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Hello,
I'm a first time poster looking for a little help. I've had my Verizon SIII for about a week now and almost everything about the phone I have loved with the exception of the battery life. Given the 2100mah battery I was expecting much more. I tend to be a fairly light user throughout the day at work, I have the screen brightness turned down, all data is off, and I really only am using it for texting, maybe a little bit of gaming. I have found that if I unplug at about 8am by about 6 or 7pm the battery will be nearly completely drained.
Noticing that this seemed to be a fairly common problem I started doing some research to determine the source of this. First, by looking at the battery stats I observed the same problem that many others observe, a heavy drain in standby mode.
ttp://i.imgur.com/2drJy.png (since I'm a first time poster I can't add external links, please just add an H to the beginning of the url)
So going off of this I started trying to determine the cause of this drain in standby mode. I should also mention that at times the phone does seem to get warm in the bottom left region of the back of the phone. I had read one tutorial explaining about wakelocks so I decided to check that out. I downloaded GSam Battery and CPU Spy to see if something was preventing my phone from entering standby mode properly. However my phone was entering deep sleep as shown below, so this confused me a bit. But clearly there is some issue visible in the standby mode of my phone, sometimes the battery will drain ridiculously fast (as high as 1% every 5 - 10 minutes). And keep in mind that this is while virtually everything, data included, is disabled. So that eliminates the possibility of it simply having to search for a signal in a weak area.
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Basically I'm having a tough time getting to the root cause of this problem. I feel like there's some little software issue in there that is draining it. But I've been pretty smart about the apps that I've downloaded, I've stuck with only very common and popular ones. So would anybody have any clue to how I could identify and address the source of my battery drain?
Thanks
mmisley3 said:
Hello,
I'm a first time poster looking for a little help. I've had my Verizon SIII for about a week now and almost everything about the phone I have loved with the exception of the battery life. Given the 2100mah battery I was expecting much more. I tend to be a fairly light user throughout the day at work, I have the screen brightness turned down, all data is off, and I really only am using it for texting, maybe a little bit of gaming. I have found that if I unplug at about 8am by about 6 or 7pm the battery will be nearly completely drained.
Noticing that this seemed to be a fairly common problem I started doing some research to determine the source of this. First, by looking at the battery stats I observed the same problem that many others observe, a heavy drain in standby mode.
ttp://i.imgur.com/2drJy.png (since I'm a first time poster I can't add external links, please just add an H to the beginning of the url)
So going off of this I started trying to determine the cause of this drain in standby mode. I should also mention that at times the phone does seem to get warm in the bottom left region of the back of the phone. I had read one tutorial explaining about wakelocks so I decided to check that out. I downloaded GSam Battery and CPU Spy to see if something was preventing my phone from entering standby mode properly. However my phone was entering deep sleep as shown below, so this confused me a bit. But clearly there is some issue visible in the standby mode of my phone, sometimes the battery will drain ridiculously fast (as high as 1% every 5 - 10 minutes). And keep in mind that this is while virtually everything, data included, is disabled. So that eliminates the possibility of it simply having to search for a signal in a weak area.
ttp://i.imgur.com/pekXb.png
ttp://i.imgur.com/xauHF.png
ttp://i.imgur.com/2drJy.png
Basically I'm having a tough time getting to the root cause of this problem. I feel like there's some little software issue in there that is draining it. But I've been pretty smart about the apps that I've downloaded, I've stuck with only very common and popular ones. So would anybody have any clue to how I could identify and address the source of my battery drain?
Thanks
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This may be worth a try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732722
or this http://androidapplikation.info/2012/07/cpu-sleeper-2-4-apk-for-android-free-download/
Hope it helps
You don't have to thank me there is a button for that
Download and try Watchdog Lite. It's a really good monitor for finding out which apps are acting up.
This doesn't exactly answer your question, but can help with your problem. There are programs that can help to drastically improve battery life by turning off data (3g\4g) while the screen is off. This can double your battery life or more, especially for lite/moderate users. Most of these programs work by turning on the data 1 minute out of every 15 the screen is off. That way you still get email, and notifications. You still get txt and phone real time, as they do not rely on data. When you turn the screen on data is turned on, when you actually would want to use it. Especially in 4g areas this really saves battery, as 4g is a battery hog.
Battery Defender is my favorite. I feel like I should be paid for this advertisement...
Do you have BATTERY SAVER option ENABLED in settings? That makes a huge difference for me.
It sounds like you are still stock, but I used the Root66 image and after that started having huge battery drain. I did a factory reset to no avail, so then moved to Synergy Rom. Since then, I've had outstanding battery life! not sure if you were thinking about going this route, but it has worked for me. Synergy is debloated so I assumed Verizon crap to be the culprit.
The images I saw were all at 100% battery. Those are not very helpful. A shot of your battery stats at the end of the day would be a lot more useful.
Please note that Cell Standby reports incorrectly at the moment on the S3. Unless you do the fix linked above, it will nearly always be at the top, but it does not actually drain that much battery, it is simply a reporting issue.
Hey guys,
I'm a new Nexus 5 owner and I come from the HTC One S (which is known for a terrible battery). Although, my battery on the Nexus 5 is even worse compared to my setup on the HTC One S. With light use, I'm glad to get around 10-12 hours of it.
Is it worth rooting battery wise? I mean, are there roms / kernals that significantly improve battery life? I'm no gamer, but I do browse and use social media apps..
Thanks in advance!
Hi,
Flash another kernel or rom will not obviously improve your battery life. Battery life depends mainly of your use, apps, settings (like screen brightness, synchro), data signal quality, etc... and even more the rom has nothing to do with your battery life.
For example if you have an app with a ton of wakelocks, flashing another kernel or another rom will not do better... You use social media apps, in general the battery drain can come from them.
Maybe in first you should identify the cause of your battery drain, no? Post your battery history for example and use Better Battery Stats: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809.
You said "10-12 hours" but what about the sreen ON time?
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Hi,
Flash another kernel or rom will not obviously improve your battery life. Battery life depends mainly of your use, apps, settings (like screen brightness, synchro), data signal quality, etc... and even more the rom has nothing to do with your battery life.
For example if you have an app with a ton of wakelocks, flashing another kernel or another rom will not do better... You use social media apps, in general the battery drain can come from them.
Maybe in first you should identify the cause of your battery drain, no? Post your battery history for example and use Better Battery Stats: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809.
You said "10-12 hours" but what about the sreen ON time?
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Thanks for your comment.. I just purchased better battery stats to monitor my battery!
Just to add, rooting isn't necessary to flash a custom kernel. Rooting itself shouldn't change battery life at all
Sent from my Nexus 5
pepdavies said:
Just to add, rooting isn't necessary to flash a custom kernel. Rooting itself shouldn't change battery life at all
Sent from my Nexus 5
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To get things straight.. flashing a custom kernel only requires the bootloader to be unlocked or?
That's correct
Sent from my Nexus 5
To give an update on my current situation:
52% battery left (7 hours and 24 minutes since charge).
Screen on time: 1 hour, 54 minutes.
I would say you are in the average, but without knowing more details, hard to tell more...
Wi-Fi?
3G/4G?
Good signal quality?
Screen brightness?
Synchro?
Etc...
That extrapolates to almost 4 hours sot. That's not bad. Franco kernel can probably get you a bit more.
Sent from my Nexus 5
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
I would say you are in the average, but without knowing more details, hard to tell more...
Wi-Fi?
3G/4G?
Good signal quality?
Screen brightness?
Synchro?
Etc...
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WiFi's on, even in sleeping mode.. not scanning.. no message on 'open networks' & WiFi optimalisation's on too.
No bluetooth
NFC off
Location reporting & history off, Location mode is on 'battery save' mode.
4G turned off as is drained even more.. now usually in 3G with decent coverage I think
Screen brightness is between 15 - 20%, sleeping mode after 30 seconds and no day dreaming & default Nexus wallpaper.
Google Now's on
Optimised synchronisation
Most sounds disabled, mostly on 'quiet' mode.
Running ART
IVS IVRIS said:
WiFi's on, even in sleeping mode.. not scanning.. no message on 'open networks' & WiFi optimalisation's on too.
No bluetooth
NFC off
Location reporting & history off, Location mode is on 'battery save' mode.
4G turned off as is drained even more.. now usually in 3G with decent coverage I think
Screen brightness is between 15 - 20%, sleeping mode after 30 seconds and no day dreaming & default Nexus wallpaper.
Google Now's on
Optimised synchronisation
Most sounds disabled, mostly on 'quiet' mode.
Running ART
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[*]Location reporting & history off, Location mode is on 'battery save' mode. <-Turn this off. It doesn't save battery well. Call it a "feature".
[*]WiFi's on, even in sleeping mode.. not scanning.. no message on 'open networks' & WiFi optimalisation's on too. <-Go under Advanced in Wi-Fi options (hit the little menu button) and there's an extra setting to scan while Wi-Fi is off, turn this off.
Those two things plus turning off the "Ok Google" may help. Also do you have the camera battery usage bug?
You're getting average times for your setup.
If you want to get more, check out the battery thread and read through it a bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509132
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
Battery life
IVS IVRIS said:
Hey guys,
I'm a new Nexus 5 owner and I come from the HTC One S (which is known for a terrible battery). Although, my battery on the Nexus 5 is even worse compared to my setup on the HTC One S. With light use, I'm glad to get around 10-12 hours of it.
Is it worth rooting battery wise? I mean, are there roms / kernals that significantly improve battery life? I'm no gamer, but I do browse and use social media apps..
Thanks in advance!
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You can check how much battery life your device has left by doing one of the following options:
Use Quick Settings or View the battery graph.
However root manually if possible because rooting itself doesn't change battery life at all. Bettery life generally depends on our Apps that we are using on our Smart phones.
Roms / Kernals will not improve your battery life.
Hello everyone!
I own a LG G3 D855 and from the moment I bought it, I've noticed problems regarding battery life. After some resets, the store changed my battery. Despite this, it remained more or less the same. I usually never pass 3 hours of screen-on-time (no gaming!) with a full charge. After that, I considered it was due to the 2K display and reports around the internet talk about 4 hours with this phone, so I became thinking it was quite normal to have this battery life (asking your opinion, guys). Notice I usually have wifi on; 3g, nfc and gps turned off.
However there's a second problem. Sometimes, at random days, like it happen today, I get android system using more battery than the screen (around 50-60%).
I'm avoiding sending it over to the warranty, because I'll be 30 days without the phone and not sure they're figure out the problem.
Any help?
PS: I'm running stock Lollipop, haven't rooted yet. Same behaviour when I had 4.4
XDA Visitor said:
Hello everyone!
I own a LG G3 D855 and from the moment I bought it, I've noticed problems regarding battery life. After some resets, the store changed my battery. Despite this, it remained more or less the same. I usually never pass 3 hours of screen-on-time (no gaming!) with a full charge. After that, I considered it was due to the 2K display and reports around the internet talk about 4 hours with this phone, so I became thinking it was quite normal to have this battery life (asking your opinion, guys). Notice I usually have wifi on; 3g, nfc and gps turned off.
However there's a second problem. Sometimes, at random days, like it happen today, I get android system using more battery than the screen (around 50-60%).
I'm avoiding sending it over to the warranty, because I'll be 30 days without the phone and not sure they're figure out the problem.
Any help?
PS: I'm running stock Lollipop, haven't rooted yet. Same behaviour when I had 4.4
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Battery life ... oh there are many different fators that influence the battery life.
For example: The battery (capacity and health), the firmware (many the kernel), the apps, the usage, the system/apps settings, the temperature, the (wifi and/or mobile) signal strength, etc.
So it's hard to say if your battery life is "normal" or not.
For detailed discussion about the battery life on your device, please post in the G3 General > Battery Life Discussion thread.
If you think your battery is fine and suspect an app draining your battery, I recommend to install and use Better Battery Stats (BBS) app.
For some stats you will need to root your phone though. But you can record all stats and post a dumpfile from the app to the app thread, and the "experts" will analyze it for you ... helping to identify the culprit.
Thread closed. Thank you!
My beloved red Nexus 5 starts acting up... the battery drains extremely fast. Some weeks ago, I could barely make it to 2pm without having to recharge after unplugging. So I got a new battery (directly from LG, so definitely a genuine part) which improved the situation, but didn't completely solve the problem. Additionally, I flashed a CM 13 CAF ROM (using myfluxi's kernel) onto the N5 - I enjoy it so far, but there was actually no further change converning battery life.
Right now, the phone is at 10% after being unplugged in the morning at 9am. Wifi, bluetooth, GPS and mobile data were constantly on, cell signal was mostly perfect, wifi was connected for about 3h, bluetooth was always connected to my Moto 360. Screen on-time is about 2h and I listened to music using GPM for about 2h. The battery settings do not indicate any app using up too much battery power - it shows the display at 15%, cell standby at 10% and then several apps.
What do you think - a Nexus 5 with a new battery should make it through a day, shouldn't it?
I remember my first Nexus 5, back in the days with a G watch, making it through a day without any problem with 15-20% left when I plugged it in before going to bed... because of that, I start to think if there might be a bad electronics part, like the display backlight or something on the mainboard, using up too much power without being noticed by the OS. Is that possible?
Thank you very much for your advice!
iYassin
Read and post in the battery life troubleshooting thread stickied to the top of this forum, it will help logically determine what is using your battery.
You have a lot running at once, so difficult at the moment to solve your issue. It's better to turn things on/off one by one to make logical conclusions whether it has any noticeable effect.
The best logical way to conclude if it is a hardware problem is to go fully sock no additional apps no root etc, see if it 'drains' by itself
If not hardware, then 99% of the time it is a bad app(s) keeping your phone awake
This is likely not the case, but have you checked the CPU settings? I've only encountered such a drain while using performance governor together with overclocking.
Same here
I have the same problem and I have been banging my head about it, I don't really use my phone for anything much else than a phone and I kept having at least 3 days of using it with no problems.
Now the phone barely lasts 2 days and even switches off in the middle of the night...
Stormspik3 said:
I have the same problem and I have been banging my head about it, I don't really use my phone for anything much else than a phone and I kept having at least 3 days of using it with no problems.
Now the phone barely lasts 2 days and even switches off in the middle of the night...
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In the OP's case, his drain is likely caused by having GPS on all the time. That will absolutely devour battery life, so he could save himself some grief by turning it off until he than your phone turns off occasionally. First guess would be the power button going bad; that is generally the reason for needs it.
For you, who knows? You've not given any information, otherthat type of behavior
SteveMurphy said:
In the OP's case, his drain is likely caused by having GPS on all the time. That will absolutely devour battery life, so he could save himself some grief by turning it off until he than your phone turns off occasionally. First guess would be the power button going bad; that is generally the reason for needs it.
For you, who knows? You've not given any information, other that type of behaviour
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Yes, sorry about that I was a bit annoyed at the phone. I found and fixed the problem. Go to settings > apps > disable google fit > click yes when it gives you some notifications about how you'll lose data or stuff like that > and click force stop at the end for good measure.
I am in my second day now of battery life at 59% with a looooooooot of talking today , I mean more than usual so it is definitely a fix for me. Hope it helps
Take care gents
Regards
Nik
Again same problem
Hi all,
Unfortunately I have better battery life but I am again losing a lot of battery.
I have a screenshot but I am unable to upload it sorry about that.
I use my phone mainly for calls roughly about 15 mins per day at the most in total ( not a lot at all I know) and I also have my bluetooth on at all times cause I have LG G Watch.
thing is that I have never had problems with the battery before. When I say before back in the day I still had my LG G Watch ( I have it for about 6-7 months) . Problem with the battery started roughly around 1 month.
Location is off, wi-fi is on on very rare occasions throughout the day when I need to check my e-mail and mobile data is the same. Navigation is used only if needed.
The real problem is that before I knew what was draining my batter now I have 79% of battery usage and I have 5 apps listed that drained each 1%
Android System 1%
Phone Idle 1%
Screen 1%
Google play services 1%
Android OS 1%
Where are the other 15 % ??
It is weird I really took pride in that phone and his battery life, I know that it is mainly because I don't use it as a regular used do i.e. gaming, facebook etc, but I still want to charge less than 1 time per 2 days or less
Thanks in advance
Regards
Nik
Stormspik3 said:
Hi all,
Unfortunately I have better battery life but I am again losing a lot of battery.
I have a screenshot but I am unable to upload it sorry about that.
I use my phone mainly for calls roughly about 15 mins per day at the most in total ( not a lot at all I know) and I also have my bluetooth on at all times cause I have LG G Watch.
thing is that I have never had problems with the battery before. When I say before back in the day I still had my LG G Watch ( I have it for about 6-7 months) . Problem with the battery started roughly around 1 month.
Location is off, wi-fi is on on very rare occasions throughout the day when I need to check my e-mail and mobile data is the same. Navigation is used only if needed.
The real problem is that before I knew what was draining my batter now I have 79% of battery usage and I have 5 apps listed that drained each 1%
Android System 1%
Phone Idle 1%
Screen 1%
Google play services 1%
Android OS 1%
Where are the other 15 % ??
It is weird I really took pride in that phone and his battery life, I know that it is mainly because I don't use it as a regular used do i.e. gaming, facebook etc, but I still want to charge less than 1 time per 2 days or less
Thanks in advance
Regards
Nik
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As stated above, read and post in the battery life troubleshooting thread stickied to the top of Q&A.
They will help logically diagnose what is using your battery.
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
Battery life is relatively unchanged in mine after the mm update. Easily make it through the entire day with 50-60% battery life remaining. I disabled a whole bunch of the bloatware (and will be removing it entirely when I decide to root my phone) and battery life is wonderful.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Mine has been fine, slightly better with doze/disabling packages. Do a back up through Smart Switch and try a factory reset. I do that every time I update.
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
shaels said:
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
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I will recommend "Package Disabler Pro" to disable bloatware. Costs but is worth the cash.
Mine went through on Thursday and so far battery appears ok.
I have noticed however the lighting is messed up all over. Play books night light feature is broken and dims it to unrecognizable levels. I have to go into the settings again when in the book and disable auto lighting and manually raise it. When back at the list of books screen, the brightness drops to nearly off again.
Also it seems the notifications when listening to music are much louder. I could listen to mp3s via poweramp while reading a book and get an SMS text and itd be a light little sound. this is playing louder than my music and very annoying.
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
All thoughtful replies. I don't have Location on ever, unless I'm using Waze, so that's a non-issue for me. Allowing WiFi to sleep when the phone is off, while I'm only connecting via WiFi, effectively makes my smartphone a dumb phone, until I wake it up, right? The fact that I need to start changing around "normal" settings on my phone, to lesser benefiting ones, to get back to the battery life I had before I installed MM is pretty silly. I've been hoping things would settle down, but they don't. I can try using SmartSwitch later to see if that helps.
Steamer86 said:
1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
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No, it will connect LTE and then switch to wifi. LTE use more battery life, the network switch uses a bit, then finally you are into wifi. If your phone wakelocks or alarms(location ping, play service ping, etc) it will use more battery than wifi always on. Personally, I've tested both to make sure a wifi wakelock bug hasn't been introduced as I do with every update and play service update(it does happen and it's horrible drain). I see more savings always on.
If you meant you disable mobile network, yes, dumb phone, text and call. Also, I disable mobile usually always as I piggyback off work cell at work, and always wifi at home. I only toggle mobile data when necessary.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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I believe this is what most people encounter. Most dont have unlimited data and use WIFI always. I think by default, WIFI is set to always on, even when phone screen is off. WIFI will rape your battery. I did my own tests with wifi vs 4g and just by using my 4g all the time, battery quadrupled. Many argued that WIFI uses less battery, and i have the best of the best wifi router/modem/isp with 5ghz ac excellent coverage. Not the case for me. I have unlimited and just stick with that now. Battery life on MM has been great for me.
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Been on MM for about five days now and my battery blows, so much worse than what it was!
musicfreak190 said:
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
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Mine is exactly 4 times worse
Battery the same.
But I have to tap the screen harder to chose app.
Going to factory reset and start clean, been a while.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
utsc said:
Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Not that I know of.
Though they JUST released Marshmallow. Verizon is probably still patting themselves on the back even though they released several months late. What I'm waiting for is a miraculous root.
I never use my phone the same amount every day, so it's hard to say exactly what kind of battery life I get, but I have noticed that it has improved. I would usually be near 15% by 10pm after coming off charger at 6am. Now I float around 25% at 10pm. So it seems to be better, even if only slightly so.
I see a minimal improvement, but I was doing what I could without root prior to sleep unnecessary crap.
Weird, when thye MM updated happened, up until the last two days, I was getting much better battery life under MM. But the past few days my battery life has declined dramatically to the point that I am not getting through a day of minimal use. Screen only 2%, Android OS consuming 76%.
I just fiddled with settings (Changed Wifi sleep to While Charging; Turned off wifi scanning). I am going to also try a reboot to see if that helps. I swear it started just about the time I started looking at Nexus 6p replacements).
Update, rebooting, and removing a few more useless apps and battery life has returned.