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Screen issue? (uneven brightness/darkness)

My OP6 have this uneven lighting on my screen. It is visible when you have a dark grey background, in a dark room, and the brightness is on 5%-10%. It's also visible when you open up chrome app and close all the tabs until you got nothing but a dark background and a + for new tabs. Is this normal? Or should I RMA it?

Photos?

xmegapixelx said:
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Here you go

I don't think that's normal at all. At least my OP6 doesn't have that. The brightness is even across the entire screen.

Normally the issue only have Huawei and the LG OLED Panels.
OnePlus 6 have an SAMSUNG Super AMOLED Display, and there is no issue with uneveness Display in low brightness.

Can anyone else confirm this if it's normal or not? Please try again and use this image i attached. The uneveness is quite visible with it.
Go in a dark room.
Full screen it (make sure there's no other bright elements are showing).
And lastly, set your brightness to about 10%.
Please tell me it's normal :/

*edit. Funny, can't seem to upload the pic.
Welp.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7JwXhvBtEqAjVek67

@aserate: I have the same issue. I tested it yesterday and saw some lines and uneveness.
Im happy, that I bought the OP6 from Amazon. Now I give the OP back and buy the Mi Mix 2S without AMOLED.
Only Samsung build AMOLED Display without uneveness and lines. I tested the screen from Mate 10 Pro, P20 Pro, Google Pixel 2 XL, LG V30, OP 5T,...
All of these smartphones had a problem with the OLED / AMOLED Displays.
Im wondering, that the user, who test the phone for YouTube or a mobile site, dont see the bad screen.
I bought the Mate 10 Pro 3 times ans the P20 Pro 2 times from different stores. All the devices had a bad screen.
I hate the UI from Samsung, that is why I only buy now smartphones without AMOLED, only IPS or Super LCD.

I don't have this issue. I checked 5 different OP6 units and all were ok. Only one had some slight uneven brightness, but not as visible as on your picture.

Appreciate your feedback. I guess i have to rma this since it's clearly an issue. Praying the replacement won't have this. Sad to know after watching linus' op factory tour with all that quality checking and stuff, common issue such as this still exist. Welp.

There is a way to completely deactivate the top part of the display to completely hide notch. But I don't want clock on the left of the notch I want it on both. There is a way?
THX

instantonline_de said:
@aserate: I have the same issue. I tested it yesterday and saw some lines and uneveness.
Im happy, that I bought the OP6 from Amazon. Now I give the OP back and buy the Mi Mix 2S without AMOLED.
Only Samsung build AMOLED Display without uneveness and lines. I tested the screen from Mate 10 Pro, P20 Pro, Google Pixel 2 XL, LG V30, OP 5T,...
All of these smartphones had a problem with the OLED / AMOLED Displays.
Im wondering, that the user, who test the phone for YouTube or a mobile site, dont see the bad screen.
I bought the Mate 10 Pro 3 times ans the P20 Pro 2 times from different stores. All the devices had a bad screen.
I hate the UI from Samsung, that is why I only buy now smartphones without AMOLED, only IPS or Super LCD.
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well that is rubbish
s8 pink tint hardware fault not software i had 6 devices gave up in end
note 8 same problem not as wide spread still had to go through 3 to find a good one
s9 tint not as bad still noticeable went through 3 and gave up
and got the op6 no problems here

strikerdj2011 said:
well that is rubbish
s8 pink tint hardware fault not software i had 6 devices gave up in end
note 8 same problem not as wide spread still had to go through 3 to find a good one
s9 tint not as bad still noticeable went through 3 and gave up
and got the op6 no problems here
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Rubbish? I´d tested all of the phones:
- S8 & S8+
- S9 & S9+
-Note 8
All of them don´t had any display issues.
I´d tested:
- Mate 10 Pro
- P20 Pro
All of them had uneveness and lines on the OLED Display
I´d tested now:
- OnePlus 6
THis phone has uneveness, too.
Now I have OnePlus 5T and this phone has a perfect OLED display.
If I have the chance, to get a samsung phone with OnePlus Oxygen OS, I would like to swap asap!

instantonline_de said:
@aserate: I have the same issue. I tested it yesterday and saw some lines and uneveness.
Im happy, that I bought the OP6 from Amazon. Now I give the OP back and buy the Mi Mix 2S without AMOLED.
Only Samsung build AMOLED Display without uneveness and lines. I tested the screen from Mate 10 Pro, P20 Pro, Google Pixel 2 XL, LG V30, OP 5T,...
All of these smartphones had a problem with the OLED / AMOLED Displays.
Im wondering, that the user, who test the phone for YouTube or a mobile site, dont see the bad screen.
I bought the Mate 10 Pro 3 times ans the P20 Pro 2 times from different stores. All the devices had a bad screen.
I hate the UI from Samsung, that is why I only buy now smartphones without AMOLED, only IPS or Super LCD.
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instantonline_de said:
Rubbish? I´d tested all of the phones:
- S8 & S8+
- S9 & S9+
-Note 8
All of them don´t had any display issues.
I´d tested:
- Mate 10 Pro
- P20 Pro
All of them had uneveness and lines on the OLED Display
I´d tested now:
- OnePlus 6
THis phone has uneveness, too.
Now I have OnePlus 5T and this phone has a perfect OLED display.
If I have the chance, to get a samsung phone with OnePlus Oxygen OS, I would like to swap asap!
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no issues you say >>
s9 >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCGUFZHeV7s
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/s9-screen-red-pink-tint-t3768596
s8 >
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/red-tint-screen-t3592335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTQr6VwMfBI&t=302s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4O3Ry14rVA
note 8 >
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/screen-tint-issue-t3677729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y0iqHm1UuA
i rest my case as you said all are perfect this proves other wise

Got the same issue. Also on my fourth device already because of loose alert sliders. my fourth device has a loose alert slider and an uneven screen. right side is darker than the left side and its noticable in dark menus, notification shade etc on low brightness

No problems for me here in terms of uniformity.
Great panel, but I wish the calibration was better:
- calibration too cold
- oversaturated
- gamma way too high
- black crush

I had this problem in 2 Oneplus 6. I made a RMA and got a new unit, without the banding, but a defective corners (a white glow in dark images). So I got another one, finally a perfect unit.
The other one was purchased via amazon, with the same banding issue, so I got an exchange.
All of them were red Oneplus 6.
The OP customer service was very helpfull resolving the problem. I give a 10 to them.

Anyone can check the screen with this images or an app called oled tools. You need a dark enviroment and low brightness

Im kind of hestitant to replace since im on my fourth device already and dont feel like waiting anymore. Thinking about returning and waiting for the 6t. Id have to use my galaxy s5 for a few extra months though...

I just received my replacement unit 2 days ago, I was waiting for it for almost a MONTH. Unfortunately, I still have the screen issue. I can't believe I was waiting for nothing. While waiting for the replacement, I only used a f***ing keypad phone, and it was really hard for me. Have I known this issue is fairly common, I haven't RMA'd my unit just to have a big chance to have the same issue again.

Display manufacturer

Hi again.
This time I'll touch into a very frustrating matter for the new users of poco f1. because of how the hardware test app on the new miui versions don't show the manufacturer of the lcd panel.
From what I've asked my friends it seems that the global versions ship with low quality displays such as ebbg panels and the models which got launched at first have the better tianma panels.
Its been like this for 3 of my friends 2 of them had the tianma panel because they were using the initial models and one of them had the global version.
So if you were thinking of overclocking your lcd you should choose the 65 hz option if you have the global version because ebbg panels and others are not that good in terms of quality.
To be honest ive tried the 65hz even then it had some weird glitch artifacts on the screen so i would advise you to stay at 60hz.
And if you are using the global version you should stay updated in terms of touch drivers and if you are not using the global try to use the old drivers.
Hope this helped you.

MechaNarutoSucks said:
Hi again.
This time I'll touch into a very frustrating matter for the new users of poco f1. because of how the hardware test app on the new miui versions don't show the manufacturer of the lcd panel.
From what I've asked my friends it seems that the global versions ship with low quality displays such as ebbg panels and the models which got launched at first have the better tianma panels.
Its been like this for 3 of my friends 2 of them had the tianma panel because they were using the initial models and one of them had the global version.
So if you were thinking of overclocking your lcd you should choose the 65 hz option if you have the global version because ebbg panels and others are not that good in terms of quality.
To be honest ive tried the 65hz even then it had some weird glitch artifacts on the screen so i would advise you to stay at 60hz.
And if you are using the global version you should stay updated in terms of touch drivers and if you are not using the global try to use the old drivers.
Hope this helped you.
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I have NVT screen and i never had problems even with 70hz, batch from 11
Also never use old driver cuz that's ruining your screen

my pocophone F1 Global is a 2018/10 Lot and use Tienma fhd nt36672a display... never heard of other display type...

Pocophones have been supplied with 3 LCD panels - EBBG, BOE and Tianma.
From what I've gathered so far- Tianma are superior since these are most likely LTPS IPS panels, while BOE/EBBG are regular IPS panels. Meaning - Tianma panels are consuming much less energy.
This is why some of the Pocophone users can easily surpass even 16 hours of SOT (without gaming, just watching youtube, movies, listening to the music, etc. with Wifi AND LTE data always enabled) while others can't get even past 8-12 hours (BOE/EBBG panels) in pretty much the same use-case scenarios.
You can find some Pocophone panel comparisons on youtube. In these videos EBBG has a yellowish tint (whites are yellow/brownish) and is overall darker, while BOE and Tianma are much brighter and also have much better color reproduction. Also - on these videos Tianma panels have no issues when it comes to touch detection on the edges, while BOE have some issues near top/bottom of the screen.
That's also why you can find conflicting opinions when it comes to the screen of Pocophone, in different reviews that are available on the internet. Some of them say that the screen of the Pocophone is mediocre at best, while other say that it's very good in its class, for the price. There are also different numbers when it comes to the measured brightness.
These reviewers got different Pocophones with different panels.
By going through the kernel notes of different custom kernels on XDA forums you can gather that Tianma screens can be overclocked up to 70 Hz, while BOE/EBBG are more limited (up to 65 Hz).
You've said that Tianma panels have been supplied initially and are not being supplied anymore. I can't confirm that information. My Pocophone (with Tianma panel) was manufactured in 2018-10. You can find the date at the bottom right side of the sticker which is located at the back of the original phone box.
When it comes to checking the panel model - you should be able to do that by going into: Settings->About phone->Full specification. Then touch the "kernel version" several times.. It should get you into the diagnostic mode.
There you should be able to pick the first available option - "Check version info". Next - just scroll down at the bottom and there you will find "LCM Information", in my case it says: "dsi tianma fhd nt36672a video display"

Just to add more recent infos My poco 6/128 Global Version manufactured 01/2019 have Tianma panel, perfect backlight but I can say sometimes fails when trying to type fast, it's not a problem with edges but seems more a problem with touch input recognition that is not uniform among the panel

deathnoise said:
Pocophones have been supplied with 3 LCD panels - EBBG, BOE and Tianma.
From what I've gathered so far- Tianma are superior since these are most likely LTPS IPS panels, while BOE/EBBG are regular IPS panels. Meaning - Tianma panels are consuming much less energy.
This is why, most likely, some of the Pocophone users can easily surpass even 16 hours of SOT (without gaming, just watching youtube, movies, listening to the music, etc. with Wifi AND LTE data always enabled) while others can't get even past 8-12 hours (BOE/EBBG panels) in pretty much the same use-case scenarios.
You can find some Pocophone panel comparisons on youtube. In these videos EBBG has a yellowish tint (whites are yellow/brownish) and is overall darker, while BOE and Tianma are much brighter and also have much better color reproduction. Also - on these videos Tianma panels have no issues when it comes to touch detection on the edges, while BOE have some issues near top/bottom of the screen.
That's also why you can find conflicting opinions when it comes to the screen of Pocophone, in different reviews that are available on the internet. Some of them say that the screen of the Pocophone is mediocre at best, while other say that it's very good in its class, for the price. There are also different numbers when it comes to the measured brightness.
These reviewers got different Pocophones with different panels.
By going through the kernel notes of different custom kernels on XDA forums you can gather that Tianma screens can be overclocked up to 70 Hz, while BOE/EBBG are more limited (up to 65 Hz).
You've said that Tianma panels have been supplied initially and are not being supplied anymore. I can't confirm that information. My Pocophone (with Tianma panel) was manufactured in 2018-10. You can find the date at the bottom right side of the sticker which is located at the back of the original phone box.
When it comes to checking the panel model - you should be able to do that by going into: Settings->About phone->Full specification. Then touch the "kernel version" several times.. It should get you into the diagnostic mode.
There you should be able to pick the first available option - "Check version info". Next - just scroll down at the bottom and there you will find "LCM Information", in my case it says: "dsi tianma fhd nt36672a video display"
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In the new versions of the miui the option to see it is gone the only way to figure it out is by using root
And when it comes to your answer I've never said anything like
" this is the truth "
So this is just a conclusion I've came up with to help others who insist on not rooting.
From the results of my investigation this was the conclusion I've ended up with.
And if you've read it carefully you can see that i've said that me and my friends all had the global version. So this is just a conclusion based on me and my friend's experience.
Edit: mine was manufactured in 2019.01 just you let you know.

MechaNarutoSucks said:
In the new versions of the miui the option to see it is gone the only way to figure it out is by using root
And when it comes to your answer I've never said anything like
" this is the truth "
So this is just a conclusion I've came up with to help others who insist on not rooting.
From results of my investigation this was the conclusion I've ended up with.
And if you've read it carefully you can see that i've said that me and my friends all had the global version. So this is just a conclusion based on me and my friend's experience.
Edit: mine was manufactured in 2019.01 just you let you know.
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So you have 2019.01 and have problems? What screen you have? I have 2018.11 and never had problems even with 70hz

MechaNarutoSucks said:
And when it comes to your answer I've never said anything like
" this is the truth "
So this is just a conclusion I've came up with to help others who insist on not rooting.
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I haven't said that you did. Just that I can't confirm that Tianma panels have been used only initially (Tianma panels are also being used in the new Redmi Note 7) .
And I agree - it's good to exchange the information, by having more of these comments coming from different Pocophone users, we can get a better view on how Xiaomi is operating when it comes to using very different phone components in the same phone model.
I'm not trying to discourage that, it's just the opposite.
The other phones, like Xiaomi Redmi 6 are also using different panels from EBBG, BOE and Tianma.
Edit: mine was manufactured in 2019.01 just you let you know.
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You can also try to enter: *#*#64663#*#* using your dial pad. It should bring up the same QC test menu. Check it out.

Use Device HW info app to check the panel manufacturer..

deathnoise said:
*snip*
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Nice write-up, all good to know - surprised that nobody else has liked the post. I checked and found I have a Tianma display so yay (imported mine on launch day, dunno about manufacture date).
Also concretely puts to rest the "But I don't have touch problems in PUBG so it's not a design flaw but might be software issue" arguments.

How u change hz of display?

niteone said:
How u change hz of display?
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You need to flash one of the custom kernels

deathnoise said:
I haven't said that you did. Just that I can't confirm that Tianma panels have been used only initially (Tianma panels are also being used in the new Redmi Note 7) .
And I agree - it's good to exchange the information, by having more of these comments coming from different Pocophone users, we can get a better view on how Xiaomi is operating when it comes to using very different phone components in the same phone model.
I'm not trying to discourage that, it's just the opposite.
The other phones, like Xiaomi Redmi 6 are also using different panels from EBBG, BOE and Tianma.
You can also try to enter: *#*#64663#*#* using your dial pad. It should bring up the same QC test menu. Check it out.
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Like i said in the new versions of the miui specifically beta versions the qc test menu doesn't show the display info like i said I've rooted my device and loaded pe for my taste and have a custom kernel I've just wanted to give my opinions on it for the users who want their devices to stay unrooted like you said. And I've said it before but I'll say it again i have the ebbg panel it's not like I'm not satisfied. For the price I'm more than satisfied with the poco.

mastermoon said:
Use Device HW info app to check the panel manufacturer..
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For the unrooted users the app doesn't show the panel info.

CosmicDan said:
Nice write-up, all good to know - surprised that nobody else has liked the post. I checked and found I have a Tianma display so yay (imported mine on launch day, dunno about manufacture date).
Also concretely puts to rest the "But I don't have touch problems in PUBG so it's not a design flaw but might be software issue" arguments.
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Like you said the touch problems are software related some users reported that the new versions of the miui/firmware with the new touch drivers had problems such as touch lag multi touch not working and recent reports from the users are good poco team has kept their promise and fixed the issues so it should be okay for the users to flash the new firmware/miui updates without worrying.
And from what you are saying my conclusion got stronger the ones from launch mostly have the tianma panels and I'm gonna say it again this is not going to be true for every launch manufactured poco but if you are frustrated you can probably rest relieved because most likely you have one of the best panels poco f1 has shipped with.
@CosmicDan And thx for the reply I'm happy that users got what they wanted.
Edit: New reports from my friends show that the newly manufactured ones mostly have the nvt panels instead of tianma especially for the 64gb versions all the low quality panels stay the same.

HK$$ said:
I too have an nvt screen. How's it in quality as compared to tianma?
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It's generally same.

Tianma is LCD display ; NVT is touch panel

20.02.2019 global

I am not using the Poco phone but the redmi note 7. I have the same tianma panel as some of the users of f1 do.
Seems to be also facing a touch latency problem. Any fixes yet other than custom roms.?

bbtee said:
I am not using the Poco phone but the redmi note 7. I have the same tianma panel as some of the users of f1 do.
Seems to be also facing a touch latency problem. Any fixes yet other than custom roms.?
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Tiamana panels dont have that issue..your will be fixed with driver updates

Poco X2 ghost touch problem.

I am facing ghost touch issue in poco X2 and the problem is getting worse day by day! Anyone who faced similar problem in X2?

I have touch issues also; the screen registers touches when my fingers are near the screen; it worse for me when charging. If you are in India and bought it from Flipkart; I would ask that you raise it with them as soon as possible. I have asked for a replacement on june 17 and their response is abysmal.

Same ghost touch issue here...
abharti880 said:
I am facing ghost touch issue in poco X2 and the problem is getting worse day by day! Anyone who faced similar problem in X2?
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Yes, I also have been facing it since last 2-3 weeks.
I think it might be due to some update in some software, mostly keyboard. I am using Microsoft SwiftKey as keyboard. What about you?

Here we are. Tianma lcd panel? Same problems with poco f1, note 8, note 8 pro. At least about this phones I've been reading extensively. And it's hardware not software problem. I wanted to buy Poco x2 but this thing is obviously deal-breaker. Pathetic

I have been using it for 2 weeks and never had any issue.

I was also facing ghost touches on stock rom but now everything is fine in custom rom...

sharik68 said:
I was also facing ghost touches on stock rom but now everything is fine in custom rom...
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No problems whatsoever? Or just better? Which custom rom?

Madhuvrata said:
Here we are. Tianma lcd panel? Same problems with poco f1, note 8, note 8 pro. At least about this phones I've been reading extensively. And it's hardware not software problem. I wanted to buy Poco x2 but this thing is obviously deal-breaker. Pathetic
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I'm exactly in the same boat as you with my MI A2 touch issues. I've been researching this too for a while now and looks like I'd have to switch to either Oneplus or Realme. Poco X2 was really interesting but deep down i knew.

Madhuvrata said:
Here we are. Tianma lcd panel? Same problems with poco f1, note 8, note 8 pro. At least about this phones I've been reading extensively. And it's hardware not software problem. I wanted to buy Poco x2 but this thing is obviously deal-breaker. Pathetic
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i dont think it is tianma panel
look in the kernel source
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...a0cbd5cffc74e04a5145a8930769f220e71761a.patch
if you download this file and search in text , there is no mention of tianma panel .
but if you look in redmi note 9 pro/pro max source
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...31fa425e8f42661f74339de63c3ad472de6077d.patch and search for tianma , you will get panel dtsi as tianma.
also
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...64ee75e7daeff1bd80bdff74ea99a979c8f2b9b.patch for poco f1
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...d1d7fc3e85fdb6416a5e38025a9692bcc29e5b2.patch for redmi note 8
both show tianma panel dtsi in their source.

i.snehal.kiran said:
i dont think it is tianma panel
look in the kernel source
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...a0cbd5cffc74e04a5145a8930769f220e71761a.patch
if you download this file and search in text , there is no mention of tianma panel .
but if you look in redmi note 9 pro/pro max source
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...31fa425e8f42661f74339de63c3ad472de6077d.patch and search for tianma , you will get panel dtsi as tianma.
also
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...64ee75e7daeff1bd80bdff74ea99a979c8f2b9b.patch for poco f1
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...d1d7fc3e85fdb6416a5e38025a9692bcc29e5b2.patch for redmi note 8
both show tianma panel dtsi in their source.
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Doesn't matter, even the displays from Huaxing in Redmi Note 9 Pro has bleeding and retention issues, so goodbye Xiaomi, i guess.

It's a hardware issue in my case (India)
I bought a brand new Poco X2 on 11th July and got it delivered on 13th July. I have been using Xiaomi phones for the last 2 years so the learning curve with MIUI wasn't much for me, the only thing I needed to get accustomed to was the form factor.
From the very first day, the keyboard used to double tap. While playing PUBG, it would auto press some buttons (reload, backpack etc.). Also, the gestures weren't particularly great.
Initially, I thought it happened because I wasn't used to it, but after 10 days the problem persisted. That's when I decided to do a deep dive. I downloaded several multi-touch test apps, and indeed, it showed the problem of ghost touching. Even while touching the screen once, the max. events would show 2.
On top of this, I faced a very poor screen flickering issue.
I submitted my phone to the service centre on 28th July. They said even though they have not received any X2 with such complaints, there indeed seems to be something abnormal with my phone. It could either be the display or the motherboard or the PCB or the worst - a combination of 2 and 3. So it's either a repair or a replacement at this point. They have asked for 6-7 days, so let's see.
But if you are using the device and facing such issues, don't hesitate to raise your voice.
If you're planning to buy the device, RUN AS FAR AS YOU CAN FROM THIS ONE. Don't buy this.

TheHardworkingBong said:
I bought a brand new Poco X2 on 11th July and got it delivered on 13th July. I have been using Xiaomi phones for the last 2 years so the learning curve with MIUI wasn't much for me, the only thing I needed to get accustomed to was the form factor.
From the very first day, the keyboard used to double tap. While playing PUBG, it would auto press some buttons (reload, backpack etc.). Also, the gestures weren't particularly great.
Initially, I thought it happened because I wasn't used to it, but after 10 days the problem persisted. That's when I decided to do a deep dive. I downloaded several multi-touch test apps, and indeed, it showed the problem of ghost touching. Even while touching the screen once, the max. events would show 2.
On top of this, I faced a very poor screen flickering issue.
I submitted my phone to the service centre on 28th July. They said even though they have not received any X2 with such complaints, there indeed seems to be something abnormal with my phone. It could either be the display or the motherboard or the PCB or the worst - a combination of 2 and 3. So it's either a repair or a replacement at this point. They have asked for 6-7 days, so let's see.
But if you are using the device and facing such issues, don't hesitate to raise your voice.
If you're planning to buy the device, RUN AS FAR AS YOU CAN FROM THIS ONE. Don't buy this.
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The situation with Poco X2 in compare to other Xiaomi phones is still much better. Poco X2 at least doesn't have miserable tianma panel. Problems will occur but majority of don't get any issues

What are oppo like for firmware updates / is camera amazing

I was going to move from.iphone to p40 pro however my banks have said they are unlikely to ever support the huawei system so am looking at something different than for example Samsung
I have seen the oppo find x2 pro and the headphones offer is definitely tempting me
I've never had an oppo before what are they like in firmware updates? Do you wait for ever or are they quite prompt for example what month security are you all on??
Also is the camera good (other option is the xperia 1 Mark 2 as I've a massive photographer)
Thanks in advance

mancuk29 said:
I was going to move from.iphone to p40 pro however my banks have said they are unlikely to ever support the huawei system so am looking at something different than for example Samsung
I have seen the oppo find x2 pro and the headphones offer is definitely tempting me
I've never had an oppo before what are they like in firmware updates? Do you wait for ever or are they quite prompt for example what month security are you all on??
Also is the camera good (other option is the xperia 1 Mark 2 as I've a massive photographer)
Thanks in advance
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My find x2 pro has the june security patch but i think other carriers already have the july update and with each security update they always have other things in the updates not just security patches like samsung do, also the camera in my opinion is better than samsung , samsung photos always seem quite grainy and the 120hz + QHD+ run at the same time unlike samsung and 1 billion colour display on the find x2 pro make things looks way smoother in terms of the colour spectrum/range.
Plus this phones charges up from 0 to 100 in like 35 mins.

Brilliant thank you as long as it's not months behind I'm happy...

mancuk29 said:
Brilliant thank you as long as it's not months behind I'm happy...
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The Find X2 Pro is fairly recent however I'm on the June security patch now which is the latest for my region, July incoming soon I believe.
Additionally this phone outclasses any Samsung on the market & will continue to do so even when the Note 20 comes out next month because Samsung cripple us with their lackluster Exynos chipsets.
Camera quality is amazing, I came from a Note 10+ to the Find X2 Pro and don't regret it whatsoever, the custom built sensor is outstanding and has amazing colour accuracy.
As for the display, 3K, 120hz, HDR certified, with 1 billion colours, & calibrated to perfection by Oppo, even outclassing the likes of the OnePlus 8 Pro.
Need I say more?

TheInfiniteAndroid said:
The Find X2 Pro is fairly recent however I'm on the June security patch now which is the latest for my region, July incoming soon I believe.
Additionally this phone outclasses any Samsung on the market & will continue to do so even when the Note 20 comes out next month because Samsung cripple us with their lackluster Exynos chipsets.
Camera quality is amazing, I came from a Note 10+ to the Find X2 Pro and don't regret it whatsoever, the custom built sensor is outstanding and has amazing colour accuracy.
As for the display, 3K, 120hz, HDR certified, with 1 billion colours, & calibrated to perfection by Oppo, even outclassing the likes of the OnePlus 8 Pro.
Need I say more?
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You made it sound that good i want to buy another one lol

Hi I just recently returned the Xperia 1ii and decided to try the Oppo Find X2 Pro
First impressions have been positive. The camera does seem to be better than the Xperia and that is me using the Manuel modes with photo Pro on the Xperia
Screen is just as good and I like what Colour OS has built into its software.
Xperia had issues with video recording as it was causing a hissing sound so it was a big deal breaker.
Enjoying it so far and hope I will continue to do so

I read a few horror stories about the xperia 1 ii I loved the advance software for camera but rubbish front camera and also issues with software so glad have ordered the oppo one it's landing tomorrow can't wait

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I read a few horror stories about the xperia 1 ii I loved the advance software for camera but rubbish front camera and also issues with software so glad have ordered the oppo one it's landing tomorrow can't wait
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get some type of lens hood for it. it suffers a lot from lens flare

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get some type of lens hood for it. it suffers a lot from lens flare
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@mancuk29 bare in mind this could just be select devices, not a widespread issue

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@mancuk29 bare in mind this could just be select devices, not a widespread issue
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from the 100 telegram users that have the phone i'd say 80% have that and the other 20% don't know how to replicate it.
And customer support is the worst i've seen.
everything else is pretty good.

Is that on the Sony and not the oppo ? please tell me it's the sony

Oppo just released another update today A30, waiting on a download file or try and vpn it

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I've never had an oppo before what are they like in firmware updates? Do you wait for ever or are they quite prompt for example what month security are you all on??
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July security patch received this morning

Is that UK as I'm only showing June patch so far (updated this morning)

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Is that UK as I'm only showing June patch so far (updated this morning)
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Yes I'm on EE in the UK, if you haven't received it yet, others are reporting that using a VPN & setting it to Italy will find the update

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Yes I'm on EE in the UK, if you haven't received it yet, others are reporting that using a VPN & setting it to Italy will find the update
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Thanks that worked when I connect to Italy VPN.
I'm on O2 network

Question Lenovo P11 Pro 2020 or 2021?

Hi,
A little question for anybody who owns either model; is there any drawback with the 2021 model over the 2020 model of the P11? (bad global ROM version, unlock...)?
I can see that the screen brightness is higher on the 2021 model (600 vs 400), does it also affects the minimum brightness?
I saw some people saying the blacks were gray somehow? (which doesn't make much sense for an OLED screen?)
As I'd use it to read comics in the dark, the lower brightness/deeper blacks, the better.
It's barely a 100$ difference, so if there is no drawback I'd obviously get the 2021 model for the new CPU and 90Hz screen
Thanks!

If you get a global variant of the 2020 model you get Dolby Vision on Netflix and possibly better software support.
If you go for the 2021 version and are comfortable with just English and Chinese as a language choice get the CN ROM with full widevine L1 not the janky Global ROM version. The grey issue isn't not evident often. Black is black its dark grey colours that can look a little dirty. It's not evident for the majority of the time.
The issues I was experiencing when watching media was because justplayer has a bug with HDR at 90hz. If the screen is set to 60hz it plays fine and it doesn't crush blacks.
Also the snapdragon 870 is significantly faster on the 2021 version.

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If you get a global variant of the 2020 model you get Dolby Vision on Netflix and possibly better software support.
If you go for the 2021 version and are comfortable with just English and Chinese as a language choice get the CN ROM with full widevine L1 not the janky Global ROM version. The grey issue isn't not evident often. Black is black its dark grey colours that can look a little dirty. It's not evident for the majority of the time.
The issues I was experiencing when watching media was because justplayer has a bug with HDR at 90hz. If the screen is set to 60hz it plays fine and it doesn't crush blacks.
Also the snapdragon 870 is significantly faster on the 2021 version.
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Awesome, thanks a lot for the clear and fast answer, that's exactly what I wanted to know!
That's a very hard choice, but I think for my use I might stay with the 2020 model for the L1, multi-language option and better software support
Is there any issue/bug on the 2020 with the Android 10 to 11 OTA, like widevine going back to L3? Or does it seems all good now?

Stremon said:
Awesome, thanks a lot for the clear and fast answer, that's exactly what I wanted to know!
That's a very hard choice, but I think for my use I might stay with the 2020 model for the L1, multi-language option and better software support
Is there any issue/bug on the 2020 with the Android 10 to 11 OTA, like widevine going back to L3? Or does it seems all good now?
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There's certainly issues like that on the 2021 version (not happened to me yet). If you get the 2020 version from a legitimate store at least you have warranty support if something does go wrong.
Speaking from experience if you have issues with the chinese Xiaoxin versions which you can't fix yourself... It's a long expensive process to fix.

Yeah that makes sense.
Well I'm used to waste time with Chinese tablets flashing and tweaking, but if I can avoid it...
Now I see a user saying the last update on the J706F increases the minimum brightness of the tab... I think once I get the tab I will stay on stock Android 10 or manually update for the time being

Put it this way... i'm never going Lenovo again. Their software isn't great.

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Put it this way... i'm never going Lenovo again. Their software isn't great.
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polite way of saying its dog poop, abit like a xiaomi phone, good hardware, rubbish software

Stremon said:
Awesome, thanks a lot for the clear and fast answer, that's exactly what I wanted to know!
That's a very hard choice, but I think for my use I might stay with the 2020 model for the L1, multi-language option and better software support
Is there any issue/bug on the 2020 with the Android 10 to 11 OTA, like widevine going back to L3? Or does it seems all good now?
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I also face this choice recently
Lenovo P11 Pro 2020 version USD 215 with free shipping, back cover and screen protect
just enough CPU, IR Face unlock, I was thinking after flash global rom, I can get OLED and HDR + Netflix L1, because this device is listed on both Lenovo and Netflix website are cert..........but end up Netflix L3 only (no HD no HDR) so crying now....
Lenovo P11 Pro 2021 version USD 300 tablet only
This will give you 90hz display and 870 CPU, but no official Global ROM. i don't want to stay on China ROM due to security concerns and limitation on Google framework
Lenovo P12 Pro USD 616 (no cover no keyboard no pen)
12.6 amoled screen, official Global ROM, better back cover design that can hold pen.....bluetooth keyboard so can use even detached. but cost too high to own the whole set of gears
Samsung Tab S7 FE USD 590 (including pen and cover, no keyboard)
12" IPS screen, Samsung Rom should be most compitable, there tools to pick up call and message if you are using a Samsung phone too.
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Although P12 is the best fit to me, but base on the price, I went for 2020 version assuming it can at least use for coming 1.5 year (may be EOL of Android 11), and save USD 85 target to buy something better next time may be discounted Lenovo P12
Now
We have no control on those Google and Netflix thing.......may be next time I will get a light Windows Table like Asus Slate 13, we can easier to crack .exe app on Windows than Google Play......