienced lag in any other game and I have played a few. Asphalt 6 runs smooth as well.
And btw my audio runs perfect and never stutters.
I saw youtube video of overclocked nexus S running GTA3 and even that had performance issues.
just install 1.3, i used to have major lag on 1.2 on my nexus s but on 1.3 i have no lag. Huge improvement!
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perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
I don't think the processor is to blame for your inability to play the game. The ns processors have proven to be more than capable of handling most processes. Rather, the stock software does not allow the hardware to reach its full potential. In other words, the nexus s is a peacock you; you've got to let it fly.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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Peacocks don't fly
renaming the "audio" folder into "audio1" made the game much much smoother. i don't mind the missing sound. But isn't there a way to make it run even better? i still experience some massive lag problems...
Huge gain in performance by deleting the Audio folder. Thanks for the tip, now I can enjoy this game.
Controls take some getting to.
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guru2468 said:
I have the same problem and I also like to know how to fix it.. The game runs reaply badly for my usual gaming habits. I use Matrix kernel @ 1.46GHz and the latest CM9 nightly. I get really high bench scores for 4.0.3 and overall performance kicks the ass of my friends' stock Galaxy SII I-9100.
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If you honestly think that your quadrant score makes your phone with a single A8 cortex core faster than two A9 cores there is something seriously wrong with you. Software tweaks can make up to 1% difference in actual performance.
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migueldbr said:
just install 1.3, i used to have major lag on 1.2 on my nexus s but on 1.3 i have no lag. Huge improvement!
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Just did that and you got me excited as there was no lag in the opening cutscene. But it was back as soon as I started driving.
The sad part is I thought I wouldnt care about the game as the controls would be really bad but they arent that bad, it's very much playable but the performance is the issue.
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Xperia play unrooted and stock seems to play it quite smoothly, nexus S is more powerful so surely it should run smooth??
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Don't forget that the xperia play has a super fast graphics chip. That's why most of the time it will outdo may other newer phones with gaming in mind
Give this a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22884431#post22884431
For the Galaxy S, but works on my nexus s. (5 FPS improvement)
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If you honestly think that your quadrant score makes your phone with a single A8 cortex core faster than two A9 cores there is something seriously wrong with you. Software tweaks can make up to 1% difference in actual performance.
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I didn't say that the hardware is faster, I just sayed that the real world performance of my Nexus us better in this particular case. Also I sayed that my scores are high, but I didn't really relate that to making a significant difference...
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greenie25 said:
Don't forget that the xperia play has a super fast graphics chip. That's why most of the time it will outdo may other newer phones with gaming in mind
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Isn't our SGX540 faster? I would say the game is just well optimized for the Xperia Play. Our GPU is pretty ok, it's actually still built in to the Galaxy Nexus (although I think it is higher clocked in this newer phone
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Hey Geeks,
Recently my friend purchased this phone but is facing ridiculous lag while trying to play "Nova 3", truely speaking this game is not playable at all. Even the game videos that come in between stages tend to lag. While i saw couple of gaming review videos where Nova 3 Runs smoothly on this phone except for one user who was also facing heavy lags. My friend got this phone couple days back and there is no software update avaialble for the phone as of now. Spec wise, phone should be able to run this game flawlessly as even xiaomi phones with meditek processor clocked lower are able to run this game smoothly.
I was wondering if anyone could suggest some solution for that.
please clarify if Problem is with the handset itself or some software update screwed it or some tweaking is required to rage CPU to be able to handle this game smoothly.
FYI:Its a 16GB internal, 2GB Ram Version
Regards
Can I have some reply please
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Play it on your 1+1?
There's no custom kernels out for oc support so no way to boost performance. I would clear recents and before playing or maybe a full restart to clear out your ram. Re-install app?
Star Wars uprising runs pretty good on my moto g3... few hiccups but overall pretty good.
I don't think overlooking is required at all coz Cpu seems capable enough as I already mentioned that lower spec xiaomi phone can run this game without lag ?
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Just read a review for G5, while its not my cup of tea it does wipe the floor with s7 in gaming due to less throttling and better coding.
http://www.techspot.com/review/1175-lg-g5/page4.html
It just super annoying
I think the solution will arrive when there is a custom kernel available. Then you will be able to choose which governor to use.
I think we won't have to wait too much...
Derpling said:
Just read a review for G5, while its not my cup of tea it does wipe the floor with s7 in gaming due to less throttling and better coding.
http://www.techspot.com/review/1175-lg-g5/page4.html
It just super annoying
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They just found the one benchmark where the G5 is actually good and build an article around it. I have an xbox one and a ps4 so I couldn't care less about the s7 edge throttling my freecell. Have you even tried the G5? It is fast, the camera is great and that's it. I bought one on Thursday and posted it on Kijiji on Tuesday.
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the point is the Note 5 was the perfect gaming device for me, it the only phone that rank tekken 6 at 60fps on QHD resolution and never get too hot, fps didn't drop at all!!!
After 6.0.1 update it all went to hell, same with S7 and the S7 is capable of much more.
Fake for me because I had z5 and g5 and this device was hotter then s7 edge check YouTube g5 going to 46 Celsius degree s7 edge max to 40 and throttling is bigger on g5
Exynos on pe9
First run 32k I basemark x on hight
Second run : 18k
3 run: 26 k
4 run 32k
5 run 32k
6 run 32k
7.8.8.10 run 32 k
On outside with auto brightest
Sooo yeah phone was cool maybe 35 Celsius
benchmarks means nothing, test it in real games. it barely plays tekken dark resurrection and stutter endlessly, if ppsspp not crashing due to samsung stupid driver error, on Note 5 it works 60 fps ALL THE TIME!!!
All until sammy 6.0.1, that update ruined gaming for me on both devices.
I fix my problem with need for speed with bad fps.
Try this: open game tuner (instal it if dont have it)
Go to setings and then to aplication category. Search for your game and select that is not a game.
Then try again and see 60fps+
tyrael64 said:
I fix my problem with need for speed with bad fps.
Try this: open game tuner (instal it if dont have it)
Go to setings and then to aplication category. Search for your game and select that is not a game.
Then try again and see 60fps+
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This trick will also prevent it from changing screen modes.
I think that made the trick that I hopelessly waited for so long, thank you, I will try it more to obtain a conclusive result but, currently my problems seem to have gone
Didn't notice any difference in games like Temple Run Oz - a game which used to run fluently with highest settings on a Nexus 2013... It's unplayable, regardless if set as game or not.
Changing to governor to performance temporarely fixes the problem completely though.
tyrael64 said:
I fix my problem with need for speed with bad fps.
Try this: open game tuner (instal it if dont have it)
Go to setings and then to aplication category. Search for your game and select that is not a game.
Then try again and see 60fps+
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As another poster said, it doesnt work.
Marvel Champions still drops down to 30fps lock pretty damn quickly, killing the fluidity of it.
Looking like custom kernels are the only way to fix this mess that Samsung have created.
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Looking like custom kernels are the only way to fix this mess that Samsung have created.
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There is no need for a custom kernel. You can just disable GameMode with Package Disabler Pro.
CafeKampuchia said:
There is no need for a custom kernel. You can just disable GameMode with Package Disabler Pro.
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it's not working for everyone, i disabled it and it didn't help at all, my games are cpu intensive and GPU intensive, but ran perfect on Note 5 before 6.0.1, there is no hope, samsung never gonna fix it.
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There is no need for a custom kernel. You can just disable GameMode with Package Disabler Pro.
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Did nothing sadly.
Custom kernel seemed to just make it look like 30fps on crack (responsiveness of 60fps, with judder of 30fps).
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benchmarks means nothing, test it in real games. it barely plays tekken dark resurrection and stutter endlessly, if ppsspp not crashing due to samsung stupid driver error, on Note 5 it works 60 fps ALL THE TIME!!!
All until sammy 6.0.1, that update ruined gaming for me on both devices.
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Report it to Samsung if you haven't yet. I hope they're aware of this issue already though, and this is (luckily) a pure software issue though, so no need to freak out
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Report it to Samsung if you haven't yet. I hope they're aware of this issue already though, and this is (luckily) a pure software issue though, so no need to freak out
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i reported, posted two different video's on youtube, went through several sammy channels, and they said they will forward it further... but tbh nothing will happen.
I did the same with Note 5 on 21 Feb, when it got 6.0.1 and performance in games were poor, very very poor, going back to 5.1.1 made it perfect again, again samsung will never care for it.
its killing me on marvel contest of champions. thiking about returning the damn phone and that sucks... otherwise i love it but if u spend an hour a day or more gaming it becomes unbearable
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As another poster said, it doesnt work.
Marvel Champions still drops down to 30fps lock pretty damn quickly, killing the fluidity of it.
Looking like custom kernels are the only way to fix this mess that Samsung have created.
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its killing me on marvel contest of champions. thiking about returning the damn phone and that sucks... otherwise i love it but if u spend an hour a day or more gaming it becomes unbearable
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that true, i wouldn't advise gaming on S7, it pure crap at that, on software level, at least with root u can make it managable, idk how sammy fail so hard at a simple task...
You actually need a custom kernel, set big cores to blu_active governor and everything works at 60fps
ondemand seems to do the trick too, but heck we need to root for this.
So yeah Samsung said that it's integrated in the S7 and S7 edge, but what does that mean right NOW? I still haven't noticed any improvements in gaming performance, and games still drain the same amount of battery (as they say it improves performance in gaming and battery life, also it's said that the new TouchWiz uses or will use the Vulkan API, is it already being used or what?). What exactly should we expect and when?
My questions might not be well asked, but you get what I want to know
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So yeah Samsung said that it's integrated in the S7 and S7 edge, but what does that mean right NOW? I still haven't noticed any improvements in gaming performance, and games still drain the same amount of battery (as they say it improves performance in gaming and battery life, also it's said that the new TouchWiz uses or will use the Vulkan API, is it already being used or what?). What exactly should we expect and when?
My questions might not be well asked, but you get what I want to know
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This post explains it pretty well, basically it's a new way to boost graphics performance and harness the full power of the CPU. It translates into more responsive game play, more fluid animations and a slicker/snappier touchwiz.
https://news.samsung.com/global/see...y-s7-create-more-immersive-gaming-experiences
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gsmyth said:
This post explains it pretty well, basically it's a new way to boost graphics performance and harness the full power of the CPU. It translates into more responsive game play, more fluid animations and a slicker/snappier touchwiz.
https://news.samsung.com/global/see...y-s7-create-more-immersive-gaming-experiences
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Thanks, I know all of this.. But it's still all on paper, right? when do we expect to actually see it and notice any difference on the Galaxy S7?
Silvers91 said:
Thanks, I know all of this.. But it's still all on paper, right? when do we expect to actually see it and notice any difference on the Galaxy S7?
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It will depend on devs implementing it when building their games, I'm not sure which ones/if any use it at the moment.
I think it's helped a lot with the optimisation of touchwiz which is noticeably improved although this could also be due to the 4GB ram and newer CPU in the S7.
I believe android N is supposed to add native support for the vulkan api so perhaps it will be more apparent when it comes.
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It will depend on devs implementing it when building their games, I'm not sure which ones/if any use it at the moment.
I think it's helped a lot with the optimisation of touchwiz which is noticeably improved although this could also be due to the 4GB ram and newer CPU in the S7.
I believe android N is supposed to add native support for the vulkan api so perhaps it will be more apparent when it comes.
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I'm actually trying now to play Vainglory which is supposedly using Vulkan API, and I can't deny it, it runs smoother than a lot of games I have including clash royale, hearthstone and subway surfers.. even though it looks demanding.. Also the phone isn't overheating much like it does on clash royale and battery drain is normal.. I don't know if it's actually thanks to Vulkan or if the game runs like this on other phones as well.
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I'm actually trying now to play Vainglory which is supposedly using Vulkan API, and I can't deny it, it runs smoother than a lot of games I have including clash royale, hearthstone and subway surfers.. even though it looks demanding.. Also the phone isn't overheating much like it does on clash royale and battery drain is normal.. I don't know if it's actually thanks to Vulkan or if the game runs like this on other phones as well.
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Nice one, it certainly sounds like its running well although hard to confirm its purely down to Vulkan, without being able to enable and disable it on the handset itself. I suppose the way to test would be to run it on an S6 or an HTC 10 for comparison.
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So yeah Samsung said that it's integrated in the S7 and S7 edge, but what does that mean right NOW? I still haven't noticed any improvements in gaming performance, and games still drain the same amount of battery (as they say it improves performance in gaming and battery life, also it's said that the new TouchWiz uses or will use the Vulkan API, is it already being used or what?). What exactly should we expect and when?
My questions might not be well asked, but you get what I want to know
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After almost a year of your post, I am also still looking for this information. Have you found what you are looking for? I am now in nougat with a game that "said" support vulkan api, but my analysis, cpu work is still high and gpu work is still low.
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After almost a year of your post, I am also still looking for this information. Have you found what you are looking for? I am now in nougat with a game that "said" support vulkan api, but my analysis, cpu work is still high and gpu work is still low.
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Sorry mate, I got rid of the S7.
Hey, I'm looking for this phone and wanted to know if this phone works good with high graphics games. And about heating problem regarding this phone. Any helpful advice will be appreciated
George Matthews said:
Hey, I'm looking for this phone and wanted to know if this phone works good with high graphics games. And about heating problem regarding this phone. Any helpful advice will be appreciated
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Performs great. No issues in my device of any kind.
Heat? What heat? Huawei have achieved very good heat dissipation with this phone. Not sure how but they have. It also plays games just fine.
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No issues so far and it doesn't get hot as other phones after long periods of gaming.
According to AnandTech's review this phone is a monster in GPU benchmarks. Should not have any issues. (Can't post link though as I'm a new user, but Google it)
Games work fine except for Dream league soccer 2016. On firmware version 126 it was obvious that something is wrong with graphics, but it was playable. After upgrading firmware to 138 game keeps crashing after max. 5mins of playtime.
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George Matthews said:
Hey, I'm looking for this phone and wanted to know if this phone works good with high graphics games. And about heating problem regarding this phone. Any helpful advice will be appreciated
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Hardware is not a problem, nor heat is, but you have to take in mind that many games developers don't support Kirin processors and when they detect a Kirin processor, they just display ugly graphics.
I have tried many games with Mate 9, and all those with Vulkan run flawless, but if you try some other games, for example, CSR2, you will see the difference against a Qualcomm device. Is matter of time until the developers start giving support to Kirin processors and/or enable high quality graphics for them.
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Hardware is not a problem, nor heat is, but you have to take in mind that many games don't support Kirin processors and when they detect a Kirin processor, they just display ugly graphics.
I have tried many games with Mate 9, and all those with Vulkan run flawless, but if you try some other games, for example, CSR2, you will see the difference against a Qualcomm device. Is matter of time until the start giving support to Kirin processors and/or enable high quality graphics for them.
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Okay, thanks for this information
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No issues so far and it doesn't get hot as other phones after long periods of gaming.
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Yeah, I've HTC desire 10 lifestyle it gets hot whenever i play any high graphics games on it.
ishtar007 said:
Games work fine except for Dream league soccer 2016. On firmware version 126 it was obvious that something is wrong with graphics, but it was playable. After upgrading firmware to 138 game keeps crashing after max. 5mins of playtime.
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Okay so i won't play Dream League Soccer 2016 then as I've a good interest in soccer but i will manage with other soccer games.
No problems with any games I play.
I play hearthstone for hours and hours at a time.
My phone never gets hot. I remember when I used to play that game on my nexus 6 the phone would heat up so bad lol.